Peacefullove:
Deadlytruth be correcting and manipulating Jesus. Boy feels his lord make mistakes too much

Body and SOUl in hell, what does hell release ?



No one, no one, he says clearly. John 3 vs 13 has ascended to heaven. busting him again.

The mumu still thinks like his Yahoo plus ogas who taught that people will go BODILY to heaven when Jesus clearly states "NO ONE" and Apostle Paul clearly said flesh and blood{body} can not inherit the kingdom of God{Heaven} 1Corinthians 15:50
So the mumu wants to tell people that people have gone to heaven before Jesus but not in bodily form and some will still go in BODILY form!

Peacefullove:

1. The bold is what i wanted to know, So tell me the mindset he has
2. You that have read the hebrews, what does it say aboit their fate? Does it say they are saved or not?

achorladey is another "Judas Iscariot" who have spent all his life attending our meetings but his mind is not attached to what he is learning,and instead of him to go and worship where his mind is he refused to go! Revelations 3:16
Now FACELESSLY on social media,he can pour his heart out as in what has been stored during all that times of attending meetings but not able to speak publicly against those who born and fed him!

TATIME:
I think the 'body' could be compared to your PHYSIC while the 'soul' here means the PERSONALITY. For clearer understanding, John the baptist is a person and Herod Antipas is also a person. PHYSICALLY John can handle Herod but due to PERSONALITY differences Herod ordered for John's head! Today they're both DEAD but what about their personality as in their remembrance? While John is kept ALIVE in God's memory book{Malachi 3:16 compared to Revelations 20:15}Herod has joined Adam{never coming back again} So goes the BODY and SOUL!
Daniel after writing the book called by his name asked God "what is the meaning of all these things?" Daniel 12:8
God's response "go Daniel" twice! Daniel 12:9,13
If God said "GO" definitely Daniel will not be alive anywhere until the day of resurrection,but his virtuous PERSONALITY{soul} coupled with his PHYSIC{body} are stored in God's memory book of remembrance! Revelations 20:15
And as for the Lake of fire,it connotes complete destruction not the common GRAVE.
So Hell {symbol of GRAVE} will be hauled into the Lake of fire{symbol of complete DESTRUCTION} Revelations 20:14

Dont mind that idiot. Dragging words with his Jesus.

He said souls are in hell, but his Lord said its Body and SOUl that is in hell. The mumu is caught in his own net. Even saying is lord lied at John 3 vs 13, it should be bodily form when that one said no one, meaning bodily or not. None!

Deadlytruth, what does hell release ?

TATIME:
I think the 'body' could be compared to your PHYSIC while the 'soul' here means the PERSONALITY. For clearer understanding, John the baptist is a person and Herod Antipas is also a person. PHYSICALLY John can handle Herod but due to PERSONALITY differences Herod ordered for John's head! Today they're both DEAD but what about their personality as in their remembrance? [b[While John is kept ALIVE in God's memory book{Malachi 3:16[/b] compared to Revelations 20:15}Herod has joined Adam{never coming back again} So goes the BODY and SOUL!
Daniel after writing the book called by his name asked God "what is the meaning of all these things?" Daniel 12:8
God's response "go Daniel" twice! Daniel 12:9,13
If God said "GO" definitely Daniel will not be alive anywhere until the day of resurrection,but his virtuous PERSONALITY{soul} coupled with his PHYSIC{body} are stored in God's memory book of remembrance! Revelations 20:15
And as for the Lake of fire,it connotes complete destruction not the common GRAVE.
So Hell {symbol of GRAVE} will be hauled into the Lake of fire{symbol of complete DESTRUCTION} Revelations 20:14

Bwahahahahaha........! You are now reasoning backward, right? So your inability to show me a single verse which unequivocally says that the soul and the body both go to the grave made you embark on that conjectural merry-go-round in your first paragraph? So its is now a matter of being kept alive in God's memory? And you sincerely believe that God doesn't have Antipas too in his memory? All your permutations about Daniel are without any scrptural reference hence human fabrications as usual.
If you had been bold enough to just explain how a grave could be buried in another grave, you would have addressed this issue of the meaning of 'lake of fire' as you perceive it.

Deadlytruth:


All your references speak of spiritual death. But we are talking of physical death sir. Thanks.

yes bro
please explain to us the difference between physical death and spiritual death

Peacefullove:



Dont mind that idiot. Dragging words with his Jesus.

He said souls are in hell, but his Lord said its Body and SOUl that is in hell. The mumu is caught in his own net. Even saying is lord lied at John 3 vs 13, it should be bodily form when that one said no one, meaning bodily or not. None!

Deadlytruth, what does hell release ?

Look at this brainless cranium and mental slave of a publishing company under the manipulation of 8 men still showcasing his looted brain.
When people say "nobody" in normal conversation, are they referring to the physical body or soul? You fool!
I have answered all these questions you have kept on repeating like a broken record player but you are so ashamed to even attempt answering mine as to:
1. whether a grave can be thrown into another grave if 'lake of fire' means grave?
2. Why Jesus in his literal interpretation of the parable of wheat and tares didn't call the fire as grave but repeated that it is a firey furnace?
Of course I don't expect you to be able to answer it because you are under the influence of 8 manipulators who will disfellowship you for doing your own independent minded study of the Bible to discover that you really can't answer them.
Then you have also stupidly been avoiding this question too:
3. That if tomorrow, your manipulators see another brighter light which tells them that hell fire is not grave, will you be bold enough not to accept it and follow them sheepishly again to the denial of all that you are struggling in vain to defend now? Cursed agents of false prophets.
What happened to your over 20 predictions of the day and hour of Jesus' return? And you want any genuine seeker of truth to trust in a organization that has fulfilled the biblical condition for identifying false prophets? Big fool.

Crysthaniel:

yes bro
please explain to us the difference between physical death and spiritual death

Physical death means loss of life by the physical body while spiritual death means separation from God as a result of sin even though the person is still alive physically. God told Adam and Eve they would die if they ate out of the tree. When they did they didn't die a physical death but a spiritual one through separation from God.

Peacefullove:

Dont mind that idiot. Dragging words with his Jesus.
He said souls are in hell, but his Lord said its Body and SOUl that is in hell. The mumu is caught in his own net. Even saying is lord lied at John 3 vs 13, it should be bodily form when that one said no one, meaning bodily or not. None!
Deadlytruth, what does hell release ?

Truthfully speaking i don't blame many of them because their Yahoo plus ogas have sealed their minds not to listen to JWs, it happened to me as well.
But what baffles me is when i now notice some of them coming on social media to argue blindly on what they can't defend with efficacy!
Your Yahoo plus ogas said "don't engage JWs in Bible based debates" yet instead of knowing that something must be wrong somewhere,they're stubbornly coming to argue! Well it's good for honest hearted ones amongst them,just as an elderly brother once told me he said
"Do you know why their are more born JWs from Ilesha{Osun state} than Ibadan{Oyo state}?" he continues
"Well it's because the Ijeshas can argue over what is not clear to them,so most of them are doing so out of a clean conscience therefore by the end of the day,they'll finally embrace the TRUTH with tears of joy" he adds
"As for the Ibadans, they will sit quietly as if all is well but after confirming what you've discussed with them with their own mouth, will never make any changes!"
So who knows if any of them is really doing this from a clear conscience,and by the end of the day have a rethink
One thing i kept telling anyone here is "don't praise me when you notice the wisdom,because i received it by a thorough study with an organization{1Corinthians 4:7} And you too can be fully competent and completely equipped{2Timothy 3:17} much more than i do if you are truly hungry for spiritual things" Matthew 5:6

TATIME:
The mumu still thinks like his Yahoo plus ogas who taught that people will go BODILY to heaven when Jesus clearly states "NO ONE" and Apostle Paul clearly said flesh and blood{body} can not inherit the kingdom of God{Heaven} 1Corinthians 15:50
So the mumu wants to tell people that people have gone to heaven before Jesus but not in bodily form and some will still go in BODILY form!

Look at this mental slave of 8 New York manipulatators trying hard to defend a belief that he could start opposing tomorrow if his manipulators decide to see a new light. Aren't you even ashamed that what you believe is not stable? So the soul is now flesh and blood? Did you read what you wrote above at all?
And you have even contradicted yourselves because your organization believes that heaven is a paradise on this earth to be inherited by her members in their fleshy bodies. So look into the mirror again. False prophet!

Deadlytruth:

Bwahahahahaha........! You are now reasoning backward, right? So your inability to show me a single verse which unequivocally says that the soul and the body both go to the grave made you embark on that conjectural merry-go-round in your first paragraph? So its is now a matter of being kept alive in God's memory? And you sincerely believe that God doesn't have Antipas too in his memory? All your permutations about Daniel are without any scrptural reference hence human fabrications as usual.
If you had been bold enough to just explain how a grave could be buried in another grave, you would have addressed this issue of the meaning of 'lake of fire' as you perceive it.

You have no problem Sir,if you know better go and make disciples for your own Jesus just as JWs are making disciples for our own Jesus and receiving commendations from those who HUMBLY receive us into their homes! Zephaniah 2:2,3
For your information,PEACE comes from knowing fully well where to go for something obviously your none denominational idea means you have NO peace to me unlike those who have received the teachings of the JWs and are at peace with close to 9,000,000 of our happy spiritual family from different race globally! Matthew 10:13

Deadlytruth:


Physical death means loss of life by the physical body while spiritual death means separation from God as a result of sin even though the person is still alive physically. God told Adam and Eve they would die if they ate out of the tree. When they did they didn't die a physical death but a spiritual one through separation from God.

yes ooh if I may ask
which kind of death did Abraham and co died?

but Adam and Eve died naw (physical) according to Genesis Genesis 5:5
at that day Cox they no reach 1000 years

TATIME:
Truthfully speaking i don't blame many of them because their Yahoo plus ogas have sealed their minds not to listen to JWs, it happened to me as well.
But what baffles me is when i now notice some of them coming on social media to argue blindly on what they can't defend with efficacy!
Your Yahoo plus ogas said "don't engage JWs in Bible based debates" yet instead of knowing that something must be wrong somewhere,they're stubbornly coming to argue! Well it's good for honest hearted ones amongst them,just as an elderly brother once told me he said
"Do you know why their are more born JWs from Ilesha{Osun state} than Ibadan{Oyo state}?" he continues
"Well it's because the Ijeshas can argue over what is not clear to them,so most of them are doing so out of a clean conscience therefore by the end of the day,they'll finally embrace the TRUTH with tears of joy" he adds
"As for the Ibadans, they will sit quietly as if all is well but after confirming what you've discussed with them with their own mouth, will never make any changes!"
So who knows if any of them is really doing this from a clear conscience,and by the end of the day have a rethink
One thing i kept telling anyone here is "don't praise me when you notice the wisdom,because i received it by a thorough study with an organization{1Corinthians 4:7} And you too can be fully competent and completely equipped{2Timothy 3:17} much more than i do if you are truly hungry for spiritual things" Matthew 5:6

See who is accusing others of arguing blindly. Look into the mirror once more please.
The same person who claimed that after the encounter on the way to Damascus, Jesus asked Saul to return to Jerusalem to get tutored by the disciples when in actual fact Jesus asked Saul to continue into Damascus to receive healing, and Paul himself later revealing in Galatians 1:11-12 that he was taught by no human being.
What argument could be blinder than this?
You are just a very funny clown who evidences the fact that your organization is a very manipulative one whose members are forbidden from personal independent minded study of the Bible.
Self delusion is usually blissful.

Crysthaniel:


yes ooh if I may ask
which kind of death did Abraham and co died?

but Adam and Eve died naw (physical) according to Genesis Genesis 5:5
at that day Cox they no reach 1000 years

Abraham, Isaac and Jacob died physical deaths and never died spiritual deaths while alive unlike Adam and Eve.

Deadlytruth:


Physical death means loss of life by the physical body while spiritual death means separation from God as a result of sin even though the person is still alive physically. God told Adam and Eve they would die if they ate out of the tree. When they did they didn't die a physical death but a spiritual one through separation from God.

NO Sir, Adam and Eve died both PHYSICALLY and SPIRITUALLY that same day!
According apostle Peter Sir, a day in God's eyes is equivalent of 1,000 years before humans.2Peter 3:8
So if Adam and Eve never lived up to 1,000 years after eating the forbidden fruit{Genesis 5:5} definitely they died both PHYSICALLY and SPIRITUALLY that same day! Moreover there has never been any human who lived up to 1,000 years so let's look CAREFULLY into that MIRROR Sir!

Deadlytruth:


Abraham, Isaac and Jacob died physical deaths and never died spiritual deaths while alive unlike Adam and Eve.

where is Abraham Isaac Jacob and co right now?

Deadlytruth:


See who is accusing others of arguing blindly. Look into the mirror once more please.
The same person who claimed that after the encounter on the way to Damascus, Jesus asked Saul to return to Jerusalem to get tutored by the disciples when in actual fact Jesus asked Saul to continue into Damascus to receive healing, and Paul himself later revealing in Galatians 1:11-12 that he was taught by no human being.
What argument could be blinder than this?
You are just a very funny clown who evidences the fact that your organization is a very manipulative one whose members are forbidden from personal independent minded study of the Bible.
Self delusion is usually blissful.

Truthfully speaking Sir,you have the knowledge but it's just the confusion type. Because apart from JWs whose knowledge is ONE,{1Corinthians1:10,2Corinthians 13:11,Philippians 2:2}all of your folks have different versions of the same knowledge hence you keep arguing amongst yourself while worshiping your Jesus on NL.
But as for Jehovah's Witnesses there is NO contradictions everything is orderly Sir.Romans 15:5,6,Ephesians 4:3 compared with 1Corinthians 14:40

Deadlytruth:


Look at this mental slave of 8 New York manipulatators trying hard to defend a belief that he could start opposing tomorrow if his manipulators decide to see a new light. Aren't you even ashamed that what you believe is not stable? So the soul is now flesh and blood? Did you read what you wrote above at all?
And you have even contradicted yourselves because your organization believes that heaven is a paradise on this earth to be inherited by her members in their fleshy bodies. So look into the mirror again. False prophet!

You've gotten it wrong again Sir!
Our organization teaches that 144,000 Christians who have been bought from the earth will inherited a spiritual life in heaven,{Revelations 14:1}while countless obedient humans will live forever in Paradise on earth! Revelations 14:6 compared with Jesus' statement @ Matthew 5:5,David's prophecy @ Psalms 37:9-11,29,Solomon's Proverbs @ Proverbs 2:20-22,Isaiah 65:21-24
So JWs haven't taken any part and ignore another,that makes our teaching ACCURATE Sir!

@Deadlytruth
There was NO provision for humans to live in heaven from the beginning so all faithful servant of God hoped to live on a cleansed,peaceful and secured earth Paradise! That's why you can NEVER see any of them talk about going to live in heaven, But when Jesus told His co~rulers that He is going to PREPARE a place for them as their government house in heaven,most misinformed Churchgoers like your teachers thought God's plan regarding the earth has changed! Psalms 115:16,Ecclesisates 1:4
So to have accurate knowledge,you need to first consider these questions
*Adam and Eve would be where if they didn't sin?
*has God failed in HIS original plan regarding earth?
*why are some going to heaven?
*will they remain there or return to the earth?
*will the earth still be inhabited again ?
*Jesus specifically said heaven belongs only to the BORN AGAINS{water and spirit baptism} John 3:5,but He promised to be with that thief who NEVER got baptised neither by water nor spirit in Paradise. Luke 23:43 So where will the Paradise be,heaven or earth?
All these questions and many more are the things causing confusion amongst your folks,and if you can't solve these riddles it will be impossible to have really dedicated believers like those over 8,000,000 members of Jehovah's Witnesses!
Sorry that your so called none denominational folks are always at logger heads regarding all these issues,and honest hearted persons like me won't just ignore such contradictions claiming Christian in your midst!

TATIME:
@Deadlytruth
There was NO provision for humans to live in heaven from the beginning so all faithful servant of God hoped to live on a cleansed,peaceful and secured earth Paradise! That's why you can NEVER see any of them talk about going to live in heaven, But when Jesus told His co~rulers that He is going to PREPARE a place for them as their government house in heaven,most misinformed Churchgoers like your teachers thought God's plan regarding the earth has changed! Psalms 115:16,Ecclesisates 1:4
So to have accurate knowledge,you need to first consider these questions
*Adam and Eve would be where if they didn't sin?
*has God failed in HIS original plan regarding earth?
*why are some going to heaven?
*will they remain there or return to the earth?
*will the earth still be inhabited again ?
*Jesus specifically said heaven belongs only to the BORN AGAINS{water and spirit baptism} John 3:5,but He promised to be with that thief who NEVER got baptised neither by water nor spirit in Paradise. Luke 23:43 So where will the Paradise be,heaven or earth?
All these questions and many more are the things causing confusion amongst your folks,and if you can't solve these riddles it will be impossible to have really dedicated believers like those over 8,000,000 members of Jehovah's Witnesses!
Sorry that your so called none denominational folks are always at logger heads regarding all these issues,and honest hearted persons like me won't just ignore such contradictions claiming Christian in your midst!

Sorry, I have decided to ignore all these scrptural references above because experience has shown that 97% of your references are always out of context and verses taken in isolation.
And the simple question remains that: if heaven or God's expected kingdom means an earthly paraside to be inhabited by fleshy humans exactly like Adam and Eve created in the flesh to occupy the earth, then how come the 1 Corinthians 15:50 you quoted says that nothing in the flesh will enter into the kingdom of God? Or is the paradise a different thing from the kingdom of God? I need direct answers from the scriptures and not your usual conjectures.

TATIME:
You've gotten it wrong again Sir!
Our organization teaches that 144,000 Christians who have been bought from the earth will inherited a spiritual life in heaven,{Revelations 14:1}while countless obedient humans will live forever in Paradise on earth! Revelations 14:6 compared with Jesus' statement @ Matthew 5:5,David's prophecy @ Psalms 37:9-11,29,Solomon's Proverbs @ Proverbs 2:20-22,Isaiah 65:21-24
So JWs haven't taken any part and ignore another,that makes our teaching ACCURATE Sir!

Those 144,000 persons, according to Rev. 7:5-8 will be composed of 12,000 persons from each of the 12 tribes of Israel hence no none Israelite will be among. How then would they come from Among JWs who are neither Isreaelites nor Christians?
Mathew 5:5 speaks of the earthly benefit of the meek. Does that now mean that only the meek will be in paradise? Then where will those with all the rest attributes like purity of heart, peace making, poor in spirit, persecuted, hunger and thirst for righteousness, merciful, etc be? Can't you see you have lifted that verse in isolation again?

You always irritate me with how you pick verses in isolation. The Revelations 14:6 you referenced, when read further into verse 7 says as follows: "6. Then I saw another angel flying high in the air, with an eternal message of Good News to announce to the peoples of the earth, to every race, tribe, language, and nation. He said in a loud voice, *Honor God and praise his greatness! For the time has come for him to judge all people. Worship him who made heaven, earth, sea, and the springs of water!"

Now, from the two bolded sentences, isn't it clear that the passage is not referring to the time of eternity but talking about this present earthly times? Will there be different nation's speaking different tongues in your paradise on earth. Will God still be coming to judge people in that paradise where only those supposedly already ajudged righteous will expectedly be? See how you argue blindly and misquote the Bible with authority? I have been telling you that you are suffering from manipulation syndrome but you think I am villifying you. Isn't this another evidence that vindicates me?
Well, I won't even waste my time looking up the rest references you quoted because they sure to be out of context like this one I just pointed out.

TATIME:
Truthfully speaking Sir,you have the knowledge but it's just the confusion type. Because apart from JWs whose knowledge is ONE,{1Corinthians1:10,2Corinthians 13:11,Philippians 2:2}all of your folks have different versions of the same knowledge hence you keep arguing amongst yourself while worshiping your Jesus on NL.
But as for Jehovah's Witnesses there is NO contradictions everything is orderly Sir.Romans 15:5,6,Ephesians 4:3 compared with 1Corinthians 14:40

JWs' knowledge is one? Please why are you wasting your comedy skills online when some commedians are daily raking in millions with their very dry jokes?
How can an ever changing knowledge be one? I am laughing here and rolling on the floor! You will not kill me with laughter before my time. Chai!
JWs have opposing knowledge hence they have separated into at least 1,000 groups. Even among the residual ones they don't really share the same belief freely. Rather they are coerced to. A colleague of mine in the office who is a JW once confessed that during Bible study sessions in kingdom Halls, airing of an opinion divergent from the one dictated by the GB is not allowed and could lead to being disfellowshiped and shunned.

Crysthaniel:

where is Abraham Isaac Jacob and co right now?

If you are building on the previous response I gave you, then you should have rather asked where their souls are and where their bodies are.
Now let me ask you; are their souls and bodies together right now? If yes, then where?

Deadlytruth:

If you are building on the previous response I gave you, then you should have rather asked where their souls are and where their bodies are.
Now let me ask you; are their souls and bodies together right now? If yes, then where?

John 5:28-29
they are dead but Jehovah still remembers them ..
so when the resurrection of the dead begins they Will be brought back to life
implying that Even though currently they are dead.. they are alive by God's promise through Jesus Christ
compare Daniel 12:13

Crysthaniel:

yes bro
please explain to us the difference between physical death and spiritual death

Explain how the dead unconscious rich man in his grave felt agony in fire.

Deadlytruth:


Those 144,000 persons, according to Rev. 7:5-8 will be composed of 12,000 persons from each of the 12 tribes of Israel hence no none Israelite will be among. How then would they come from Among JWs who are neither Isreaelites nor Christians?
Mathew 5:5 speaks of the earthly benefit of the meek. Does that now mean that only the meek will be in paradise? Then where will those with all the rest attributes like purity of heart, peace making, poor in spirit, persecuted, hunger and thirst for righteousness, merciful, etc be? Can't you see you have lifted that verse in isolation again?

You always irritate me with how you pick verses in isolation. The Revelations 14:6 you referenced, when read further into verse 7 says as follows: "6. Then I saw another angel flying high in the air, with an eternal message of Good News to announce to the peoples of the earth, to every race, tribe, language, and nation. He said in a loud voice, *Honor God and praise his greatness! For the time has come for him to judge all people. Worship him who made heaven, earth, sea, and the springs of water!"

Now, from the two bolded sentences, isn't it clear that the passage is not referring to the time of eternity but talking about this present earthly times? Will there be different nation's speaking different tongues in your paradise on earth. Will God still be coming to judge people in that paradise where only those supposedly already ajudged righteous will expectedly be? See how you argue blindly and misquote the Bible with authority? I have been telling you that you are suffering from manipulation syndrome but you think I am villifying you. Isn't this another evidence that vindicates me?
Well, I won't even waste my time looking up the rest references you quoted because they sure to be out of context like this one I just pointed out.

You are just too hasty in your decisions. But all these questions i have asked JWs with criticism before i humbly BOW finally to divine wisdom,so why not calm down to see clearly
Well according to Revelations 14:1 it's 144,000 which means those going to rule with Jesus are LIMITED in number.
Now if you're a competent Bible Student,you will notice something there in the names of those twelve mentioned @ Revelations 7:5-8 that IT'S NOT THE COMPLETE NAMES OF THE ORIGINAL TWELVE TRIBES. So you can crosscheck the real names of the ORIGINAL twelve tribes of Israel at Exodus 1:2,3 carefully compare with the names mentioned at Revelations 7:5-8
If you're ready to know why there is a subtraction and addition in the name,you can humbly ask and you'll know the answer. But let me assure you that the tribe's name is not to be taken literally!

Deadlytruth:


JWs' knowledge is one? Please why are you wasting your comedy skills online when some commedians are daily raking in millions with their very dry jokes?
How can an ever changing knowledge be one? I am laughing here and rolling on the floor! You will not kill me with laughter before my time. Chai!
JWs have opposing knowledge hence they have separated into at least 1,000 groups. Even among the residual ones they don't really share the same belief freely. Rather they are coerced to. A colleague of mine in the office who is a JW once confessed that during Bible study sessions in kingdom Halls, airing of an opinion divergent from the one dictated by the GB is not allowed and could lead to being disfellowshiped and shunned.

Your opening words and the closing here is confusing please. Is it that JWs have fractions {meaning different doctrines like your folks}or that whoever attempt divergence {disorganise the doctrine} will be removed.
Please let people get exactly where you're heading!

Deadlytruth:

Sorry, I have decided to ignore all these scrptural references above because experience has shown that 97% of your references are always out of context and verses taken in isolation.
And the simple question remains that: if heaven or God's expected kingdom means an earthly paraside to be inhabited by fleshy humans exactly like Adam and Eve created in the flesh to occupy the earth, then how come the 1 Corinthians 15:50 you quoted says that nothing in the flesh will enter into the kingdom of God? Or is the paradise a different thing from the kingdom of God? I need direct answers from the scriptures and not your usual conjectures.

You're in Nigeria,Senators and Reps elected from each states are taken to Abuja{Federal Capital} right?
Well try to calm down for divine wisdom instead of this tradition of 'all good people goes to heaven"
*God's government to rule the earth was promised to be seated in Jerusalem on {David's throne}! Isaiah 9:7
*Jesus is the rightful heir to King David's throne! Isaiah 11:1 Matthew 1:1
*Jerusalem was condemned for the spilling of the blood of God's prophets and finally that of Jesus! Matthew 23:37
*Apostles were confused because Jesus speaks of Jerusalem's doom! Matthew 24:1-3
*Jesus promised them not to worry about Jerusalem because He will go to heaven and prepare a government house there for them to stay! John 14:1-4
But the Original plan of God to make the earth a Paradise has not changed!
So while Paradise is going to be here on earth,heaven is where our government{born again Christians transformed into spirits} will be with Jesus our King!
If you're not humble,you'll just continue to agitate against JWs but i'm telling you confidently that the UNDERSTANDING of the sacred secret of God's Kingdom has been revealed to ONLY this group! Daniel 12:10
So stop thinking it's just the idea of some New Yorkers because hatred against them can't delete all these straightforward explanations from the brains of the one who has gotten it clearly! Isaiah 54:17
NONE of all those opposing this group will SEE either Paradise on earth talkless going to dwell as spirit beings in heaven! So humble yourself to learn!

@Deadlytruth
To be candid it's REALLY annoying to agree that those vilified bag carriers,who can drink for africa's Guinness book of record could be anything spiritual talkless being the ONLY true Christian group GLOBALLY!
But na so i see am oooooo!
So if you want to change the mind of a Jehovah's Witness like me,please just let me understand something better than the common tradition of "Heaven is real,Hell is real" doctrine that's agreed upon by all religious groups including Muslims,whereas none of them can competently convince a totally neutral person on those things!
So if you've gotten something better,just let me know because me self i no gbadun this carry carry of bags to go dey knock the doors of people wey no invite me.
But until then, JWs are the ONE and ONLY group having the COMPLETE knowledge as in ACCURATE understanding of the Bible from Genesis to Revelations! God bless you.

TATIME:
@Deadlytruth
To be candid it's REALLY annoying to agree that those vilified bag carriers,who can drink for africa's Guinness book of record could be anything spiritual talkless being the ONLY true Christian group GLOBALLY!
But na so i see am oooooo!
So if you want to change the mind of a Jehovah's Witness like me,please just let me understand something better than the common tradition of "Heaven is real,Hell is real" doctrine that's agreed upon by all religious groups including Muslims,whereas none of them can competently convince a totally neutral person on those things!
So if you've gotten something better,just let me know because me self i no gbadun this carry carry of bags to go dey knock the doors of people wey no invite me.
But until then, JWs are the ONE and ONLY group having the COMPLETE knowledge as in ACCURATE understanding of the Bible from Genesis to Revelations! God bless you.

Only true Christian group when no dey free say them be Christian. Lol.
The only Christian group that worship in a kingdom hall when the bible never even mentioned kingdom hall. Lol.

TATIME:
You're in Nigeria,Senators and Reps elected from each states are taken to Abuja{Federal Capital} right?
Well try to calm down for divine wisdom instead of this tradition of 'all good people goes to heaven"
*God's government to rule the earth was promised to be seated in Jerusalem on {David's throne}! Isaiah 9:7
*Jesus is the rightful heir to King David's throne! Isaiah 11:1 Matthew 1:1
*Jerusalem was condemned for the spilling of the blood of God's prophets and finally that of Jesus! Matthew 23:37
*Apostles were confused because Jesus speaks of Jerusalem's doom! Matthew 24:1-3
*Jesus promised them not to worry about Jerusalem because He will go to heaven and prepare a government house there for them to stay! John 14:1-4
But the Original plan of God to make the earth a Paradise has not changed!
So while Paradise is going to be here on earth,heaven is where our government{born again Christians transformed into spirits} will be with Jesus our King!
If you're not humble,you'll just continue to agitate against JWs but i'm telling you confidently that the UNDERSTANDING of the sacred secret of God's Kingdom has been revealed to ONLY this group! Daniel 12:10
So stop thinking it's just the idea of some New Yorkers because hatred against them can't delete all these straightforward explanations from the brains of the one who has gotten it clearly! Isaiah 54:17
NONE of all those opposing this group will SEE either Paradise on earth talkless going to dwell as spirit beings in heaven! So humble yourself to learn!

So born again Christians will be transformed into spirits? I thought spirits are not in heaven. I thought is only human beings you see in heaven and I thought government is found only on earth?
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Hairyrapunzel:


So born again Christians will be transformed into spirits? I thought spirits are not in heaven. I thought is only human beings you see in heaven and I thought government is found only on earth?
Lol

Abeg Sir,na you be Deadlytruth? Because i'm directing those post to Deadlytruth who seems to be commenting FROM A PURE HEART,so i feel like opening up to him in order to see that Jehovah's Witnesses organization is NOT that easy to practice.Unlike you who has NOTHING in your skull than hatred for JWs for disfellowshiping you from their midst!

@Deadlytruth
If you're angry because of all the mistakes and hypocritical attitudes of some members of JWs,of course your annoyance is justified. But remember that the same reason is what hindered most enemies of God's people{Israelites} of ancient times,many feels that Israelites shouldn't claim to be anything better than other tribes since many Israelites also behaves indecently! But God said "Israel is my son,my firstborn!" Exodus 4:22
Abeg shey na Jehovah born Israel{Jacob}? No be Isaac born am?
So if Jehovah choose a group the only sign you will see to be sure is what Isaiah and Jesus said. They will be united in thought and their understanding will be unshakable! Isaiah 54:17,John 17:14-23
Jesus said "an adulterous generation seek for a sign,but NONE will be given them unless the sign of Jonah" Matthew 12:39
Now Jonah was a prophet who was sent on a mission but RAN AWAY from the mission,he later got to Nineveh and the people he preached to saw NO SIGN except what Jonah tells them! Now think of what many today would have done if they consider Jonah's attitude,will they have listened to whatever such a RUNAWAY prophet has to say without a single sign from heaven?
What most people are criticizing Jehovah's Witnesses for today is past mistakes of those leading the organization. Well the sign they are indirectly seeking or expecting is a PERFECT organization where imperfect humans leading won't make any mistakes while passing instructions to their followers from a PERFECT God! But this happened to Moses and all other imperfect prophets of old except Jesus Christ who came down from heaven!