Barristter07:


O ma se o .

To have or has flesh as u said, IS NOT the same as being Human .

Angels does that many times . but no one ever called them human.

They ain't " Flesh and BLOOD " Creations .

I learnt something in the book 'Greatest man who ever lived'. @ Luke 16:24 it was interpreted that the Richman class would be begging father Abraham to instruct Lazarus to dip the tip of his finger into water and cool his[Richman's] tongue, means they will be looking forward to debating,arguing or publicly criticizing the REAL believers all in a bid to be having something to do with REAL Christians!
Now i'm getting the real meaning of that illustration! They're just like having to do with Jehovah's Witnesses to remain relevant before God[father Abraham]and nothing more! It gives them some sort of relieve from their tormented conditions or state of mind,as they can SEE that there is practically nothing for them and they're noticing all the achievements of TRUE Christianity found in JWs organization that's missing in all their religious groups put together!
Jehovah's Witnesses, Thank you!

Barristter07:


A spirit being life isn't depended on Blood, they don't become human . they appear bodily






Okay listen



materialize - /məˈtɪərɪəlʌɪz/
verb
1. become actual fact; happen.
2. (of a ghost, spirit, or similar entity) appear in bodily form.

Appear NOT Become .

If they become humans , Angels of Noah's day won't have born giants or Nephilims, aren't they humans, They should have given birth to normal men like human?


Sense is above you.



Where is your thinking faculty ? Did Thomas touch blood! ?

He said touch the WOUNDS . showing its healed.

Wound definition :


1. an injury to living tissue caused by a cut, blow, or other impact, typically one in which the skin is cut or broken.

Cut or broken indicates presence of blood in a human body.




Why this statement if they were ignorant like you to believe what they saw is what Jesus looked like ?

You are really an illiterate. How come touching a wound signifies that the wound has healed. You people will go to any length including lying and peddling false statement to justify your non biblical assumptions as being true.

You were the person who said Jesus Christ should have had blood from the wound assuming he was human. And another person called you out on your ignorance.

Appear:

1. come into sight; become visible or noticeable, especially without apparent cause.
"smoke appeared on the horizon"
synonyms: become visible, come into view, come into sight, materialize, take shape; informalpop up, bob up
"a cloud of dust appeared on the horizon"
be revealed, be seen, emerge, manifest itself, become apparent, become evident, surface, come to light, arise, crop up, occur, develop, enter into the picture


2. seem; give the impression of being.
"she appeared not to know what was happening"
synonyms: seem, look, give the impression of being, have the appearance/air of being, come across as being, look as though one is, look to be, strike someone as

Barristter07:


Buhahaha Damage control

Eeyah, you forgot you respond to a post that says I guess souls are trapped in the Sea. Your response was a reply for what you think happened to those souls in the sea .

Okay , what happened to the souls of people that DIED in the SEA ?

Cc: jozzy4

He never reply o

Hairyrapunzel:


You are really an illiterate. How come touching a wound signifies that the wound has healed. You people will go to any length including lying and peddling false statement to justify your non biblical assumptions as being true.

You were the person who said Jesus Christ should have had blood from the wound assuming he was human. And another person called you out on your ignorance.

Appear:

1. come into sight; become visible or noticeable, especially without apparent cause.
"smoke appeared on the horizon"
synonyms: become visible, come into view, come into sight, materialize, take shape; informalpop up, bob up
"a cloud of dust appeared on the horizon"
be revealed, be seen, emerge, manifest itself, become apparent, become evident, surface, come to light, arise, crop up, occur, develop, enter into the picture


2. seem; give the impression of being.
"she appeared not to know what was happening"
synonyms: seem, look, give the impression of being, have the appearance/air of being, come across as being, look as though one is, look to be, strike someone as

Barristter07 , Really like the way you treat this guy like a nobody . that's a typo , check his post again. Someone who say its healed wont went ahead to quote a dictionary that says it's broken skin .

Barristter07:


A spirit being life isn't depended on Blood, they don't become human . they appear bodily






Okay listen



materialize - /məˈtɪərɪəlʌɪz/
verb
1. become actual fact; happen.
2. (of a ghost, spirit, or similar entity) appear in bodily form.

Appear NOT Become .

If they become humans , Angels of Noah's day won't have born giants or Nephilims, aren't they humans, They should have given birth to normal men like human?


Sense is above you.

They are humans o, just gave birth to nephilims by mistake .

Where is your thinking faculty ? Did Thomas touch blood! ?

He said touch the WOUNDS . showing its a broken skin , deep cut.

Wound definition :


1. an injury to living tissue caused by a cut, blow, or other impact, typically one in which the skin is cut or broken.

Cut or broken indicates presence of blood in a human skin.

When a wound is dressed, blood doesn't come out ?

A wound doesn't bleed blood when dressed its water that comes from it.

They would have become like Him to See. Read

Why this statement if they were ignorant like you to believe what they saw is what Jesus looked like ?

Jozzy4:


Barristter07 , Really like the way you treat this guy like a nobody . that's a typo , check his post again. Someone who say its healed wont went ahead to quote a dictionary that says it's broken skin .

Your illiterate colleague said jesus asking Thomas to touch the wound means the wound was healed as Jesus is not flesh and blood.

Then your illiterate colleague doesn't even know the meaning of appear.

Illiteracy is a disease
Last last paradise earth and Armageddon na work of fiction. It will only remain inside your head.

I don't expect him to reply me cos he is programmed and brainwashed not to reply me. At least others are reading it. You even read it and reacted. He is seeing it and reading it so are others.

Shepherd00:

Treat that scripture sir. Does Spirits have bones?

U sef dey read Bible your eyes but your brain understands nothing !
Jesus was flesh and bones when he appeared to his disciples (Luke24:39)

In Luke 24:13-29 ,Jesus appeared to them on the road from Emmaus to Jerusalem, for 7 miles from Emmaus to Jerusalem he traveled with them& stayed with them.
Yet none of his disciples recognized him during their trip . He had no wounds ,nail marks etc.
** why did Jesus disciples not recognized him ?
Mr Shepard use your brain !!

** Luke 24:30 "Jesus took bread gave thanks and began to give it to them.
.**NOTE**
Jesus ate nothing , says Luke's gospel account

v31".then their eyes were opened and they recognized him and he disappeared from their sight"

It is crystal clear that Jesus was raised a spirit.
v31 "he disappeared from their sight" after they recognized him.
Your brain should tell you that Jesus was a spirit ,he made himself visible to them simply to convince them that he had been raised up.
v36.he reappeared to them. v37.they were frightened thinking they saw a spirit
v38.,why are you troubled and doubtful?
v39.it is I myself....
In other words
. I have appeared in a body you can recognize.

Maximus69:
I learnt something in the book 'Greatest man who ever lived'. @ Luke 16:24 it was interpreted that the Richman class would be begging father Abraham to instruct Lazarus to dip the tip of his finger into water and cool his[Richman's] tongue, means they will be looking forward to debating,arguing or publicly criticizing the REAL believers all in a bid to be having something to do with REAL Christians!
Now i'm getting the real meaning of that illustration! They're just like having to do with Jehovah's Witnesses to remain relevant before God[father Abraham]and nothing more! It gives them some sort of relieve from their tormented conditions or state of mind,as they can SEE that there is practically nothing for them and they're noticing all the achievements of TRUE Christianity found in JWs organization that's missing in all their religious groups put together!
Jehovah's Witnesses, Thank you!

The GB did a great work on that illustration. When i first studied that book,it wasn't easy for me to believe until i started noticing the reality!
Those so called born agains and pastors in my neighbourhood back then who never came close to say a word to me,started approaching me,telling me to discontinue my study with JWs.
*I asked one of them ~"aren't you glad that i'm becoming a Christian?"
*he said ~"but that place is worse than where you are before". Then most of them will like to engage me in biblical debates and sometimes fierce arguments, when i told my Bible study conductor then,
*he told me ~"they like engaging JWs in arguments"
*i said ~"but i'm still a learner"
*he said ~"that's how they always feel when they sight a JW,they just feel like engaging us in talks but after they've noticed that we've got more convincing points,they'll tell others to avoid us"
Truly Maximus,you can't fully grasp the meaning of that illustration if you've not studied the Bible and start making changes with JWs! You'll SEE it so brightly when you do!

Hairyrapunzel:


Your illiterate colleague said jesus asking Thomas to touch the wound means the wound was healed as Jesus is not flesh and blood.

Then your illiterate colleague doesn't even know the meaning of appear.

Illiteracy is a disease
Last last paradise earth and Armageddon na work of fiction. It will only remain inside your head.

I don't expect him to reply me cos he is programmed and brainwashed not to reply me. At least others are reading it . You even read it and reacted . He is seeing it and reading it so are others.

I reacted because you sound silly . am sure others can see too, in fact I now see why he treats u like the silly person you are . that was classic of him .

TATIME:
The GB did a great work on that illustration. When i first studied that book,it wasn't easy for me to believe until i started noticing the reality!
Those so called born agains and pastors in my neighbourhood back then who never came close to say a word to me,started approaching me,telling me to discontinue my study with JWs.
*I asked one of them ~"aren't you glad that i'm becoming a Christian?"
*he said ~"but that place is worse than where you are before". Then most of them will like to engage me in biblical debates and sometimes fierce arguments, when i told my Bible study conductor then,
*he told me ~"they like engaging JWs in arguments"
*i said ~"but i'm still a learner"
*he said ~"that's how they always feel when they sight a JW,they just feel like engaging us in talks but after they've noticed that we've got more convincing points,they'll tell others to avoid us"
Truly Maximus,you can't fully grasp the meaning of that illustration if you've not studied the Bible and start making changes with JWs! You'll SEE it so brightly when you do!

Hmmm thank you Sir!

Janosky:

U sef dey read Bible your eyes but your brain understands nothing !
Jesus was flesh and bones when he appeared to his disciples (Luke24:39)

Let me ask you the question the Lord asked Thomas. Does spirits have flesh and bones?

Luke 24:39 Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.
What does the bolded say clearly?

Janosky:


In Luke 24:13-29 ,Jesus appeared to them on the road from Emmaus to Jerusalem, for 7 miles from Emmaus to Jerusalem he traveled with them& stayed with them Yet none of his disciples recognized him during their trip . He had no wounds ,nail marks etc.
** why did Jesus disciples not recognized him ?
Mr Shepard use your brain !!
.

You are hoping you can upset me right? You failed.

Luke 24:31 [/quote]
And their eyes were opened, and they knew him; and he vanished out of their sight.
Has it occurred to you that Jesus veils the eyes of those He wishes even while he was alive?

Do you remember Him walking right through the Pharisees who wanted to stone him?

Janosky:

Luke 24:30 "Jesus took bread gave thanks and began to give it to them.
.**NOTE**
Jesus ate nothing , says Luke's gospel account

In other words Jesus never ate food after resurrection? Really? Okay here it is.
John 21:5 Then Jesus saith unto them, Children, have ye any meat? They answered him, No.

John 21:5, 10 Then Jesus saith unto them, Children, have ye any meat? They answered him, No.
Jesus saith unto them, Bring of the fish which ye have now caught.

John 21:5, 10, 12 Then Jesus saith unto them, Children, have ye any meat? They answered him, No.
Jesus saith unto them, Bring of the fish which ye have now caught.

Jesus saith unto them, Come and dine. And none of the disciples durst ask him, Who art thou? knowing that it was the Lord.

Jesus ate and drank with His disciples, try as you may, the scriptures are here.

Janosky:

v31".then their eyes were opened and they recognized him and he disappeared from their sight"

What veiled their eyes before?

Janosky:

It is crystal clear that Jesus was raised a spirit.
v31 "he disappeared from their sight" after they recognized him.

How come he could be touched? Do you know Jesus is fully human in Heaven right now? Yes, He is the only Supernatural being who is human, but a glorified body.

Janosky:

Your brain should tell you that Jesus was a spirit ,he made himself visible to them simply to convince them that he had been raised up.
v36.he reappeared to them. v37.they were frightened thinking they saw a spirit
v38.,why are you troubled and doubtful?
v39.it is I myself....
In other words
. I have appeared in a body you can recognize.

Lolzzzzz. You sound like a broken record, who said Jesus was a Spirit? He was a Spirit even before He was billed. Stop acting like you know when you didn't.

Barristter07:


When a Spirit materialize, it has bones ... That's why an Angel could combat with Jacob.

This shows that Jesse was Jehovah manifested.

Barristter07:


No one is dodging anything. He Materialized, he was ' put to death IN FLESH, Made ALIVE IN SPIRIT ' . he wasn't made alive in Flesh ( 1 Pet 3:18 )

He didn't ressurect with flesh and bones, the same account said , He went ahead to EAT

Mr, you once agreed he will visit the TOILET after that, didn't you ? You just declared him a mortal who need to defecate to stay alive

Na how una dey take understand Bible and?

He did not resurrect with flesh and bones yet He told Mary not to touch Him? Na weytin Mary be want touch, Spirit?

He went ahead to eat Spirit's food or human's food?

Again, do you have a problem with Jesus pooping?

Maximus69:
I am not a doctor Sir, just a student of the Bible that's ready to observe all those claiming Christians and those criticizing FACTS. So if you aren't competent enough to explain why Jesus became unrecognisable after his resurrection,then the JWs got it right!
Jesus became a spirit person after his resurrection, every other event happened to convince Thomas who's understanding by then can't grasp the whole issue.
Why did you think Paul wrote that letter and included those explanations? Of course God's holy spirit guided this fast learner to help many of them grasp what Jesus taught them later.
People like you would have castigated Paul for rebuking Peter publicly,you would be saying he has no right to correct Peter who spent almost all his life as a relation and disciple of Jesus. Yet Peter became truly confused in a case involving Jewish and Gentile Christians, why?
Jesus taught them that he came for the lost sheep of the house of Israel,and Jesus never eat with a Gentile so how will Peter treat all that now that God's holy spirit have counted gentiles as part of the Christian family?
Jehovah's Witnesses have made themselves clear that Jesus did so many things while teaching his followers but not all could be fully grasped until much later. John 16:12
Spirits don't have bones,but how will Thomas be convinced that this person is his master that was killed since he has vowed never to believe until he SEE somethings? Hmmm Jesus must do something to help this faithful and loyal friend to fully understand that he is now alive,so Paul was given the wisdom to explain that what they all saw wasn't the same body but a spirit person! 1Corinthians 15:42-44 God bless you Sir.

Lolzzzzz. The one with the Watch Tower blinders is calling me incompetent. Funny.


Pls tell me which food Jesus ate. Angel's food or human's?

Jozzy4:


I reacted because you sound silly . am sure others can see too, in fact I now see why he treats u like the silly person you are . that was classic of him .

See someone calling another person silly. Your colleague that said jesus Christ saying Thomas should touch wound means wound is already nko? Lol

You that believe 8 old men who lead watchtower company are the only channel of communication between God and man today because the 8 old men said so nko?

You that believe your jehovah will slaughter/murder/destroy 8 billion non jws so that 8 million jws can inherit these people properties and live forever on earth nko?


You have silly written all over you. You are a Robot and zombie mixed together.
You and Your colleague that want to assume what's not in the Bible so as to justify watchtower doctrine are the silly ones here cos you sound silly.

Your colleague has been telling us of how jesus would have gone to toilet after eating with his disciples following resurrection when bible didn't mention anything about toilet. Trying to force what's not written in the Bible down our throats because he this we a silly or stupid like you guys. Lol

Shepherd00:

Na how una dey take understand Bible and?

He did not resurrect with flesh and bones yet He told Mary not to touch Him? Na weytin Mary be want touch, Spirit?

He went ahead to eat Spirit's food or human's food?

Again, do you have a problem with Jesus pooping?

He is preoccupied with jesus Christ going to toilet and also with spirits having sex organs.

He wants to force down the watctower narrative of Jesus spirit using multiple human bodies to appear to his disciples after resurrection.

He will soon quote Matthew for you or tell you an angel wrestled with Jacob so jesus is not human. He will never answer if its human food jesus ate.

Or he will quote anthropomorphism or encyclopedia.

Shepherd00:

Lolzzzzz. The one with the Watch Tower blinders is calling me incompetent. Funny.


Pls tell me which food Jesus ate. Angel's food or human's?

Ha Pastor! It must be combination or collaboration o!
I think the akpu comes from angels but the soup was prepared by humans! Remember it was soup with assorted that Abraham also prepared for those angels! Genesis 18:6-8
So i got it right,humans prepared the soup but angels prepared the hard stuff just as one gave Elijah! 1King 19:5-7 But because it's Jesus they can't just give him ordinary Agege bread without soup so his followers preapare a catfish pepper soup

Barristter07:
A spirit being life isn't depended on Blood, they don't become human . they appear bodily

Your confusion knows no bound...

Who says a spirit being LIFE depends on BLOOD before

My point is, for a spirit being to MATERIALIZE it means THE SPIRIT BECOME FULLY HUMAN at that very moment, that's why they can do what normal human can do i.e eat, drink. These are functions ONLY known FULL EARTHLY being performed, if not applying the word MATERIALIZE to them is useless.

Okay listen



materialize - /məˈtɪərɪəlʌɪz/
verb
1. become actual fact; happen.
2. (of a ghost, spirit, or similar entity) appear in bodily form.

Appear NOT Become .

See how you're disgracing yourself with simple English...

bodily adjective
bodi·​ly | \ ˈbä-də-lē \
Definition of bodily (Entry 1 of 2)
: having a body : PHYSICAL 1 : of or relating to the body
// bodily comfort
// bodily organs 2

bodily adverb
Definition of bodily (Entry 2 of 2)
: in the flesh
: in a manner that involves physically moving someone's body

You neglected the BODILY PART but hold on to only APPEAR, whereas to appear simply signifies THE PRESENCE of that spirit.

Lastly, a spirit can't MATERIALIZE without having complete human body.

If they become humans , Angels of Noah's day won't have born giants or Nephilims, aren't they humans, They should have given birth to normal men like human?


Sense is above you.

So to you the Nephilims are NOT ACTUALLY HUMAN.

Well this is what your lying organization has to say "The Nephilim were giants, the violent superhuman offspring produced when wicked angels mated with human women in the days of Noah."

Who is lying between you and your organization?

Even from that article, your organization lies that the Nephilims were destroyed/wiped out during the global flood leaving no more Nephilim, whereas, in Number 13:31-33 Nephilims were saw in the land where the Israelites spy visited.

Below is the screenshot of the article....

Is it Materialized angels that gave birth to them too?


When I say you people lack scriptural knowledge, I have my reasons.

Where is your thinking faculty ? Did Thomas touch blood! ?

He said touch the WOUNDS . showing its a broken skin , deep cut.

Wound definition :


1. an injury to living tissue caused by a cut, blow, or other impact, typically one in which the skin is cut or broken.

Cut or broken indicates presence of blood in a human skin.

When a wound is dressed, blood doesn't come out?

Where in the scripture was stated that Thomas finally touched Christ?

Also, you're among the people Atheists see to abuse Christianity as people who don't use their brain.

Jesus has died for 3days, where have you seen a dead body even over ten hours not to talk of a whole 3days bleeding before

I must save this post...i said it awake and watchtower have blocked your brain.

"They would have become like Him to See." Read

Why this statement if they were ignorant like you to believe what they saw is what Jesus looked like?

Please, try to hide your face in shame!

How can you openly lie and twist scripture like this

Does that verse say "THEY WOULD HAVE BECOME LIKE HIM to see Him Oh my God!

You people don't have a single shame...how can you blatantly lie against scripture just to suit your selfish self?

I challenge you to show everyone here the scripture where is was written that "THEY WOULD HAVE BECOME LIKE HIM TO SEE"

Dear friends, now we are children of God, and what we will be has not yet been made known. But we know that when Christ appears, we shall be like him, for we shall see him as he is. NIV

Beloved, we are [even here and] now children of God, and it is not yet made clear what we will be [after His coming]. We know that when He comes and is revealed, we will [as His children] be like Him, because we will see Him just as He is [in all His glory]. AMP

Beloved ones, we are now children of God, but it has not yet been made manifest what we will be.
We do know that when he is made manifest we will be like him, because we will see him just as he is. NWT

No doubt from these versions that it's until Christ appears that Children of God will see Him for who He is and be like Him.

Another false doctrine of your organization to be exposed from this verse is that the address is for ALL CHILDREN OF God...yet your organization claimed Christ has come in 1914. How many people see Him when Christ appears in 1914?

Emusan:


Your confusion knows no bound...

Who says a spirit being LIFE depends on BLOOD before

My point is, for a spirit being to MATERIALIZE it means THE SPIRIT BECOME FULLY HUMAN at that very moment, that's why they can do what normal human can do i.e eat, drink. These are functions ONLY known FULL EARTHLY being performed, if not applying the word MATERIALIZE to them is useless.



See how you're disgracing yourself with simple English...

bodily adjective
bodi·​ly | \ ˈbä-də-lē \
Definition of bodily (Entry 1 of 2)
: having a body : PHYSICAL 1 : of or relating to the body
// bodily comfort
// bodily organs 2

bodily adverb
Definition of bodily (Entry 2 of 2)
: in the flesh
: in a manner that involves physically moving someone's body

You neglected the BODILY PART but hold on to only APPEAR, whereas to appear simply signifies THE PRESENCE of that spirit.

Lastly, a spirit can't MATERIALIZE without having complete human body.



So to you the Nephilims are NOT ACTUALLY HUMAN.

Well this is what your lying organization has to say "The Nephilim were giants, the violent superhuman offspring produced when wicked angels mated with human women in the days of Noah."

Who is lying between you and your organization?

Even from that article, your organization lies that the Nephilims were destroyed/wiped out during the global flood leaving no more Nephilim, whereas, in Number 13:31-33 Nephilims were saw in the land where the Israelites spy visited.

Below is the screenshot of the article....

Is it Materialized angels that gave birth to them too?


When I say you people lack scriptural knowledge, I have my reasons.



Where in the scripture was stated that Thomas finally touched Christ?

Also, you're among the people Atheists see to abuse Christianity as people who don't use their brain.

Jesus has died for 3days, where have you seen a dead body even over ten hours not to talk of a whole 3days bleeding before

I must save this post...i said it awake and watchtower have blocked your brain.



Please, try to hide your face in shame!

How can you openly lie and twist scripture like this

Does that verse say "THEY WOULD HAVE BECOME LIKE HIM to see Him Oh my God!

You people don't have a single shame...how can you blatantly lie against scripture just to suit your selfish self?

I challenge you to show everyone here the scripture where is was written that "THEY WOULD HAVE BECOME LIKE HIM TO SEE"

Dear friends, now we are children of God, and what we will be has not yet been made known. But we know that when Christ appears, we shall be like him, for we shall see him as he is. NIV

Beloved, we are [even here and] now children of God, and it is not yet made clear what we will be [after His coming]. We know that when He comes and is revealed, we will [as His children] be like Him, because we will see Him just as He is [in all His glory]. AMP

Beloved ones, we are now children of God, but it has not yet been made manifest what we will be.
We do know that when he is made manifest we will be like him, because we will see him just as he is. NWT

No doubt from these versions that it's until Christ appears that Children of God will see Him for who He is and be like Him.

Another false doctrine of your organization to be exposed from this verse is that the address is for ALL CHILDREN OF God...yet your organization claimed Christ has come in 1914. How many people see Him when Christ appears in 1914?

All of these just to make those responding to you cover their eyes in shame?
Wahala dey o!
Firstly the angels in Noah's day mated with real people so if anything is going to come out of such ABNORNAL sexual relation,it couldn't have been normal children!
Secondly if it is still the same body three days later the holes will remain obvious to everyone including those whom ate with Jesus!
Thirdly the born again Christians would finally receive their own spiritual bodies and SEE Jesus[who is also now a spirit] once again,but that doesn't implies PHYSICAL sight rather it's SPIRITUAL! Have someone ever explain something to you and you exclaim 'I SEE'? Does that implies that you must SEE something physical or material?
Lastly Jesus' return in 1914 affected everyone as Satan's presence was felt on earth by world war1 when Jesus was given the authority to begin ruling but only his followers could grasp or SEE that it's the presence of Jesus in power! Matthew 24:3-14 When he first came to the earth,what most people saw was a Carpenter,son of a Carpenter,born by Mary,have brothers and sisters. But it was only few Jews who REALISED,GRASPED or SEE with their mind's eyes that this is the promised Messiah! So he promised to return the same way he left,meaning only faithful people will NOTICE it just as only 500 people noticed that the saviour of the world was departing to heaven! 1Corinthians 15:6
Sir you're not making any reasonable point,but since it's going to make you feel happy if JWs should cover their faces in shame,let me first cover mine at least to please you!

Maximus69:
All of these just to make those responding to you cover their eyes in shame?
Wahala dey o!
Firstly the angels in Noah's day mated with real people so if anything is going to come out of such ABNORNAL sexual relation,it couldn't have been normal children!
Secondly if it is still the same body three days later the holes will remain obvious to everyone including those whom ate with Jesus!
Thirdly the born again Christians would finally receive their own spiritual bodies and SEE Jesus[who is also now a spirit] once again,but that doesn't implies PHYSICAL sight rather it's SPIRITUAL! Have someone ever explain something to you and you exclaim 'I SEE'? Does that implies that you must SEE something physical or material?
Lastly Jesus' return in 1914 affected everyone as Satan's presence was felt on earth by world war1 when Jesus was given the authority to begin ruling but only his followers could grasp or SEE that it's the presence of Jesus in power! Matthew 24:3-14 When he first came to the earth,what most people saw was a Carpenter,son of a Carpenter,born by Mary,have brothers and sisters. But it was only few Jews who REALISED,GRASPED or SEE with their mind's eyes that this is the promised Messiah! So he promised to return the same way he left,meaning only faithful people will NOTICE it just as only 500 people noticed that the saviour of the world was departing to heaven! 1Corinthians 15:6
Sir you're not making any reasonable point,but since it's going to make you feel happy if JWs should cover their faces in shame,let me first cover mine at least to please you!

Bible passage to show that Jesus Christ came invisibly in 1914. I wonder how jws saw jesus Christ come when according to them he came invisibly to earth that year.


See the kind of rubbish assumption you guys believe? Illiterates will tell you lies and you guys will agree. Lol

Hairyrapunzel:


Bible passage to show that Jesus Christ came invisibly in 1914. I wonder how jws saw jesus Christ come when according to them he came invisibly to earth that year.


See the kind of rubbish assumption you guys believe? Illiterates will tell you lies and you guys will agree. Lol

PEACE Mr Hairyrapunzel, may you have TRUE Peace Sir!

Maximus69:
Ha Pastor! It must be combination or collaboration o!
I think the akpu comes from angels but the soup was prepared by humans! Remember it was soup with assorted that Abraham also prepared for those angels! Genesis 18:6-8
So i got it right,humans prepared the soup but angels prepared the hard stuff just as one gave Elijah! 1King 19:5-7 But because it's Jesus they can't just give him ordinary Agege bread without soup so his followers preapare a catfish pepper soup

You stand here bold faced and called Jesus a lair right.

Jesus said to Thomas, Touch me and see, it is me, I am not a Spirit for spirits have no flesh and bones, but your watchtower called him a lair.

Clap for ya sef

Hairyrapunzel:


He is preoccupied with jesus Christ going to toilet and also with spirits having sex organs.

He wants to force down the watctower narrative of Jesus spirit using multiple human bodies to appear to his disciples after resurrection.

He will soon quote Matthew for you or tell you an angel wrestled with Jacob so jesus is not human. He will never answer if its human food jesus ate.

Or he will quote anthropomorphism or encyclopedia.

These.people are worst than atheists. So apathetic.

Emusan:


Your confusion knows no bound...

Who says a spirit being LIFE depends on BLOOD before

My point is, for a spirit being to MATERIALIZE it means THE SPIRIT BECOME FULLY HUMAN at that very moment, that's why they can do what normal human can do i.e eat, drink. These are functions ONLY known FULL EARTHLY being performed, if not applying the word MATERIALIZE to them is useless.

Barrister come and carry your friend o , Normal humans food got digested too, hopefully they also does same ?

He who said u don't have sense is not wrong

See how you're disgracing yourself with simple English...

bodily adjective
bodi·​ly | \ ˈbä-də-lē \
Definition of bodily (Entry 1 of 2)
: having a body : PHYSICAL 1 : of or relating to the body
// bodily comfort
// bodily organs 2

bodily adverb
Definition of bodily (Entry 2 of 2)
: in the flesh
: in a manner that involves physically moving someone's body

You neglected the BODILY PART but hold on to only APPEAR, whereas to appear simply signifies THE PRESENCE of that spirit.


Lastly, a spirit can't MATERIALIZE without having complete human body.



So to you the Nephilims are NOT ACTUALLY HUMAN.

Well this is what your lying organization has to say "The Nephilim were giants, the violent superhuman offspring produced when wicked angels mated with human women in the days of Noah."

Who is lying between you and your organization?

Even from that article, your organization lies that the Nephilims were destroyed/wiped out during the global flood leaving no more Nephilim, whereas, in Number 13:31-33 Nephilims were saw in the land where the Israelites spy visited.

Below is the screenshot of the article....

Is it Materialized angels that gave birth to them too?


When I say you people lack scriptural knowledge, I have my reasons.

Numbers 13 :31 was a bad report . See where falsehood has led you ?

The angels are humans , yet breed Giants . why ?

Where in the scripture was stated that Thomas finally touched Christ?

Also, you're among the people Atheists see to abuse Christianity as people who don't use their brain.

Jesus has died for 3days, where have you seen a dead body even over ten hours not to talk of a whole 3days bleeding before

I must save this post...i said it awake and watchtower have blocked your brain.



Please, try to hide your face in shame!

He is alive . we are not talking of dead body. Barrister lol, come see film ,

He has wound, yes or no ? Is he alive ?

How can you openly lie and twist scripture like this

Does that verse say "THEY WOULD HAVE BECOME LIKE HIM to see Him Oh my God!

You people don't have a single shame...how can you blatantly lie against scripture just to suit your selfish self?

I challenge you to show everyone here the scripture where is was written that "THEY WOULD HAVE BECOME LIKE HIM TO SEE"

Dear friends, now we are children of God, and what we will be has not yet been made known. But we know that when Christ appears, we shall be like him, for we shall see him as he is. NIV

Beloved, we are [even here and] now children of God, and it is not yet made clear what we will be [after His coming]. We know that when He comes and is revealed, we will [as His children] be like Him, because we will see Him just as He is [in all His glory]. AMP

Beloved ones, we are now children of God, but it has not yet been made manifest what we will be.
We do know that when he is made manifest we will be like him, because we will see him just as he is. NWT

No doubt from these versions that it's until Christ appears that Children of God will see Him for who He is and be like Him.

Another false doctrine of your organization to be exposed from this verse is that the address is for ALL CHILDREN OF God...yet your organization claimed Christ has come in 1914. How many people see Him when Christ appears in 1914?

Produce where they said so ? Since you don't know the difference between Christ presence and his coming.

Face matter , How come John talk sey he never know how Christ looked like despite the human appearance they saw ?

Shepherd00:

You stand here bold faced and called Jesus a lair right.

Jesus said to Thomas, Touch me and see, it is me, I am not a Spirit for spirits have no flesh and bones, but your watchtower called him a lair.

Clap for ya sef

Na your headache Sir!
Jesus taught his followers many things and said they can't grasp all but the holy spirit will remind them and teach them they remaining. So if you think i'm saying Jesus lied,then it's not your case but mine with Jesus.
How far about that?

Maximus69:
All of these just to make those responding to you cover their eyes in shame?

If you have shame you can't confidently misrepresent scripture and still be bold to talk

Firstly the angels in Noah's day mated with real people so if anything is going to come out of such ABNORNAL sexual relation,it couldn't have been normal children!

Who asked you whether it will be normal children
The question is ARE THEY HUMAN?

Which I quoted your own lie organization that says they're SUPERHUMAN...you see the reason why I said you people lack capacity to debate online because you always address different issue leaving the main one.

Besides, if angels should have sexual intercourse with real human, shouldn't your empty skull tells you that they must have BECOME REAL HUMAN too before something like could happen

Secondly if it is still the same body three days later the holes will remain obvious to everyone including those whom ate with Jesus!

Please, go back to primary school that's where your mates are.

Will the wounds on the body still be bleeding blood after 3days of heart not working? Why are you people so daft like this...

This is the medical fallacy your brother portrayed as truth which I'm calling his attention to.

Thirdly the born again Christians would finally receive their own spiritual bodies and SEE Jesus[who is also now a spirit] once again,but that doesn't implies PHYSICAL sight rather it's SPIRITUAL! Have someone ever explain something to you and you exclaim 'I SEE'? Does that implies that you must SEE something physical or material?

Using wrong lenses of watchtower and awake to interpret the scripture

For once, why can't you people just acknowledge the scripture Why must you twist everything to suit your lie doctrines

It's your lie brother who quoted that verse wrongly but see how you're fighting tooth and nail to make it seems right...

The verse is very self explanatory, now you twisted it to mean SPIRITUAL sighting yet trying to use a physical event of World War I to justify it.

Isn't that delusion?

Lastly Jesus' return in 1914 affected everyone as Satan's presence was felt on earth by world war1 when Jesus was given the authority to begin ruling but only his followers could grasp or SEE that it's the presence of Jesus in power! Matthew 24:3-14 When he first came to the earth,what most people saw was a Carpenter,son of a Carpenter,born by Mary,have brothers and sisters. But it was only few Jews who REALISED,GRASPED or SEE with their mind's eyes that this is the promised Messiah! So he promised to return the same way he left,meaning only faithful people will NOTICE it just as only 500 people noticed that the saviour of the world was departing to heaven! 1Corinthians 15:6
Sir you're not making any reasonable point,but since it's going to make you feel happy if JWs should cover their faces in shame,let me first cover mine at least to please you!

So Jesus also returned in the year World War II was forth right

Jozzy4:
Barrister come and carry your friend o , Normal humans food got digested too, hopefully they also does same ?

No they won't, it will digest in your stomach.

He who said u don't have sense is not wrong

And he who says watchtower and awake have blocked your sense of reasoning is perfectly right.

Numbers 13 :31 was a bad report . See where falsehood has led you ?

Imagine, so you want to deny that they never saw Nephilims...

Can you see how far you can go to defend falsehood, your organization gaffed instead for you to accept, you want to shift the blame on BAD REPORT...

The angels are humans , yet breed Giants . why?

If you have a single iota of sense, you'll have asked, are the giants HUMAN or not

Which angel responsible for the Nephilim recorded in Number 13:31

He is alive . we are not talking of dead body. Barrister lol, come see film ,

Can a body that died for 3days still have bleeding of blood, that is the question....oponu!

He has wound, yes or no ? Is he alive ?

If you sustained wound 3days ago, does that mean you're still bleeding on the wound for 3days? Olodo....

Produce where they said so ? Since you don't know the difference between Christ presence and his coming.

Face matter , How come John talk sey he never know how Christ looked like despite the human appearance they saw ?

I've been advising you people to enroll in Bible study by forgetting watchtower and awake lies...

Did John say he didn't know what Jesus looks like or what the believers will be like?

See it for yourself and see the level GB has damaged your spiritual knowledge up to

"Beloved ones, we are now children of God, but it has not yet been made manifest what we will be..."

ehhhh but the same Jesus transfigured in the presence of John and other...can you see you're the one lying on behalf of John and not what John knows and believes.

Emusan:


If you have shame you can't confidently misrepresent scripture and still be bold to talk



Who asked you whether it will be normal children
The question is ARE THEY HUMAN?

Which I quoted your own lie organization that says they're SUPERHUMAN...you see the reason why I said you people lack capacity to debate online because you always address different issue leaving the main one.

Besides, if angels should have sexual intercourse with real human, shouldn't your empty skull tells you that they must have BECOME REAL HUMAN too before something like could happen



Please, go back to primary school that's where your mates are.

Will the wounds on the body still be bleeding blood after 3days of heart not working? Why are you people so daft like this...

This is the medical fallacy your brother portrayed as truth which I'm calling his attention to.



Using wrong lenses of watchtower and awake to interpret the scripture

For once, why can't you people just acknowledge the scripture Why must you twist everything to suit your lie doctrines

It's your lie brother who quoted that verse wrongly but see how you're fighting tooth and nail to make it seems right...

The verse is very self explanatory, now you twisted it to mean SPIRITUAL sighting yet trying to use a physical event of World War I to justify it.

Isn't that delusion?





So Jesus also returned in the year World War II was forth right

If you don't agree with all of these,nobody is forcing you to. You can as well go out there and publish your own understanding of what was written Sir. There is FREEDOM of speech,expression and worship Sir,so suit yourself.
As for myself and over 8,000,000 individuals from across the globe,we're unitedly following those teaching us these things as a family. So your fierce criticism,hatred and agitation can't stop us Sir!

Emusan:


Your confusion knows no bound...

Who says a spirit being LIFE depends on BLOOD before

My point is, for a spirit being to MATERIALIZE it means THE SPIRIT BECOME FULLY HUMAN at that very moment, that's why they can do what normal human can do i.e eat, drink . These are functions ONLY known FULL EARTHLY being performed, if not applying the word MATERIALIZE to them is useless.

Ability to do what humans do,, do not make them Humans .

Humans are sharers of Flesh and BLOOD , and Materializing cannot produce this Human form , this is why even Christ had to be born human or else no blood to shed

Heb 2:14 comments " Therefore, since the young children are sharers of BLOOD and flesh, he also similarly SHARED in the same things, ,"

How did he share in this ? By birth as human. Galatians. 4:4

Materialized Angels are not Sharers of Blood and flesh.

See how you're disgracing yourself with simple English...

bodily adjective
bodi·​ly | \ ˈbä-də-lē \
Definition of bodily (Entry 1 of 2)
: having a body : PHYSICAL 1 : of or relating to the body
// bodily comfort
// bodily organs 2

bodily adverb
Definition of bodily (Entry 2 of 2)
: in the flesh
: in a manner that involves physically moving someone's body

You neglected the BODILY PART but hold on to only APPEAR, whereas to appear simply signifies THE PRESENCE of that spirit.

Lastly, a spirit can't MATERIALIZE without having complete human body.

Christ Jesus is the only spirit that came down from heaven, fully human - John 3:13. By his birth

So to you the Nephilims are NOT ACTUALLY HUMAN.

Well this is what your lying organization has to say "The Nephilim were giants, the violent superhuman offspring produced when wicked angels mated with human women in the days of Noah."

Who is lying between you and your organization?

Even from that article, your organization lies that the Nephilims were destroyed/wiped out during the global flood leaving no more Nephilim, whereas, in Number 13:31-33 Nephilims were saw in the land where the Israelites spy visited.

Below is the screenshot of the article....

Is it Materialized angels that gave birth to them too?


When I say you people lack scriptural knowledge, I have my reasons.

The article you quote says " Superhuman "

Don't bring a false report. Show me Joshua actually meeting Nephilims when they attacked Caaan ?

Where in the scripture was stated that Thomas finally touched Christ?

Also, you're among the people Atheists see to abuse Christianity as people who don't use their brain.

Jesus has died for 3days, where have you seen a dead body even over ten hours not to talk of a whole 3days bleeding before

I must save this post...i said it awake and watchtower have blocked your brain.

The discussion is not about " Dead Body " . but a Fully living one .

Jesus has wounds when he appeared to Thomas, Yes or no!!?? Wounds has blood ? Yes or no . Tell why Jesus body has no blood when humans are Flesh and Blood.

Maximus69:
If you don't agree with all of these,nobody is forcing you to. You can as well go out there and publish your own understanding of what was written Sir. There is FREEDOM of speech,expression and worship Sir,so suit yourself.
As for myself and over 8,000,000 individuals from across the globe,we're unitedly following those teaching us these things as a family. So your fierce criticism,hatred and agitation can't stop us Sir!

Be justifying living in your imaginary upcoming paradise. I heard your leader say he will be beside Jesus Christ killing all the wicked people.
Your leader Anthony morris looks like a blood thirsty human being.

I also heard your leaders preach that after their jehovah finishes the dirty work of murdering non jws then he will send vultures to eat the dead bodies. So last last it's your jehovah, gb members and vultures that will do the dirty work. Lol

Maximus69:
Na your headache Sir!
Jesus taught his followers many things and said they can't grasp all but the holy spirit will remind them and teach them they remaining. So if you think i'm saying Jesus lied,then it's not your case but mine with Jesus.
How far about that?

You mean Thomas could not grasp why the resurrected Jesus will have flesh and bones and eat human food?

Biko gawa.

Emusan:


No they won't, it will digest in your stomach.

Whatever enter the mouth of a human is digested and passed out of the body as Feaces. Matthew 15:17 has been quoted and requoted here, This Angel's are humans nah. Why don't they purge out the food from their body ?

Am sure even their cloths are sewed by an human. #spits on ignorance

And he who says watchtower and awake have blocked your sense of reasoning is perfectly right.



Imagine, so you want to deny that they never saw Nephilims...

Can you see how far you can go to defend falsehood, your organization gaffed instead for you to accept, you want to shift the blame on BAD REPORT...



If you have a single iota of sense, you'll have asked, are the giants HUMAN or not

Which angel responsible for the Nephilim recorded in Number 13:31

Emusan, peddler of falsehood. At least show where Israelites meet nephilims at Cannaan , is that hard ? Shior

Can a body that died for 3days still have bleeding of blood, that is the question....oponu!



If you sustained wound 3days ago, does that mean you're still bleeding on the wound for 3days? Olodo....

The tissues are still dead or what ? .

I've been advising you people to enroll in Bible study by forgetting watchtower and awake lies...

Did John say he didn't know what Jesus looks like or what the believers will be like?

See it for yourself and see the level GB has damaged your spiritual knowledge up to

"Beloved ones, we are now children of God, but it has not yet been made manifest what we will be..."

ehhhh but the same Jesus transfigured in the presence of John and other...can you see you're the one lying on behalf of John and not what John knows and believes.

Emusan, peddler of falsehood . he said they will be like him . and if A is going to be like B , but A isn't sure how he will be. It means he isn't sure how B looks like . since B is the pattern

Where did your brain go ?