TATIME:
Na wa ooooo! So you and LordReed are not spiritual brothers. Ojigbijigbijigbi
OK so you now believe in GOD,God,god after all those NO MIND CONTROLLING stuff.
Iruironborun.

Me and my Lord are most definitely spiritual brothers! We have been here spiritualising one another and cannot but be family!

Is my Lord not your spiritual brother?

budaatum:
Me and my Lord are most definitely spiritual brothers! We have been here spiritualising one another and cannot but be family!

Is my Lord not your spiritual brother?

The only spirituals brothers i have are JWs,anywhere you find a JW know that you've met Tatime's spiritual brother,sister,mother or father. Apart from JWs,any other person is my NEIGHBOUR!

budaatum:

Do me a favour and start a 'Is there a relationship between seeing religion metaphorically and seeing it spiritually'? please and I'll pray about it. Something may come, metaphorically or spiritually.

What do you think, budaatum?

There is no civilization without religion!
But Christianity is more than a common religion
It's a personal relationship with God through Jesus Christ; your creator and the creator of this universe

TATIME:

The only spirituals brothers i have are JWs,anywhere you find a JW know that you've met Tatime's spiritual brother,sister,mother or father. Apart from JWs,any other person is my NEIGHBOUR!

Good for you.

budaatum:

Good for you.

Yes and you too can try it to see that Jehovah is good! Psalm 34:8
Anywhere i go throughout the world! i'll not lodge in a hotel but in the comfort Home of my SPIRITUAL brothers and sisters{JWs}.
So as it's Good for me,it will also be good for you too,if you become a JW today!

buddenlove:
There is no civilization without religion!
But Christianity is more than a common religion
It's a personal relationship with God through Jesus Christ; your creator and the creator of this universe

A long distance relationship where you never see or hear the person you are supposed to be in relationship with. This is how yahoo boys scam people over the internet with fake long distance relationship.

TATIME:
Yes and you too can try it to see that Jehovah is good! Psalm 34:8
Anywhere i go throughout the world! i'll not lodge in a hotel but in the comfort Home of my SPIRITUAL brothers and sisters{JWs}.
So as it's Good for me,it will also be good for you too,if you become a JW today!

Are you trying to force your resolve on me because you "think some ideas are BAD or TERRIBLE?"

My mission is to the world and not the already saved Tat. Besides, I don't need free hotel room since the Lord takes care of that. And if I needed a bed from you you would not say no to me, "until you become a JW buda", unless you wish to go to hell.

It is not the being in the same sect that makes my Lord my brother tat. My Lord is my brother because the Lord created him and me.

TATIME:
Yes and you too can try it to see that Jehovah is good! Psalm 34:8

Those who are in Christ know that:

Oh, when the rain fall, fall, fall now
It don't fall on JWs alone.
Remember that, when the rain fall
It don't fall on one man's housetop.

Because, God is the Maker of everyone regardless what they may think in their heads.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Q5VMP84Bo4

JujuSugar:

What do you think, budaatum?

I did some research and found a better expression is Metaphysical Spirituality and have opened a thread to explore it while I think since it would be off topic here.

budaatum:

Those who are in Christ know that:

Oh, when the rain fall, fall, fall now
It don't fall on JWs alone.
Remember that, when the rain fall
It don't fall on one man's housetop.
Because, God is the Maker of everyone regardless what they may think in their heads.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Q5VMP84Bo4

NEIGHBOUR differs totally from BROTHER Sir!

TATIME:
NEIGHBOUR differs totally from BROTHER Sir!

Yes, to you Tatime. Indeed.

Buda, on the other hand, lives in the digital world of heredom where, spiritually speaking, you have literally stepped into my home and eaten my food and into my heart. Or is it not the case that your spiritual self engaged with mine much more than you likely ever did with any other being on earth?

Such as they who engage with me are my neighbours no more but products of my Lord God and hence my brothers and sisters in spirit.

budaatum:

Yes, to you Tatime. Indeed.

Buda, on the other hand, lives in the digital world of heredom where, spiritually speaking, you have literally stepped into my home and eaten my food and into my heart. Or is it not the case that your spiritual self engaged with mine much more than you likely ever did with any other being on earth?

Such as they who engage with me are my neighbours no more but products of my Lord God and hence my brothers and sisters in spirit.

There are just three factors that implies brotherhood.
*Blood~ Where we're from the same family.
*Business~ Where we're partners by trade.
*Faith~ Where we think,talk and do things in common.
Anything short of these three means you're just a living being living closeby,remember a pet {animal} having a name could also be likened to a neighbour!

TATIME:
There are just three factors that implies brotherhood.
*Blood~ Where we're from the same family.
*Business~ Where we're partners by trade.
*Faith~ Where we think,talk and do things in common.
Anything short of these three means you're just a living being living closeby,remember a pet {animal} having a name could also be likened to a neighbour!

Tatime, I hear you. That is how it is for you, and I've told you my brother and sisters are all those whom God created, and "each person has the sole right to CHOOSE how they will think and live their lives". So, let us not "force his/her resolve on others".

budaatum:

Tatime, I hear you. That is how it is for you, and I've told you my brother and sisters are all those whom God created, and "each person has the sole right to CHOOSE how they will think and live their lives". So, let us not "force his/her resolve on others".

YES OOO! Let's atheisticalise just for once.
Each person should hold unto his/her personal ideas,without forcing our resolve on others. It's just a pity that most atheists on NL do go out of this boundaries and start insulting others for holding to certain ideas that supposed to be taken as personal!

TATIME:
YES OOO! Let's atheisticalise just for once.
Each person should hold unto his/her personal ideas,without forcing our resolve on others. It's just a pity that most atheists on NL do go out of this boundaries and start insulting others for holding to certain ideas that supposed to be taken as personal!

That is how atheists want to be, if you don't like it go and pray and stop with the eye for an eye and turn the other cheek instead of trying to force your own resolve on them in return!

budaatum:

That is how atheists want to be, if you don't like it go and pray and stop with the eye for an eye and turn the other cheek instead of trying to force your own resolve on them in return!

NO buda,it's atheists that are trying to force their resolve on other!
If they truthfully agree with NO MIND CONTROLLING,they should leave everyone with his/her personal resolutions. But instead they'll be insulting those claiming faith.

LordReed:


Otem has as far as I know not claimed to be an atheist. Of the things that I have read from Otem, he/she has always mentioned a god who is supreme to Yahweh so how is a person who believes in a supreme being an atheist?

pls tell him o

OtemAtum:
pls tell him o

Haaaaaaaaaaa me i no know oooooo. As long as you debunk the Bible and any other written documents,you're an atheist to me!
After all if i say false religions claiming Christians totally differs from true Christians you too won't listen!

TATIME:
NO buda,it's atheists that are trying to force their resolve on other!
If they truthfully agree with NO MIND CONTROLLING,they should leave everyone with his/her personal resolutions. But instead they'll be insulting those claiming faith.

Why let the forcing of anyone affect your spirit. Should you worry at those who can only hurt your flesh, and not even these? Thank God we live not in times of Jesus when people were crucified or when people were burnt at stakes.

budaatum:

Why let the forcing of anyone affect your spirit Should you worry at those who can only hurt your flesh, and not even these? Thank God we live not in times of Jesus when people were crucified or when people were burnt at stakes.

No buda! The Bible foretells a time when these seemingly timid atheists who are hiding behind the scene will come out publicly and try to force everyone to become atheists!

rekinomtla:


https://www.google.com/amp/www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/04/07/why-people-with-no-religion-are-projected-to-decline-as-a-share-of-the-worlds-population/%3famp=1

This proves absolutely nothing. The fact that some religions are growing in NUMBERS doesn't mean the growth rate isn't declining whereas that of atheism is increasing.

lovelygurl:


This proves absolutely nothing. The fact that some religions are growing in NUMBERS doesn't mean the growth rate isn't declining whereas that of atheism is increasing.

Are you sure your friend Janette isn't the one influencing you?

Peer pressure?

This does not sound like you 2 years ago.

bobobooge:


Are you sure your friend Janette isn't the one influencing you?

Peer pressure?

This does not sound like you 2 years ago.

What kind of question is that?!

bobobooge:


Are you sure your friend Janette isn't the one influencing you?

Peer pressure?

This does not sound like you 2 years ago.

Lmaooooo, which peer pressure? I started using the term atheist since ca. 2014/15. "Started" because I was one before then as well. I never saw it as a big deal or sth to announce and even now I still do not see it as a big deal. I'm not going to waste my time arguing on whether Christians are stupid for believing in a God or if atheists are stupid in believing in nothing because at the end of the day, I do not give a f about that shit.

2 years ago, even now and probably in the years to come it'll always be a "Believe in whatever you want to believe in, as long as it makes you happy. Live and let others live" and most importantly "Respect each others beliefs and don't try to impose your beliefs on anybody else".
That IS how I've always "sounded" like.

lovelygurl:


This proves absolutely nothing.

this proves you didn't click on the link or look at the attachment.

The fact that some religions are growing in NUMBERS doesn't mean the growth rate isn't declining whereas that of atheism is increasing.

From 16% to 12.5% of the world population. What don't you get about this?

rekinomtla:


this proves you didn't click on the link or look at the attachment.



From 16% to 12.5% of the world population. What don't you get about this?

Oh yes, I clicked the link and it was based on a PROGNOSIS

lovelygurl:


Oh yes, I clicked the link and it was based on a PROGNOSIS

Back by data. They not pulling these predictions out their azz it's based on observable trends and statistics. I bet if the predictions show an increase in atheism, you atheists would be citing these study like crazy.

rekinomtla:


Back by data. They not pulling these predictions out their azz it's based on observable trends and statistics. I bet if the predictions show an increase in atheism, you atheists would be citing these study like crazy.

I never knew there is a spokesman for all atheists in the world, but nice meeting you, now swerve

lovelygurl:


I never knew there is a spokesman for all atheists in the world, but nice meeting you, now swerve

Nice to me u as well. Now plz inform atheists you see claim otherwise of the decline of atheism.

rekinomtla:


Nice to me u as well. Now plz inform atheists you see claim otherwise of the decline of atheism.

You know, the thing about people like you is the inability of having a meaningful discussion, due to you letting sentimentality getting in the way of logical thinking.

1) Atheism: disbelief or lack of belief in the existence of God or gods.
Atheist: a person who disbelieves or lacks belief in the existence of God or gods.
Just because I, like someone else is an atheist does not mean we will have the same opinion on anything regarding religion.

Just because you are a Christian doesn't mean you'll agree with every Christian on topics that deals with religion. Especially if you consider the fact that there are protestants and catholics, both who claim to be Christians.

So this "I bet if the predictions show an increase in atheism, you atheists would be citing these study like crazy." is absolutely DUMB!

I, unlike you do not underline my thesis with prognosis, but facts. The fact that some atheists might happen to do so (just like YOU did) is not my business and won't change the fact of you using a PROGNOSIS to justify your opinion.

2) Your "perfect" prognosis had ONE SINGLE argument, which was based on the fact that western countries (which happen to be home to most atheists) have a very low birth/fertility rate.
The reason why it claims or they claim atheism is going to "die".

First of all, that was the most RIDICULOUS argument I have ever heard in my life and I can't believe you are using that EMBARRASSING study to justify your claim, lmaoooooooo.

1) You being born into a religious home does NOT mean you'll die a religious person. Many atheists, especially in Nigeria WERE NOT born atheists, something your prognosis failed to consider. Europe was a very religious continent just ca. SIXTY years ago and is now home to the majority of atheists in this world. The rise of atheism can be seen everywhere, in every country, even people born into muslim homes are now ditching Islam for atheism!

2) There's sth. called globalisation and sth. called social media. These two are things that have changed our world immensely, triggering changes all over the world, which would have before taken YEEEEEARS to achieve. Fortunately and Unfortunately (depending on how you want to see things), most countries in the world are western orientated. They adapt western cultures, starting from the jeans you wear, the language you speak, the polity you practice and even the RELIGION you're defending. At the end of the day, the philosophers I'm going to quote aren't Nigerians and the bible you are going to quote from isn't written by Nigerians.

The Syrian muslim girl, who fled to Germany because of the conflicts in her country is most likely to become an atheist than a girl who stays in Syria. It's called "one of the effects of globalisation". A lot of people are fleeing to WESTERN countries, be it because of war or the economy etc, it doesn't matter, what matters is they will be have to ADAPT. This includes a change in your mentality, leading you to questioning certain things. It all happens subconsciously.

3) Atheism will always exist because there has, is and will always be one person who doesn't believe in a god or gods. Considering the fact that technology and science are taking things to a whole different level- things which triggered the increase of atheism in the first place, it is absolutely RIDICULOUS to claim atheism is declining.

4) Because of people like you. I'm sure some atheists here on Nairaland became atheists because people like you where unable to give REASONABLE arguments on to why religion is necessary, but instead result into defending themselves with a PROGNOSIS and some even claiming people die just because they're evil or whatever that fool was blabbing


5) You'll be wasting your time quoting me 'cos I do not plan on replying. I think I have been nice enough by taking my precious time to break things down to you, (although I know it's probably a waste of time, since there's a very high chance you love lying to yourself.)
And also because it's very difficult having a conversation with someone incapable of thinking rationally.

TATIME:
Haaaaaaaaaaa me i no know oooooo. As long as you debunk the Bible and any other written documents,you're an atheist to me!
After all if i say false religions claiming Christians totally differs from true Christians you too won't listen!

ok