obailala:


Once again, the Pharisees originally rejected the idea of Gentiles being saved, but after they eventually got to terms with it, insisted that Gentile believers nust be made to obey the Laws of Moses. Below was the response of Apostle Peter:

Acts 15:10 - New International Version (NIV)

10 Now then, why do you try to test God by putting on the necks of Gentiles a yoke that neither we nor our ancestors have been able to bear?

Since you claim I do not understand English language, can you knidly interpret the meaning of the above response by Peter in simple terms that I can understand. I never claimed I was a biblical scholar, but at least I have read this very Chapter 15 of the Acts of the Apostles several times. Every time I ask this question to people like you, the only response I get is simply, "you need the Spirit to understand it". Or simply "you dont understatand it". Can you please explain what is difiiicult to understand here?.. Thanks.

Adakintroy:


You are confusing yourself. The holy spirit gives us direct link to God. Through his spirit we have direct access to god. He himself said there will come a time were this word will not be written in scroll but in our heart. That's the time of the spirit.

The law itself did not just appear. Holy men wrote them as they were carried along by the spirit.

What law did Moses or Enoch or Noah use to reach God.

onlyforchrist:


Hmmm, see Christian saying derogatory words to another human. where's love in all these things you are proving?
my view point is the right one, not yours mentality.

Shame on you if you are Christ-like.

alBHAGDADI:


If the law had permitted people to sleep with their mother, do t you think Christ would have done so? He didn't because it was against His law. That's cleat Jesus setting an example which you don't know has to do with his law. He loved his neighbor as required of the law. You say you love your neighbor because Jesus did same, but you dont know that he was simply following the law. Following Jesus is same as following the law cos he said he didn't come to abolish it and that one jot won't pass away.

alBHAGDADI:

It's not derogatory. I'm only bringing it the foolishness in his thoughts.
Mind you, it is Satan that accuses the brethren. Stop being like him.

alBHAGDADI:


The law came from God.


The Holy Spirit links you to God whom the law came from.

I now wonder how you think what the Holy Spirit will receive from God will be different from what God gave the prophets of Old whom you said wrote the laws when they were carried by the spirit.

Maximus69:
Whoever quotes any laws for you to obey now as a Christian is NOT a TRUE believer! Romans 10:2-4
TRUE Christian have just one law which is the law of Christ, meaning we're to make Jesus our role model. Imitate him in Thoughts, Words and Actions. That's all! Hebrew 12:2

LifestyleTonite:


Shut up Mr Jehovah's witness who deny Jesus Christ is God. They say he was just a mere angel who never resurrected bodily.

What a shame.

Everyone should take a look at the verse he quoted


Isaiah 54:17 King James Version (KJV)
17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of the Lord, and their righteousness is of me, saith the Lord.

In what way does this support his write up? But he just dropped the link to the verse so that gullible people who don't have time to open their Bible will think he made sense and spoke truth once they see a Bible link in his post. They won't know it has no correlation with his post.

alBHAGDADI:


What God said about tithe in the Old Testament is still relevant as long as he didn't say otherwise in the New Testament.

Though tithe doesn't determine who goes to heaven

BoboKush:
Whoever ever own nairaland.com is a big fool for discrimination and been religious bigot... Why can Muslim / Islamic people comment on Christian thread but Christain had to make oath to comment on Muslim thread... Why do people act foolish with no sense.... U can block me or do anything u like but the fact remain seun n all the mods here are foolish

Maximus69:
Whoever quotes any laws for you to obey now as a Christian is NOT a TRUE believer! Romans 10:2-4
TRUE Christian have just one law which is the law of Christ, meaning we're to make Jesus our role model. Imitate him in Thoughts, Words and Actions. That's all! Hebrew 12:2

ojhandsome:





i read ur initial post though i disagree with somethings you said but u wrote well

concerning tithes its not a new covenant or new testament practice and NOBODY paid tithes after Jesus died n resurrected Paul Peter James john etc never instructed any one to pay tithes, under the new covenant the way we give changed it was no longer under compulsion

in case your wondering where it is said....2Co_9:7  Every man according as he purposeth in his heart, so let him give; not grudgingly, or of necessity: for God loveth a cheerful giver.

under the old covenant it was a must

alBHAGDADI:


If the law had permitted people to sleep with their mother, do t you think Christ would have done so? He didn't because it was against His law. That's cleat Jesus setting an example which you don't know has to do with his law. He loved his neighbor as required of the law. You say you love your neighbor because Jesus did same, but you dont know that he was simply following the law. Following Jesus is same as following the law cos he said he didn't come to abolish it and that one jot won't pass away.

goldcoinhub:
Social media entrepreneur and activist Michael Nwanator Jr. has once again asked a crucial question on religion. He wants to know whey Christians are being 'forced' to obey the laws in old testament, despite the fact that there were none at the time.

Taking to his Facebook page, he argued that the Bible stated that the laws of the old testament are obsolete, so modern day Christians are not supposed to live by those laws.

No Christians in old testament, why are they forcing the laws on us

Read his post:

There was no Christian in the old testament, why are they making us practice the laws in the old testament?

Hebrew 8 vs 13
13 By calling this covenant “new,” he has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and outdated will soon disappear.
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The only thing we should emulate from Abraham is his faith. Any other thing is irrelevant, or should we also have side chics and go to war, use part of the war loot and give to a priest as tithe and later return the loots to the owners?

Christianity began after Christ came, you have no business practicing the law that bring a curse.

Galatians 3 vs 10 - 13
10 For all who rely on the works of the laware under a curse, as it is written: “Cursed is everyone who does not continue to do everything written in the Book of the Law.”[e]11 Clearly no one who relies on the law is justified before God, because “the righteous will live by faith.”[f] 12 The law is not based on faith; on the contrary, it says, “The person who does these things will live by them.”[g] 13 Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us, for it is written: “Cursed is everyone who is hung on a pole.”

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God was not talking to Christians in the old testament.

You will FOREVER be ignorant and slave to some people until you start reading the scriptures by yourself.

https://lailasnews.com/no-christians-in-old-testament-why-are-they-forcing-the-laws-on-us/

lalasticlala

Maximus69:
You talk too much Sir and that doesn't show any sign of wisdom in you! Proverbs 15:2
Why not just go straight to your point just like any other participants does?
Why must you attribute the speech of a commentator to particular GROUP?
Are you saying that you know of a global unique group whose line of thought is ONE? 1Corinthians 1:10, Philippians 2:2, Ephesians 4:3
Knowledge is the 'accumulation of useful information' we know you all have it! But
Wisdom is the 'practical applications of accumulated information for lasting benefits' this is what eludes the intellect of most people!
For your information, abstaining from blood was not just a law but a compulsion for health benefits! Act 15:28-29 compared to Isaiah 48:17-18

Mk93:

but the law is still being used in tithe collection

tunjijones:
Those two guys above me shd jst shut the hell up. U guys are disgracing urselves.

There was no where in the new testament that talked about paying tithe and yet these pastors wld keep saying if you dnt pay tithe u wld go to hell. Well I still don't understand dis. But pastors won't mention the part that says women shd not preach in church... This passage is even in new testament o...

alBHAGDADI:


Giving is different from paying.

Giving is freewill and no one will charge you if you do not give. The reason why tithe is different is because it belongs to God and that's why it is called paying. When you pay your house, you don't call it giving but paying. If you fail to, your landlord can say you are robbing him. That's why God said "will a man rob God?". So clearly, giving and paying are two different things, and nowhere did the apostles put an end to tithing.

driand:




Continue deceiving yourself, Na you Sabi bible pass...

Simple question, were there Christians at the time of the old testament?

The religion the law was meant for(Judaism) is it no longer there?

In Christianity who are the Levites? And who made them them so? when and where were they made so?

These things of the spirit you speak of as if you know what they are, believe me you don't know anything about them...

If you can't answer my questions and I hear you talk about this of the spirit on this forum again I will just....

alBHAGDADI:


That's why I told you that your understanding of the passage means Peter was telling the gentiles that they can go have sex with their sister and mother because they are not under the commandment against such.

The passage is simply about trying to enforce on the gentiles the law as a way towards salvation. That's what Peter kicked against because Jesus has already saved them. They don't need to obey the law towards salvation but towards a good life on Earth.

If you don't have the Holy Spirit, you will never understand the word of God.

alBHAGDADI:


That's why I told you that your understanding of the passage means Peter was telling the gentiles that they can go have sex with their sister and mother because they are not under the commandment against such.

The passage is simply about trying to enforce on the gentiles the law as a way towards salvation. That's what Peter kicked against because Jesus has already saved them. They don't need to obey the law towards salvation but towards a good life on Earth.

If you don't have the Holy Spirit, you will never understand the word of God.

Ikpa001:
See supposed believers as dem dey use abusive language. Lol.... Nawao

benji93:
1. what do you mean by love is the only compass? Love of God you mean, that still comes down to the spirit of God directing us. By using the word "love", you are making the bolded sentence only vaguely comprehensible. And don't even say you need the holy spirit do understand that, you might as well not explain at all. That sounds like the right word to use when you are trying to hide something. You cannot just throw the word "love" around.
2. What do you mean by there is no law to follow at anytime,rather the big picture is to question ourself on the purpose why the law was made?What big picture? you have been watching too much movies guy, and it's fast becoming your reality. "Purpose of the Law". What other meaning can you ascribe to the law "thou shall not kill" other than "thou shall not kill", i beg, in what other ways can you interprete that. The reality is that all the messages have been so watered down that,there is at least one way to justify an egragious sin such as killing. The only rational way to think about this is to obey all laws until the new testament says otherwise. It is deceitfully confusing to use the phrase "purpose of the law", the law clearly states: "do not commit adultery", what other purpose is there if not "do not sleep with another man's wife," or are you allowed to sleep with another man's wife when he is on vacation, or the woman is lonely. Ma guy, i am sorry to say this, but you don't appear forthcoming. Peace.

Grupo:
The Bible is nothing more than a story book that should be read by children and women.

alBHAGDADI:


It wasn't for Levites alone, but for the Priests and for the running of the House of God. Go and study.

JJOF:

Why quote me? I'm I the one using it for tithe collection?

alBHAGDADI:


Where did the Bible say so? If the Bible said such, how come the same Bible contains the Old testament?

alBHAGDADI:


Only the descendants of Aaron were priests. Today's priesthood is in the order of Melchizedec who received tithes

alBHAGDADI:


Those things you mentioned have been changed in the new testament. You don't read your Bible that's why you have seen where they were specifically changed. I can't go into details especially to educate you because I see that you don't read the Bible.

austelright1:


You that read the Bible so those things where changed and tithing was not changed. Tithing was part of the law and everything was changed. The law was abolished including tithing.
Pls read this bible verses and stop this argument about the law not been abolished
The law was abolished.
Acts

The law is an unbearable yoke. (Acts 15:10)

Romans

The law reveals sin but cannot fix it. (Romans 3:20)

If the law worked then faith would be irrelevant. (Romans 4:14)

The law brings wrath upon those who follow it. (Romans 4:15)

The purpose of the law was to increase sin. (Romans 5:20)

Christians are not under the law. (Romans 6:14)

Christians have been delivered from the law. (Romans 7:1-6)

The law is good, perfect and holy but cannot help you be good, perfect or holy. (Romans 7:7-12)

The law which promises life only brings death through sin. (Romans 7:10)

The law makes you sinful beyond measure. (Romans 7:13)

The law is weak. (Romans 8:2-3)

1 Corinthians

The strength of sin is the law (1 Corinthians 15:56)

2 Corinthians

The law is a ministry of death. (2 Corinthians 3:7)

The law is a ministry of condemnation. (2 Corinthians 3:9)

The law has no glory at all in comparison with the New Covenant. (2 Corinthians 3:10)

The law is fading away. (2 Corinthians 3:11)

Anywhere the law is preached it produces a mind-hardening and a heart-hardening veil. (2 Corinthians 3:14-15)

Galatians

The law justifies nobody. (Galatians 2:16)

Christians are dead to the law. (Galatians 2:19)

The law frustrates grace. (Galatians 2:21)

To go back to the law after embracing faith is “stupid”. (Galatians 3:1)

The law curses all who practice it and fail to do it perfectly. (Galatians 3:10)

The law has nothing to do with faith. (Galatians 3:11-12)

The law was a curse that Christ redeemed us from. (Galatians 3:13)

The law functioned in God’s purpose as a temporary covenant from Moses till John the Baptist announced Christ. (Galatians 3:16 & 19, also see… Matthew 11:12-13, Luke 16:16)

If the law worked God would have used it to save us. (Galatians 3:21)

The law was our prison. (Galatians 3:23)

The law makes you a slave like Hagar. (Galatians 4:24)

Ephesians

Christ has abolished the law which was a wall of hostility (Ephesians 2:15)

Philippians

Paul considered everything the law gained him as “skybalon” which is Greek for “poop”. (Philippians 3:4-

1 Timothy

The law is only good if used in the right context. (1 Timothy 1: (see next verse for the context)

It was made for the unrighteous but not for the righteous. (1 Timothy 1:9-10)

Hebrews

The law is weak, useless and makes nothing perfect. (Hebrews 7:18-19)

God has found fault with it and created a better covenant, enacted on better promises. (Hebrews 8:7-

It is obsolete, growing old and ready to vanish. (Hebrews 8:13)

It is only a shadow of good things to come and will never make someone perfect. (Hebrews 10:1)

Well there you have it… 37 scriptures that make a very convincing arguement.