cococandy:

@topic, he kidnapped the children. If she calls the Australian immigration services , he can be deported based on that. People don’t know their rights and when they go beyond their legitimate boundaries.

he kidnapped his own children you say..



He has equal right over the children too you know

SimonRose:
Mennnnn..... This man must be a sharp shooter.

Even the Devil himself go fear this your gun.

That can only happen in his wildest nightmares. Listen there is absolutely no way the man can get away with this if true. You don't even know the extent to which she can destroy that man just by this singular stupid action of his.

highcollide:
I just pray the man eliminated everything that could implicate him or link the woman to the kids.



Women cannot continue to use marriage to destroy men.


It can't continue.

Crass ignorance.

Oga, as long as the woman didn't consent to the kids travelling to Australia with him,
it is a kidnap. Wether you paint it red, blue or purple will not prevent the man from facing the consequences of "kidnapping".

Excuzeme:


You are wrong!
Because you "report kidnap", does not make the father of the children a kidnapper!
Dont mis-inform people on the web.
The embassy and the Police will have to look into the circumstances of the "father" being in custody of his kids, afterall, he was never denied custody, ab initio. Dont forget they are not even divorced as of date, according to the story.
They would know that the 'kidnap' story was just to get attention and it is a ruse
Las las, the court would require him to allow the woman access to the children of the union.


NB: I am not in support of not letting the woman "see" her children once in awhile, by arraignment if she can manage to get a Visa to Aussy.

BTW: I think the story is just 'made-up', too many loose ends in it!
For example, if ONLY one spouse is travelling with kids, the airline and the embassy issuing the Visa would have demanded a "letter of consent" to travel with the children, from the "other spouse" (the wife in this case) ......
or shall we assume he has such letter in his possession, if he actually did travel with the kids?
If that is the case then, she cant even shout 'kidnap' because such letter will immediately invalidate her claim of kidnap!

Lmao, chaaii

midnighter:


Hei! Oga please we're sorry na

Equal rights with their mom

That’s why he needs her consent to take them outside the country.
They both need each other’s consent for stuff like that.

ohem007:



he kidnapped his own children you say..



He has equal right over the children too you know

sweetilicious:
Am speechless.I don't support cheating.If am with you, just believe that am so in.The woman if truly she was cheating didn't do well.But for the Man to take laws into his hand,it's a no no to me.

Yes, thats why its better not to overreact because you will end up looking like the bad person

He should have just quietly divorced her and continued with his life

The thread has been invaded by mannerless people who cannot comment without insulting people. Smh

Omudia11:
Do you know how grave and dire the consequences of kidnapping is?

The bolded is for a court to decide. Definitely not the Australian court and they could care less about that. Their only concern will be the kidnapping of those kids. So first and foremost, the man could be jailed or outrightly deported and banned. When he gets to Nigeria them they decide who is more fit to gain custody.

Now u have to prove beyond reasonable doubt that the kids were kidnapped in the first instance. The question is can a child be kidnapped by his biological parent? Does Nigerian law see it that way? A tricky situation here I tell u.

Omudia11:
Crass ignorance.

Oga, as long as the woman didn't consent to the kids travelling to Australia with him,
it is a kidnap. Wether you paint it red, blue or purple will not prevent the man from facing the consequences of "kidnapping".

Uncle you can kindly go and report at the Australian embassy on the woman's behave since say na pVssy dey hungry you fVck. The woman will greatly reward you with unlimited access to the pvssy tho..

Jokerman:
yes they are... Asin no one knew the guy was planning these... The funny thing is that he even sold the house he built with his wife.... So the wife won't see her kids again for life or what?

don't answer a question u are nt sure of it... only the cheating wife knows the real father of the children...

She doesn't deserve to be with those kids. Cheating in marriage disgusts me. I mean in normal relationship its a bit more bearable. How can you mother my kids and still collect from outside its beta u file divorce papers at least that way I lld know you don't want to be with me again.
The man try sef . e cook d plan for two years

izzou:


You can give her any punishment you deem necessary, but don't deny her the access to be with her children

They are hers too

ifyalways:
Storytime !!!!

How was he able to apply for visa and fly with the children without the wifes/mothers consent?

In the 0.2% chance that this is true, the wife only needs to send an email with the children's birth certificate/immunization cards, attach evidences which the man have generously supplied her( pictures in Australlia etc) and they will be on the next flight to lagos.

Bottomline : Story time

Stop thinking with your artificial eye lashes. What if the mother was dead? Will he still require her consent to apply for visa and fly with them?

I don't tolerate idiotic mentions.

rs172:





Uncle you can kindly go and report at the Australian embassy on the woman's behave since say na pVssy dey hungry you fVck. The woman will greatly reward you with unlimited access to the pvssy tho..

Mumu. Go and read up, you won't, instead you'll come crawling like ravening wolves attacking people who know more than you.

If he stated that she's dead. Then she has won the case before it even started. All she has to do is provide information that proves she's the actual mother of the kids and it will be ascertained that the man falsified a death certificate which will either land him in jail outrightly or face deportation. He may have his property confiscated too.

Last last the woman will still win.

airex:
Stop thinking with your artificial eye lashes. What if the mother was dead? Will he still require her consent to apply for visa and fly with them?

She deserves to be with the kids she gave birth to. Cheating doesn't change the fact she is their mother. She didn't kill someone, she only cheated.

omaigala12:
She doesn't deserve to be with those kids. Cheating in marriage disgusts me. I mean in normal relationship its a bit more bearable. How can you mother my kids and still collect from outside its beta u file divorce papers at least that way I lld know you don't want to be with me again.
The man try sef . e cook d plan for two years

A child can be kidnapped by their biological parent.

It is not "Nigerian law", it is Australian law since those kids were taken to Australia without their mother's consent.

Yes even under Nigerian law it is still a kidnap. Same thing happened to Adenuga's son. He kidnapped his own child and prevented the mother access to the child even after the court granted custody to the mother. He's facing kidnap charges currently..

Neddyogu:

Now u have to prove beyond reasonable doubt that the kids were kidnapped in the first instance. The question is can a child be kidnapped by his biological parent? Does Nigerian law see it that way? A tricky situation here I tell u.

So if your kid gets kidnapped, you'll move on and forget them because reporting the issue might potentially lead to your assassination?

How do you people reason? Asking a mother to forget her own children that she carried in her womb. Will you forget them if your wife took your kids away from you?

Ten06:

She should just continue enjoying her promiscuous life cos if she make any funny move and the man is repatriated he may decide to assassinate her

Jokerman:
These happened in my neighborhood

A couple got marrried about 4 years ago. They have two kids( A boy and a girl). The man works with a telecoms company as an engineer while the wife works as a banker.
Two years later, the man discovered that his wife was cheating on him, Buh his wife never knew that the man was in the know because he never asked her about it, however he was gathering evidence.

All through this while, though the man was planning to go overseas without telling anyonr not even his wife....

Two days ago, it was learnt the man had traveled to Australia with his two kids, and leaving his wife behind without telling her..

The wife was judging that the man was wicked etc.. The man now forwarded photos, text messages, DNA results of his 2 kids to the family as he said he won't be returning to Nigeria anytime soon...

Now isn't this too much of revenge against the wife.... I felt he should have divorced her or asked her about the cheating etc...instead of just disapearing like that with the kids

What do y'all think... Can you do this or something worse??

I have a case at hand on all fours with this case..

Omudia11:
A child can be kidnapped by their biological parent.

It is not "Nigerian law", it is Australian law since those kids were taken to Australia without their mother's consent.

Yes even under Nigerian law it is still a kidnap. Same thing happened to Adenuga's son. He kidnapped his own child and prevented the mother access to the child even after the court granted custody to the mother. He's facing kidnap charges currently..

Oga read d bolded again slowly. In this matter was there a court order preventing the father from going anywhere with the kids? Oga if a court order does not restrain a biological father from access to his children, a charge of kidnapping cannot be leveled against him. Leave sentiments and emotions aside and communicate with the knowledge of the law.

cococandy:
Equal rights with their mom

That’s why he needs her consent to take them outside the country.
They both need each other’s consent for stuff like that.

He don't need her consent. Since,she did not ask for his.........before playing her away matches.

Lmao, your ignorance has reached the high heavens and the angels are in complete awe of your folly.

For the umpteenth time, a father has zero right whatsoever to travel abroad with his kids without the consent of the mother of the kids and vice versa

It is even impossible for one parent to secure visas for the kids without the consent of the other parent. If you successfully travel out with those kids without the other parent's consent, it is a kidnap. This is the standpoint of the law and it is obtainable in every country where sane people live.

If caught, that person could face jail, deportation or both.

Neddyogu:


Oga read d bolded again slowly. In this matter was there a court order preventing the father from going anywhere with the kids? Oga if a court order does not restrain a biological father from access to his children, a charge of kidnapping cannot be leveled against him. Leave sentiments and emotions aside and communicate with the knowledge of the law.

ifyalways:
Storytime !!!!

How was he able to apply for visa and fly with the children without the wifes/mothers consent?

In the 0.2% chance that this is true, the wife only needs to send an email with the children's birth certificate/immunization cards, attach evidences which the man have generously supplied her( pictures in Australlia etc) and they will be on the next flight to lagos.

Bottomline : Story time

You don't know Nigeria.

Magnifik18:


Who approved and granted him sole custody of the kids?

Did he divorce the woman like he legally married her ?

Where have you seen where infidelity makes one unfit to adequately take care of her children?

I didn't read your trash completely , only the 1st paragraph was enough to describe you as an olodo.

This can only happen in Africa. If he had tried this stunt abroad, a BOLO and bounty would have been on his head and he would go to jail for kidnap.

I did indicate she needs a quack lawyer cos all she needs is a report and their pic plus evidence of marriage submitted at the embassy.

The speed dem go take deport am eh... even him will be surprised.

No evidence of divorce, no judge order of the woman being an unfit parent then he just disappeared with the kids.

Olodo grade A. If you are a lawyer, den you be native lawyer.

You are trying too hard to appear like someone with a tiny amount of brain cells, like someone who went to school and even at that, you failed miserably from the first go!
I did not want to dignify your idiocy with a response but l am sure you will be feeling like an educated person, l did not just throw-in a line.

I said: " The father of the kids has not been denied custody, ab initio (that means from the word-go, l am sure you got that twisted).
You responded: "who approved and granted him SOLE custody of the kids"?

Your response above, to a very simple and direct statement, shows that l am dealing with some dolt who cant comprehend the most basic of statements!
FYI, a Parent (any Parent, father or Mother) without any Court order stating otherwise, is a NATURAL CUSTODIAN of their Child/ren, ab initio.
That is all l said ........and that is very, very different from saying one of the parents have "sole custody" (which is a revocation of the custody rights of the other parent!).
You are most likely a kid but even at that, if you cant comprehend, interpret or decipher a straight-forward, basic statement like that and you have to go-off tangent like a deranged banshee, then you and l are not on the same planet and we cant have a decent convo.
So, just Piss-off and go talk to someone who share an I.Q level with you.

And stop acting like you have a Passport, not to mention a Visa or bought a ticket before, we know your types on Social media.
Abroad koo, Jamaica nii.
Dindinrin

Omudia11:
Do Nigerian men act like the children are their too when they leave all he primary child care duties for their wives?

See what I did there? To whom brain is given sense is required.

You must be a kid.. let me ask you, are u married? If not, do u at least have a kid by a Nigerian woman? If none of the above apply to you, please keep quiet and go lick ice crram with your chEwing gum girl friend, u don't know what u are trying to meddle into.

Neddyogu:


Oga read d bolded again slowly. In this matter was there a court order preventing the father from going anywhere with the kids? Oga if a court order does not restrain a biological father from access to his children, a charge of kidnapping cannot be leveled against him. Leave sentiments and emotions aside and communicate with the knowledge of the law.

This is exactly what most people dont understand.

Which comes first, the "kidnapping" or the "natural custodianship" of any or one of the Parent of a child? ...because one can invalidate the other!

For example, can a woman take her child to school or to church on Sunday morning? Yes.
Can a father too, take his child to the same places? - Yes.
Can another person, say a neighbor too, do the same without permission from the parents? - No.

The question then is WHY and what is the difference between the too scenario?

l can be SUCCESSFULLY Charged (successfully is the key word here because anyone can make an allegation) if l am in custody of a child that is not my own, say l took him to school or even to church! - Correct.

The answer lies in the "natural rights of parents" to be with their child/ren.
Any parent can be with their child (if no Court Order says otherwise) ANYWHERE, without that "association/Custody" being termed an offense.
That "Natural Rights" of association/custody, derives at birth and covers both parents.
But the "natural right" of one parent to be with their Child CANNOT EXTINGUISH the "Natural Right" of the other Parent to also exercise their own right to be with the same child.
This is WHY Consent of the other Parent is always required, if you are going to take the child away, especially outside jurisdiction, .....because you will, by doing so, deny the other Parent of their "Natural Right" to be with that child.
But that still DOES NOT EXTINGUISH your own "natural rights' as a "Co-Parent" of that child because ANY PARENT has a natural right to be with their child......which is the right the parent being accused, will claim to be exercising!.

Judges world over, always "balance" these three rights together, when they make decisions in cases where ONE Parent shouts "kidnap" of their child, by the other Parent.
Issues like:
- How long has the "accused Parent" been with the child? When last where they with the child?
- Is their an 'on-going' conflict with the other Parent making the allegation?
- Is there a Safety/Barring Order in-place at the moment?
- When the 'accused Parent' had the child, was it with the use of force or what he taken naturally as it used to be in the past?

Just because one Parent shouts 'kidnap', does not mean it is automatically and successfully a kidnap, in law.

Omudia11:
Crass ignorance.

Oga, as long as the woman didn't consent to the kids travelling to Australia with him,
it is a kidnap. Wether you paint it red, blue or purple will not prevent the man from facing the consequences of "kidnapping".

Read my post above.
It is really entertaining when People who HAVE NO CLUE, accuse those who know, of ignorance! Its all abut the 'anonymous internet'.
Even if I assume you have dealt with Judges before or are learned in law (These are outlandish assumptions that l know are not true in your own case.), so l will also assume you have heard Judges mention the phrase "extraneous circumstance".

Its like saying "if you kill someone, you are AUTOMATICALLY guilty of Murder".
this could be true but under "extraneous circumstances", that "Murder guilt" of an accused has been changed to "Manslaughter", Unlawful killing, "self defense", or even "death by misadventure" ..............all carrying different 'sentences' or NONE at all.
Laws do have "clauses", for a reason!

What l am saying is that "In Law, there is no cut-and-dry situation", it all depends on how smart your Lawyer is ....and the circumstances of the event (from a Judges point of view)

.

Excuzeme:


This is exactly what most people dont understand.

Which comes first, the "kidnapping" or the "natural custodianship" of any or one of the Parent of a child? ...because one can invalidate the other!

For example, can a woman take her child to school or to church on Sunday morning? Yes.
Can a father too, take his child to the same places? - Yes.
Can another person, say a neighbor too, do the same without permission from the parents? - No.

The question then is WHY and what is the difference between the too scenario?

l can be SUCCESSFULLY Charged (successfully is the key word here because anyone can make an allegation) if l am in custody of a child that is not my own, say l took him to school or even to church! - Correct.

The answer lies in the "natural rights of parents" to be with their child/ren.
Any parent can be with their child (if no Court Order says otherwise) ANYWHERE, without that "association/Custody" being termed an offense.
That "Natural Rights" of association/custody, derives at birth and covers both parents.
But the "natural right" of one parent to be with their Child CANNOT EXTINGUISH the "Natural Right" of the other Parent to also exercise their own right to be with the same child.
This is WHY Consent of the other Parent is always required, if you are going to take the child away, especially outside jurisdiction, .....because you will, by doing so, deny the other Parent of their "Natural Right" to be with that child.
But that still DOES NOT EXTINGUISH your own "natural rights' as a "Co-Parent" of that child because ANY PARENT has a natural right to be with their child......which is the right the parent being accused, will claim to be exercising!.

Judges world over, always "balance" these three rights together, when they make decisions in cases where ONE Parent shouts "kidnap" of their child, by the other Parent.
Issues like:
- How long has the "accused Parent" been with the child? When last where they with the child?
- Is their an 'on-going' conflict with the other Parent making the allegation?
- Is there a Safety/Barring Order in-place at the moment?
- When the 'accused Parent' had the child, was it with the use of force or what he taken naturally as it used to be in the past?

Just because one Parent shouts 'kidnap', does not mean it is automatically and successfully a kidnap, in law.

I tried to educate the other fella but he was too obtuse, dense and uncouth.

Omudia11:
I don't tolerate idiotic mentions.

Eya, i hope say dem don give you tot0 fvck

Neddyogu:


I tried to educate the other fella but he was too obtuse, dense and uncouth.

Same problem with that underage dolt called Magnifix18................empty barrels that know nothing and do not know that they know nothing!

At times, it just takes a tiny bit of commonsense, to do a little reasoning after-all, most laws derive from common (sense) law.

Magnifik18:


. Stupidity is something I do not have tolerance for.

I can fix lazy, I can fix childishness but you see stupidity and adamance - that, no one can fix.

YOU ARE RIGHT PLEASE ( whatever you stated up there).

Just miss me with your stupidity cos it ain't my problem to deal with.

Have a great life.

PS, don't reply . Thanks Sir

The best way to make someone not to reply to 'a response from you', is to just not respond yourself.
But if you write half-a-page of bunkum and then ask the other person not to respond...... you are just confirming what was already an established fact about your personality - negative territory I.Q