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Re: Jehovah's Witnesses And The Resurrection Of Jesus by asalimpo(m): 9:52pm On Mar 19, 2019 |
Janosky:open another thread to argue about which manuscript is better. The textus receptus is very authentic and proven. So save ur criticism of it. Over 5000 scripts collected and diligently compared to derive the line of bibles based on it from which the kjv descends. IT IS UNFAULTABLE AND HIGHLY ACCURATE. Older doesnt mean better or more authentic. Like i said,save that for another thread. Kjv has it's issues but in terms of accuracy! It's matchless. Kjv is a word-for-word translation unlike other versions based on corrupted manuscripts. Jesus commending His spirit to God, and dying for sins , could not be received upto heaven,he had work to do. He became sin who knew no sin. He couldnt go to heaven as sin. Do a little thinking add the dots and you'll see how it connects. The bible says,you will not allow my soul remain in Hell (that's jesus) or your Holy One suffer corruption (His body wouldnt decay). So yes,He commended His spirit to God but He also knew that He had to become sin so that man could become the righteousness of God in Christ. He is our Substitute. So as sin not as a sinner,He went to hell. Fulfilling the prophecy by the psalmist. Three days later He arose from the dead. His body didnt decay or rot or vanish or vaporise. |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses And The Resurrection Of Jesus by Hairyrapunzel: 1:03am On Mar 20, 2019 |
Janosky: So you teach that Jesus Christ entered another humans body after resurrection? Lol |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses And The Resurrection Of Jesus by OLAADEGBU(m): 2:10am On Mar 20, 2019 |
asalimpo: Lets hope that he takes heed to your candid advice and make the necessary amends. Our elders say, "A scheduled battle does not claim the life of a (wise) cripple." |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses And The Resurrection Of Jesus by Barristter07: 9:57am On Mar 20, 2019 |
asalimpo: Guy, Lie is your breath. Am nor surprised . u still denied you said soul dies with the body despite LIVE evidence staring at you. Go and take your glasses, and read that picture again. The jargons you wrote up there wasn't what you said . here it is in black and white " THAT TELLS YOU THAT THE SOUL DIES WITH THE BODY " are souls trapped in the sea ? 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses And The Resurrection Of Jesus by Barristter07: 10:18am On Mar 20, 2019 |
OLAADEGBU: You are so indoctrinated that you can't defend your very own statement on John 2:19 . the post is still there , If you are like these, I pity those u tutor bible. The blind leading the blind 2 Likes |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses And The Resurrection Of Jesus by Emusan(m): 12:26pm On Mar 20, 2019 |
Barristter07: Just as you're unable to defend anything you post... Going by the Bold, when some angels appear to Abraham , The scripture address them as " MEN " Why would the scripture address them as MEn, when they are not men ? Did Scripture Lied ? Start showing your wack interpretation again, the account of Abraham is a narration and FIRST PERCEPTION of Abraham based on what he saw, why didn't Abraham address them as MEN when he finally knew the kind of person they were? This is different from Jesus who openly corrected the wrong notion of His disciples seeing Him as SPIRIT like how you see Him today? Or I can also ask you, why did Apostle Paul still address Jesus as MAN? Was he lying? Concerning that account from where you quote the statement , it continues : SMH....not only toilet...he will also poo in your mouth so that it can reset your brain... When Jehovah visited Abraham, is it Charles Russell's Toilet that He used or your house toilet Thinking a self acclaimed intelligent person can spew this thrash is one of the seven wonders of the JWs. Did Jesus not clarify He was not A SPIRIT in that verse That was the quotation! Attacking straw man as usual. |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses And The Resurrection Of Jesus by Emusan(m): 12:33pm On Mar 20, 2019 |
Hairyrapunzel: That's the lie they were taught in their hall NOTE: Not just BODY but BODIES meaning Jesus used more than one body to appear to His disciples... |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses And The Resurrection Of Jesus by Hairyrapunzel: 1:21pm On Mar 20, 2019 |
Emusan: I don't even know how they read their bible o. Well, they are told not to read their bible on their own. Their governing body does the reading of the bible for them and interprets it. Lol |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses And The Resurrection Of Jesus by Janosky: 2:10pm On Mar 20, 2019 |
Hairyrapunzel:That is what your kolo brain told you. U have ZERO proof that i ever said so. |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses And The Resurrection Of Jesus by MightySparrow: 2:31pm On Mar 20, 2019 |
Jesus appeared to the disciples after his ressurection, ate with them, and told thomas to touch him and the marks of nails and speare. He even said spirits do not have flesh and bones as he had after ressurection. I think the problem here is, 'spirit' and 'spiritual' for instance jesus told nicodemus, 'he that is born of flesh is flesh and of spirit is spirit'. Not spiritual. Spirits do not have material body but jesus showed up in a body different from a spirit's. So, his new body and those at ressurection of saints could be different from what we now know. |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses And The Resurrection Of Jesus by Hairyrapunzel: 3:05pm On Mar 20, 2019 |
Janosky: Did I say you have ever said it here? You can't say it here cos you are ashamed of your doctrine. You teach that Jesus used another humans body to appear to his disciples after resurrection. Come and beat me. Lol |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses And The Resurrection Of Jesus by Janosky: 3:09pm On Mar 20, 2019 |
Emusan: Emusan lying Pharisee wey no know him Bible (if he has one). Mary Magdalene saw Jesus impaled with cuts,nail marks on his body.(John19:25. Matt12:39,40) She was @the tomb sobbing and saw two angels (,one of them is the resurrected Jesus - John 20:11-14). She was the first person who the resurrected Jesus first appeared to (john20:14-16) and spoke with . v14: "she turned around and saw Jesus standing there but she did not know that it was Jesus" ** Questions for you Mr man ,why did Mary Magdalene not know Jesus voice / his materialized body? John20:14,19,26 did Mary Magdalene and Jesus apostles see the same body of the resurrected Jesus? |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses And The Resurrection Of Jesus by asalimpo(m): 4:22pm On Mar 20, 2019 |
Barristter07:dude,quote me in full not in bits. Or dont know rules of basic english grammer? |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses And The Resurrection Of Jesus by Barristter07: 4:31pm On Mar 20, 2019 |
asalimpo:I deliberately take a screenshot so you won't be able to change or modify it What do you mean by " THAT tells YOU " soul dies with body ?. Okay let me ask: Are souls trapped in the sea since those in the sea are not In hell ? 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses And The Resurrection Of Jesus by Hairyrapunzel: 4:35pm On Mar 20, 2019 |
Janosky: So the bible told you that since Mary Magdalene didn't recognize jesus that means he used someone else's body? Lol You want to give us your magazine assumption right? After saying you never said jesus used another humans body after resurrection you now want to defend your doctrine that states that Jesus used another humans body after resurrection. Lol |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses And The Resurrection Of Jesus by Hairyrapunzel: 4:38pm On Mar 20, 2019 |
Barristter07:Since the rich man was dead and in the grave unconscious how come he was able to feel agony in fire? You and your colleagues are yet to answer this question. You even said the story jesus Christ told was a figurative one. |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses And The Resurrection Of Jesus by Barristter07: 4:41pm On Mar 20, 2019 |
Emusan: Likewise Christ correct the apostles perception that they are seeing a spirit, whereas They should See he his in Human form. Emphasis on " What they saw " . Is not a spirit but mankind form . Let's now confirm if that Form is materialized or not
Matthew 15:17 is still there for you to ponder on If an human ate according to Jesus, would he visit the Toilet or not ? 2 Likes |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses And The Resurrection Of Jesus by Emusan(m): 5:00pm On Mar 20, 2019 |
Janosky: See this deluded person accusing me of not knowing my Bible Mary Magdalene saw Jesus impaled with cuts,nail marks on his body.(John19:25. Matt12:39,40) Had it been you know your Bible more than watchtower or Awake, you wouldn't have committed this blunder. Two Angels were INSIDE the sepulchre which Mary spoke with and after spoken with them she TURNED before Jesus appeared to her but because watchtower lie has blindfolded your mind to believe that the Rising Lord is an Angel, you have to bring that here in other to disgrace yourself. After saying this, she turned around and saw Jesus standing there, but she did not realize that it was Jesus. John 20:14 NWT She was the first person who the resurrected Jesus first appeared to (john20:14-16) and spoke with . Until you prove further that you know your Bible more than watchtower and awake should you engage me. |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses And The Resurrection Of Jesus by asalimpo(m): 5:02pm On Mar 20, 2019 |
Barristter07:you can quote me using the "quote" link. I wont be able to alter that. Like i said,quote me in full not in bits, dont twist what i said. |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses And The Resurrection Of Jesus by Emusan(m): 5:12pm On Mar 20, 2019 |
Barristter07: CORRECTED something they already have the notion of Olodo.... whereas They should See he his in Human form. Emphasis on " What they saw " . Is not a spirit but mankind form . Say that to your GB and your fellow JWs to swallow... In human FORM yet says "IT IS I MYSELF" and even said SPIRIT DOESN'T HAVE FLESH AND BONE as you see me have. Like I said earlier, only a dishonest person and someone with devil heart will read such statement from Christ and give it opposite meaning. Let's now confirm if that Form is materialized or not The form Jesus came with can be seen from Christ statement Himself, "IT IS I MYSELF" and "SPIRIT doesn't have flesh and bones as YOU see ME HAVE" Matthew 15:17 is still there for you to ponder on Let's ponder on it together.... When Jehovah visited father Abraham and ate with him, which toilet did Jehovah use, that of Russell or the one in your house That's the question. |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses And The Resurrection Of Jesus by Hairyrapunzel: 6:45pm On Mar 20, 2019 |
asalimpo: Twisting words is the only thing they know how to do. They take a phrase in a verse, twist it, make an assumption from the twisted phrase, ask a question based on this assumption, generate an answer from the assumption and then create their doctrine from this answer. It's the only thing they know how to do. |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses And The Resurrection Of Jesus by Janosky: 3:35am On Mar 21, 2019 |
Emusan: Excuse to dodge questions wey u no fit answer. Jesus is an angel in.fact the chief (Prince) of Jehovah's army. Lol |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses And The Resurrection Of Jesus by Barristter07: 7:56am On Mar 21, 2019 |
Emusan: You are only making noise. And it won't get you anywhere, The Issue here is that FORM they saw . Is it Materialized or Not ? The angels that appeared to Abraham Materialized, so the idea of a toilet is INVALID . Did Jesus Materialize too ? If Yes, Good If No, Do you accept he would visit the toilet ? " Don't you know that whatever goes into the mouth goes into the stomach and then into a toilet? " Matthew 15:17 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses And The Resurrection Of Jesus by Barristter07: 8:23am On Mar 21, 2019 |
asalimpo: asalimpo Lying cannot save you. 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses And The Resurrection Of Jesus by asalimpo(m): 8:30am On Mar 21, 2019 |
Barristter07:you're a funny dude. Your struggle with english construction is apparent. "it is THEOLOGY that is warping your mind. That (the JW THEOLOGY warping your mind) tells you (speaks to,convinces you) that the soul dies with the body". Comprende? you keep flashing ur ignorance in this aspects. See as you r flashing your teeth! Dont do this in public dude or the embarrassmnt would b great. Read in context and learn basics of inference and grammer rules. Pronouns especially,they trip you up. "That" was a pronoun pointing to a noun- Theology (specifically warped stinking jw theology) |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses And The Resurrection Of Jesus by asalimpo(m): 8:47am On Mar 21, 2019 |
Janosky:An "angel" that is God! Right. That the bible says is GOD but u corrupt jws have to twist that verse because it goes against your theology. An "angel" God (Father) calls God! Oops! An "angel" who created ALL things,yet isnt created- you jws- twist that scriptures to say otherwise! An "angel" that FORGIVES sin-like God! You guyz hav serious brain issues! Only a deranged man or a brainscrubbed man will argue over the obvious! |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses And The Resurrection Of Jesus by Barristter07: 8:52am On Mar 21, 2019 |
asalimpo: Buhahaha Damage control Eeyah, you forgot you respond to a post that says I guess souls are trapped in the Sea. Your response was a reply for what you think happened to those souls in the sea . Okay , what happened to the souls of people that DIED in the SEA ? Cc: jozzy4 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses And The Resurrection Of Jesus by asalimpo(m): 9:14am On Mar 21, 2019 |
Barristter07:talking to ppl like u in english is a struggle. You have to b re educated on the basics of english grammer. So do you admit tht u were wrong in interpreting my statemnt? |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses And The Resurrection Of Jesus by asalimpo(m): 9:20am On Mar 21, 2019 |
Barristter07:olodo! How you could you interprete that wrong! Illiterate. You argue but u cant think dumb brain? How could you misinterprete that? |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses And The Resurrection Of Jesus by Hairyrapunzel: 9:41am On Mar 21, 2019 |
Barristter07: 17 “Don’t you see that whatever enters the [b]mouth goes into the stomach and then out of the bod[/b]y? 18 But the things that come out of a person’s mouth come from the heart, and these defile them. 19 For out of the heart come evil thoughts—murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, false testimony, slander. Where did you see toilet? Na wa o. You even have to rewrite the bible. Lol Show us a bible verse that said Angels materialized. I know you will look for you go tire. You will bring words your leaders assumed in their magazines and try to force it on the bible. |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses And The Resurrection Of Jesus by Janosky: 10:07am On Mar 21, 2019 |
Barristter07: asalimpo: Barrister07 has said it all. Asalimpo lying Pharisee twisting the scriptures in a failed bid to fight back. Jehovah made the universe THROUGH his "only begotten son.and only begotten god " whom he appointed heir over all things" Heb1:1,2. John 1:3,18 Greek Dia auto> "THROUGH- the channel for an act or process ."Begotten" that word renders your twisted theory faulty &useless 1 Like |
Re: Jehovah's Witnesses And The Resurrection Of Jesus by asalimpo(m): 10:35am On Mar 21, 2019 |
Janosky:you guys always go to the greek. How does John1v1 render in "the greek"? Also, the bible says thy throne O God (God calling Jesus God). Oops! You to go to the GREEK! AND jesus being equal with God thought equality with God not something to be grasped with but made Himself humble to die on the Cross! Again, that verse (find it) shows Jesus equal to God! Jesus forgave sins. Only Can do that? You guys - brainscrubbed jws- have a long way to go. A real long way. ... And before Abraham was I Am I AM = God! Another of God's names? Still blind? Or you neeed more GREEK! ADD LATIN to it. And Thomas said ".. My Lord and my (wait for this ) MY GOD ". Jesus didnt rebuke him but each time a believer tried to worship an angel, the angel refused it. See revelations. Jesus,being God receives WORSHIP: SATAN was thrown out for that. Still confused? Searching the greek? |
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