Shepherd00:
Are you changing your words about what you said Arsenokoites was?

You dont know this, but you are more confused than a fart let ripped out, on the production line, inside a fan-making factory

Shepherd00:
Didn't you say it was wrongly used to demonize SS people?

The church and people like you, have used one word, an aspect of homosexuality to cover all cases of homosexuality, knowing fully well that the term "arsenokoites" does not tie-up with SS people living and enjoying a strictly monogamous SSA relationship lifestyle. It is chalk and cheese, the two instances are different.

It is glaring, except if in denial, and this now, is talking of certain posters on this thread, the likes of TV0.1 in particular, then Shepherd00, open.mine, O.kCornel, b.loodofthelamb, solite.3, jesus.jnr, elated.177, Ranch.hoddas, Thoth.Hermes, a.lBHAGDADI etcetera, what the true and original meaning of "porneia" and Paul's "arsenokoites" used in 1 Timothy 1:10 and and 1 Corinthians 6:9 is, before each were being translated to mean "homosexual" or homosexual acts and used to demonise, discriminate and persecute SSA persons. They even lied and translated "qadesh" and/or a sodomite too, mentioned above, to in every respect, mean an ordinary SSA person, "homosexual" or homosexual act.

The above paragraph is an excerpt from the post you have everything mixed up and confused from.

Shepherd00:
You said Categorically that, even a certain Pastor Artur something, haven really looked into the terms agreed that Apst Paul wasn't talking about homosexuality or men sexing men, but temple Prostitution.
You gave the time when you believed the translation was changed to homosexuality.

Look at Romans Chapter 1 now, read it contextually.

If you do, then you'll know that Romans 1:26-28, is Apostle Paul talking of straight males who were sexing other men in their cults which is unnatural to them because they arent sexually attracted to men, but just doing it for pagan religious reasons or forced into doing merely for financial gains

Romans 1:25-27, Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13 are caught up in deeper meanings that when properly and correctly studied gives one abetter and right understanding of the passages

Shepherd00, come here, come closer, let me lean forward and say this in your ear, if you're reading Bible in translation(s), you can bet your bottom dollar that a very good 90% of the real and original bible meanings are bungled, botched, twisted and/or fouled up. So what's the remedy for this? How does one counteract and fix this Shepherd00? Well whenever you read and study Bible, you first have to find out the "whys", if not, then, you don't know the meaning of the "whats" you have in front of you. Romans 1:25-27, Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13 are good case in points of this.

Shepherd00:
You accused Apst Paul of changing the term and made it look like God was against homosex when in fact, He isn't.

Now I know, you don kolo, add put to your ignorance and your mumu has upgraded to part 2. You've wrongly been think about what I typed too much and for too long, now you've ended tying yourself up in knots, from trying too hard to understand all I've typed. What Apostle Paul wrote in Romans 1:26-28 is different to what he typed in 1 Corinthians 6:9 and 1 Timothy 1:10, but there is a common thread in all three, which is male prosituting. Incidentally and/or by coincidence OkCornel is interested in, that him and I discuss Romans 1:26-28 together.

Fyi Shepherd00, the coined term "arsenokoites" was not like as done in 1 Corinthians 6:9 and 1 Timothy 1:10 used in Romans 1:26-28 because the term wasnt he hadnt yet invented the term when the letter to the Romans was written

I never accused Apostle Paul of changing anything Shepherd00, but I explained the origin of the word "arsenokoites" and described how the word was developed by Apostle Paul when creating it.

Shepherd00:
I kept calling you back to tell me what the Act of men sexing men was called, instead of trying to bury it in terms like Arsenokoites and the other terms you pulled up. What did you say 'SSR is not homosexuality, but 'SSR.
Like Homo, doesn't mean 'the same'.

You kept calling me back to do what, hmm? You kept calling me back to join you in chasing shadows? Right? You know what, I do recall once telling you that you're not only a time waster but you're an unashamedly time stealer and a time killer. I added that you, abeggy carry your bad energy and negativity far far far away from me please. I further told you, to keep your distance. Why havent you stuck fast to the advice, hmm?

Shepherd00:
Now you been caught, you admit Arsenokoites is men sexing men, but the ones which jump around.

MuttleyLaff, it's not about the gallivanting of the men, but the Act or pattern of sex they choose.

"All SSA people are "homosexuals/lesbians" or indulge in SSA sexual act, but not all SSA people are into "porneia", are "arsenokoites", a "qadesh/qedeshah", "malakoi/malakos" or are a "sodomite" but you watch as my brethren/sisters, as they, either think little of all this, ignore this, gloss over it and/or make these facts I've made known, seem not important, significant nor interesting. The church, in this regard has proven herself to be a serial liar in regards to the true and actual meanings of those terms or words."
- by MuttleyLaff: 11:44pm On Jun 25 2019

Shepherd00, you're just making a further and more nuisance of yourself. Of course, you can read the above inverted commas quote of mine, and so I rest my case. I have nothing further to add.
cc EmperorHarry

Shepherd00:

You are a pagan right? Sir Aleister Crowley was too. So, it shouldn't be a problem for you to download his book "The book of the Law" and read.

In there, he exposed everything. Unlike some of you occult people who do evil and hide, he never hid. He was always in trouble with his fellow occult folks because he'd expose their secrets.

So, if you don't believe what the Bible says about Homosexuality, read Aleister Crowley and see how they release demonic powers through homosexuality, consuming semen and excreta.

Who is pagan?

Shepherd00:

Lol. That's why I said you have no idea what this is. You are a pagan, so leave us alone.

When it concerns ATR you are an authority there, not here.

I knew it was sweet jesus talk, that was why I ignored the thread in the first place. But if you noticed, the topic is about consented adult homos, this is about fellow human being and their fundamental right to live and orientation. And as such, I can contribute to the thread.

Yoruba spirituality is my pride, my heritage and my cultural identity, which I am proud of.

Ever wonder why ATR, and many Eastern religion don't discuss topic like this? Apart from not been homophobic, they have important thing to talk about that is beneficial to humanity. The greatest advantage is uniting the world, instead of creating a divide like your religion does here.

FOLYKAZE:
Who is pagan?

"Ase ni bọbọ yẹn. Ootii mọ ẹnu gbọrọ. Abẹbẹ ni, ki nse fan ẹ"

FOLYKAZE:
I knew it was sweet jesus talk, that was why I ignored the thread in the first place.
But if you noticed, the topic is about consented adult homos, this is about fellow human being and their fundamental right to live and orientation. And as such, I can contribute to the thread.

Are we writing a new book here? "
- by FOLYKAZE(m): 2:09pm On Jun 02

"Na so we see am, nothing wey Musa, no go see for front gate
We shall know the truth things, and the truth shall make us free things. Issa goal."
- by MuttleyLaff: 2:21pm On Jun 02

"I rarely discuss on topic like this. Apologies, I won't contribute anything reasonable here."
- by FOLYKAZE(m): 2:34pm On Jun 02

"I know you well, that you dont discuss on topics like this and I never was expecting you to. Your awareness that such a thread was opened was all I wanted to convey to you. I actually wanted you to be among the list of "dont mind objective referees", but absent mindedly left you out."
- by MuttleyLaff: 2:38pm On Jun 02

Thank you ojaare. Tell him at the emboldened and underlined above! I gave you an invite, let Shepherd00 and anybody else "komanbitmi in my aos" for inviting you on to the thread.

I've said before that, imagine, I wonder how they'll feel and/or behave, if one homosexual, happened to be their Dad, Mum, Granpa, grandma, Aunt, Uncle, Niece, Nephew, Cousin, Work Colleague, Friend, Daughter or Son, hmm?

FOLYKAZE:
Yoruba spirituality is my pride, my heritage and my cultural identity, which I am proud of.

Ever wonder why ATR, and many Eastern religion don't discuss topic like this? Apart from not been homophobic, they have important thing to talk about that is beneficial to humanity. The greatest advantage is uniting the world, instead of creating a divide like your religion does here

Wisdom words, na wa oo. I am ashamed. Not only important things, but they havent like the church, lied, misled and invented falsehoods about SSA just only to have them demonised and have SSA strictly monogamous romantic relationship and sexual act hated
cc EmperorHarry

MuttleyLaff:
[s]"Ase ni bọbọ yẹn. Ootii mọ ẹnu gbọrọ. Abẹbẹ ni, ki nse fan ẹ"

Are we writing a new book here? "
- by FOLYKAZE(m): 2:09pm On Jun 02

"Na so we see am, nothing wey Musa, no go see for front gate
We shall know the truth things, and the truth shall make us free things. Issa goal."
- by MuttleyLaff: 2:21pm On Jun 02

"I rarely discuss on topic like this. Apologies, I won't contribute anything reasonable here."
- by FOLYKAZE(m): 2:34pm On Jun 02

"I know you well, that you dont discuss on topics like this and I never was expecting you to. Your awareness that such a thread was opened was all I wanted to convey to you. I actually wanted you to be among the list of "dont mind objective referees", but absent mindedly left you out."
- by MuttleyLaff: 2:38pm On Jun 02

Thank you ojaare. Tell him at the emboldened and underlined above! I invited you, let him and anybody else "komanbitmi in my aos" for inviting you[/s]

I've said before that, imagine, I wonder how they'll feel and/or behave, if one homosexual, happened to be their Dad, Mum, Granpa, grandma, Aunt, Uncle, Niece, Nephew, Cousin, Work Colleague, Friend, Daughter or Son, hmm?

"

Not only important things, but they havent like the church, lied, misled and invented falsehoods about SSA just only to have them demonised and have SSA strictly monogamous romantic relationship and sexual act hated
cc EmperorHarry

This repetitive hogwash will not in any small way mask your inability to validate your skewed and overt claims of God's endorsement of homosexuality!
Its apparent that your new partner in crime is oblivious that the thread was crafted in a double-faced pattern just like the OP!

Your accustomed manipulative claptrap only display one who has been smoked out of his postulations!
So much for trying to think you can successfully blend the word of God with postulations from a world infected narrative!
You are not the first to do so and you certainly won't be the last....absurdité

#sipstea, not strong coffee, like some do

MuttleyLaff:
#sipstea, not strong coffee, like some do

You will soon be sipping cold tea by the time you have received your final TKO

openmine:
You will soon be sipping cold tea by the time you have received your final TKO

Bang! Bullseye. I said to myself watch it within 10 mins openmine will respond to my post, thats not even having any poster mentioned in it.

Tbh, I don't know what is eating away in him openmine, something terrible is really gnawing away at him inside. He has taken it upon himself to be policing every other comment and posts I upload.

He is a "curtain twitcher", Mr Neighbourhood Watch. The guy says he knows that I upload posts at around 6:00-6:30am every day. What a pitiful life, having to be watching my posts and waiting for me to post something so he can respond to it. It's quite bizarre.

I am actually sipping and having iced cold tea. Didn't you read the memo, we have a heatwave thing currently going on. It gets worse on Saturday coming.
cc EmperorHarry

openmine:
I know and i admit this is off topic....My sincere apologies!
However,its salient to enlighten some few benighted folks who feel compunctious about making a simple inquiry from a medical practitioner but prefer to hear lies from fabulists on a forum!


Is Anal Sex Safe?
There are a number of health risks with anal sex, and anal intercourse is the riskiest form of sexual activity for several reasons, including the following:

• The anus lacks the natural lubrication the vagina has. Penetration can tear the tissue inside the anus, allowing bacteria and viruses to enter the bloodstream. This can result in the spread of sexually transmitted infections including HIV. Studies have suggested that anal exposure to HIV poses 30 times more risk for the receptive partner than vaginal exposure. Exposure to the human papillomavirus (HPV) may also lead to the development of anal warts and anal cancer. Using lubricants can help some, but doesn't completely prevent tearing.

• The tissue inside the anus is not as well protected as the skin outside the anus. Our external tissue has layers of dead cells that serve as a protective barrier against infection. The tissue inside the anus does not have this natural protection, which leaves it vulnerable to tearing and the spread of infection.

• The anus was designed to hold in feces. The anus is surrounded with a ring-like muscle, called the anal sphincter, which tightens after we defecate. When the muscle is tight, anal penetration can be painful and difficult. Repetitive anal sex may lead to weakening of the anal sphincter, making it difficult to hold in feces until you can get to the toilet.

• The anus is full of bacteria. Even if both partners do not have a sexually-transmitted infection or disease, bacteria normally in the anus can potentially infect the giving partner. Practicing vaginal sex after anal sex can also lead to vaginal and urinary tract infections.

Paper theories that shows risks which can apply to penile-vagina penetration. You can run to the four corners of the world to find a medical risk of anal sex which is inconsequential to those who practise it.

The post above is full of uncertainty and some degree of assumptions.

- hiv can be contacted through unprotected sex. It does not have anything to do with anal sex. Penile-vagina unprotected sex could lead to infection. Your argument here is full of flaws. Those who involve in anal sex could do it by been protected or tested infectious free.

- vagina is full of germs and infectious bacteria. You shouldn't paint it as if it is anus thing only.

- too much of sex can also make the vagina inelastic, too opened and full of water. Moreso, young tad that is been penetrated with big penniiss can experience to vagina tear. You may have not heard about it, vagina tears too during sex rump.

- vagina is the den of germs. Every part of the body is full of bateria, and people kiss all parts of the body during sex. You are making it to appear only the anus has germ.



You see how fallacious your submissions are? They are all borne out of assumptions which have found to be false.

Medical expert told us smoking could lead to early death. Scaremongers like you make it appear like smoke is the gateway to instant death, but we still have smokers who lived more than 70yrs, living up and tight.

Those paper theories is not what people experienced. I have provided views of about 15 different person who experiment anal sex. None of their experiences tells of the useless and baseless scaremongering junks you have up there.

openmine:


Its apparent that your new partner in crime is oblivious that the thread was crafted in a double-faced pattern just like the OP!

How is what grown adult do in their private room a crime? How does it affect your life?

Dude, you don't make case for God because you ain't God. For the record, He hasn't condemned or find faults in homosexuality. Homosexuals are his creatures, and his creation are to glorify his name. Let him judge them according to his will, not yours. As much as we know, homosexuality is not condemned in the bible.

You don't like homos, that is your problem, not God's.

FOLYKAZE:


Paper theories that shows risks which can apply to penile-vagina penetration. You can run to the four corners of the world to find a medical risk of anal sex which is inconsequential to those who practise it.

The post above is full of uncertainty and some degree of assumptions.

- hiv can be contacted through unprotected sex. It does not have anything to do with anal sex. Penile-vagina unprotected sex could lead to infection. Your argument here is full of flaws. Those who involve in anal sex could do it by been protected or tested infectious free.

- vagina is full of germs and infectious bacteria. You shouldn't paint it as if it is anus thing only.

- too much of sex can also make the vagina inelastic, too opened and full of water. Moreso, young tad that is been penetrated with big penniiss can experience to vagina tear. You may have not heard about it, vagina tears too during sex rump.

- vagina is the den of germs. Every part of the body is full of bateria, and people kiss all parts of the body during sex. You are making it to appear only the anus has germ.



You see how fallacious your submissions are? They are all borne out of assumptions which have found to be false.

Medical expert told us smoking could lead to early death. Scaremongers like you make it appear like smoke is the gateway to instant death, but we still have smokers who lived more than 70yrs, living up and tight.

Those paper theories is not what people experienced. I have provided views of about 15 different person who experiment anal sex. None of their experiences tells of the useless and baseless scaremongering junks you have up there.

And where did you get your own theories from? Jupiter or mars?
All the submissions I have outlined can be verified and confirmed from any medical outfit which you are afraid of walking into due to the shame of being asked if you partake in anal sex!

I don't just drag out information from the internet haphazardly or just take out information from a forum that only thinks of the joy in the participation and ignore the repercussions,I make my findings and discovered how unsafe and dangerous anal sex is to partners esp SS couples!


Indeed ignorance is not an excuse!
The vagina has the ability to string its self back to normal with dedicated kegel exercises...however,the anus only has a ring like muscle which doesn't have the ability to go back to its original shape after it has been extended!
This is public knowledge and am startled that you are coming up with this flimsy excuses of vagina just to validate anal sex!

The fact that you even pathetically waived aside the advise of medical experts on smokers being liable to death or impending destruction of the liver due to smoking still confirms that you have a lot to learn about the dangers that you are oblivious of!
Go and do a complete body evaluation of an average smoker and you will know why cigarette adverts were stopped!

^^^^
Folykaze, I concur without any demur to all you've typed immediately above and on the next post above. Any one whose agree and accept those comments can "komanbitmi in my aos"

You have said, exactly almost all I would have typed about anal sex. There is bacteria in the mouth sef, on the penis, after you use the toilets, on your kitchen sponge, in your gut, the list goes. How you safeguard yourself from infection is through cleanliness and good hygiene practice . Is it any wonder, our missuses and daughters daily wash under. There is a reason for it.

Too many prudes on the thread, not realising that husbands and wives anal each other because of the pleasure etcetera. Anal sex by a God design is available for whoever that floats their boat.
cc EmperorHarry

MuttleyLaff:
Bang! Bullseye. I said to myself watch it within 10 mins openmine will respond to my post, thats not even having any poster mentioned in it.

Tbh, I don't know what is eating away in him openmine, something terrible is really gnawing away at him inside. He has taken it upon himself to be policing every other comment and posts I upload.

He is a "curtain twitcher", Mr Neighbourhood Watch. The guy says he knows that I upload posts at around 6:00-6:30am every day. What a pitiful life, having to be watching my posts and waiting for me to post something so he can respond to it. It's quite bizarre.

I am actually sipping and having iced cold tea. Didn't you read the memo, we have a heatwave thing currently going on. It gets worse on Saturday coming.

As usual using plenty of words that should have been in one or two sentences!
Another avalanche of balderdash!

MuttleyLaff:
^^^^
I concur without any demur to all you've typed immediately above and on the next post above. Any one whose agree and accept those comments can "komanbitmi in my aos"

You have said, exactly almost all I would have typed about anal sex. There is bacteria in the mouth sef, on the penis, after you use the toilets, on your kitchen sponge, in your gut, the list goes. How you safeguard yourself from infection is through cleanliness and good hygiene practice . Is it any wonder, our missuses and daughters daily wash under. There is a reason for it.

Too many prudes on the thread, not realising that husbands and wives anal each other because of the pleasure etcetera. Anal sex by a God design is available for whoever that floats their boat.

Whatever you agree with has nothing to do with the realities!
You can as well ignore medical advise about smokers and join him!
Meanwhile are we discussing anal sex or scriptures that prove God's endorsement of homosexual deeds?

openmine:
Whatever you agree with has nothing to do with the realities!
You can as well ignore medical advise about smokers and join him!
Meanwhile are we discussing anal sex or scriptures that prove God's endorsement of homosexual deeds?

Smoking is dangerous to the health, you know that much. Have you seen the state of a non-smoker lungs compared with a smoker's openmine? Well I rest my case then.

Kegel exercise for men is to strengthen the anus and pelvic region, so you can last longer than a 40 seconds man does because you'll be able to control when you want to blast.

The thread and my post is getting risqué, so will hold back saying anymore in this regard

FOLYKAZE:




Those paper theories is not what people experienced. I have provided views of about 15 different person who experiment anal sex. None of their experiences tells of the useless and baseless scaremongering junks you have up there.

Read one of the comments from that same link.

Dakota98- • 1y
I had an ex with an average sized penis take my anal virginity a long time ago. I haven’t done it since because it honestly felt like reverse pooping. And my butt was sore and he came in me and when it came out later it was... not very clean. It’s safe if it’s done right.

https://www.reddit.com/r/sex/comments/8rdhnk/so_whats_the_real_deal_with_anal_sex_is_it_safe/


Another thing is majority of the comments there recommended using excessive amount of lubes for anal sex...

The vagina is designed to be self lubricating, whereas the anus is not!

That should tell you the anus was not designed for sex.

Bring a medical or scientific journal to counter this.

FOLYKAZE:


How is what grown adult do in their private room a crime? How does it affect your life?

Dude, you don't make case for God because you ain't God. For the record, He hasn't condemned or find faults in homosexuality. Homosexuals are his creatures, and his creation are to glorify his name. Let him judge them according to his will, not yours. As much as we know, homosexuality is not condemned in the bible.

You don't like homos, that is your problem, not God's.

You indeed speak as one who really has no grasp of the scriptures!

Indeed I don't speak for God!

But I use his words to speak!

This manipulative narrative is no excuse to the scriptures that clearly defines what God permits and endorses!
There are more than 25 scriptures where God welcomes and endorses union/marriage between a MAN and a WOMAN!

If you and Muttleylaff believe there is some sort of scripture that bears semblance to God endorsing homosexual acts,please coordinate with him and find such scriptures so that we can save our selves from extending this unnecessary thread any further!

FOLYKAZE:



Dude, you don't make case for God because you ain't God. For the record, He hasn't condemned or find faults in homosexuality. Homosexuals are his creatures, and his creation are to glorify his name. Let him judge them according to his will, not yours. As much as we know, homosexuality is not condemned in the bible.

Kindly explain what these verses mean, if you say God was never against homosexuality in the first place.

Leviticus 18:22. Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.

C.E. V. Leviticus 20:13 It's disgusting for men to have sex with one another, and those who do will be put to death, just as they deserve.



Then also check Romans 1 v 26-28.

MuttleyLaff:
Smoking is dangerous to the health, you know that much. Have you seen the state of a non-smoker lungs compared with a smoker's openmine? Well I rest my case then.

Kegel exercise for men is to strengthen the anus and pelvic region, so you can last longer than a 40 seconds man does because you'll be able to control when you want to blast.

The thread and my post is getting risqué, so will hold back saying anymore in this regard

Even you are making such erroneous submission!
Oga kegel exercise is only used to strengthen just your pelvic floor muscles to delay ejaculation and not to strengthen you anus!
The anus doesn't need such as it has its own ability to strengthen itself from the inside!
The problem is from the outside which when stretched may not return back to its original position!

Just because you don't smoke does not mean you are healthy,even those who excessively drink have unhealthy bodies!
However,your unnecessary comparison is not enough excuse to state that smokers are healthy!

At times,you guys need to leave the cyberspace and get down to some realities about your health!

openmine:

You indeed speak as one who really has no grasp of the scriptures!

Indeed I don't speak for God!

But I use his words to speak!

This manipulative narrative is not excuse to the scriptures that clearly defines what God permits and endorses!
There are more than 25 scriptures where God welcomes and endorses union/marriage between a MAN and a WOMAN!

If you and Muttleylaff believe there is some sort of scripture that bears semblance to God endorsing homosexual acts,please coordinate with him and find such scriptures so that we can save our selves from extending this unnecessary thread any further!

Exactly! One example of same sex marriage in the scriptures will put this matter to rest!

OkCornel:





Read one of the comments from that same link.





https://www.reddit.com/r/sex/comments/8rdhnk/so_whats_the_real_deal_with_anal_sex_is_it_safe/


Another thing is majority of the comments there recommended using excessive amount of lubes for anal sex...

The vagina is designed to be self lubricating, whereas the anus is not!

That should tell you the anus was not designed for sex.

Bring a medical or scientific journal to counter this.

The problem with these pathetic folks is that they have stayed too much on the internet and they take what anyone says without any form of verification!
...besides,is this thread about anal sex or proof of God's endorsement of homosexuality?

openmine:
You indeed speak as one who really has no grasp of the scriptures!

Indeed I don't speak for God!

But I use his words to speak!

This manipulative narrative is not excuse to the scriptures that clearly defines what God permits and endorses!
There are more than 25 scriptures where God welcomes and endorses union/marriage between a MAN and a WOMAN!

If you and Muttleylaff believe there is some sort of scripture that bears semblance to God endorsing homosexual acts, please coordinate with him and find such scriptures so that we can save our selves from extending this unnecessary thread any further!

openmine, openmine, SSA attraction has always been a minority, as ever being few and far in between, this why there are only at least two mentioned reference in the Bible about it. As it was in Biblical times, being a single digit amount of the entire world population, so it is now in the 21st century. Now what I am getting at or saying, I am saying because though besides the physiological God design of the human body, male especially in this case, God had no reason to in the Bible disapprove of strictly monogamous SSA relationship and romantic sexual act in that kind of setting. There is no scripture disapproving or approving of SSA having a strictly monogamous relationship and anything romantic sexual in that context.

OkCornel:
Exactly! One example of same sex marriage in the scriptures will put this matter to rest!

Please openmine and OkCornel don't anymore send Folykaze or any other poster on a "arodan" errand. Besides, the thread, as I keep reminding you was never opened to search for anything of that sort, but to deconstruct the lies perpetrated by the church, you've learned to believe, hook line and sinker. Now, I am waiting for the first poster, who is going to start referring me as the Antichrist.
cc EmperorHarry

openmine:


Even you are making such erroneous submission!
Oga kegel exercise is only used to strengthen just your pelvic floor muscles to delay ejaculation and not to strengthen you anus!
The anus doesn't need such as it has its own ability to strengthen itself from the inside!
The problem is from the outside which when stretched may not return back to its original position!

Just because you don't smoke does not mean you are healthy, even those who excessively drink have unhealthy bodies!
However,your unnecessary comparison is not enough excuse to state that smokers are healthy!

At times,you guys need to leave the cyberspace and get down to some realities about your health!

Stop trying to all of sudden become knowledgeable in kegel. Kegel strengthes the pelvic and anus region jor, go and better cross check to find out that the purpose of practicing Kegel exercises is to strengthen the muscles that help control bowel, the anus, by default inclusive.

Why do we men clench our butts and eyes shut, when coming. Go figure. It's easy for you to dismiss and poo-poo.

You are skirting away from the fact. I am talking of the state of lungs of a nonsmoker and a smoker, and you drifted off to something else

FOLYKAZE:


Who is pagan?

You asked this ^^^ question, and went on to answer it here Yoruba spirituality is my pride, my heritage and my cultural identity, which I am proud of.

Yet you asked me, who is a pagan?

FOLYKAZE:

Ever wonder why ATR, and many Eastern religion don't discuss topic like this?

No, I don't. Why shd you guys. The Lord Jesus says A Kingdom divided against itself shall not stand
Why shd satan fight what he instituted for his followers?

FOLYKAZE:

Apart from not been homophobic, they have important thing to talk about that is beneficial to humanity.

Important things like which things? What
does Humanity benefit from ATR or Eastern Religions?
Mention 5 only.

FOLYKAZE:

The greatest advantage is uniting the world, instead of creating a divide like your religion does here

In other words, satan has the interest and the wellbeing of this world more than Jesus who created it? This is the lie you have Believed and are propagating. LIES.

MuttleyLaff:
"Ase ni bọbọ yẹn. Ootii mọ ẹnu gbọrọ. Abẹbẹ ni, ki nse fan ẹ"

Are we writing a new book here? "
- by FOLYKAZE(m): 2:09pm On Jun 02

"Na so we see am, nothing wey Musa, no go see for front gate
We shall know the truth things, and the truth shall make us free things. Issa goal."
- by MuttleyLaff: 2:21pm On Jun 02

"I rarely discuss on topic like this. Apologies, I won't contribute anything reasonable here."
- by FOLYKAZE(m): 2:34pm On Jun 02

"I know you well, that you dont discuss on topics like this and I never was expecting you to. Your awareness that such a thread was opened was all I wanted to convey to you. I actually wanted you to be among the list of "dont mind objective referees", but absent mindedly left you out."
- by MuttleyLaff: 2:38pm On Jun 02

Thank you ojaare. Tell him at the emboldened and underlined above! I gave you an invite, let Shepherd00 and anybody else "komanbitmi in my aos" for inviting you on to the thread.

I've said before that, imagine, I wonder how they'll feel and/or behave, if one homosexual, happened to be their Dad, Mum, Granpa, grandma, Aunt, Uncle, Niece, Nephew, Cousin, Work Colleague, Friend, Daughter or Son, hmm?


Wisdom words, na wa oo. I am ashamed. Not only important things, but they havent like the church, lied, misled and invented falsehoods about SSA just only to have them demonised and have SSA strictly monogamous romantic relationship and sexual act hated
cc EmperorHarry

A pagan who does not have regards for the word of the God you claim you serve has spoken words of wisdom abi?
What is the wisdom in what he said?

Keep shouting SSA monogamous romantic relationship maybe with time it will pop up in the Bible

FOLYKAZE:


I knew it was sweet jesus talk, that was why I ignored the thread in the first place. But if you noticed, the topic is about consented adult homos, this is about fellow human being and their fundamental right to live and orientation. And as such, I can contribute to the thread.

Yoruba spirituality is my pride, my heritage and my cultural identity, which I am proud of.

Ever wonder why ATR, and many Eastern religion don't discuss topic like this? Apart from not been homophobic, they have important thing to talk about that is beneficial to humanity. The greatest advantage is uniting the world, instead of creating a divide like your religion does here.

That's why I said you shd relegate yourself to the shrine, when we need the help of the ancestors we shall consult you.

This is not what happens in ATR or Eastern Religions,, this is about what Sweet Jesus says.

Shepherd00:
A pagan who does not have regards for the word of the God you claim you serve has spoken words of wisdom abi?
What is the wisdom in what he said?

Keep shouting SSA monogamous romantic relationship maybe with time it will pop up in the Bible

You left out "strictly". C'mon stop slacking.

Shepherd00:
That's why I said you shd relegate yourself to the shrine, when we need the help of the ancestors we shall consult you.

This is not what happens in ATR or Eastern Religions,, this is about what Sweet Jesus says.

Anyone that is informed, is useful and far better anyday, than or to an ignoranus Christian/believer

MuttleyLaff:

You dont know this, but you are more confused than a fart let ripped out, on the production line, inside a fan-making factory

The church and people like you, have used one word, an aspect of homosexuality to cover all cases of homosexuality, knowing fully well that the term "arsenokoites" does not tie-up with SS people living and enjoying a strictly monogamous SSA relationship lifestyle. It is chalk and cheese, the two instances are different.

MuttleyLaff, are you changing your words? Too much talk no good for man o.

That is why we ask that you post only one couple in the Bible who practiced strictly monogamous SSA relationship

MuttleyLaff, Why does God refer to people in marriage as Husband and wife, but people in the SSA refer to people in marriage as Wife and Wife or Husband and Husband?.

MuttleyLaff:

It is glaring, except if in denial, and this now, is talking of certain posters on this thread, the likes of TV0.1 in particular, then Shepherd00, open.mine, O.kCornel, b.loodofthelamb, solite.3, jesus.jnr, elated.177, Ranch.hoddas, Thoth.Hermes, a.lBHAGDADI etcetera, what the true and original meaning of "porneia" and Paul's "arsenokoites" used in 1 Timothy 1:10 and and 1 Corinthians 6:9 is, before each were being translated to mean "homosexual" or homosexual acts and used to demonise, discriminate and persecute SSA persons. They even lied and translated "qadesh" and/or a sodomite too, mentioned above, to in every respect, mean an ordinary SSA person, "homosexual" or homosexual act.

1Tim 1:10
Greek: ἀρσενοκοίτης
Transliteration: arsenokoitēs
Pronunciation: ar-sen-ok-oy'-tace
Definition: From G730 and G2845; a sodomite: - abuser of (that defile) self with mankind.
KJV Usage: abuser of (one's) self with mankind (1x), defile (one's) self with mankind (1x).

1Cor 6:9
Greek: ἀρσενοκοίτης
Transliteration: arsenokoitēs
Pronunciation: ar-sen-ok-oy'-tace
Definition: From G730 and G2845; a sodomite: - abuser of (that defile) self with mankind.
KJV Usage: abuser of (one's) self with mankind (1x), defile (one's) self with mankind (1x).

MuttleyLaff, what does it mean 'To Defile yourself with mankind?'. Note, it was not added 'As prostitutes or in pagan Temples'.

MuttleyLaff:

The above paragraph is an excerpt from the post you have everything mixed up and confused from.

Look at Romans Chapter 1 now, read it contextually.

If you do, then you'll know that Romans 1:26-28, is Apostle Paul talking of straight males who were sexing other men in their cults which is unnatural to them because they arent sexually attracted to men, but just doing it for pagan religious reasons or forced into doing merely for financial gains

MuttleyLaff, I shudder evertime i read what you type here. Are you sure you don't attend Church of Satan?

Why didn't you post Rom 1 and pick it verse by verse contextually? Why ask me to go read it again?

MuttleyLaff, go on, post it here and interpret it verse by verse.

MuttleyLaff:

Romans 1:25-27, Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13 are caught up in deeper meanings that when properly and correctly studied gives one abetter and right understanding of the passages

You mean the meaning the homosexuals tries to give them? We have Hebrew and Greek meanings of these words, yet these are not enough, we must take what the LGBT gives it? No

We are not against you practicing your Acts, but do it away from the scriptures.

MuttleyLaff:

Shepherd00, come here, come closer, let me lean forward and say this in your ear, if you're reading Bible in translation(s), you can bet your bottom dollar that a very good 90% of the real and original bible meanings are bungled, botched, twisted and/or fouled up. So what's the remedy for this? How does one counteract and fix this Shepherd00? Well whenever you read and study Bible, you first have to find out the "whys", if not, then, you don't know the meaning of the "whats" you have in front of you. Romans 1:25-27, Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13 are good case in points of this.

Yes, I study Bible in different Translations. Hebrew, Greek to England Translation. If the English translation lack words to qualify terms, the Hebrew and Greek will help.

And, the Whys is what I go for actually, before What's.
Q === Why did God forbid homosexuality amongst His people?

A=== Becos, it is a form of worship to satan. It's opposes what God intends (Family), It attempts to kill posterity and end humanity. It serves no purpose, and everything God created serves a purpose.

MuttleyLaff:

Now I know, you don kolo, add put to your ignorance and your mumu has upgraded to part 2. You've wrongly been think about what I typed too much and for too long, now you've ended tying yourself up in knots, from trying too hard to understand all I've typed. What Apostle Paul wrote in Romans 1:26-28 is different to what he typed in 1 Corinthians 6:9 and 1 Timothy 1:10, but there is a common thread in all three, which is male prosituting. Incidentally and/or by coincidence OkCornel is interested in, that him and I discuss Romans 1:26-28 together.

I have posted Hebrew, Greek to English translations and they say the same things Muttleylaff.

But you say they don't. What is your source then? Why have you refused to post your source?

MuttleyLaff:

Fyi Sphepherd00, the coined term "arsenokoites" was not like as done in 1 Corinthians 6:9 and 1 Timothy 1:10 used in Romans 1:26-28 because the term wasnt he hadnt yet invented the term when the letter to the Romans was written

Who hadn't yet invented the term?

Okay Fine, let's leave what it was called for a moment and dwell on what it was, 'the 'Act'. What was it? What did he mean and what did he say the act meant to God?
Was he pleaded with those who did it?

Were men doing it in his days?

Was he referring to those doing it in pagan temples?

How can you tell?
Why didn't he tell them to do it right by emulating the strictly monogamous, consented SSA couples? There must be some he knew in his days, No?

MuttleyLaff:

I never accused Apostle Paul of changing anything Shepherd00, but I explained the origin of the word "arsenokoites" and described how the word was developed by Apostle Paul when creating it.

You did. And, you are trying to cover the act in terms. Talk about what it is, why God loves or hates it. not the name it was called.


What is your source MuttleyLaff, since you don't agree with the Greek translation which means homosexuality?

MuttleyLaff:

You kept calling me back to do what, hmm? You kept calling me back to join you in chasing shadows? Right? You know what, I do recall once telling you that you're not only a time waster but you're an unashamedly time stealer and a time killer. I added that you, abeggy carry your bad energy and negativity far far far away from me please. I further told you, to keep your distance. Why havent you stuck fast to the advice, hmm?

I will continue to call you out because you insist on propagating lies and blaspheming the Word of God.

MuttleyLaff:

All SSA people are "homosexuals/lesbians" or indulge in SSA sexual act, but not all SSA people are into "porneia", are "arsenokoites", a "qadesh/qedeshah", "malakoi/malakos" or are a "sodomite" but you watch as my brethren/sisters, as they, either think little of all this, ignore this, gloss over it and/or make these facts I've made known, seem not important, significant nor interesting. The church, in this regard has proven herself to be a serial liar in regards to the true and actual meanings of those terms or words."
- by MuttleyLaff: 11:44pm On Jun 25 2019

Shepherd00, you're just making a further and more nuisance of yourself. Of course, you can read the above inverted commas quote of mine, and so I rest my case. I have nothing further to add.
cc EmperorHarry

Don't worry, we already know the truth about God says about Homosexuality, which you have insisted He approves.
Again, porneia means, every kind of extramarital, unlawful or unnatural sexual intercourse".

The original meaning of the Greek word porneia is to prostitute or to sell. However by the time of the New Testament, porneia had a very broad meaning that included sexual behaviors such as prostitution, extramarital sexual intercourse or adultery, paedophilia, promiscuity, homosexuality, lesbianism, incest, premarital sex and bestiality.

MuttleyLaff, you are trying to delegate porneia to only Prostitution or selling sex, no. read the words that are included in the compound word 'porneia'. It doesn't mean only one term as you try to pass off.

Arsenokoites, still talks about men sexing men, but one partner dominating the other.

malakos, the same.

MY POINT IS MEN SEXING MEN and what God says about it, not who is in charge in the relationship.

openmine:

And where did you get your own theories from? Jupiter or mars?
All the submissions I have outlined can be verified and confirmed from any medical outfit which you are afraid of walking into due to the shame of being asked if you partake in anal sex!

I don't just drag out information from the internet haphazardly or just take out information from a forum that only thinks of the joy in the participation and ignore the repercussions,I make my findings and discovered how unsafe and dangerous anal sex is to partners esp SS couples!


Indeed ignorance is not an excuse!
The vagina has the ability to string its self back to normal with dedicated kegel exercises...however,the anus only has a ring like muscle which doesn't have the ability to go back to its original shape after it has been extended!
This is public knowledge and am startled that you are coming up with this flimsy excuses of vagina just to validate anal sex!

The fact that you even pathetically waived aside the advise of medical experts on smokers being liable to death or impending destruction of the liver due to smoking still confirms that you have a lot to learn about the dangers that you are oblivious of!
Go and do a complete body evaluation of an average smoker and you will know why cigarette adverts were stopped!

You are making up hills of hogwash. You have dropped your pathetic theory about bateria and moved into pain. Who tells you vagina doesn't pain too?

In case you are a toddler who haven't experienced sex once, you should move in with adults who had many experiences.

Anal sex is not essentially what homos do. Married couples engage in anal sex, and at such, none has complained of having problem.

Maybe if you haven't had sex before, at the initial stage of penetration, ladies do feel some little pain in their vagina . And as the penetration goes deeper, the pain ease up to pleasure. So the issue of pain which you are trying to pop up is invalid as it applies to vagina too.

There is more pain in disflowering a lady as the process is violent. Girls that have done anal sex over time do not experience any pain but pleasure.

Anal sex and other sexual practises are just fine if the romp is done with ease

Shepherd00:


That's why I said you shd relegate yourself to the shrine, when we need the help of the ancestors we shall consult you.

This is not what happens in ATR or Eastern Religions,, this is about what Sweet Jesus says.

Never knew your jesus is concerned if your fuucck your wife in 69 positioning

MuttleyLaff:
Shepherd00, talk is cheap. You're a mouthful, throwing out words and I've been warning you that the fat is in the fire.

This is a ludicrous thought, it isn't acceptable, it is you cheerfully casual in a careless and irresponsible way insisting on discrediting me by making false accusations. It is embrassing. I no like am shishi. Your wahala sef don dey too much now, you get lying talent die, and "wahala yi, dẹ ti fẹ wa pọju nsẹyin sef kẹ, abi kini gbogbo radarada yi bayi. Abi iru pala pala wo leleyi, ti mo ko, lọwọ Shepherd00" Biko, jor.

Nwanne, brother, please, if you have proof and evidence of me plagiarising other people's content, please, please, as a man full of honor and integrity that you are, paste it here verbatim for the whole wide world to see and that you and I, can both carefully examine what you've presented as exhibits and we both cross-check for evidence of me alleged to have copied and pasted. Now, if you are unable to, bring forward at least one proof, then do the right thing of withdrawing and retracting this your funny old smear campaign, in addition of, putting out, a follow up apology for the slander and malicious lies.

"Alaye mi, you go school nah, shebi o kawe, shebi o mọ iwe" loosely translated means "My Mr Big man, you attended college, didnt you. I thought you're literate, thought you read and know book"

Tbh, Shepherd00, it just beats me, why you never understood, that the phrase, "great minds think alike" in simple literal terms, means, two or more people having the same thought, as in, used for when two or more have a particular same way of thinking. I am equally surprised that OkCornel was puzzled and was questioning the use of the phrase by me because I used it also for alBHAGDADI and I.
cc EmperorHarry

Lolzzzzz. This guy like plenty words eh. Did you or did you not admit that you and Rev. M Turner posted the same things becos you think alike?