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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 5:21pm On Mar 20, 2019 |
raumdeuter: How many assists does Pedro have this season? You have forgotten to compare their goals contributions, atleast thats what a sensible analyst will mention. 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by thorrvik55(m): 5:24pm On Mar 20, 2019 |
raumdeuter: So eden hazard has failed as an attacker at Chelsea despite the fact dat d last two times d blues won the league he was undoubtedly their best performer. If dat is failure then I don't know what to say about players like harry Kane and salah dat are yet to win shit at their respective clubs... 4 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 5:25pm On Mar 20, 2019 |
airmark: How many more minutes does Hidden Hazard have this season? Sensible analysts will look at how a player with 1000min less is dragging goals with the Messi of Chelsea 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by SkimpleD: 5:26pm On Mar 20, 2019 |
airmark:Baba, leave Dayo na. We dey discuss gods of |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 5:26pm On Mar 20, 2019 |
thorrvik55:How can Hidden Hazard be the best performer in 2017, when Kante and Azpi were there? Or how in 2015 when Costa and fabregas were Kane and Salah do their jobs. Last season Salah topped the scorers chart Kane did some seasons back. When has Hazard ever topped goals or assist chart for Chelsea never mind the entire league |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 5:28pm On Mar 20, 2019 |
SkimpleD:It's always good to read about different religions so one can gain deeper insight into life issues. It's a personal endeavour. When Europeans and Arabs brought their religions into our lands a few hundred years ago, people knew little of Jehovah/Yahweh, Jesus, Allah. To familiarise the people with these entities, they told them Jehovah means God in Hebrew and Olorun/Olohun in Yoruba, or Chukwu/Chineke in Ibo. Olorun, Sango, Ogun, Oya, Chukwu, Chineke and the likes were all local deities Africans used to worship before slave masters and colonialists from Rome and terrorists from Arabia brought their own gods into Africa and merged the traits of Yahweh, Allah with those of our indigenous gods. This mischievous act of combining various ideologies or beliefs is called syncretism and twists historical facts and myths about gods in religions. But those that know the history of religions understand how powerful people use religion to colonize and dominate weaker people. It's all political. For instance, some Muslims pray to Olohun as Allah but Olorun has Obatala as a son, as depicted in historical facts about the deity, but Allah has no child or son, as stated in Qur'an. The syncretism causes confusion. To get rid of the confusion, it's wise to read the history of religions and the history of different gods, such as Yahweh, Allah, Jesus, Olorun, El, Gilgamesh, that people worship in religions. It's all deceit and mind control. 3 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 5:33pm On Mar 20, 2019 |
HanksAnuku: Bims go don kill like 70 rams/goats. Chai. Maybe raumdeuter's $100 went to the shrine. Who knows? 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 5:37pm On Mar 20, 2019 |
https://www.nairaland.com/5089251/lionel-messi-cloned-genetics-scientist Here's a scientist claiming Lionel Messi can be cloned. This is a contentious issue with ethicists and religionists. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 5:39pm On Mar 20, 2019 |
SkimpleD: I don leave raumdeuter. You notice he didn't say anything about this Fenibeso, powerful god. Meanwhile, it seems Fenibeso failed in fantasy football too o. 1 Like
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by larride(m): 5:40pm On Mar 20, 2019 |
gensteejay: I don’t need to go grab any book because I’m a full blooded Yoruba. It’s obvious you are not Yoruba. When I say you spew a lot of rubbish with so much confidence you actually think I’m abusing you. Your ignorance is legendary. Olorun is what Yorubas call God even before religion came to these side. Olorun and Jesus does not have the same trait. Yorubas call Jesus OLUWA. OLUWA is different from OLORUN. When you say Jesus is Lord it translates loosely to Jesu Ni Oluwa. OLUWA means Lord. Olorun/Olodumare/Eledumare - Yoruba Yahweh/Jehovah - Hebrew Allah - Arabic God - English So I ask you again, is Olorun Jesus? 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by thorrvik55(m): 5:51pm On Mar 20, 2019 |
raumdeuter: So hazard was not Chelsea's best performer in 2015 despite d fact but he was given the PFA player of the year. Lemme just do as if I did not see azpilicueta up there self... U see why people refer to u as d greatest AMALA TURNER of our time? U said eden hazard has been a failure at Chelsea and I reminded u dat he helped Chelsea to two premier league trophies and d likes of harry Kane and salah are yet to win shit and ur reply is dat they topped goals scorers chart. Let me get did clear, harry Kane and salah's premier league career has not been a failure because they topped goals chart but eden hazard's premier league career has been a failure despite leading his team to two premier league trophies ehn 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by larride(m): 5:52pm On Mar 20, 2019 |
gensteejay: Can you stake 10k on your claim that Olorun is a deity that is been worshipped by the locals? Let’s put your Education to test. 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueRayDick: 5:54pm On Mar 20, 2019 |
larride: First and foremost, Yorubas(mostly Lagos born and breds) refer to God as Ọlọhun. Those from the hinterlands say Ọlọ́run. Pentecostal Yorubas when talking about trinity say :" Ọlọ́run bàbà, Ọlọ́run ọmọ àti Ọlọ́run ẹ̀mí mímọ́.(Meaning God the father, God the son and God the holy spirit).Ọlọ́run ọmọ which is God the son is inseparable from the trinity as they are referred to as mẹta lọ́kàn (Trinity) So if the Guy says Ọlọhun / Ọlọ́run is Jesus I don't think he's wrong, except you just want to troll him because you don't agree with his atheist point of view. And yes Ọlọ́run according to the Yorubas is orisha ńlá, the biggest ong the gods. He lives in the sky and rules over the affairs of the world. It is believed he is so big you have to tru other deities which explains why Orunmila is consulted to know his mind and what he holds in the future for individuals. Most people who have smaller deities they worship in the Yorubaland of old prior to the missionaries and Arabs coming still look up to Ọlọ́run / Ọlọhun for better days ahead. 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 5:59pm On Mar 20, 2019 |
larride:You are right. Keep wallowing in your ignorance.
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 6:02pm On Mar 20, 2019 |
larride:You are not making any sense. Go and read books on the history of religion and colonialism in Nigeria and cure yourself of ignorance. Reading could be an arduous task for people that are mentally lazy. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueRayDick: 6:07pm On Mar 20, 2019 |
larride: Olúwa is lord quite alright. But Jesus is also called God by those who believe in trinity ( majority of pentecostal Yorubas fall into this category) i.e God the son. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by larride(m): 6:10pm On Mar 20, 2019 |
BlueRayDick: Whether in Lagos or in the hinterland, OLORUN is OLORUN. Olorun has never been spelt as OLOHUN. Now to your other post. Yorubas do not worship Olorun directly, in fact there’s no shrine or place of worship to go and worship Olorun. There are place of worship for Orunmila, Obatala, Sango, Ogun even Esu but there’s no place of worship for Olorun. It is Olorun that grants Orunmila, Obatala, Sango, Ogun and the likes their power. Bible says Jesus is our Lord. Lord means Oluwa and NOT Olorun. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by larride(m): 6:13pm On Mar 20, 2019 |
gensteejay: Put 10k on your knowledge and show any shrine in Yorubaland or anywhere that Olorun is been worshiped. Let’s test your Education. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 6:13pm On Mar 20, 2019 |
thorrvik55: In 2015 Costa and Fabregas were better than Hidden Hazard and no polling booth award will tell us otherwise. In 2017 Kante and Azpilicueta were better than Hazard in Chelsea Hazard won the premier league trophies because he was carried by Kante, Azpi, Fabregas and Costa. Kane and Salah did their jobs by topping the scorers chart. Hazard did not lead anything he was carried on just like Mikel and Pedro 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 6:16pm On Mar 20, 2019 |
larride:Are all gods worshipped in a shrine? By praying to a god/goddess and sacrificing things in his/her name, you're worshipping that god. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 6:16pm On Mar 20, 2019 |
gensteejay: I remember when we told you some of us saw juju in action, you asked for video evidence before you could believe. Now, who told you that what you read about the history of religion and colonialism in Nigeria, to cement your view, was true? Were you there? Where's the video evidence? This is a major problem with you and Dayo. 5 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by larride(m): 6:16pm On Mar 20, 2019 |
BlueRayDick: Olorun has NEVER been referred to as a LORD, Yes or No? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by larride(m): 6:18pm On Mar 20, 2019 |
gensteejay: Oya, let’s put 10k and show me any where in Yorubaland where anyone sacrifice anything to “Olorun”. 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 6:25pm On Mar 20, 2019 |
airmark:There are several books written by scholars and experts in history on the subject. So facts in such books and research journals are solid pieces of evidence. At least, most of us were taught the history of Olohun, Sango, Ogun, Ogun, Oya, Osun, Eshu in primary/elementary school Yoruba. Only an unlettered fellow will see books and research journals on this subject in the academia as weak evidence. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 6:25pm On Mar 20, 2019 |
airmark:There are several books written by scholars and experts in history on the subject. So facts in such books and research journals are solid evidence pieces of evidence. At least, most of us were taught the history of Olohun, Sango, Ogun, Ogun, Oya, Osun, Eshu in primary/elementary school Yoruba. Only an unlettered fellow will see books and research journals on this subject in the academia as weak evidence. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by sod09(m): 6:26pm On Mar 20, 2019 |
HanksAnuku:that American gods is one shitty series Old gods v new gods |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by ToyinDipo(m): 6:26pm On Mar 20, 2019 |
HanksAnuku:Haha The good people of Rivers will outsource the implementation and deployment of updated version of Fenibeso |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by NOBODYY: 6:27pm On Mar 20, 2019 |
raumdeuter: In 2017/18 he was Chelseas highest goal scorer Same as 2013/2014. Although the season is still running, he is still Chelseas highest goal scorer this season. 9 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 6:28pm On Mar 20, 2019 |
larride:Can you see any sense in this your question when the event you're talking about took place few hundred years ago before the advent of Christianity and Islam in Nigeria? When most people were African traditional worshippers. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueRayDick: 6:29pm On Mar 20, 2019 |
larride: So where do you think Ọlọhun originated from? Benin republic? It's just a corrupt form of Ọlọ́run. Most people who grew up in Lagos use it. There are a lot of Yoruba words like that Yorubas in Lagos use that ate not really the original form of Yoruba. There are numerous examples. If you want I will give you. Nobody said there's a shrine for Ọlọ́run. I already told you most people worship smaller deities which u repeated in your post. Ọlọrun is highly revered and called orisha ńla. He's always begged to tamper justice with mercy ; Hence you hear people make comments like orisha òkè là bẹ kò fún wa lomo ( We beseech the God of the sky to give us offspring) As for you saying the Bible didn't refer to Jesus as God, you obviously haven't read your Bible as much as you claim. I will give you few passages to show you gaffe in that regard 1. "After eight days His disciples were again inside, and Thomas with them. Jesus came, the doors having been shut, and stood in their midst and said, 'Peace be with you.' Then He said to Thomas, 'Reach here with your finger, and see My hands; and reach here your hand and put it into My side; and do not be unbelieving, but believing.' Thomas answered and said to Him, 'My Lord and my God!' Jesus said to him, 'Because you have seen Me, have you believed? Blessed are they who did not see, and yet believed,'” (John 20:26-29). 2. "For a child will be born to us, a son will be given to us; And the government will rest on His shoulders; And His name will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God , Eternal Father, Prince of Peace," (Isaiah 9:6). 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by sod09(m): 6:31pm On Mar 20, 2019 |
gensteejay:bros Jesus shouldn't be compare to Yahweh,olorun or Allah |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueRayDick: 6:32pm On Mar 20, 2019 |
larride: Ọlọ́run is God. But Jesus is also God yes or no? I've sent Bible passages that prove this to be true ; so your yes or no might not really matter 1 Like |
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