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Re: #whatif: Daddy Freez Is Correct About Tithe? by footprint17(m): 10:33pm On Jan 28, 2019
mrrights:
#WhatiF: Daddy Freez is correct about Tithe?

Daddy Freeze is one of Nigeria’s On Air Personality and convener of #FreeTheSheeple movement, a movement revolting against the unbiblical preaching of prominent pastors and churches in Nigeria.

Daddy Freeze is prominent for his advocacy against tithe collection by Jet buying pastors, arguing with scriptural evidences, that it is unbiblical to collect tithes.

For this advocacy, Daddy Freeze has been severely attacked by tithe collecting pastors and their followers, who often accuse him of fighting the church.

However, the general public has being asking, #WhatiF Daddy Freez is correct about Tithe?

https://whatif.ng/2018/12/25/whatif-daddy-freez-is-correct-about-tithe/
Stupid post ...
Daddy freeze or wateva is now a god lolx....
Na ur moni daddy freeze?
Re: #whatif: Daddy Freez Is Correct About Tithe? by TruthinAction: 10:43pm On Jan 28, 2019
sykeng:

Because they don't pay tithe you call their means dubious, what a pathetic statement, I have never paid tithe but I have prospered in all areas in life. Health wise, financially, in my career et al, being HUMANE is my secrete not TITHE.

It will crash one day. The blessing you get outside Christ is not durable. Your house is not standing on a solid foundation. When the storms of life comes, one day it will crumble. There are so many stories in that line. So many millionaires whose story did not end well. Only God through Christ gives durable riches.
Re: #whatif: Daddy Freez Is Correct About Tithe? by TruthinAction: 10:48pm On Jan 28, 2019
Thewesterner:
Challenge him to a live televised debate on the subject

Please arrange the debate and notify me.
Re: #whatif: Daddy Freez Is Correct About Tithe? by TruthinAction: 10:54pm On Jan 28, 2019
Ubongdemaga:
so sorry 4 u bro. Tithe was meant 4 levits and priest in the old testament. God warned that the levits and priest should not go to war , that pple should bring food to them. Where in the bible do u see a priest collecting money in the name of tithe?

The Levites collected tithe because they were commanded not to work but to serve in the sanctuary. In the same sense, there are people who serve in the house of God today who do not work. Without them, some of the services we enjoy will be impossible. Most of them are graduates who have been called of God to work in the house of God. So tithes are used to pay their salaries and take care of them. This includes Pastors who do not work. And their services are very crucial to God's plan for mankind who wants everyone to be saved. So, give them your support by paying your tithe.
Re: #whatif: Daddy Freez Is Correct About Tithe? by TruthinAction: 10:59pm On Jan 28, 2019
Smartphelz:
Please do well to return all the fees spent on your education. Education is meant to free people from mental slavery. Your case is pathetic...If you believe all the thrash you typed up there your case is indeed irredeemable

Education will only give you sense knowledge. But sense knowledge is limited to what it can see, feel, smell, touch and hear. There are so many things your senses do not know. That is why we need a higher knowledge. It is called Revelation knowledge. There are things that has to be revealed to us. Otherwise we will never know them. If not for the information in the Bible, we would never have known how the world was created. We would never have known who God really is. We would never have known if there was heaven or hell. Please, upgrade your knowledge and let the Holy Spirit teach you things you can never learn in the four walls of universities.
Re: #whatif: Daddy Freez Is Correct About Tithe? by TruthinAction: 11:02pm On Jan 28, 2019
southpole:

The kingdom of God is not about prosperity on earth. How I wish to hear you say tithe will take a person to heaven.

Yes, it's not about prosperity but prosperity is part of God's will for us. Tithing will not take you to heaven but non payment could make you miss heaven because you have put yourself in the class of a thief and a robber.
Re: #whatif: Daddy Freez Is Correct About Tithe? by desiredhome: 11:03pm On Jan 28, 2019
TruthinAction:


It will crash one day. The blessing you get outside Christ is not durable. Your house is not standing on a solid foundation. When the storms of life comes, one day it will crumble. There are so many stories in that line. So many millionaires whose story did not end well. Only God through Christ gives durable riches.

I thought Nigeria would've been the richest country in the world or even Africa with the number of religious people, especially the pentecostal Christian but what I see is poorest Country in the world.
In a shithole Country like Nigeria, how do you measure your working for me belief where there is poor health care and people are dying of material? cry
A lot of you sleep in polluted/sooth environment, poor roads that have become death trap? No electricity, stress on almost everyone's face, fear of insecurity etc,
How?

How do we compare a lifestyle of a developed society with less churches and and that of a developing country with more churches?

God punish poverty
Re: #whatif: Daddy Freez Is Correct About Tithe? by magictonic(m): 11:04pm On Jan 28, 2019
please stop distracting us. we are discussing CJN matter - not Daddy Freezxe
Re: #whatif: Daddy Freez Is Correct About Tithe? by Afritop(m): 11:06pm On Jan 28, 2019
TruthinAction:


He is not correct. Tithe is an eternal principle. It started before the law and it transcend the law in principle. Just carry out this experiment. Pay your tithe faithfully for a period of three months. Then, stop for that same period and come and tell us your experience. The financial instability many Christians are going through is because they do not pay their tithes. They fall into different financial problems ranging from health challenges to court cases and even loss of valuable properties. It's just that they see these problems as normal. But pay your tithe, you will be amazed how God will deliver you from all of these problems.
So for fear of financial instability we should now be paying our tithe. You mean the cause of a Christian facing financial instabilty is because he does not pay his tithe
Re: #whatif: Daddy Freez Is Correct About Tithe? by TruthinAction: 11:09pm On Jan 28, 2019
Hi
Barrytone:


Have seen the supposed tithe payers having all the problems you mentioned above. Giving definitely comes with blessing so the act of tithing is a subgiving but misconstrued, I have never paid tithe, I earn close to 1m a month and spend less than 300k. Indulge in several school fees paying program for less privileged amidst other philanthropy. Am very godly and avoid negative things. How then will a man of god dare tell me am not going to heaven because am not giving him money. One even told me she prayed for my job and if I don't return my tithe I will loose the job. That was 2013, am still working. For information sake, after the philanthropy and school fees, I buy strong drinks for my friends and thank my God for the grace. Life was meant to be enjoyed but we missed it by Adamic sin and regained it with crucifixion of Christ. Why then are you bonding yourself to Judaism. Be a Christian or you practice outright Judaism and not mix it only when there is financial benefits.

Please, are you born again? If yes, great doom awaits you for gross error. If not, tithing does not concern you. It's for those in covenant with God. But you will still hit the rock one way or the other. No true success outside Christ.
Re: #whatif: Daddy Freez Is Correct About Tithe? by TruthinAction: 11:13pm On Jan 28, 2019
Mrmourinho:

Well I also pay my tithes, but don't say d non-payment of tithes is facilitator of the financial instability most Christians face today, God is not a human being, he is not as vicious as most Christians presume him to be, he will never cause u financial constraints because u don't pay ur tithe, ur tithe is just an avenue to additional blessings and also portrays ur strict adherence to d scriptures, my boss doesn't even go to church talkless of paying tithes, and for d past 20 years, he has never for once experienced a downturn in his business and finances.Think it Over!!!
Selah!!!

The principle does not concern your boss. He does not have to pay. He will prosper in his own way but at the expense of his soul. He will one day experience challenges that his money cannot even solve.
Re: #whatif: Daddy Freez Is Correct About Tithe? by TruthinAction: 11:16pm On Jan 28, 2019
tintingz:
Lol delusion. grin

Majority of Chinese people, Arab muslims in UAE don't pay tithes and they are living well even some atheists are living well while most Christians who are average Nigerians paying tithes are living in poverty.

Oga, you're delusional.

They are enjoying generational blessing that came from the two obedient sons of Noah. The Muslims because of Ishmael. However God's wrath is upon most of these nations evident in the natural disaster they experience every now and then.
Re: #whatif: Daddy Freez Is Correct About Tithe? by Smartphelz: 11:17pm On Jan 28, 2019
TruthinAction:


I pray that God will deliver you from gross spiritual darkness.
And i guess youve been delivered rightOne day youll wake up from your foolery. I won't dignify you with another response. Your case is beyond me.
Re: #whatif: Daddy Freez Is Correct About Tithe? by tintingz(m): 11:22pm On Jan 28, 2019
TruthinAction:


They are enjoying generational blessing that came from the two obedient sons of Noah. The Muslims because of Ishmael. However God's wrath is upon most of these nations evident in the natural disaster they experience every now and then.
Lol, you're still deluded.

Why are you being dishonest?
Re: #whatif: Daddy Freez Is Correct About Tithe? by jaxxy(m): 11:26pm On Jan 28, 2019
Okoyiboz3:


Alaye, shut up. Who does Zuckerberg, Gates and Dangote pay tithes to?

Tithes was for Levites, is your Gentile pastor a Levite?
Tithes were paid in a Theocracy, is your country a Theocracy?
Tithes were a tax on income, don't you pay your income tax?
Tithes had a formula for sharing it, it wasn't all to be gobbled up by the priests, is your tithe-collector following the formula?

Even the money you people are giving, you're not giving because you love God, you're giving because you want to bribe God. That's why God punishes you people.

The day you read your Bible, you'll come back to delete this nonsense you typed up here.

Don’t mind them. They believe in tithes bt deny the sharing formula. Why pastors are silent on the sharing formula remains a mystery. The love of Money has consumed them. The church members don’t have the guts/rights to question their pastors imagine that?

Wasn’t Jesus asked all manners of questions? This alone shows pastors are in the wrong track.

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Re: #whatif: Daddy Freez Is Correct About Tithe? by Nobody: 11:27pm On Jan 28, 2019
TruthinAction:


The principle does not concern your boss. He does not have to pay. He will prosper in his own way but at the expense of his soul. He will one day experience challenges that his money cannot even solve.
Challenges money can't solve coz of non-payment of tithe God is not wicked
Re: #whatif: Daddy Freez Is Correct About Tithe? by desiredhome: 11:33pm On Jan 28, 2019
If it were possible for them, they will ask you to pay tithe in money for the air we breath, but God pass them.
Re: #whatif: Daddy Freez Is Correct About Tithe? by Nobody: 11:33pm On Jan 28, 2019
TruthinAction:
Hi

Please, are you born again? If yes, great doom awaits you for gross error. If not, tithing does not concern you. It's for those in covenant with God. But you will still hit the rock one way or the other. No true success outside Christ.

success to me is peace of mind. I have that in abundance. Every other thing you might think is success, I had acquired. I am born again with my intellects intact. I believe in only Christ and follow His teachings alone. Every person before Christ wasn't good enough hence His coming, how then do you go back to follow them that were not perfect to heal the world of adamic sin. The old Testament is for reference purpose and not a doctrine to be followed if not Christ coming and dying is invain. My Christ cannot die invain if yours died invain. The only time he made mention of tithe was when he rebuke their penchant for tithe over the basic things. I can't be paying 20% income tax, 5% VAT and many more tax and still come to pay 10% to self imposed levies just because of financial gains. I am over 40yrs and have never paid tithe. And no plans to pay tithe as I see it as sinful for a Christian that profess Christ to do after His death. So you can enjoy your Judaism am a proud Christian.
N/B: meaning of Christian simply means Christ followers and nothing more. Confused bunch!

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Re: #whatif: Daddy Freez Is Correct About Tithe? by benedictuyi(m): 11:35pm On Jan 28, 2019
TruthinAction:


He is not correct. Tithe is an eternal principle. It started before the law and it transcend the law in principle. Just carry out this experiment. Pay your tithe faithfully for a period of three months. Then, stop for that same period and come and tell us your experience. The financial instability many Christians are going through is because they do not pay their tithes. They fall into different financial problems ranging from health challenges to court cases and even loss of valuable properties. It's just that they see these problems as normal. But pay your tithe, you will be amazed how God will deliver you from all of these problems.
Use your two skinny hands to cover that your smelling mouth
Re: #whatif: Daddy Freez Is Correct About Tithe? by smugmanuel(m): 12:10am On Jan 29, 2019
You just said my mind. Let me add tinkily thing to it.

If you wanna pay tithe with your money, pay it to your parents. They need that money and the blessings that follow it is beyond words. If you wanna pay tithe , pay it to motherless babies homes, charity. In reality God needs you and not your money or tithe. He owns all that and besides they are all vanity.
OkCornel:
When pro-tithers are ready to show us where God specifically mentioned money as part of the items to be tithed, then they should know that monetary tithing is unscriptural.




When God required money for the needs of the Temple, He specifically mentioned where all Israelite males should be levied a temple tax of half a shekel every year. That was an instance of God clearly asking for money.




BASED ON THE ABOVE, IT WAS CLEAR WHEN GOD ASKED FOR MONEY TO MAINTAIN THE TEMPLE... NOW LET US EXAMINE GOD'S REQUIREMENT FOR TITHES



Based on the above verses, God clearly mentioned what is titheable, and money was not part of the items to be tithed.

IN CONCLUSION:
So any fraudster that comes with the excuse that money was not in use because the Israelites were predominantly farmers and cattle rearers...should read Exodus 30 v 13-16 and explain to us why God demanded money from these same Israelites...but specified crops and livestock as tithes in Deuteronomy 14 v 22-29;

Also, I'll be waiting for scriptural references where God made tithing mandatory for gentiles as well.

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Re: #whatif: Daddy Freez Is Correct About Tithe? by Thewesterner(m): 9:19am On Jan 29, 2019
TruthinAction:


Please arrange the debate and notify me.
Why should I? You were the one with opinions.
Re: #whatif: Daddy Freez Is Correct About Tithe? by loomer: 10:12am On Jan 29, 2019
loomer:
#whatif Buhari is right in the way he's running the economy?
Re: #whatif: Daddy Freez Is Correct About Tithe? by TruthinAction: 11:03am On Jan 29, 2019
Barrytone:


success to me is peace of mind. I have that in abundance. Every other thing you might think is success, I had acquired. I am born again with my intellects intact. I believe in only Christ and follow His teachings alone. Every person before Christ wasn't good enough hence His coming, how then do you go back to follow them that were not perfect to heal the world of adamic sin. The old Testament is for reference purpose and not a doctrine to be followed if not Christ coming and dying is invain. My Christ cannot die invain if yours died invain. The only time he made mention of tithe was when he rebuke their penchant for tithe over the basic things. I can't be paying 20% income tax, 5% VAT and many more tax and still come to pay 10% to self imposed levies just because of financial gains. I am over 40yrs and have never paid tithe. And no plans to pay tithe as I see it as sinful for a Christian that profess Christ to do after His death. So you can enjoy your Judaism am a proud Christian.
N/B: meaning of Christian simply means Christ followers and nothing more. Confused bunch!

If you are truly following Jesus, then do what he commands concerning giving. He says that you should sell your assets and give the proceeds to the poor. Have you ever done that? At least, the early church did it. Remember, this is like giving your 100% away. Which one is easier, the 10% or the 100%?
Re: #whatif: Daddy Freez Is Correct About Tithe? by TruthinAction: 11:11am On Jan 29, 2019
tintingz:
Lol, you're still deluded.

Why are you being dishonest?

Romans 1:18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;

Until they repent, they will continue to experience earthquake, landslides, over flooding, tsunamis, tornadoes, hiv/aids etc.

God will not withdraw the blessing already released upon their generation but he will judge their unrighteousness.
Re: #whatif: Daddy Freez Is Correct About Tithe? by Youngzedd(m): 12:52pm On Jan 29, 2019
Ubongdemaga:
I am a Christian but don't support tithe giving. We Christians always bring in Judaism into our religion. Tithe was in the law of Moses, that is Judaism but we leave other laws like, eye 4 eye and other strict laws and concentrate on tithe becos it involves money

They forget the first fruit where they are to sacrifice their first born grin grin


They keep mixing Christianity with Judaism because it favours them.

The 3 types of tithe, they aren't keeping. They focus on the one that benefits them even when they aren't the Levites.


Africa have a long way to go.

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Re: #whatif: Daddy Freez Is Correct About Tithe? by Nobody: 1:25pm On Jan 29, 2019
TruthinAction:


If you are truly following Jesus, then do what he commands concerning giving. He says that you should sell your assets and give the proceeds to the poor. Have you ever done that? At least, the early church did it. Remember, this is like giving your 100% away. Which one is easier, the 10% or the 100%?

I re-read that portion but in earnest then the men of god are not following Christ then if your assumptions hold. He never said everybody should sell their asset. He told a single person. I reiterate again and again, the only time He mentioned tithe, it was a rebuke on tithe collectors. And He is saying it today, why leave the weightier things and hang on tithes.
Re: #whatif: Daddy Freez Is Correct About Tithe? by Tejiriseth(m): 2:45pm On Jan 29, 2019
I was a theist for 23years of my Life and Was even appointed a Youth V.P1
I was all for Church as at that Time.
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At once certain time In Benin, I even Left school to follow church
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TruthinAction:


Where you living right when you tried it? Did you really do it rightly? Was the confession of your mouth consistent with God's word? Did you get involved in speaking evil against ministers and even the brethren? Please, be honest with your answers because all these affect your prosperity. Is just that most Ministries don't teach God's word in details. They only tell you what you want to hear to gather crowd and not what you should hear.
Re: #whatif: Daddy Freez Is Correct About Tithe? by TruthinAction: 3:04pm On Jan 29, 2019
Tejiriseth:
I was a theist for 23years of my Life and Was even appointed a Youth V.P1
I was all for Church as at that Time.
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At once certain time In Benin, I even Left school to follow church
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You did not quite answer my questions. Being committed to church does not mean one is living right.
Re: #whatif: Daddy Freez Is Correct About Tithe? by TruthinAction: 3:15pm On Jan 29, 2019
Barrytone:


I re-read that portion but in earnest then the men of god are not following Christ then if your assumptions hold. He never said everybody should sell their asset. He told a single person. I reiterate again and again, the only time He mentioned tithe, it was a rebuke on tithe collectors. And He is saying it today, why leave the weightier things and hang on tithes.

Luke 12:33-34.
33 Sell that ye have, and give alms; provide yourselves bags which wax not old, a treasure in the heavens that faileth not, where no thief approacheth, neither moth corrupteth.

34 For where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.

Does this scrupture sound like he was addressing one individual?

On another occasion, he told a rich young ruler the same thing. So, it is Christ message on giving. That was why the early church practiced it on two recorded occasions. So it is Jesus message on giving. Since you don't want to tithe, you and Daddy Freeze should liquidate your assets and give to the poor.
Re: #whatif: Daddy Freez Is Correct About Tithe? by Ubongdemaga: 4:11pm On Jan 29, 2019
TruthinAction:


The Levites collected tithe because they were commanded not to work but to serve in the sanctuary. In the same sense, there are people who serve in the house of God today who do not work. Without them, some of the services we enjoy will be impossible. Most of them are graduates who have been called of God to work in the house of God. So tithes are used to pay their salaries and take care of them. This includes Pastors who do not work. And their services are very crucial to God's plan for mankind who wants everyone to be saved. So, give them your support by paying your tithe.
do u knw Paul the Apostle was a tent maker? And encourage everyone to work? God gave each and everyone a talent for one thing or the other. U can use ur talent to make wealth and still serve God. Hw can u depend on church money? And no wonder some pastors if they don't see u bringing tithe the will go mad wit u. Looooooooooool
Re: #whatif: Daddy Freez Is Correct About Tithe? by Tejiriseth(m): 4:54pm On Jan 29, 2019
Soo how did you come about this Knowledge.?
Who can you explain the diversity of race we have all over the world if the offsprings of Noah were Involved In Incest and Inbreeding.
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How did the mixing of the earth water not kill the various
marine form we have..
What did the insect in the ark feed on.?
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TruthinAction:


After the Noah's flood, the new world came from the descendants of Noah. The generation of two of them where blessed, Shem and Japhet. The generation of the third was cursed, Ham. The cursed descendants spread to Africa majorly and the other to other parts of the world. These countries that appears to be prospering without God are benefiting from generational blessing. But they are however suffering another form of punishment for drawing away from God. These are the countries that suffer what we call natural disaster the most. Examples are China, Japan and even America to mention but a few.

Africa today, though suffering from generational curse has an advantage in the fact that most part are now spiritually enlightened. The gospel is prevailing in Africa. And if you are in Christ, you will be free from the generational curse.

Even the Muslim nations are blessed because God blessed Ishmael who is the flesh seed of Abraham. My friend, life is spiritual. When you embrace Christ, you will understand the spiritual undertones to what is happening on earth today.

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