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Re: Have Women Lost Their Feminine Mystique? by bukatyne(op): 4:26pm On Jun 21, 2019
ThothHermes:
I don't know. It just is.

Nymphomania is a medical disorder. I've never seen a male nymphomaniac. grin
Satyriasis (also satyromania) is the corresponding condition to nymphomania in men.
https://www.google.com/search?ei=l_YMXd_QArqG1fAPo5OP0AY&q=a+male+version+of+nymphomanic+is&oq=a+male+version+of+nymphomanic+is&gs_l=psy-ab.3...3631.15285..15485...3.0..1.556.7444.0j17j15j1j0j1......0....1..gws-wiz.......0i131j0j0i22i30j33i22i29i30.hB3ecTI5-DI

Satyriasis - Urban Dictionary
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Satyriasis
Uncontrollable sexual desire in a man's behavior. ... But unfortunately there are some people--it is called satyriasis in men, nymphomania in women--who engage in it compulsively and without joy. ... The male version of a nympho.

Bed hopping is a sign of an underlying disorder in men or women.
Re: Have Women Lost Their Feminine Mystique? by bukatyne(op): 4:26pm On Jun 21, 2019
liberalchick:
It’s funny you used the word “slut” slut is a derogatory word used ONLY for women.
Give me a word that covers both
Re: Have Women Lost Their Feminine Mystique? by ThothHermes: 4:29pm On Jun 21, 2019
liberalchick:
lol how is it a lie when this is literally some people’s realities right now? Have you never heard of a man marrying a prostitute? Because it is not something you would do, doesn’t mean another man will not do it. The world is huge.
Pointing out exceptions is not a good way to advance your position.

It's only men with baggages of their own than marry prostitutes, pornstars, etc. There is always a compromise somewhere.
You WILL NEVER see a man who has everything going for him settle for those kinds of women.
NEVER!

Love dey see road. grin

Would you want your brother/son to marry such women?
There's your answer right there.
Re: Have Women Lost Their Feminine Mystique? by Omoluabi16(m): 4:31pm On Jun 21, 2019
liberalchick:
lol how is it a lie when this is literally some people’s realities right now? Have you never heard of a man marrying a prostitute? Because it is not something you would do, doesn’t mean another man will not do it. The world is huge.
Which man will marry a woman who actively has multiple partners? NONE. Turn the tables, women accept and live with polygamy. Women marry men with multiple sexual partners.Medieval, middle age and current times..it has always been the same.
Re: Have Women Lost Their Feminine Mystique? by Omoluabi16(m): 4:34pm On Jun 21, 2019
ThothHermes:
You WILL NEVER see a man who has everything going for him settle for those kinds of women
He doesn't have to even have anything going for him.No man will.
Re: Have Women Lost Their Feminine Mystique? by liberalchick(f): 4:34pm On Jun 21, 2019
I didn’t say while they are married, that’s cheating. In this big world we live in, men have and will continue to marry a woman that has had many sexual partners.

Omoluabi16:
Which man will marry a woman who actively has multiple partners? NONE. Turn the tables, women accept and live with polygamy. Women marry men with multiple sexual partners.Medieval, middle age and current times..it has always been the same.
Re: Have Women Lost Their Feminine Mystique? by liberalchick(f): 4:37pm On Jun 21, 2019
now you are moving the goal post. I didn’t argue the merits or demerits of it. Was just stating a fact.

The bolded is statistically inaccurate.

Yes.

ThothHermes:
Pointing out exceptions is not a good way to advance your position.

It's only men with baggages of their own than marry prostitutes, pornstars, etc. There is always a compromise somewhere.
You WILL NEVER see a man who has everything going for him settle for those kinds of women.
NEVER!


Love dey see road. grin

Would you want your brother/son to marry such women?
There's your answer right there.
Re: Have Women Lost Their Feminine Mystique? by ThothHermes: 4:39pm On Jun 21, 2019
bukatyne:
Satyriasis (also satyromania) is the corresponding condition to nymphomania in men.
https://www.google.com/search?ei=l_YMXd_QArqG1fAPo5OP0AY&q=a+male+version+of+nymphomanic+is&oq=a+male+version+of+nymphomanic+is&gs_l=psy-ab.3...3631.15285..15485...3.0..1.556.7444.0j17j15j1j0j1......0....1..gws-wiz.......0i131j0j0i22i30j33i22i29i30.hB3ecTI5-DI

Satyriasis - Urban Dictionary
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Satyriasis
Uncontrollable sexual desire in a man's behavior. ... But unfortunately there are some people--it is called satyriasis in men, nymphomania in women--who engage in it compulsively and without joy. ... The male version of a nympho.

Bed hopping is a sign of an underlying disorder in men or women.
Never seen a man suffering from this. I'm quite certain it's this politically correct people that have invented and classified it as a disorder. grin

A balancing act. Nothing like that.
Kai.
Re: Have Women Lost Their Feminine Mystique? by QueenSekxy(f): 4:40pm On Jun 21, 2019
bukatyne:
Hahahahaha.

Misandrists + Misogynists = Equality cheesy wink smiley
Lol. More grease
Re: Have Women Lost Their Feminine Mystique? by liberalchick(f): 4:42pm On Jun 21, 2019
That’s my point, if we have to search for a word that covers both, then that should tell you men and women are not judged equally as regards to promiscuity. More proof is on this thread.

bukatyne:
Give me a word that covers both
Re: Have Women Lost Their Feminine Mystique? by ThothHermes: 4:44pm On Jun 21, 2019
liberalchick:
now you are moving the goal post. I didn’t argue the merits or demerits of it. Was just stating a fact.

The bolded is statistically inaccurate.

Yes.
Kindly demonstrate this inaccuracy.

People have choices. But factors beyond their control might force to settle for less. Marrying such women is settling for less. As any unfortunate man in such a situation would agree. A woman with high body count is damaged goods.
Shikena.
Re: Have Women Lost Their Feminine Mystique? by QueenSekxy(f): 4:44pm On Jun 21, 2019
Omoluabi16:
Which man will marry a woman who actively has multiple partners? NONE. Turn the tables, women accept and live with polygamy. Women marry men with multiple sexual partners.Medieval, middle age and current times..it has always been the same.
What do you mean? Different rules/laws with different continent.

Have seen ladies marrying two/Three men. Even, I saw one on the news yesterday. It doesn't happen around you doesn't mean it ceases to exist. sad
Re: Have Women Lost Their Feminine Mystique? by Omoluabi16(m): 4:48pm On Jun 21, 2019
liberalchick:
I didn’t say while they are married, that’s cheating. In this big world we live in, men have and will continue to marry a woman that has had many sexual partners.
Your earlier statement did not indicate married or single. 'Has had' is acceptable, even though a few may disagree. In marriage, the woman ceases to have her numerous partners, while sometimes the men don't.
Cheating can happen in either marriage or relationship too.
Re: Have Women Lost Their Feminine Mystique? by desvi: 4:58pm On Jun 21, 2019
bukatyne:
You are not making sense.

You think multiple sexual experience is something to be proud of?

I see why desperation and mental disorders is on the rise.
You read that where?
Re: Have Women Lost Their Feminine Mystique? by Acidosis(m): 4:59pm On Jun 21, 2019
liberalchick:
That’s my point, if we have to search for a word that covers both, then that should tell you men and women are not judged equally as regards to promiscuity. More proof is on this thread.
Asides your quest for "liberation" or feminism, why would you want a man and a woman judged equally even when all biological and anatomical factors are against the woman??

So if I want to deliver a lecture on the menace and risk factors of abortion, pediatric pregnancy and fibroid, I must include men and spread the message equally across both gender?
Re: Have Women Lost Their Feminine Mystique? by desvi:
bukatyne:
Does this make sense to you?

Women have rights to their bodies, men don't have rights to their money

And it sounds like equality?

Are you willing to take responsibility for your poor decisions?
did you seriously think this argument made any sense at all? cheesy

they have a right to their sperm wink
nobody forces them to ejaculate inside of a woman and have unprotected s*ex
Re: Have Women Lost Their Feminine Mystique? by Omoluabi16(m): 5:01pm On Jun 21, 2019
QueenSekxy:
What do you mean? Different rules/laws with different continent.

Have seen ladies marrying two/Three men. Even, I saw one on the news yesterday. It doesn't happen around you doesn't mean it ceases to exist. sad
You mean on TLC, or those with their fetish? Of course we are back to the issue of morality and freedom.
Some schools now encourage their toddlers to identify as a non gender.
People now marry inanimate objects/
Some months ago, child sex dolls were on sale on Amazon. To reduce child rape, they said.
Do we go on about the Queers? Bdsm or Trans men insisting on female restrooms?
One can go on and on..but do you find them acceptable?
Re: Have Women Lost Their Feminine Mystique? by liberalchick(f):
Wow 13 pages?!! bukatyne, you should be a mod on this section. Just want to add, for what is worth, I don’t think you are a misogynist. I have read and liked some of your posts that called out sexist tropes.

So you have conservative values, which is absolutely fine. However, you tend to judge other women by those values. Some of those values exists because of sexism and I get why some will say that makes you a misogynist.

Also, because you live by certain codes doesn’t make you a good or a bad person. Where your conservative principles end is where some other woman’s will start. Imagine a much more conservative woman invalidating your values and tells you it is her’s you should live by.

Ideologies occur on a spectrum, let men and women choose where they want to stand.
Re: Have Women Lost Their Feminine Mystique? by desvi: 5:04pm On Jun 21, 2019
bukatyne:
If telling people (women in this case) to be moral is been radicalized, I will own that badge.

If you have gone through my threads in the past, this one should not surprise you.

And no, I have not changed Church.
you don't only tell women to be moral
(whatever that means from your subjective perspective)
you want to force your views on them
you are judgmental, self-righteous and patronizing
and to top it all you think you are saving Nigeria and compare yourself to Jesus cheesy
the only thing that is missing are the bombs
Isis-Bukky cheesy

You are the perfect case study for how radicalization develops
Re: Have Women Lost Their Feminine Mystique? by desvi: 5:05pm On Jun 21, 2019
bukatyne:
Well someone who loves sex with different partners is a slut.

Male or female.
so?
Re: Have Women Lost Their Feminine Mystique? by QueenSekxy(f): 5:06pm On Jun 21, 2019
Omoluabi16:
You mean on TLC, or those with their fetish? Of course we are back to the issue of morality and freedom.
Some schools now encourage their toddlers to identify as a non gender.
People now marry inanimate objects/
Some months ago, child sex dolls were on sale on Amazon. To reduce child rape, they said.
Do we go on about the Queers? Bdsm or Trans men insisting on female restrooms?
One can go on and on..but do you find them acceptable?
Because we are Africans; we wouldn't find them acceptable, and cos I'm a Christian, I will never find that acceptable. But those people doing it accepted and adopted it as their way of life. Lol, they wouldn't agree with some of your African/religious ways of life. So, it goes both ways IMO.
Re: Have Women Lost Their Feminine Mystique? by ThothHermes: 5:07pm On Jun 21, 2019
Acidosis:
Asides your quest for "liberation" or feminism, why would you want a man and a woman judged equally even when all biological and anatomical factors are against the woman??

So if I want to deliver a lecture on the menace and risk factors of abortion, pediatric pregnancy and fibroid, I must include men and spread the message equally across both gender?
She go jump and pass. Let's bet cheesy
Re: Have Women Lost Their Feminine Mystique? by desvi: 5:07pm On Jun 21, 2019
bukatyne:
In all religions, societies, customs, cultures and families,

Men want women as chaste as possible.

That is why an average woman would lie about her body count if high to a potential husband and every first sex encounter is a rape or forced.

The number of women who have claimed to be virgins while they are not is also enough to be reckoned with.
and yet Kim Kardashian who was sùcking díck on camera got married to a rich successful man who could have easily chosen ten virgins wink
Re: Have Women Lost Their Feminine Mystique? by desvi: 5:13pm On Jun 21, 2019
liberalchick:
That’s my point, if we have to search for a word that covers both, then that should tell you men and women are not judged equally as regards to promiscuity. More proof is on this thread.
obviously smiley
Re: Have Women Lost Their Feminine Mystique? by UjuJoan2: 5:19pm On Jun 21, 2019
People just want to put women in a box, and tell them what they can and can't do. But who is telling the men? undecided

Why are people willing to accept that chilvary is dead, and yet don't get that women are no longer 'blushing brides'huh

Modernization has changed the world . . . we need to get used to it and stop trying to take us back to the stone age.
Re: Have Women Lost Their Feminine Mystique? by Omoluabi16(m): 5:21pm On Jun 21, 2019
QueenSekxy:
Because we are Africans; we wouldn't find them acceptable, and cos I'm a Christian, I will never find that acceptable. But those people doing it accepted and adopted it as their way of life. Lol, they wouldn't agree with some of your African/religious ways of life. So, it goes both ways IMO.
The world is pandering to anything and everything. It is not really acceptable, but we are told to respect,accept and give people medals for their 'choices'. A great number of the western world reject this system, and some are cowed into acceptance. It isn't about Africa or not now, because and the unnatural is being made the new natural.
What is order without a system? None
Re: Have Women Lost Their Feminine Mystique? by Acidosis(m): 5:26pm On Jun 21, 2019
ThothHermes:
She go jump and pass. Let's bet cheesy
grin
Re: Have Women Lost Their Feminine Mystique? by djon78(m): 7:42pm On Jun 21, 2019
UjuJoan2:
People just want to put women in a box, and tell them what they can and can't do. But who is telling the men? undecided

Why are people willing to accept that chilvary is dead, and yet don't get that women are no longer 'blushing brides'huh

Modernization has changed the world . . . we need to get used to it and stop trying to take us back to the stone age.
Irrespective of all the argument here.
Men and women are not judged with the same yardstick. There are things a man will do and get away with it, woman can't.
So it is not about putting women in a box.
Moreover this is Africa, where culture still reigns supreme. Example gay rights, acknowledgment, and acceptance is still shunned completely in this continent.
In addition very many Africans are still unexposed. Very few are even connected to the internet. Example during present presidential election, the main party were telling us social media don't win election, because ignorance, still abounds plenty.

It is just very few significant part of the population that has a bit of enlightenment. With all these gender movements, very many women I meet on daily basis are still submitted to our cultures and norms. Even many young women of this present generation too.

Modernisation will definitely come in little by little but it will take many generations ahead for it to be.

So the Op is right in her submission.
The truth is that men have always been wayward, but women have been the calming effect to morality in the society. But when women now champion waywardness then there is no hope for that society.
You may point Western world, but there society is declining small small. I have read a lot of research where Western societies are being warned of the dangers ahead.
And finally the best model for emulation is even Asian societies. They have never allowed western culture to override there own. They are still highly developed, advanced but still very disciplined people. That's why countries like Japan, South Korea, Singapore, Taiwan, hong kong , even Arabs like Dubai, Qatar, have outstanding quality of human life like western countries but sound cultural balance. These countries should really be the role model Africa should copy. But if Africa continue to copy the West, development, advancement will be far away from us, this continent will continue to perpetuate in misery, backwardness and poverty.
Re: Have Women Lost Their Feminine Mystique? by AmazonTopaz(f): 8:01pm On Jun 21, 2019
@djon78,
Why should women alone be the upholders of the so called morality that is double standard men should be held accountable for their irresponsibilty and not given a way pass.
Why hold and judge women alone if you fail to hold the men no need holding women. It is better that both genders are immoral than only one gender having to be the upholder of the so called morality.

No need to preach this is Africa, Africa is not the only continent with culture and besides what has the "this is Africa"phrase done for us has it helped us with good leaders, good economy, stable power supply good roads and what have you.
Stop focusing on the negative of the west alone because even your so called africa and all it's values is nothing to write home about.
Re: Have Women Lost Their Feminine Mystique? by yeyeosoronga:
truthsayer009:
NO. Lack of knowledge is different from Forced. They behaved that way because they believed It is the right way to behave.
Ever wondered why all our parents think the same? Because they believe It is the right way to think.
Majority were shamed or threatened to behave that way. Some cultures till now still kill their women for something as trivial as not wearing socks and allowing the wind to blow their abaya/ bou bou up. Honor killing is still very rife in 2019, and even in civilised countries like the UK.
Many guys are really oblivious of the challenges women face worldwide.
Re: Have Women Lost Their Feminine Mystique? by AmazonTopaz(f): 8:05pm On Jun 21, 2019
Omoluabi16:
The world is pandering to anything and everything. It is not really acceptable, but we are told to respect,accept and give people medals for their 'choices'. A great number of the western world reject this system, and some are cowed into acceptance. It isn't about Africa or not now, because and the unnatural is being made the new natural.
What is order without a system? None
Smell the coffee times change and things evolve.
What was considered abnormal in the 20th century is the new normal in the 21st century sameway what is considered abnormal now would become the new normal in years to come.
That is life times evolve and things changes.
We would all die and leave the earth and people would be born and bring in new ideas which we now would call an abnormality.
Re: Have Women Lost Their Feminine Mystique? by yeyeosoronga: 8:13pm On Jun 21, 2019
crackhaus,
You need to be objective. You're trying to compare the successes of men generally to women when women have just been given the opportunity to start achieving things. The men had centuries of a head start and yet you expect women to have caught up with them.
Women haven't done too badly at all considering the various challenges and obstacles before them including the various retrogressive cultures which still exist in majority of countries.
You say it's only the bad things men do women are trying to copy, not true. All they want is to be judged same way as men. If those things were truly bad, why haven't the men in power stopped them? Even in a society like US, women were just allowed to vote in 1920 or so. The first ever vote held in US was in 1789. Only CENTURIES afterwards were their women allowed to vote. Please you too reason am na. They're not doing badly at all catching up with the men.
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