somessi:


Green beans - the next goldmine line of Agribusiness. Massive market value, but seldom implemented, especially in this part of the world. Please, from the time of cultivation, how many weeks / months does it take before harvest? Thank you bro!

45 to 50 days for most varieties from sowing to first harvest.

okoroemeka:
after a well detailed investigation about the economics of the grocery trade,the results was a big shock,the crops we think are the money spinners are low on value for money index,take cucumbers for example wholesale farmgate prices for it now is #100 naira/kg=#4,000 for 40kg 1 bag,let's take another example watermelon is being bought wholesale fatmgate at #40-50 naira/kg=#400-500 naira for a 10-12 kg ball,ok,let's consider the humble,no noise making green beans the wholesale farmgate price for it now is #400-500 naira per kg,my investigation found out that it's the lowest price after Xmas,it was sold for #800/kg during the dry season and #400 naira is the lowest it can get,hmmmm !!!,green beans is five times more valuable than cucumbers and ten times more valuable than WM,so that set us thinking HOW HARD CAN IT GET,we tilled half plot today and planted 1800 bean Cora variety (technisem) on it and will plant more in staggered sets every 3 weeks,it will be an interesting head to head drag race between these three fantastic crops in our farm,

You can't compare different crops that way becos the yield per area are not the same.

okoroemeka:
after a well detailed investigation about the economics of the grocery trade,the results was a big shock,the crops we think are the money spinners are low on value for money index,take cucumbers for example wholesale farmgate prices for it now is #100 naira/kg=#4,000 for 40kg 1 bag,let's take another example watermelon is being bought wholesale fatmgate at #40-50 naira/kg=#400-500 naira for a 10-12 kg ball,ok,let's consider the humble,no noise making green beans the wholesale farmgate price for it now is #400-500 naira per kg,my investigation found out that it's the lowest price after Xmas,it was sold for #800/kg during the dry season and #400 naira is the lowest it can get,hmmmm !!!,green beans is five times more valuable than cucumbers and ten times more valuable than WM,so that set us thinking HOW HARD CAN IT GET,we tilled half plot today and planted 1800 bean Cora variety (technisem) on it and will plant more in staggered sets every 3 weeks,it will be an interesting head to head drag race between these three fantastic crops in our farm,

Sir, please how much is that 1kg pack of Cora beans?

EMMAACHILE:

You can't compare different crops that way becos the yield per area are not the same.

we have pegged out 50×25 feet square in both cucumber and watermelon farm to see their yield against the green beans,technisem is giving estimate yield of 3.3llbs (1.5kg)for each Cora bean crop,if you scale that up by let's say, 1500 crops will survive out of 1800 to yield 1 kg each,u have 1,500kg×400 naira=#600,000 naira,so as you can see my friends there's no way cucumbers or watermelon can pull 25% of that income from half plot of land.

Cocoboms:


Sir, please how much is that 1kg pack of Cora beans?

#6,000k,we didn't count the seeds but from what remained it will plant another 2 more staggered planting of 1,800 crops each.

the bush variety Cora bean does not need staking and produces for 3-4 weeks after 40-45 days of planting,with an average yield per plant of 3-3.5llbs per crop,if the soil is fertile it will not need additional fertilizer or just organic manure.while on the other side the pole bean variety super giant needs serious staking 6-7 feet high,it produces for 2-3 months after 60-65 days of planting,with an average yield of 6-6.6llbs per crop,these leguminous crops are nitrogen fixers,if grown in poor soil they amend the soil by pumping Nitrogen in it making it more fertile,Technisem super giant pole bean type @#2,000 naira for 10 grams,this is another crazy yielding crop !!!NB ,pls note that all information are from technisem catalogue and agritropic Nigeria.

okoroemeka:
#6,000k,we didn't count the seeds but from what remained it will plant another 2 more staggered planting of 1,800 crops each.

Okay sir. Thanks

okoroemeka:
we have pegged out 50×25 feet square in both cucumber and watermelon farm to see their yield against the green beans,technisem is giving estimate yield of 3.3llbs (1.5kg)for each Cora bean crop,if you scale that up by let's say, 1500 crops will survive out of 1800 to yield 1 kg each,u have 1,500kg×400 naira=#600,000 naira,so as you can see my friends there's no way cucumbers or watermelon can pull 25% of that income from half plot of land.

Hmmmm.....1kg per seed of Cora beans? Is that really feasible One seed produce 1kg of green beans

Cocoboms:


Hmmmm.....1kg per seed of Cora beans? Is that really feasible One seed produce 1kg of green beans

to tell you the truth I am skeptical about the figures the seed company could throw out, sometimes it is not what they say sometimes it's more than what they say,I believe weather,soil and management has a lot to do with the final yield,EG techinisem said that Heracles F1 WM will mature in 80 days,but a friend harvested in 68 days,but all I know is that they will not throw out such figures without careful observation and verification,so be assured that a well managed bean crop with weather cooperating can match or even beat their own figures.

please my own question would be regarding cukes, can organic foliar fertilizer be used all through for cukes

okoroemeka:
to tell you the truth I am skeptical about the figures the seed company could throw out, sometimes it is not what they say sometimes it's more than what they say,I believe weather,soil and management has a lot to do with the final yield,EG techinisem said that Heracles F1 WM will mature in 80 days,but a friend harvested in 68 days,but all I know is that they will not throw out such figures without careful observation and verification,so be assured that a well managed bean crop with weather cooperating can match or even beat their own figures.

You are right there. You never can tell until we actually try it. That Heracles f1 in 68 days still surprises me

lahify:
please my own question would be regarding cukes, can organic foliar fertilizer be used all through for cukes

yes,it is possible only if the land in question is super fertile and had been fallow for some years,yes it's possible,but if it's the type of land we are using that had been raped and abused continuously for 6 year now,it can't work.

lahify:
please my own question would be regarding cukes, can organic foliar fertilizer be used all through for cukes

becareful what u spray on cucumber leaves,use manure and that organic foliar spray,if the soil is healthy,no nematodes it will work.

@op, do you think there's a significant difference in the production (yield) of Cora beans variety and the popular contender beans variety? What do you think?

okoroemeka:
the bush variety Cora bean does not need staking and produces for 3-4 weeks after 40-45 days of planting,with an average yield per plant of 3-3.5llbs per crop,if the soil is fertile it will not need additional fertilizer or just organic manure.while on the other side the pole bean variety super giant needs serious staking 6-7 feet high,it produces for 2-3 months after 60-65 days of planting,with an average yield of 6-6.6llbs per crop,these leguminous crops are nitrogen fixers,if grown in poor soil they amend the soil by pumping Nitrogen in it making it more fertile,Technisem super giant pole bean type @#2,000 naira for 10 grams,this is another crazy yielding crop !!!NB ,pls note that all information are from technisem catalogue and agritropic Nigeria.

Cocoboms:
@op, do you think there's a significant difference in the production (yield) of Cora beans variety and the popular contender beans variety? What do you think?

they are both dwarf bush type variety with almost identical pods and yield, the only difference is contender loves cool weather, while Cora will thrive in any condition.we had a bitter lesson on weather requirement with cabbage so we are no longer taking chances.

okoroemeka:
they are both dwarf bush type variety with almost identical pods and yield, the only difference is contender loves cool weather, while Cora will thrive in any condition.we had a bitter lesson on weather requirement with cabbage so we are no longer taking chances.

Thank you sir. You really hit a salient point about the weather preference of the two varieties

okoroemeka:
becareful what u spray on cucumber leaves,use manure and that organic foliar spray,if the soil is healthy,no nematodes it will work.

thanks hope wormforce is effective against nematodes for cucumber farming?

lahify:
thanks hope wormforce is effective against nematodes for cucumber farming?

yes,2 grams per planting space or hole for 2 crops

oga thank you, I guess inorganic is the way to go by giving them npk after three days of planting, urea + npk after 15days and fruit bloom organic fertilizer for attractive flowers to bees after 30days of planting

lahify:
oga thank you, I guess inorganic is the way to go by giving them npk after three days of planting, urea + npk after 15days and fruit bloom organic fertilizer for attractive flowers to bees after 30days of planting

becareful with that urea don't say I no tell you

thanks boss, I know that urea burns,

Oga emeka, I like your input as a farmer sir, I read your comments on another thread about planting 4000cucumber on two plots, please what is the spacing required to achieve this using raised beds, and how long should the beds be in order to use 100 long bamboos as you said, plus if I'm getting chicken manure, how do I use it in order not to burn my crops(hope you are not annoyed by my questions) and what's your take on greengo seeds

anelka78:
Oga emeka, I like your input as a farmer sir, I read your comments on another thread about planting 4000cucumber on two plots, please what is the spacing required to achieve this using raised beds, and how long should the beds be in order to use 100 long bamboos as you said, plus if I'm getting chicken manure, how do I use it in order not to burn my crops(hope you are not annoyed by my questions) and what's your take on greengo seeds

Annoyed? That is not possible with a humble man like Mr Emeka. I have been following him since last year and he has never withhold useful info from us. God bless Okoroemeka!!!

anelka78:
Oga emeka, I like your input as a farmer sir, I read your comments on another thread about planting 4000cucumber on two plots, please what is the spacing required to achieve this using raised beds, and how long should the beds be in order to use 100 long bamboos as you said, plus if I'm getting chicken manure, how do I use it in order not to burn my crops(hope you are not annoyed by my questions) and what's your take on greengo seeds

I don't think you can achieve that plant density if you use raised beds because the ridge workers cannot maintain the strict 2 feet space in between rows,only the hole system can give you much plant density,but the rains are here and the hole system can no longer be used due to obvious reasons.,but you can do a slightly wider bed and plant at the two sides leaving a space of 2 feet in between the planted row,so your bed should be at least 3 feet wide,very important and u stake every bed in the middle and bringing up the cukes from the two sides with nylon strings.just used well composted manure it will not burn your crops,greengo has incredible resistance to Downy mildrew but it has small size compared to it's other siblings like monalisa or saira,tell u the truth I will rather go for a bigger size variety and maintain good agricultural practice,in the end size makes the difference in yield.

Thanks sir, why I chose greengo is because light green and big sized cucumbers like cu999 does not command big money from the hausa people here in ibadan (after I did my market survey) and a friend told me that since I'm a new farmer greengo would be good for me due to it's resistance to downy mildew, he told me to buy 3 different pesticides and saaf fungicides for my pest control and it produces ten female flowers to a male flower.

Though he said they are average sized but he said if I don't want to get my hands burnt in my first cucumber project, greengo is good , and sir I've seen people bringing different fertilization schedule on this thread, please sir guide me on the best to use

anelka78:
Thanks sir, why I chose greengo is because light green and big sized cucumbers like cu999 does not command big money from the hausa people here in ibadan (after I did my market survey) and a friend told me that since I'm a new farmer greengo would be good for me due to it's resistance to downy mildew, he told me to buy 3 different pesticides and saaf fungicides for my pest control and it produces ten female flowers to a male flower.

same thing applies here in osun state.
the market around here prefers medium sized cukes as opposed to the monster sized ones like cu999

Greetings GREAT MINDS, I have gone through this thread, i must applaud all what you are doing. I am a fresh graduate and i desire so much to replicate what you are doing in my life. Rather than wasting about while time passes, I want to farm.
However, i need your guidance. What crop would be best since i am yet a novice, taking note of my residential area, Benin City?
PLEASE HELP ME AND MAKE ME GREAT TOO.
THANK YOU.

okoroemeka:
#6,000k,we didn't count the seeds but from what remained it will plant another 2 more staggered planting of 1,800 crops each.

Please kindly give me contact of d shop you bought from. All the agritropic offices around my area don't have the 1kg pack, and it's not economical to buy sachet.

Cocoboms:


Please kindly give me contact of d shop you bought from. All the agritropic offices around my area don't have the 1kg pack, and it's not economical to buy sachet.

agritropic office in enugu,WhatsApp me to get the sales woman digits.

anelka78:
Though he said they are average sized but he said if I don't want to get my hands burnt in my first cucumber project, greengo is good , and sir I've seen people bringing different fertilization schedule on this thread, please sir guide me on the best to use

the first thing to do before planting is apply manure,then plant,if u see tendrils,apply npk 20 10 10,we mix it with urea because of the poor soil we have,if u have good soil leave urea at that stage,after 2 weeks put npk 20 10 10 + urea,if you see flower at 28-30 days use,npk 15 15 15 + manure,after 2nd harvest repeat only npk 151515 and do so every 2nd harvest,for serious commercial cucumber farms fertilizer is applied every 7-10 days and while u are doing that foliar fertilizer will be sprayed on the leafs every week with fungicides and other concoctions.if your soil is rich and u follow this procedure u will harvest more than ten times.NB we use bottle crown cap for measuring ferts,it's roughly 6 grams.

okoroemeka:
agritropic office in enugu,WhatsApp me to get the sales woman digits.

Okay sir. Thanks. I'll send you a message now