Please jesusjnr, can you just post excerpts from that your thread titled 'The Church is DEAD' perhaps your friends could learn some good things about the Church instead of looking forward to EMULATING Jehovah's Witnesses whom you all believe are spiritually blind?

jesusjnr:
I truly think though that there are some areas that the church would do well to EMULATE the Jehovah Witnesses for not all about them is bad.

@Maximus,
Can you now see for yourself that they're not rightly disposed?

They claim to be Christians, jesusjnr even said the Church is DEAD and now the Church{Jesus' Witnesses} should EMULATE Jehovah's Witnesses{Cultists}

Please what else remains than to say publicly "we're just deceiving ourselves, we all know where to find the light!"

I just finished talking to my JW neighbour. He had his 4yr old son with him and was complaining how troublesome he and his 7yr old twin brothers are and only their 16yr older brother is well behaved. All seem full of energy.

I told him they are God's blessings on the path laid out to the greatness decreed for them when they were in their mother's womb. But he complained how tiring they can be.

I asked for the 4yr old's name, and it turned out to be Wisdom. I looked at my neighbour and said, "the name chosen for him before he was born", and returned to finish my lunch of toast, two eggs and a cup of coffee!

TATIME:

@Maximus,
Can you now see for yourself that they're not rightly disposed?

They claim to be Christians, jesusjnr even said the Church is DEAD and now the Church{Jesus' Witnesses} should EMULATE Jehovah's Witnesses{Cultists}

Please what else remains than to say publicly "we're just deceiving ourselves, we all know where to find the light!"

Hmmm, You're right Sir, they can settle for anything but the truth my brother!

Maximus69:
Ask jesusjnr who said 'there are GOOD things to EMULATE from Jehovah's Witnesses'!
I'm sure he couldn't have seen anything if the JWs are in the same condition with all others whom he is advising to emulate good things that all of them can SEE amongst Jehovah's Witnesses!

You are the light of the world, a city built on the hill can not be hidden! Matthew 5:14-16

Meanwhile jesusjnr already said 'The Church is DEAD' an indication that there is NOTHING worth EMULATING in the Churches, so if he now says the DEAD should emulate a GROUP globally known, please what else do want Jesus to tell you?

Why not direct him to any other GROUP that's dwelling in the light if you're so sure that they're truly for Jesus{the light}?

Maximus69: Meanwhile jesusjnr already said 'The Church is DEAD'

Achorladey: After reading jesusjnr right up on that you cannot glean the sense he is trying to make and you can't see the reason for the title of the THREAD.

Because he used "CHURCHES" it means the JWS are not included therefore the need for the CHURHES to come and learn from the GROUP aka JWs. Hahahahahaha.

I am not even aware of the thread, now that you have referenced it, I took time to check and this is what I find....... jesusjnr was trying to emphasize why the CHURCH has lost its taste and he stated the reason even going further by stating the churches as its constituted today is at the mercy and at the power of MEN and trampled under the feet of MEN.

You know why?

Just look at your friends response above......"the church (Jesus witnesses)".

please do ask him is there anything bad in being a "JESUS WITNESSES". Do you witness about JESUS? The great commission given by CHRIST was to WITNESS about WHO?

Should tell you what jesusjnr was thinking when he said the CHURCH is DEAD.

TATIME:

@Maximus,
Can you now see for yourself that they're not rightly disposed?

They claim to be Christians, jesusjnr even said the Church is DEAD and now the Church{Jesus' Witnesses} should EMULATE Jehovah's Witnesses{Cultists}

Please what else remains than to say publicly "we're just deceiving ourselves, we all know where to find the light!"

Of course it wouldn't be tatime if it's not lies, for tatime show me when I said the church should emulate the Jehovah Witnesses.

You're proving me right by the minute that Jehovah Witnesses are a bunch of liars pushing forward a false doctrine.

Yeah I said the Church is dead and that includes the Jehovah Witnesses which is also part of the dead Church, for look at your doctrine for example or even your name it wouldn't have stood when the church was alive in those days when Jesus first founded it with Jesus Witnesses.

achorladey:


Maximus69: Meanwhile jesusjnr already said 'The Church is DEAD'

Achorladey: After reading jesusjnr right up on that you cannot glean the sense he is trying to make and you can't see the reason for the title of the THREAD.

Because he used "CHURCHES" it means the JWS are not included therefore the need for the CHURHES to come and learn from the GROUP aka JWs. Hahahahahaha.

I am not even aware of the thread, now that you have referenced it, I took time to check and this is what I find....... jesusjnr was trying to emphasize why the CHURCH has lost its taste and he stated the reason even going further by stating the churches as its constituted today is at the mercy and at the power of MEN and trampled under the feet of MEN.

You know why?

Just look at your friends response above......"the church (Jesus witnesses)".

please do ask him is there anything bad in being a "JESUS WITNESSES". Do you witness about JESUS? The great commission given by CHRIST was to WITNESS about WHO?

Should tell you what jesusjnr is thinking when he said the CHURCH is DEAD.

You seem to know what was already in my mind, for I had finished typing my response to tatime's lies when I saw your response and it corresponded.

Speaking of being in the Spirit.

Maximus69:
Please jesusjnr, can you just post excerpts from that your thread titled 'The Church is DEAD' perhaps your friends could learn some good things about the Church instead of looking forward to EMULATING Jehovah's Witnesses whom you all believe are spiritually blind?

Of course!

The Jehovah Witnesses are an integral part of the dead church.

Maybe the dead church would have been more alive if not for the contribution of the highly flawed doctrine of the Jehovah Witnesses.

Maximus69:
Apostate, so you still remain a spiritual fugitive of the none denominational refugees!

The spiritual war disrupting their high places {Churches} has rendered many of them homeless as in refugees from different devastated cities! They now lack confidence in their so called Pastors, GOs and so on due to betrayal of trust!

Jehovah's Witnesses are dwelling peacefully in our spiritual mountain that's unreachably too high for unbelievers to dwell! Isaiah 2:2

Sorry is you name!

That's how you people will be perambulating without addressing the main issue.

If the name CHRISTIAN has been tarnished or suddenly overtaken by Satan as you people always say, why is your organization still using the name CHRISTIAN?

That's the point!

You can eat your cake and also have it.

You can tell us how a name has been corrupted yet still associating with the same name.

Maximus69:

All you need is to look very CAREFULLY before leaping! Act 17:11

All what you think you know about Jesus, Christ and Christianity is NOT true!
Satan has polluted everything the churches are practicing with indoctrination, that is why they can NEVER bear any FRUIT befitting what is is to be called TRUE FAITH! Matthew 7:15-20
You yourself said 'The Church is DEAD'. Of course God's work can never die, because he is a living God { Hebrew 12:22} and {according to his son} he has kept working until now! John 5:17

Did Satan also pollute Jesus and His gospel that you're still quoting because that's what i'm hinging this on, Jesus and His Words.

Because if Satan didn't pollute Jesus and His Words, then why are you not bearing witness unto Him but unto Jehovah Witnesses?

Such highly flawed doctrines of the Jehovah Witnesses is a part of what killed the church, because it is without savor, and the life of the salt is in its savor.

Maximus69:


Part of his works are the changes you're seeing in the activities and beliefs of Jehovah's Witnesses, as the true God is using his only begotten son JESUS {who is now ruling as a king from heaven} to correct all the misconceptions that Satan impacted in the minds of people regarding the group name "Jesus' Witnesses" {Christians}!

So why have you continued to dodge the question when God changed the name to Jehovah witnesses from Jesus witnesses?

For you cannot lay claim to someone whose instructions you despise, for you keep saying satan did this, did that, or has Jesus become satan?

Because you are not witnessing Jesus or His doctrine but that of Jehovah Witnesses.

Maximus69:


So you only need to believe in God's ability to correct his people after Satan have confused them with his agents operating everywhere! When Jesus arrived in the flesh back during the first century, Satan has turned the worship of the Jews into something else.

That is why Jesus could say {after considering Satan's ability to manipulate things} 'if i return, will i still meet this faith the way i laid it down?' Luke 18:8

Jesus arrived in the flesh and supposedly met your group ans yet you are not His witnesses, Lol!

You are witnessing lies.

jesusjnr:
Of course!

The Jehovah Witnesses are an integral part of the dead church.

Maybe the dead church would have been more alive if not for the contribution of the highly flawed doctrine of the Jehovah Witnesses.

A city that is set on a hill can not be hidden! Matthew 5:14

So the case is settled. Instead of emulating the citizens dwelling in the light, why not just move up to the mountain of Jehovah {Micah 4:1} to dwell in the light? Matthew 5:14

You can say the JW organization is also part of the church that is DEAD yet you're seeing ACTIVITIES worth EMULATING in nowhere else but within the JW organization! 1Peter 2:12
Jehovah's Witnesses, thank you o!

jesusjnr:
Did Satan also pollute Jesus and His gospel that you're still quoting because that's what i'm hinging this on, Jesus and His Words.
Because if Satan didn't pollute Jesus and His Words, then why are you not bearing witness unto Him but unto Jehovah Witnesses?
Such highly flawed doctrines of the Jehovah Witnesses is a part of what killed the church, because it is without savor, and the life of the salt is in its savor.

Jesus answered this question by saying 'if i return, will i still find faith on earth?' Luke 18:8
Of course he was considering the effect of the weeds Satan planted during the second century! Matthew 13:25

That was what led to the DEATH of the Church until Jesus returned during the 20th century and discovered a group of Bible students ever willing to make amendments in their beliefs.
So Jesus started directing their affairs until today, the name Jehovah's Witnesses was divinely given the group in 1931, ever since Jesus started dealing with the group as a spirit counselor, there came to be a great change. Isaiah 65:15
That is why you're feeling like EMULATING us because Jesus{the light} is dealing with no other group today but the one and only organization{ John 12:35-36} that's why we're beating all of you hands down respecting virtuous works! James 2:18-26

Emusan:

That's how you people will be perambulating without addressing the main issue.
If the name CHRISTIAN has been tarnished or suddenly overtaken by Satan as you people always say, why is your organization still using the name CHRISTIAN?
That's the point!
You can eat your cake and also have it.
You can tell us how a name has been corrupted yet still associating with the same name.

Hmmm, so you're a member of the DEAD Churches!

Sorry Sir, Lazarus will NEVER cool your tongue with water {Luke 16:24-26} since you've joined your tormented brothers to keep deceiving yourselves! Luke 16:28

So keep gnashing your teeth in agony Sir, we can not stop speaking of what we have seen and heard. Act 4 :20
America declared FREEDOM of SPEECH, EXPRESSION and WORSHIP {association}
You too are FREE to go out there and start declaring whatever you know, no wahala!
Unless you have NOTHING to offer! Psalms 115:4-8

jesusjnr:
Did Satan also pollute Jesus and His gospel that you're still quoting because that's what i'm hinging this on, Jesus and His Words.

The answer to the first is a likely yes. Satan did [url=https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+4%3A1-11&version=NIV]try[/url] to "pollute Jesus" and it's very likely satan succeeded in polluting His gospel, at least when we consider the various versions and understandings that exist. It would be very wrong to think satan would not have suceeded in some cases considering the fact that satan began work very early and never tires nor rests.

You are wrong about the "still quoting" bit however, since JWs quote from their own New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures, a point I have not found mentioned by any JW on here yet, even though it is claimed to be an improvement on previous translations.

budaatum:

The answer to the first is a likely yes. Satan did [url=https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+4%3A1-11&version=NIV]try[/url] to "pollute Jesus" and it's very likely satan succeeded in polluting His gospel, at least when we consider the various versions and understandings that exist. It would be very wrong to think satan would not have suceeded in some cases considering the fact that satan began work very early and never tires nor rests.

You are wrong about the "still quoting" bit however, since JWs quote from their own New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures, a point I have not found mentioned by any JW on here yet, even though it is claimed to be an improvement on previous translations.

They're agitating in agony since they can't accept the truth!

You're 100% right buda, Satan actually attempted polluting Jesus! Luke 4:2-13
These are atheists in disguise claiming Christians, so even if you show them in black and white they will still come back to tell you Jesus never came in the flesh!
Whereas what made it possible for Satan to overthrow any of his victims is their fleshly desires.
Since Jesus has returned in the spirit as a king, he has been monitoring his group so that Satan can't overthrow it anymore the way he did in the second century replacing it with the Pagan Roman worship called Catholic Church!

budaatum:

You are wrong about the "still quoting" bit however, since JWs quote from their own New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures, a point I have not found mentioned by any JW on here yet, even though it is claimed to be an improvement on previous translations.

Jesus is working and making remarkable improvements within our organization, that is why the NWT needed to be revised!
Whenever we quote the scripture for them, they're puzzled because the interpretation we give it will totally differ from what they think they know.
So what is killing them alive now?
Our applications works perfectly in our midst but there is none of there doctrines that's working anything fine {Matthew 7:15-20} so they concluded 'none denomination' Meaning there is none of their doctrines that's working out! James 2:18-26

Maximus69:


Jesus answered this question by saying 'if i return, will i still find faith on earth?' Luke 18:8
Of course he was considering the effect of the weeds Satan planted during the second century! Matthew 13:25

That was what led to the DEATH of the Church until Jesus returned during the 20th century and discovered a group of Bible students ever willing to make amendments in their beliefs.
So Jesus started directing their affairs until today, the name Jehovah's Witnesses was divinely given the group in 1931, ever since Jesus started dealing with the group as a spirit counselor, there came to be a great change. Isaiah 65:15
That is why you're feeling like EMULATING us because Jesus{the light} is dealing with no other group today but the one and only organization{ John 12:35-36} that's why we're beating all of you hands down respecting virtuous works! James 2:18-26

Maximus69: Jesus answered this question by saying 'if i return, will i still find faith on earth?' Luke 18:8

Achorladey: You cited a verse to fit whatever you want. Had you read Luke 18: 1-7 you would have seen what FAITH JESUS was talking about when using the ILLUSTRATION in Luke 18: 1-7

The word "faith" is sometimes taken to denote the "whole" of religion, and it has been understood in this sense here; but there is a close connection in what Christ says, and it should be understood as referring to what he said before. The TRUTH that he had been TEACHING was, that GOD would DELIVER his PEOPLE from their CALAMITIES and SAVE them, though he SUFFERED them to be long tried. HE ASKS them here whether, WHEN HE CAME, he should FIND "THIS FAITH," or a belief of "THIS TRUTH," among his FOLLOWERS? Would they be found PERSEVERING in PRAYER, and "BELIEVING" that GOD would YET AVENGE THEM; or would they CEASE to PRAY "always, and FAINT?"

Go back and read the illustration then see the conclusion Jesus Christ drew from it.

To help you out a bit.........


Luke 18:1........Then he went on to tell them AN ILLUSTRATION about the need for them always to PRAY and not to GIVE UP

Matthew 13: 24......He presented ANOTHER ILLUSTRATION to them, saying: “THE KINGDOM of the HEAVENS may be likened to a man who sowed fine seed in his field

Two DIFFERENT ILLUSTRATION with different CONCLUSION.

Maximus69: Of course he was considering the effect of the weeds Satan planted during the second century! Matthew 13:25

Achorladey: That is even if the ILLUSTRATIONS under consideration relates.


Since you cited chapter Luke 18: wouldn't it be nice to look at the next ILLUSTRATION written from that verse here it is below....

9 Jesus also told this parable to some who WERE CONFIDENT THAT THEY were RIGHTEOUS and LOOKED DOWN on EVERYONE ELSE.10 “Two men went up to the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector. 11 The Pharisee stood and prayed about himself like this: ‘God, I thank you that I am not like other people: extortionists, unrighteous people, adulterers—or even like this tax collector. 12 I fast twice a week; I give a tenth of everything I get.’ 13 The tax collector, however, stood far off and would not even look up to heaven, but beat his breast and said, ‘GOD, BE MERCIFUL to ME, SINNER THAT I AM!’ 14 I tell you that this man went down to his home justified rather than the Pharisee. For everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, but he who humbles himself will be exalted.”

The post below this talks about "CONDEMNING PEOPLE YOU LOVE TO HATE". Try do the CORRELATION.

alBHAGDADI:



Laughing @God suddenly changed...




Yeye dey smell.


He says they are Jehovah's witnesses but they can't show us where they witnessed Jehovah changing the name of his people.

That makes them Jehovah's False Witnesses

My brother Maximus69 has just ''SUDDENLY'' got himself roped, and he's trying to get out of the webs of confusion he dragged himself into as a result of his holier-than-attitude he must be sweating profusely for the blunder he's made by saying ''GOD SUDDENLY CHANGED bcs the so called Jesus witnesses are false.

Anyways let me help him out here:

Isaiah 43:10 KJV
Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.

Instead for maximus69 to go to the bible and show us ,maybe where the name was taken from and tell us it's just a denominational name, all he did was to start condemning the people they love to hate, and then made the greatest blunder I've ever seen. ''GOD SUDDENLY CHANGED''.

Maximus69:
That's thoughtful of you Sir!
So you think the demons shouting 'you're the son of God' while Jesus was preaching and teaching were doing something good? Luke 4:34

Well listen to what a TRUE Christian have to say about that Sir.
Jesus refused to tell people directly about his identity {Matthew 16:20}
He said he has come to do EXACTLY has his father instructed {John 8:28}
He said whoever goes contrary to his father's order is of the devil {John 8:44}

Jesus Himself also told people that He was the Son of God that they even wanted to stone Him for that(John 10:30-39).

So are you saying that Jesus was a devil?

For when you say Jesus is the Son of God and it's a good thing. I say Jesus is the Son of God and it's a good thing. The disciples of Jesus say Jesus is the Son of God and it's a good thing. And Jesus say He is the Son of God, it is still a good thing.

Why would the devils say Jesus is the Son of God and it would not be a good thing?

Is it because they are devils, or that what they said is not the truth?

I think you Jehovah Witnesses can even learn from the devils who were Jesus witnesses on that occasion, for they were obedient to Jesus and did what He said.

For you are behaving like those Jews that wanted to stone Jesus for saying that He was the Son of God like those devils had said concerning Him.

For imagine that those Jews had learnt that good thing and truth from the devils that Jesus was the Son of God, they wouldn't have picked up stones to throw at Him for saying the truth.

And also if they had also learnt how to obey Jesus Words like the devils did when Jesus commanded them to come out, they would have been Jesus disciples.

So Jehovah Witnesses can also learn from those devils how to be Jesus Witnesses and to obey His commandments, for if the JWs did that they would be true Jesus disciples and not the false ones as they are today.

Maximus69:

Now how is it a good thing to be doing the EXACT opposite of what Jesus{who speaks according to his father's order} says?

It's a good thing because Jesus is the Son of God, and Jesus Himself did it.

So you can emulate that aspect of the devils.

Maximus69:

For your information, those demons are trying to awaking their agents who detests anyone having special divine approval {Genesis 4:2-8} that these are those they must attack! Matthew 26:63-68,Act 16:16-22

Lolz!

What would someone not hear from the mouth of a JW to justify their lies?

The devils trying to instigate an attack by saying the Truth that Jesus is the Son of God?

Maybe the devils also obeying the command of Jesus by coming out of those demon possessed was another way to instigate an attack. SMH

Maximus69:

So instead of arguing against the will of God, listen attentively to true Christians, please know today {if you're still doubting} that there is nothing as in NOTHING good in Satan, demons and their human agents, and most importantly whatever Jesus say 'don't do'! Luke 9:21

God bless you!

I said it, the highly flawed doctrine of the Jehovah Witnesses is the Will of God.

If there's nothing good in devils saying the Truth that Jesus is the Son of God, and obeying the command of Jesus in that instance, for the Jehovah Witnesses to learn from and emulate, then there's also nothing good in the Jehovah Witnesses worth emulating.

jesusjnr:
Jesus said to His disciples:

Acts 1:7-8 (KJV)

7 And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power.
8 But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.

Now Jesus in clear terms told His disciples they would be His witnesses, so how come you who call themselves "Jehovah Witnesses" instead of "Jesus Witnesses" claim to be the disciples of Jesus that Jesus gave this instruction?

You ought to come and explain this contradiction, because it seems there's something you aren't telling us by the name you chose to be called alone, for the name Jehovah Witnesses suggest that you are more Judaists(Moses disciples) than Jesus disciples.

And this reflects In your doctrines for despite that you come In the Jesus disciples clothings, your doctrine gives you away as the otherwise, for instead of emphasizing the following of Jesus and His teachings as the true disciples of Jesus should, you emphasize the following of Jehovah Witnesses and the importance of becoming a member of your group as though that determines who is saved or not saved.

But it's not far-fetched for already going by the name "Jehovah Witnesses" you are not following the instructions of Jesus to His disciples who He said would be His witnesses, and perhaps you feel that Jesus is not worthy to be witnessed.

So you have the opportunity to defend your choice of the name "Jehovah Witnesses" instead of "Jesus Witnesses", if you indeed be true disciples of Jesus.

Thank you.

FLAWED POST twisting the truth.
Jesus is Jehovah's messenger," What I teach is not mine,it comes from him who sent me" ,(John7:16).

** Jesus is Jehovah's servant (Acts3:13).
Jesus is in agreement with his Father's message(John 12:44,45,49,50). Likewise, every true disciple agrees with Jehovah's message. To witness for Jesus in Acts1:8 means to preach to people of the world that what Jesus taught about his Father is the whole truth (John 15:15. 17:17).

#### (jesusjnr is NOT in agreement with Jehovah's message, else no need for this your pointless ,flawed post .).
** Jesus is a faithful witness for his Father (Rev 3:14), Jesus a Jehovah's witness.
Jehovah decreed His servants are His witnesses, in other words, " Jehovah's witnesses". Isaiah 43:10-13.
Confirmation that Jesus is a Jehovah's witness (Acts3:13.)
If you don't believe in Jehovah's words (Isaiah 43:10-13. John17:17) ,your claims that you believe in Jesus is mere fiction (John 12:44,45).

Jesus preached the good news of God's kingdom, Mark 1:14,15.
** Jesus commands his disciples to preach the good news of his Father's kingdom (Mark 13:10, Matt 24:14).
By faith , God fearing men of old, witnessed for Jehovah. Hebrews 11:1-39. 12:1,2.
Jesus is our Master we look up to. Heb12:2.

Jesus the servant is not the owner of the message he was sent to preach. John7:16. 4:34.
Jesus is a Jehovah's witness, every disciple must be a Jehovah's witness Or you're a lying Pharisee (Matt 5:20)
That's the gospel truth.

** NB
You may come to NL and claim that JWs said stuff in the past that never came true.
Is that worse than apostle Peter who korokoro denied Jesus his Master before the crowd?

Maximus69:

Faith is the assured expectation of things hoped for,the evident DEMONSTRATION of realities you're yet seeing! Hebrew 11:1


Make sure you EMULATE Sir!

NOT just what you can see but what you can't see now, which is our teachings that's energising Jehovah's Witnesses globally to PRODUCE what you really wish to EMULATE! 1Peter 2:12

God bless you!

So are you saying that it was by faith that you believed that God changed the name of the Jesus witnesses to Jehovah witnesses?

Because i asked you to provide when that took place, and all you are providing is faith is the evidence of things not seen.

So maybe you have no proof of when that change took place, but you only have proof by faith?

jesusjnr:
So are you saying that it was by faith that you believed that God changed the name of the Jesus witnesses to Jehovah witnesses?

Because i asked you to provide when that took place, and all you are providing is faith is the evidence of things not seen.

So maybe you have no proof of when that change took place, but you only have proof by faith?

Whatever Sir, WHATEVER!
As long as you're able to see reasons to EMULATE fine qualities in JWs, the case is closed! 1Peter 2:12

Maximus69:
Hmmm, so you're a member of the DEAD Churches!

Sorry Sir, Lazarus will NEVER cool your tongue with water {Luke 16:24-26} since you've joined your tormented brothers to keep deceiving yourselves! Luke 16:28

So keep gnashing your teeth in agony Sir, we can not stop speaking of what we have seen and heard. Act 4 :20
America declared FREEDOM of SPEECH, EXPRESSION and WORSHIP {association}
You too are FREE to go out there and start declaring whatever you know, no wahala!
Unless you have NOTHING to offer! Psalms 115:4-8

As usual, always attacking a straw man.

You people will say the name CHRISTIAN has been corrupted or hijacked by the devil yet your organization can't do without referencIng the Name or apply it to themselves whenever it suits them.

That's delusion...and double standard!

You lied that God changed the name from Jesus witness to Jehovah witness without scriptural evidence, whereas your organization didn't say God changed the name but they ADOPTED the name.

Meanwhile, the truth from the Holy scripture is that:
1. The Father Himself witnesses about His Son
2. The Holy Spirit witnesses about The Son
3. The Apostles witnessed about Christ
4. Christ Himself commanded all His followers to bear witness of Him.

Only your organization goes against the writing of the scripture by creating commandment for themselves.

Samunique:


My brother Maximus69 has just ''SUDDENLY'' got himself roped, and he's trying to get out of the webs of confusion he dragged himself into as a result of his holier-than-attitude he must be sweating profusely for the blunder he's made by saying ''GOD SUDDENLY CHANGED bcs the so called Jesus witnesses are false.

Anyways let me help him out here:

Isaiah 43:10 KJV
Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.

Instead for maximus69 to go to the bible and show us ,maybe where the name was taken from and tell us it's just a denominational name, all he did was to start condemning the people they love to hate, and then made the greatest blunder I've ever seen. ''GOD SUDDENLY CHANGED''.

GOD SUDDENLY CHANGED the name of his own servants from what is common and that has become a curse to another that's strange to all critics! Isaiah 65:15

So while all members of the DEAD CHURCH are struggling for a way out of their quagmire, JEHOVAH SUDDENLY CHANGED the name of his own servants so that all of you were caught unaware!

We are Jehovah's Witnesses from Abel till date, even Jesus himself is one of Jehovah's Witnesses! Revelation 1:5

God bless you Sir!

Maximus69:

A city that is set on a hill can not be hidden! Matthew 5:14

So the case is settled. Instead of emulating the citizens dwelling in the light, why not just move up to the mountain of Jehovah {Micah 4:1} to dwell in the light? Matthew 5:14

You can say the JW organization is also part of the church that is DEAD yet you're seeing ACTIVITIES worth EMULATING in nowhere else but within the JW organization! 1Peter 2:12
Jehovah's Witnesses, thank you o!

I have a question for you but please don't dodge this one as you had done with the one of when the change took place from Jesus witnesses to Jehovah witnesses.

Is there any member of the Jehovah witnesses that is not going to be saved?

Maximus69:
Whatever Sir, WHATEVER!
As long as you're able to see reasons to EMULATE fine qualities in JWs, the case is closed! 1Peter 2:12

I wouldn't see any fine qualities JWs if the you a JW don't see any in the devils who said Jesus was the Son of God, and obeyed His command, for if you can't emulate them in that respect and bear witness of Jesus, and obey His command as they did because they are devils, then you can't ask me to emulate anything good thing of your highly flawed doctrines and ways because you are a JW.

BTW I have Jesus as a perfect example so don't need those that are highly flawed, for those could only apply when the better options are not available.

Emusan:


As usual, always attacking a straw man.



You lied that God changed the name from Jesus witness to Jehovah witness without scriptural evidence, whereas your organization didn't say God changed the name but they ADOPTED the name.

Meanwhile, the truth from the Holy scripture is that:
1. The Father Himself witnesses about His Son
2. The Holy Spirit witnesses about The Son
3. The Apostles witnessed about Christ
4. Christ Himself commanded all His followers to bear witness of Him.

Only your organization goes against the writing of the scripture by creating commandment for themselves.

The words of Jesus flaws your fictitious claims. John 7:16. 17:17.
Jesus is Jehovah's servant. Acts 3:13. Rev3:5,21. John20:17.

Jehovah decreed that his servants are Jehovah's witnesses, his servants.
Isaiah 43:10-13.
Jesus is a Jehovah's witness Rev3:14. Acts3:13.
Jesus says the words of his God and Father is the truth. John17:17.
That is what Jesus taught (.John15:15) because he is in agreement with his Father, Jehovah (John 12:49,50).
If you're in agreement with Jesus, you are to witness (preach) that what Jesus taught about his Father is the truth.
If you get sense, you should know that no messenger is superior to his Boss who sent him (John7:16. 4:34 dey your bible oh lying Pharisee... abi you done tear am ? I no trust you at all ! Lol).
No Pharisee wants to hear that, Emusan doesn't want it.

Emusan:



You lied that God changed the name from Jesus witness to Jehovah witness without scriptural evidence, whereas your organization didn't say God changed the name but they ADOPTED the name.

Meanwhile, the truth from the Holy scripture is that:
1. The Father Himself witnesses about His Son
2. The Holy Spirit witnesses about The Son
3. The Apostles witnessed about Christ
4. Christ Himself commanded all His followers to bear witness of Him.

Only your organization goes against the writing of the scripture by creating commandment for themselves.

Jehovah's word is sacrosanct Number 23:19, John17:17. Isaiah 43:10-13.
The words of Jesus flaws your fictitious claims. John 7:16. 17:17.
Jesus is Jehovah's servant; a Jehovah's witness.
Acts 3:13. Rev3:5,14,21. John20:17.

Jehovah decreed that his servants are Jehovah's witnesses, his servants.
Isaiah 43:10-13.

Jesus says the words of his God and Father is the truth. John17:17.
That is what Jesus taught (.John15:15) because he is in agreement with his Father, Jehovah (John 12:49,50).
If you're in agreement with Jesus, you are to witness (preach) that what Jesus taught about his Father is the truth. Acts1:8. John7:16. 15:15.
If you get sense, you should know that no messenger is superior to his Boss who sent him (John7:16. 4:34 dey your bible oh lying Pharisee... abi you done tear am ? I no trust you at all ! Lol).
No Pharisee wants to hear that, Emusan doesn't want it.

jesusjnr:
I have a question for you but please don't dodge this one as you had done with the one of when the change took place from Jesus witnesses to Jehovah witnesses.

Is there any member of the Jehovah witnesses that is not going to be saved?

That's another fine question Sir!

As to when Jehovah changed the GROUP name of his faithful worshiper, i have quoted Isaiah 65:15 but it's not compulsory you agree with that!
¤When Jehovah said Elijah will prepare the way for the Messiah, he never told anyone he has change the name of the so called 'Elijah' to 'John' did he? Matthew 17:10-13
¤When he change the name 'Emmanuel' to 'Jesus' he never told anyone, did he? Isaiah 7:14,8:8

What then helped the honestherated ones to grasp what was happening? FAITH in God that he will always fulfill his words! So they kept studying every move and activities of each prophet! Matthew 16:16 compared to Deuteronomy 18:15-18
If you guys were Jesus' contemporaries it's evident that you will never agree that Jesus is the promised Emmanuel and that John is the promised Elijah. What you'll keep asking his disciples is 'show us from the scriptures when God changed those names!

Now your next question!

Nobody can enter into God's kingdom without the teachings of our GB! But that doesn't mean that it's all those attending our meetings will enter, because there are many who are just following but NOT whole heartedly! Mark 12:29-30

You can start arguing over this again but be rest assured that the fruit you dearly wish to see in those DEAD Churches are present in the midst of those thought by our GB, after all there is no scripture to show you that in later times those acting as Apostles will be called the 'Governing Body'.
So case is closed!

jesusjnr:
I wouldn't see any fine qualities JWs if the you a JW don't see any in the devils who said Jesus was the Son of God, and obeyed His command, for if you can't emulate them in that respect and bear witness of Jesus, and obey His command as they did because they are devils, then you can't ask me to emulate anything good thing of your highly flawed doctrines and ways because you are a JW.

BTW I have Jesus as a perfect example so don't need those that are highly flawed, for those could only apply when the better options are not available.

Great! So why not mention their group name for your friends to EMULATE them?

Maximus69:
GOD SUDDENLY CHANGED


We are Jehovah's Witnesses from Abel till date, even Jesus himself is one of Jehovah's Witnesses! Revelation 1:5

God bless you Sir!

Just listen to your self ?

God suddenly changed and yet u are Jehovah's witnesses from Adam till date

When did the sudden change occur and how did it occur ?

@Maximus69, I've gone through some of your posts on this forum concerning Christian faith, all I see is a man working hard to sell his so called perfect group/organization (JW ) instead of telling people of God's love and what He has done to save the mankind through His Son.

Maximus, if u care to listen , Jesus didn't send His disciples to go and witness for Jehovah His Father. Rather, He sent them to go and tell the world about the love of His father and what He has done to save them. John 3:13-21, Matt 28:18-19, Rom 5:8, 2Cor 5:91-21.

All I can understand from your numerous posts is that, your motive is wrong, you're just here to sell your JW, which you always refer to as perfect organization of God's people without the aim of preaching the gospel .

Brother, Jesus sent us to preach the gospel not denominations. As far as I'm concerned, your so called perfect organization of God's people ( JW ) is just a denomination, there's no where in the Bible where Jesus named His disciples ''Jehovah's witnesses.

For your information, ''Jehovah needs know further witness for His existence'' everything He's made is a witness to his existence .


Romans 1:19-20 KJV
Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them. [20] For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; n so that they are without excuse:

Go tell people about the love of Jehovah, which is the testimony of the crucifixion, death and resurrection of His for sinners to live.

This is one the reasons I don't like listening to JW , bcs they will come to u and start telling how others are not God's people, they are Babylon the great that they are the only ones doing God's will........ that is not the gospel.

Here's the gospel of Christ.................

John 3:16 KJV
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.