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Eruditor:
Max Kellerman said Achilless bone is connected to the Calf bone.

LOL

That is who someone was quoting.

LOL

Chai, you're so dumb to the extent that you didn't know he meant to say muscle. You go dey alright las las.

In the whole universe, you seem to be the only one picking sides with the Warriors on KD's case. You sef no reason the thing? Even A40 is not with you on this

SmooshCHN:
So why are you and the media analyst still blaming the Warriors?

Because an insider has confirmed warriors staff do underplay diagnosis? Why are you and Eruditor so defensive? You ought to be on the side of players. And its not just warriors...Kawhi had issues with the Spurs. Just admit...it wont kee u...

Eruditor:
Ok no vex.

You don't need to be the only one to still be unashamedly wrong by the way.

He said when he fractured his leg last time against Rockets, the medical team of the warriors told THE NBA that it was a bone bruise even though they knew it was a fracture. Every team does that BTW. You want to unsettle the opposition and make them overcalculate their tactics. If Iggy was ruled out completely the Rockets would have been emboldened. Rockets did same about CP3 and kept lying that he could play game 6 or 7 even when they knew he was out. That was the summary of what he said.

Warriors did not play him, did they? The medical staff did not misdiagnose him (in fact he praised them). They only misled the NBA, journalists and the rockets (or at least they tried to).

I am not even saying anything new. If you do some digging, you will see that at the time last playoffs, I said categorically that Iggy's bone bruise injury claim was BS. Teams do that.

I would have gone to say exactly what he said about KDs injury but I am sure that is not what people care about. The hottake nonsense was to act like Warriors had misled Iggy about his injury but that is not what he was saying. Thing is, when you have made up your mind to hang your dog, any thread will be good enough. Which explains why people deliberately misunderstood the player.

So when GS people lied to the media that it was a bone bruise and not a fracture, did they also lie to his teammates? Because his teammates were urging him to come back too.

Eruditor:
Your opinion is wonderfully wrong. No debate.

He said " it was put OUT THERE" as a bone bruise. Put out there to who? That is your answer. Iggy himself praised the team because not only did they not mislead him. They still treated him the way a fracture should be treated without ever asking him to play. The only thing they did was misinform journalists to keep the opposition guessing. It is not rocket science.

Of course, when the media keep carrying a news repeatedly that a player has a bone bruise, people here and there will ask questions. How is the leg? Can you play? Is the pain still there? I mean, Steph was being asked these questions when he hurt his fingers. At no point did he say the Medical team misled HIM which is the lame argument you are trying to defend.

[b]Same goes for KD who (by the way got cleared by his own doctors) [/b]and then INSISTED on playing. Whatever pressures he felt is not in anyway related to the hot takes or about NBA teams misinforming the media. The warriors for e.g if KDs initial injury was an Achilles could have still lied it was a calf strain but they would have never played him (as he would not have been able to even play..LOL).

And no amount of pressure can make a player who is unable to play, play. The pressure came from the media who kept claiming the player was out of GSW so to prove to them he was not out, he played.

Does that mean that the GS doctors are underskilled quacks? Because they outrightly said that there was no way KD was in danger of hurting Achilles. Whichever way, GS are to be held responsible for this mess.

SmooshCHN:
Spot on about Iggy's case. Every team does that. On KD, I'd only agree to say they rushed him because they know, especially KD's team and the Warriors team that they were taking a risk with letting KD play. The circumstances at that time wasn't helping matters. Everybody was injured. On a normal day, they wouldn't have cleared him to play but it's the finals and they cleared him after saying he has to be 100% first. Everyone here takes the blame IMO including Bob Myers as well as the media who were saying KD has to play. Would they do this again? No!! But every player would pull the Kawhi move which is good for the players. Trust has to go both ways and KD wanted to play through the injury as he said on his IG. Bad look on the medical staff if they assured everyone that there wouldn't have been any complications but I'm 100% they did inform everyone on the team of the complications. It's the most basic thing athletic trainers and medical staffs know. They calf strain takes 3-6weeks. KD took 32 days off which has been enough for many NBA players. In his case, it wasn't. Would they have known he would rupture his achilles? No!! No objective scan would tell them and they're not God. They took a risk and they paid dearly for it. If the Warriors are now suddenly classless, that's the media's problem since they want to choose when to call say KD must and must not play. Didn't Curry play through one injury in 2016 after the knee sprain vs Houston? Want he the hero after returning in the Portland game? The media cannot come and play two face here. If he sprained his ankle that game, they'll say it was connected to his knee. He was later scheduled to have surgery after that finals but it didn't matter to the media because he played well in the Portland series. Iggy was ruled out with his back issue, Bogut was out too and those guys weren't forced to play. It's a big issue because it happened to KD in the finals which Warriors ended up losing. Isaiah Thomas case with the Celtics is where the media can pull this two face.

Klay's situation was no one's fault. Almighty LeBron would go down injured if he landed with toes pointed out and knees in like Klay did. Danny Green made sure he gave him no chance to score.

What? You're not supporting your boy Eruditor anymore. Don't leave him in the cold man.

SIRcumalot:
What sort of pressure would make KD's own personal doctor act against his employer own interest ?
Durant own doctor cleared him to play that pretty much mean he was good to go.

You think his doctors would come out and say they didn't clear him to play? KD himself wanted to play, and so his doctors are going to stand by him and not rat him out and say they warned him not to play.

SmooshCHN:
Prove this uncle without using possibilities or probably. You could be good to go 2 weeks after a calf strain. You can never be good to go in 3 months if you fully rupture your achilles. Don't be too confident about things you don't know.

He was not misdiagnosed and would have been good to go if it was a grade 1 or grade 11 calf strain.

His doctors will not clear him and if KD wanted to still play, they'll let him know of the consequences if he was to return too soon. KD will not play if a career ending injury could arise from not healing properly from his calf strain going into free agency.

Jump off the fence and just think brother.

Look, we know calf and Achilles are two different things, but the truth is calf and Achilles are connected at one point. And look at how low the ice pack was on KD's leg. If it was close to the knee/popliteal fossa it would have been a different case. But it was close to the ankle. That calf injury was probably at the calf-achilles junction or just inches above. As a doctor, you should be able to know that you should give your patient an ample amount of time to heal due to the peculiarity of the injury. You can't give that sort of calf injury the same amount of time you would give a calf injury that is higher.

SmooshCHN:
Agreed they can but I'll take my chances with believing them and their objective results and opinions over yours. You cannot walk unaided after a ruptured achilles. KD was dunking in practice so what is the misdiagnosis here? Too stubborn to admit you were wrong?

KD that was dunking and hanging on the rim. Lol. Did you even watch the practices?

SmooshCHN:
Misdiagnosis of Kevin Wanye Durant's injury from his medical team to the Warriors team and then by the fact that he even played in 4 weeks is impossible. Besides those are people who live and breath in buckets and achilles. The warriors have a achilles specialist sef and you're on NL telling us they misdiagnosed an achilles year after dude hit three pointers and crosses niggás over. A team of more than 12 people, like of two opposite interests and then the client jumping around missed a ruptured achilles. It's impossible and I'm not even playing Obatala.

Lol, tell me how many players in the NBA have ruptured their Achilles few minutes into their first game from a calf injury. You're here praising your team doctors. It's either they knew the risk and ignored it, or they didn't know. Whichever way, those doctors need to be fired

DeeMain:
If you are told by your doctor that you are cleared to play and good to go, and 13 minutes into a game you have a career threatening injury following an innocuous jump who would you hold responsible?

My brother help me ask them o

birdman:
@ Eruditor
I watched the whole thing. Look he is still a warrior, so he cant come out and be directly abusing the training staff he will be working with next season. But he was specific...someone on the team said he had a bone bruise when what he had was a fracture. He said he had to fight the team on this. There is no way to spin it. He mentioned this when asked about Durant.

In other news, we know part of the reason Mark Jackson was let go. I am not too surprised, he was very vocal about his faith in a hostile environment. I always wondered if someone would challenge him.

So congrats. Your team is wicked and godless

No offense but this makes 0 sense. He can't come out and abuse the medical staff but he can come out to say they misdiagnosed him? Lol. Pick a lane and stick to it. Your two sentences contradict themselves.

He also said it was being put out there. Not in here. Out there. So who forms the out there that he was referring to? Or did Iggy diagnose himself and then refuse to play? LOL.

Mark Jackson did not openly criticise being gay even when he knew one of the owners was gay? Mark Jackson was not insulting ownership in the dressing room? There is not much to say about him because I don't even care that much. He went and we won 3 rings so I am gucci.

steady986:
You think his doctors would come out and say they didn't clear him to play? KD himself wanted to play, and so his doctors are going to stand by him and not rat him out and say they warned him not to play.

What about the warrior doctor and the third specialist?
They also cleared him.
Do doctors not lose practicing license for this kind of misconduct ?
For me, this is a non issue when the proper opportunity rear it's head for us to clown the warriors will be here.

DeeMain:
There is no winning this argument no matter the amount of evidence or points presented here. I know.

Passion has mythical powers.

It's like trying to argue about religion or denominations. Or debating who is better between Messi and Ronaldo. Or telling a battered woman to leave an abusive relationship.

So, don't come here preaching like you are talking facts and reason. You are a thoroughly invested passionate fan and your core instinct in this debate is 'we die here".

I understand.

No hard feelings.

Best wishes everyone.

Your drivel speaks more to you than me. The mythical powers are the ones that will come up with reasons for Iggy and even argue with said player when he himself has come out to refute what you are saying. Or the ones who switch arguments from he called out the warriors to they rushed him back. LOL. Let us assume KDs Achilles was already partially torn when they misdiagnosed him, at what point would the tear have healed? Lol. So no matter what you are saying, the Achilles would have still ruptured at some point and KD would have needed a surgery. You have argued with the warriors. Argued with Iggy. Argued with SmooshCHN who is a resident doctor himself but it is me and him who are arguing impassionedly.


LOL.

steady986:
You think your talking smack makes you sound like you're intelligent? Lol. I know your type. You are even willing to say Einstein is dumb just because you don't agree with him or your small brain can't comprehend what he does or says.

You should use control + S on your passport photo if you are trying to save face.

steady986:
You sound like a defeated loser who has nothing else to say other than question people's intelligence.

I questioned your intelligence. Not his. Don't be trying to robe him in. You are the dullard here. Our resident dullard-inho.

steady986:
Chai, you're so dumb to the extent that you didn't know he meant to say muscle. You go dey alright las las.

In the whole universe, you seem to be the only one picking sides with the Warriors on KD's case. You sef no reason the thing? Even A40 is not with you on this

You are dumber than I thought.

He did not mean to say anything. He said what he said and he goofed. Same way you have goofed for using him as a yardstick or even trying to defend him. Hahaha.

birdman:
Because an insider has confirmed warriors staff do underplay diagnosis? Why are you and Eruditor so defensive? You ought to be on the side of players. And its not just warriors...Kawhi had issues with the Spurs. Just admit...it wont kee u...

Hahaha. Spurs misdiagnosed Kawhi and told him his injury was not serious. They even asked him to play.

Iggy said the medical team told him he had a fracture..ruled him out internally..never asked him to play..but lied to the media that it was just a bone bruise. Spot the difference.

steady986:
So when GS people lied to the media that it was a bone bruise and not a fracture, did they also lie to his teammates? Because his teammates were urging him to come back too.

Wonderful question and I am happy you reasoned well for once.

Health issues are private and many times you don't feed things to teammates as you can never tell who the mole is. You do know some players leak information to the press for various reasons? So sometimes, the medical team will only inform the player whose health is in question and the coach and then leave everybody else guessing.

Ask Jalen Rose for example how he was so sure looooooong before Kawhi left the spurs that Kawhi was not going to play for them again. I mean, he even placed a bet online about it and he was right. Yea..because someone from Kawhi's camp definitely leaked it to him. If it was not Kawhi himself.

birdman:
Because an insider has confirmed warriors staff do underplay diagnosis? Why are you and Eruditor so defensive? You ought to be on the side of players. And its not just warriors...Kawhi had issues with the Spurs. Just admit...it wont kee u...

As usual it's anything against the Warriors organization with you just admit it.
When Iggy got injured, the team knew it was fractured, Iggy knew it was fractured and he wasn't allowed to play. But it was reported to the media that it was a bone bruise as per usual basketball tactics. Popovich and others have done this for years. If this looks like a misdiagnosis to you or the team downplaying Iggy's injury to him and his teammates instead of the normal basketball tactics of not letting your opponents know about your adversity, I don't know what to tell you man. Iggy was simply talking about how this creates so much pressure on the player. Simple, except you want to twist his words. Did he not commend the team medical staff right after?

steady986:
Does that mean that the GS doctors are underskilled quacks? Because they outrightly said that there was no way KD was in danger of hurting Achilles. Whichever way, GS are to be held responsible for this mess.

You can hurt your Achilles mounting a woman, dude. KD could have been on his treadmill and hurt his Achilles. Freak injuries happen.

Eruditor:
Hahaha. Spurs misdiagnosed Kawhi and told him his injury was not serious. They even asked him to play.

Iggy said the medical team told him he had a fracture..ruled him out internally..never asked him to play..but lied to the media that it was just a bone bruise. Spot the difference.

I swear even if you open their head and ears wide open, they'd only see it from their point of view.

steady986:
What? You're not supporting your boy Eruditor anymore. Don't leave him in the cold man.

Face palm.

steady986:
What? You're not supporting your boy Eruditor anymore. Don't leave him in the cold man.

I'm only speaking from my knowledge not supporting anybody. But spot how you were reasonable here and then go on to start discrediting the team's staff? There's nothing this team can do to please you people. Absolutely nothing.

Eruditor:
Face palm.

Dude was reasonable a bit there then switched to why I wasn't supporting you. Honestly, I'm wasting my time here.

steady986:
You think his doctors would come out and say they didn't clear him to play? KD himself wanted to play, and so his doctors are going to stand by him and not rat him out and say they warned him not to play.

You were there when they said they weren't going to rat him out?? And KD, his doctors, the Warriors staff, the Warriors team and players would agree for the second best player in the league to play a game 6 knowing he would have a career threatening injury?

As in KD, his agents and his medical staffs would allow that to happen when he's going into free agency and as you guys always said, would pack his bags and eventually leave the Warriors?


I'm schleeep

Eruditor:
You can hurt your Achilles mounting a woman, dude. KD could have been on his treadmill and hurt his Achilles. Freak injuries happen.

Like waking up on a Sunday morning and saying there's no way I'm hurting my Achilles today, and boom, you hurt your Achilles. I get it.

Eruditor:
You are dumber than I thought.

He did not mean to say anything. He said what he said and he goofed. Same way you have goofed for using him as a yardstick or even trying to defend him. Hahaha.

But didn't you hear him say muscle the whole show? Did he say bone more than once? Omo, your own worse o

Eruditor:
I questioned your intelligence. Not his. Don't be trying to robe him in. You are the dullard here. Our resident dullard-inho.

But you questioned his understanding abi? Smh. Always looking for the easy way out

Eruditor:
Wonderful question and I am happy you reasoned well for once.

Health issues are private and many times you don't feed things to teammates as you can never tell who the mole is. You do know some players leak information to the press for various reasons? So sometimes, the medical team will only inform the player whose health is in question and the coach and then leave everybody else guessing.

Ask Jalen Rose for example how he was so sure looooooong before Kawhi left the spurs that Kawhi was not going to play for them again. I mean, he even placed a bet online about it and he was right. Yea..because someone from Kawhi's camp definitely leaked it to him. If it was not Kawhi himself.

Nah, I ain't buying it bro. They lied to everybody, including Iggy. That's what they do, they lie. Classless organization

SmooshCHN:
You were there when they said they weren't going to rat him out?? And KD, his doctors, the Warriors staff, the Warriors team and players would agree for the second best player in the league to play a game 6 knowing he would have a career threatening injury?

As in KD, his agents and his medical staffs would allow that to happen when he's going into free agency and as you guys always said, would pack his bags and eventually leave the Warriors?


I'm schleeep

That's the point. Nobody was there and so whatever you're insinuating is just your own opinion.

steady986:
That's the point. Nobody was there and so whatever you're insinuating is just your own opinion.

Good lawd..

The one wey you they insinuate nko? Na Wetin?

steady986:
That's the point. Nobody was there and so whatever you're insinuating is just your own opinion.