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Re: Towards Igbo-yoruba Unity And Coalition by shadeyinka(m): 1:35pm On May 09, 2019 |
kernel01:I agree with you BUT if we don't look at the potential we have as a nation, we would think fragmentation is the best that can happen. Why do we vote in incompetent leaders? Because we allow the uneducated to decide for us through our disunity. Have you ever seen the voting class in the north? You'll be sorry for this country! When we fragment, we e become like Guinea Bissau and Togo: God forbid! |
Re: Towards Igbo-yoruba Unity And Coalition by kernel01: 1:36pm On May 09, 2019 |
Mayor08: When did criticizing a government that one is a stake holder in become a problem? If we pay tax, we have a right to be constructively critical about issues that affects us. Critics isn't same as hate. Wait... Even if they hate him, they have every right. After killing their children in the name of Python dance, how many people were killed that warrant Military intervention, why haven't they implemented same strategy in Zamfara and the whole of North East? 6 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Towards Igbo-yoruba Unity And Coalition by Donelli: 1:41pm On May 09, 2019 |
shadeyinka:Read that my comment again. I made mention of two or three strongmen. It is mostly unlikely that all strongmen will agree with one ideology unless it affects their collective existence or interest. In reality, each usually pursue personal agenda so it is impossible to have everybody voting in one direction. It's usually cut almost in half (for two strongmen) as is the case in the SW overall, or two people align to oust the third. For the Obasanjo part, I can't comment on that but what I read is that the SW tilts in favor of those who are unapologetic about pursing the yoruba agenda while Obasanjo was more of a nationalist. 1 Like |
Re: Towards Igbo-yoruba Unity And Coalition by Mayor08: 1:43pm On May 09, 2019 |
kernel01:Read my last post well, I'm only going to touch the points I didn't make mention of... We can decide to hate or not but not been so childish as insulting everybody that isn't with you. I'm not pro/against anybody.. Just get my message right.. Someone clearly said pdp birthed APC, why then the sudden hate for anyone in Apt and you expect people not to see things otherwise |
Re: Towards Igbo-yoruba Unity And Coalition by kernel01: 1:44pm On May 09, 2019 |
shadeyinka: Which Togo? Brother... Small Ghana has more Direct Foreign Investment as we speak. Better road network, steady power and more visa free nations. Why do we have majority of our top officers from the North, when they have the least literacy in Nigeria? Are you going to stop the North from bringing in uneducated personality to head ministries? 1 Like |
Re: Towards Igbo-yoruba Unity And Coalition by aribisala0(m): 1:46pm On May 09, 2019 |
What are the Eboes afraid of Let the SW ,SE and SS slug it out competitively? At the end of the day it would surprise both that the SS would win. The bottomline is the Yoruba do NOT see the Eboes as a relevant factor to them becoming president. The Eboes HAVE ALWAYS been political competitors so long may that continue. Let the Eboes stop wailing and come to the pitch to contest. aribisala0: 3 Likes |
Re: Towards Igbo-yoruba Unity And Coalition by kernel01: 1:49pm On May 09, 2019 |
Mayor08: Look brother, all you life, I've never seen any Nigerian President insulted by any tribe. The West called him unprintable names. Today, we're faced with nick naming a sitting President. The West set the antecedent. Don't expect it to stop. The South South may not homogeneous in nature, but was pained by those gestures. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Towards Igbo-yoruba Unity And Coalition by Curlieweed: 1:49pm On May 09, 2019 |
shadeyinka: The EU has a very large common market but it’s made of several countries. You don’t have to be in a single country to have a common market. 6 Likes 4 Shares |
Re: Towards Igbo-yoruba Unity And Coalition by Mayor08: 1:52pm On May 09, 2019 |
kernel01:Lol.. Sounds funny.. Last time I checked he and is cabinet called the south west ewedu eating people... Browse that out though |
Re: Towards Igbo-yoruba Unity And Coalition by aribisala0(m): 1:54pm On May 09, 2019 |
Donelli:Actually We are not bothered check history What are the Eboes afraid of Let the SW ,SE and SS slug it out competitively? At the end of the day it would surprise both that the SS would win. The bottomline is the Yoruba do NOT see the Eboes as a relevant factor to them becoming president. The Eboes HAVE ALWAYS been political competitors so long may that continue. Let the Eboes stop wailing and come to the pitch to contest. aribisala0: Even from opposition you accuse us of sabotaging the ports in the East Let me summarize your position If the Yoruba do not support Eboe presidency then let the North have it in short you know you can never win it. The reality is there are Yoruba individuals who covet the position but we are with you on the same page because we will not support you. It will not happen . The only way we will vote an Eboe man for President is if both APC and PDP field an Eboe. That will not happen It is the North that eventually whether in 2023 or 2031 that will beg us to lead Nigeria. Why? we are making demonstrable progress in governance with Lagos and Ogun. We are Marching on with the DAWN agenda. We have ALWAYS been in opposition so that is very familiar territory for us as Papa Awolowo taught. We can do well without the centre If I am to be honest I really do not believe that a Yoruba President can protect Yoruba interest because of trying to appear nationalistic. What we need is a regional champion that is local to help regional development and reduce dependence on the centre. 3 Likes |
Re: Towards Igbo-yoruba Unity And Coalition by kernel01: 1:56pm On May 09, 2019 |
Mayor08: Please show me. |
Re: Towards Igbo-yoruba Unity And Coalition by aribisala0(m): 2:00pm On May 09, 2019 |
kernel01:Please show where THE WEST called him unprintable names 1 Like |
Re: Towards Igbo-yoruba Unity And Coalition by kernel01: 2:04pm On May 09, 2019 |
aribisala0: 1 Like 1 Share
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Re: Towards Igbo-yoruba Unity And Coalition by Donelli: 2:08pm On May 09, 2019 |
aribisala0:Do you really believe the presidency is in the priority list of the Igbos? I mean the Igbos as a whole, not the handful of political jobbers. When you respond to this question I will come back to address your points 4 Likes |
Re: Towards Igbo-yoruba Unity And Coalition by Mayor08: 2:10pm On May 09, 2019 |
kernel01:Couldn't fish it out, Jonathan didn't say it himself, it was said by one of his appointees.. I will like to share a thread with you and let you see thing for yourself and let you know we are all the same... Yorubas complained of been marginalised by Jonathan led fog but your people rained insults on us and our elders we can't reap where we did not show forgetting we also voted for Jonathan.... https://www.nairaland.com/745731/yoruba-marginalization-elders-met-jonathan |
Re: Towards Igbo-yoruba Unity And Coalition by helinues: 2:18pm On May 09, 2019 |
Donelli: Because North supports their own,, so South should have supported cluelessness? Please dont be carried away with politics. The same corporate media made use of their channels to do what they did to GEJ just that Buhari have lots of projects to show i most especially in SW. If you are from SE, please tell me, how did Buhari got more votes in 2019 compared to 2015? |
Re: Towards Igbo-yoruba Unity And Coalition by kernel01: 2:23pm On May 09, 2019 |
Mayor08: When the PDP zoned the Speakership of the House to the South West it was expected that all members elected on the platform of the Party would be loyal to it. The leadership of the PDP did not know that there was a mole in the PDP. The opposition represented by the defunct ACN and CPC supported you Hon Tambuwal and deceived some Honorable members of the PDP in order to install you Speaker of the House. It was obvious to all that the intention of the opposition and yourself was to cause disaffection in the polity as your emergence as Speaker disenfranchised the South West. What was the position of the Igbos in that government? 1 Like |
Re: Towards Igbo-yoruba Unity And Coalition by Donelli: 2:24pm On May 09, 2019 |
helinues:The bolded plus the 2023 ambition is the reason.. Every other thing is just to make up essay. SW was against GEJ because they didn't feel in charge, now that they do, nothing else matters 3 Likes |
Re: Towards Igbo-yoruba Unity And Coalition by shadeyinka(m): 2:25pm On May 09, 2019 |
Curlieweed:This is like a demonic sponsored enemity if the conclusion is that our coalition can never work due to unforgivness. If USA can be at peace with Germany, we should also give peace a chance. Even Israel after the Holocaust seem to have forgiven Germany. God can heal any wound! |
Re: Towards Igbo-yoruba Unity And Coalition by Mayor08: 2:26pm On May 09, 2019 |
kernel01:Here we go.. I'm talking about appointments... His cabinet |
Re: Towards Igbo-yoruba Unity And Coalition by shadeyinka(m): 2:28pm On May 09, 2019 |
kernel01:Is Libia really doing well technologically? I understand that problem of religious difference but in situations where we now have some Igbo Muslims (Nwoko Ned) as an example, we may need to think deeper. |
Re: Towards Igbo-yoruba Unity And Coalition by kernel01: 2:30pm On May 09, 2019 |
Mayor08: Agric and Natural Resources (State) Bukar Tijani Borno Attorney General, Justice Mohammed Bello Adoke Kogi Aviation Stella Oduah-Ogiemwonyi Anambra Defence Bello H. Mohammed Kebbi Defence (State) Erelu Olusola Obada Osun Education Ruqayyatu Rufai Jigawa FCT (State) Olajumoke Akinjide Oyo Federal Capital Territory Bala Mohammed Bauchi Finance Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala Abia Finance (State) Yerima Lawal Ngama Yobe Foreign Affairs Olugbenga Ashiru Ogun Foreign Affairs (State) Viola Onwuliri Imo Health Onyebuchi Chukwu Ebonyi Information Labaran Maku Nasarawa Communication Technology Mrs. Omobola Johnson Ondo Interior Comrade Abba Moro Benue Labour Emeka Wogu Abia Mines and Steel Development Mohammed Musa Sada Katsina National Planning Shamsudeen Usman Kano Niger Delta Affairs Godsday Orubebe Delta Niger Delta Affairs (State) Zainab Ibrahim Kuchi Niger Petroleum Diezani Alison-Madueke Bayelsa Police Affairs Caleb Olubolade Ekiti Power Chinedu Nebo took over from Bart Nnaji Enugu Science and Technology Ita Okon Bassey Ewa Akwa Ibom Sports Yusuf Sulaiman Sokoto Trade and Investment Olusegun O. Aganga Lagos Trade and Investment (State) Samuel Ioraer Ortom Benue Transport Idris A.Umar Gombe Women Affairs Zainab Maina Adamawa Works Mike Onolememen Edo Works (State) Bashir Yugudu Zamfara Youth Development Bolaji Abdullahi Kwara. Check your facts next time before saying things just because others are saying that. 4 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Towards Igbo-yoruba Unity And Coalition by shadeyinka(m): 2:31pm On May 09, 2019 |
Curlieweed:Why not a conferderacy just like the EU? If we fragment, we wouldn't still be able to relate together as markets for each other |
Re: Towards Igbo-yoruba Unity And Coalition by helinues: 2:31pm On May 09, 2019 |
Donelli: You are only shifting goal post. So the media reporting about the lapses of Buhari government was tactics for 2023 presidency? |
Re: Towards Igbo-yoruba Unity And Coalition by kernel01: 2:33pm On May 09, 2019 |
shadeyinka: Hahaha hah... Igbos have less than 1% Muslim population in Nigeria. This year was the very first time of seeing Igbo Muslim. 4 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Towards Igbo-yoruba Unity And Coalition by aribisala0(m): 2:34pm On May 09, 2019 |
Donelli:Do you believe the same of the Yoruba? We have had Obasanjo and it was no benefit so likewise. It is for bragging rights for the foolish. However the attitude of the Eboes is wrong and discouragingly they simply do not get it. They do not see why Nigerians have problems with them or their politics and think they will get results with the same approach. The reality is that the Eboes have ALWAY sided with the North against the SW why then in 2015 did they start talking of South. Was there no South in 1960 1965 1979 1983 In 1993 Eboes voted against Abiola. How then can Eboes even dream of think to suggest that Yoruba owe them any political fraternity. That is just hyposcrisy of the most shameless variety. Then in 2011 GEJ got to power and Stella Oduah revealed what is in the mind of Eboes. A person wakes up one day to sack several people of GM level in her ministry and replace them with Eboes. That one act was a brief moment of triumph short term and short sighted but the death knell of any potential trust politically. If some Yoruba were sleeping before they are all wide awake. The threat that if we Eboes cannot be president let the Hausas rule for ever is amusing. They cannot rule for ever. Look at what is happening in Zamfara state Kaduna and now Sokoto.They cannot even rule themselves. Which region is most prepared for a breakup today? I do not and I am being very honest here see any benefit to a Yoruba man being a president what we want is federal government state police and resource control.and the only thing a Yoruba man should go there to do is to establish that. Apart from that and taunting Eboes on Nairaland there is no gain. 2 Likes |
Re: Towards Igbo-yoruba Unity And Coalition by Mayor08: 2:34pm On May 09, 2019 |
kernel01:Do you really know much?.... Who doesn't know ministers are chosen from each states... Check his appointments and agencies.. Even Jonathan admitted |
Re: Towards Igbo-yoruba Unity And Coalition by MorufuAtanda: 2:35pm On May 09, 2019 |
shadeyinka: My brother this is a wonderful write up, which I applaud so much. Naturally, the two tribes should be best allies politically (they are already best allies socially) but the spirit of backwardness, rancour and bitterness no go gree dem. It is either yorubas shouting "we will never vote Ibo president', with Ibos claiming they also throw spanner in the wheels of a Yoruba presidential aspiration. Na who dey gain and who dey lose? The Igbos have mended fences with the SS and both have been voting in the same pattern since 1999, the missing link here is the Yoruba which join the majority south and form a powerful Southern bloc as campaigned for by Bode George and Afenifere in the 2006 southern conference in Enugu, hosted by Gov. Chimaroke Nnamani. Fight...fight...fight everytime. Shuuu! |
Re: Towards Igbo-yoruba Unity And Coalition by kernel01: 2:35pm On May 09, 2019 |
Mayor08: Ummm... I don tire for you. |
Re: Towards Igbo-yoruba Unity And Coalition by shadeyinka(m): 2:36pm On May 09, 2019 |
kernel01:The key to technological development isn't about direct foreign investment but about government will and market. Foreign direct investment looks good but it milks a country. Check out MTN in Nigeria. We actually give South Africa more money than we make from the investment. It's not even about the oil but about will to innovate and be self sufficient. The enormous resources of Nigeria is being mismanaged daily because we southerners wouldn't work together |
Re: Towards Igbo-yoruba Unity And Coalition by Donelli: 2:36pm On May 09, 2019 |
helinues:Fixed 1 Like |
Re: Towards Igbo-yoruba Unity And Coalition by qleap2all(m): 2:40pm On May 09, 2019 |
Igbo and yoruba unity? Are they fighting before? Egbirin ote! |
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