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Origin:
he is right..

but Men have refused to be Men

cowering and giving up their responsibilities and forcing women to become Men

know your responsibilities, own them and act like the Head of the House.

Chanchit:
Feminists should go to his church and protest, since that's the new trend. Truth be told, he is 100% right, but nowadays women now bully men, you say something and they all jump out cursing. As a Christian, I think our religion has influenced Islam negatively, cos before now, Islam has made women realize their role in the home, but Christianity has done a poor job of it, now they have created monsters they can't control.

Born2Breed:
Women are not equal partners with the man in a marriage. I agree with that cos the man has 51% bad the woman 49%.

What I totally disagree with is the man being the master,where there is a master then there is a slave.

Are women slaves? Unless if the man is the master and the woman is the co-master.

Born2Breed:
@the bolded. The bibles said...we are CO-HEIR

jesusjnr:
Lies! Lies!! Lies!!!

For if woman was not God's original idea, how come God at time of the conception of the idea of making man, used "let them" instead of "let him" on this occasion?

Genesis 1:26 (KJV)

And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

For how was the man going to turn to them if a woman was not God's original idea?

Woman was always an integral part of God's original idea to make man in His own image, and after His likeness, for she was the one that God intended to use to turn the man, into them.

Genesis 1:27 (KJV)

So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

And everything was very good after God had made the woman.

Genesis 1:31 (KJV)

And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

Woman's problem began when she made man take the place of God in her life, for God her Maker was supposed to be her original Lord and Master, not man who was just her husband.

For that was what led her to disobedience of God's Word in the beginning.

And that was why God let her have her wish as a punishment that man shall rule over her, since she had chosen to please man instead of her maker by going contrary to His instructions.

But that punishment was reversed with the coming of her maker in the form of Man, called Jesus who reversed the curse of her sins, and reclaimed His position as her Lord and Master.

Hence His rebuke of the woman called Martha, so that she does not repeat the same mistake woman made in the beginning, in the process of trying to please man instead of her Lord and Maker.

Luke 10:41-42 (KJV)

41 And Jesus answered and said unto her, Martha, Martha, thou art careful and troubled about many things:
42 But one thing is needful: and Mary hath chosen that good part, which shall not be taken away from her.

MuttleyLaff:
Thank you dearie.

Here is to all the strong, opinionated, powerful, successful and intelligent virtuous women or wives out there.

He proved nothing, he codedly was sending a message to his ex-wife, her dad and stylishly blaming her upbringing.

I reproduced the most important parts of what he said in the video, as excerpts. He was just shooting himself in the foot in it. What he doesnt know, is that he takes God given wisdom to click with strong, opinionated, powerful, successful and intelligent virtuous woman wife.

It is not by gra-gra, not by force, not crook or by crook, that a woman will be submissive to a husband. It comes, the respect and all by volition.

AntiBrutus:
I am not anti-religion. I am just not into organised religion, ANYMORE.

However, more than anything, I hate the hypocrisy of majority of them. Cherrypickimg which part of the bible they will adhere to. Fornicating per second, yet they will get married after intense penising, to start quoting "submit...God said this".

Very manipulative bunch.

One passage, 1001 interpretations.

Hey, I can't deal ooo! I rebuke them.

Silver9:
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Heretic prig!

TechCapon:
OK. Thanks but if his wife was the virtuous woman as u portrayed I think she would still be in the marriage despite how painful

jesusjnr:
Lies! Lies!! Lies!!!

For if woman was not God's original idea, how come God at time of the conception of the idea of making man, used "let them" instead of "let him" on this occasion?

Genesis 1:26 (KJV)

And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

For how was the man going to turn to them if a woman was not God's original idea?

Woman was always an integral part of God's original idea to make man in His own image, and after His likeness, for she was the one that God intended to use to turn the man, into them.

Genesis 1:27 (KJV)

So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

And everything was very good after God had made the woman.

Genesis 1:31 (KJV)

And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

Woman's problem began when she made man take the place of God in her life, for God her Maker was supposed to be her original Lord and Master, not man who was just her husband.

For that was what led her to disobedience of God's Word in the beginning.

And that was why God let her have her wish as a punishment that man shall rule over her, since she had chosen to please man instead of her maker by going contrary to His instructions.

But that punishment was reversed with the coming of her maker in the form of Man, called Jesus who reversed the curse of her sins, and reclaimed His position as her Lord and Master.

Hence His rebuke of the woman called Martha, so that she does not repeat the same mistake woman made in the beginning, in the process of trying to please man instead of her Lord and Maker.

Luke 10:41-42 (KJV)

41 And Jesus answered and said unto her, Martha, Martha, thou art careful and troubled about many things:
42 But one thing is needful: and Mary hath chosen that good part, which shall not be taken away from her.

jesusjnr:
Lies! Lies!! Lies!!!

For if woman was not God's original idea, how come God at time of the conception of the idea of making man, used "let them" instead of "let him" on this occasion?

Genesis 1:26 (KJV)

And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

For how was the man going to turn to them if a woman was not God's original idea?

Woman was always an integral part of God's original idea to make man in His own image, and after His likeness, for she was the one that God intended to use to turn the man, into them.

Genesis 1:27 (KJV)

So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

And everything was very good after God had made the woman.

Genesis 1:31 (KJV)

And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

Woman's problem began when she made man take the place of God in her life, for God her Maker was supposed to be her original Lord and Master, not man who was just her husband.

For that was what led her to disobedience of God's Word in the beginning.

And that was why God let her have her wish as a punishment that man shall rule over her, since she had chosen to please man instead of her maker by going contrary to His instructions.

But that punishment was reversed with the coming of her maker in the form of Man, called Jesus who reversed the curse of her sins, and reclaimed His position as her Lord and Master.

Hence His rebuke of the woman called Martha, so that she does not repeat the same mistake woman made in the beginning, in the process of trying to please man instead of her Lord and Maker.

Luke 10:41-42 (KJV)

41 And Jesus answered and said unto her, Martha, Martha, thou art careful and troubled about many things:
42 But one thing is needful: and Mary hath chosen that good part, which shall not be taken away from her.

SilentListener:
No, I mean you are a stupid, disgusting piece of shlt

MyVILLAGEpeople:
You better listen to words of wisdom. That's why most of you ladies don't last long in marriages. The husband is a master and the wife is meant to be under his authority. That's how God Almighty made it to be.

austenite:
Be careful with what you say about people most especially men of God.

MyVILLAGEpeople:
You better listen to words of wisdom. That's why most of you ladies don't last long in marriages. The husband is a master and the wife is meant to be under his authority. That's how God Almighty made it to be.

flowx:
Sorry! That thing dey pain... Pastor Chris said someone like you was not God's intention���

Smile4daddy:
Do you think Jesus was stupid for not having a female amongst his twelve disciples.

Or you want God to provoke and wipe out all female from the earth?

Don't forget your mum, sisters, female relatives and friends will be wiped out alongside

KristaPretty:
Useless man!!! That is why his wife left him. Rubbish bleaching man!

KristaPretty:
Useless man!!! That is why his wife left him. Rubbish bleaching man!

jesusjnr:
Hahahahahahha! E dey pain dem modern day Pharisees.

For it Jesus was here, you would have said the same of Him.

I'm so honored to suffer likewise.

sweetilicious:
I quite agree with you.BUT under his authority and not slavery aspect.That's why Power and Authority are two different meanings.

gwama:
Pastor, since you are preaching there, is this your new discovery? It's God who spoke to you ?? With such feudal ideas, I understand why your marriage spat. I hope God will give you a woman as you preach. But while waiting for this new woman, I would like to know that her personal life now leads, that you are divorced from Anita and we did not hear that you took a new wife? Do you lead a personal life close to Christ or close to Sodom ?? Or would you have been a eunuch by yourself? Donnie, forward like a good guard dog.

MuttleyLaff:
You are absolutely right. His ex wife saw through his bullshits, absurdity, irrationality and heresies.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8JUMbu1zDo

God, the Bible is never against badass strong, successful, powerful and intelligent virtuous women, but badass strong, successful, powerful and intelligent virtuous women scare most men, scares most men, who are weak or ignorant. God did not chastise Eve for being a badass strong, successful, powerful and intelligent virtuous woman, but He told her off for openly disregarding His express command not to eat of the fruit.

Abigail, the wife of Nabal, she is another badass strong and opinionated woman. David sent word to Abigail, after hearing that Nabal was dead, asking her to become his wife, and so she became a wife of the future King David after Nabal's death. It was being a badass strong, successful, powerful and intelligent virtuous woman, that was the attraction to David.

In spite of being a badass strong, successful, powerful and intelligent virtuous woman, at 1 Samuel 25:41, look at how Abigail, in a token of humility, responded to David's proposal of marriage, she replied: "Behold, let thine handmaid be a servant to wash the feet of the servants of my lord." Abigail, the badass strong, successful, powerful and intelligent virtuous woman, brought herself down and small before David, as if she is an insignificant person, then saying to him, she wants to take care of David's servants and then referred to David, as her lord.

Many years before Abigail, used it, lord is the same adjective, Sarah, used for her husband Abraham too. Lord, is the same word we get landlord from, which means the owner of a house, apartment, condominium, land or real estate which is rented. Sarah and Abigail, were merely recognising that their husbands are their owners.

Man shouldn't fear a badass strong, successful, powerful and intelligent virtuous woman, because just like in the game of chess, it's a badass strong, successful, powerful and intelligent virtuous woman queen that protects the king.

The president and founder of Christ Embassy church, Chris Oyakhilome, at the video's 01:26 minute mark, made a mistake, in saying that the male partner in a marriage husband means master

"... do you know the meaning of husband. No, no I think some of you don't know. You think husband means the male, the male partner in a marriage. No, I think that's what you think. Some of you. You think husband means the male partner in a marriage. Husband does not mean the male partner in a marriage. Husband means master.

That's what it means, not the male partner in a marriage but you know, that's the reason there is a lot problems among Christians in their marriage.

I mean marriage, marriage in Christianity for most people is just a flop. Why? Because they don't agree with God's definitions. They have theirs, they say we are, they believe they're equal partners. A lot of times listen to two people that have just gotten married, a lot of times is the woman first speaks first

... let me tell you something. Let me tell you something. If you want to live according to the Bible, according to the Scriptures, then understand what the word says. The reason God made woman was because of man. He made the woman because of the man. That's why He made the woman. So women was not His original idea

Listen this is reality. Okay alright, scripture let's talk about. Let's say what the Bible says, now listen, when God have made everything and then
He made Adam, the Bible says everything was very good, already, everything was very good. No problem, then he got Adam. Listen. Okay, now be quiet, let me tell you something, if most women had their father bold enough to talk to them they will be very
successful in their marriage and will be very happy people. Most women have never been taught by their parents, their fathers particularly that's the biggest problem, they don't know who a man is, they think he's another woman. You see in a marriage you have the man who is the head of that Union and because he is the head of that union it is important to understand him. Now you think, he is the one that needs to understand his wife. That is where you're wrong. He will but until you know who you have married, the man that you came, it is like working for somebody and not knowing what he wants. It's like serving somebody and not knowing what he wants. When you say that you're marrying a man, you are coming under his authority. The Bible says the man is the head of the woman, so when you marry him, you're coming under his authority. You're not authority sharers, even though you are both heirs to the kingdom of God because there there is neither male nor female but we are functioning here, that's why you were given the body of a woman and he given the body of a male, so in that union in that relationship there is a head, so when you say you're marrying a man, you are subjecting yourself to his authority

Now when you decide not to subject yourself to that authority, you are a rebel. Can you see that and God's not going to accept what you're doing. He cant accept it because you're not functioning correctly. Why did God make the woman? Simple, when you start in Genesis He says this, study all the way from chapter 2 into chapter 3, you see the whole thing, now He says, He brought all the animals before Adam, to see what he would call them and name them and when he was done, the Bible tells us there was not found a suitable one for Adam, no suitable company or companion for Adam, then God said, it is now at this point I want us to read it. Some of you women when I'm through with this you'll be in a hurry to marry

Are you in Genesis? Alright chapter 2, Genesis chapter 2, from verse 18 and the Lord God said, it is not good that the man should be alone, say the word alone, alone. He didn't say it is not good that the man should be lonely. There's a big difference between being alone and being lonely he was not lonely, he was alone and when you say alone it means alone about something. Let's go on. What God said? It is not good that the man should be alone I will make him I will make him a partner. Come on talk to me. A partner? I will make him a supervisor?
No, the way some people are, I mean you see the man, the man's going and the woman is right behind you know like a supervisor. He didn't say I'll make him a supervisor. Look at your Bible again. I will make him a help. I'll make him a help. The Hebrew word is Asia, it means help, a help meet for him, help, help, a help, a help, a help qualified for him. A help, I will make him a help because he was alone. I will make him somebody to help him. I will make him somebody to help him. Why? Because God gave him a responsibility, he needed a help, not somebody to tell him what to do but a help. What's the matter with you.

If that is easily understood in every home, I don't think you have problems. I tell people you don't need a marriage seminar, you need a word seminar. If you just listen to the word of God, you wont have all this fighting. It pays to do what God says. Your strength is in being God's place where He puts you, that's your strength. Let me tell you, no husband wants another mother. Get it now, your husband doesn't want another mother. He's had one all his life. He doesn't want an older sister, he probably had one. Your secret, is in obedience, your secret, is in listening to your husband, your secret, is in doing those things that please him. When you don't do those things that please your husband, you take the role of a mother or you take the role of an older sister. What happens automatically is, he starts seeing you differently. The reaction he has for those that tried to tell him what to do, will be the reactions he'll have towards you, then you start saying I don't understand him, you will now become anyhow. You know the meaning of anyhow? First you would dress as you choose because he doesn't tell you what to do. You act as you choose because he doesn't tell you what to do you do, you do what you like because you are your own boss and you know what? A man, loves the one he serves and the one that serves him. He fights the one, that is at the level with him. You see it, so when you find your husband trying to tell you who's the owner, who is the owner of this car, you say ah ah, are we are, are we not together. You are supposed to be together but there's a problem when someone starts telling you I'm older than you. There's a reason, there's a reason because it's supposed to be obvious it means you're in rebellion and he's trying to re-emphasize some things for you. Don't create, don't make your life hard, listen to me, to be happy in your home and in your marriage is the easiest thing in the world. Just take your role, take your place, that place that God gave you is a beautiful place. Is a place of peace, is a place of love, is a place of excellence. When you come out of it, you find, it's not a husband you, you have. You call him a husband but it's not a husband. It's like what Jesus said, they call me Lord Lord but they don't do what I tell them to do. Actually every wise person listens to wise voices but he will listen to a wise voice that is presented wisely. Everyone rebels against the voice that tries to make a fool out of him so even when you tell I remember SG Elton an old man of God years ago, a Briton who came to live in Nigeria for many years before he died, he made a statement who in the meeting with him and he said the best way to destroy what you're trying to say is to try to teach your teachers, so you destroy what you're trying to say. For some of you the..."
- Oyakhilome YouTube video excerpt

The president and founder of Christ Embassy church, Chris Oyakhilome, as seen from the above YouTube video clip excerpts has been preaching this lopsided, unevenly balanced, biased and distorted in a way that is makes it inaccurate, unfair, misleading and indirectly talking about his wife and rocky marriage since 2014 and even after the uneventful breakdown of same marriage on April 9, 2014, when his now ex-wife filed for divorce at the Central Family Court in London.

Oyakhilome repeats giving this wrong information and teaches again, on Rhapsody Of Realities in 2016 and also in a sermon titled "Who is a HUSBAND and what is His Role?" in same 2016, that husband does not mean the male partner in a marriage, but husband means master.

This is teaching gone totally and terribly bad because, husband, in the Bible, doesnt mean and never means master. The original Hebrew word that we get the English translation, husband from, is "ish". "Ish" means, man, as in, the woman, in the truest sense of the word, literally has herself a man. It doesnt as Oyakhilome erroneously puts it, means master. The equivalent Greek word "aner" that we get the English translation, husband from, also too, means, man

It is by the grace of God, that men have the gift that enables them to fit in, be in harmony and click with a badass strong, successful, powerful and intelligent woman. I love badass strong, successful, powerful and intelligent woman. It is one of the things, what attracts and attracted me to my missus and I thank God for letting me be one those guys who believes that you need a badass strong, successful, powerful and intelligent virtuous woman in my life

Contrary to another erroneous thing Oyakhilome says too, that women were an afterthought, that also is a right load of old codswallop. Men are from earth and women are from earth, so whats the big deal in that, hmm? The woman, as a matter of fact, is God's pièce de résistance. She is the best and most important creation, an exciting thing, that happened last in a series of creational things. Praise thy Lord! Hallelujah!!.

Man and woman, might have different roles to play and its true their roles might be different, but their rights are equal. Of course, the man is the head, but the woman is the neck too, and she as the neck, can turn the head whichever way she pleases. Man doesnt need to or have to demand submissiveness of his wife, because this has to come naturally by the woman's own volition and not by hook or by crook methods, like the ones preached by the president and founder of Christ Embassy church, Chris Oyakhilome. If you let your head get too big, it'll break your neck and he who waits for the sword to fall upon his neck, will surely lose his head. Cover and protect your wives. Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her.

MyVILLAGEpeople:
Why are u mentioning Donnie now

Damyonline:
President and founder of Christ Embassy church, Chris Oyakhilome preaches at his church saying, "Woman was not God's original idea."

Pastor Chris Oyakhilome can be heard saying,

The reason God made woman was because of man
He made the woman because if the man that is why he made the woman
so woman was not his original idea, this is reality
ok scripture, let's see what the Bible says;
When God had made everything and he then had made Adam, everything was VERY GOOD
Already, everything was very good, no problem.
Then he got Adam... listen... ok...

If most women had their fathers bold enough to talk to them, they would be more successful in marriage and they will be very happy.

Most women have never been taalked to by their parents, their father especially
That's their biggest problem they dont know who a man is, they think he is another woman see...in a marriage, you are the man, who is the head of that union
and because he is the head of that union, it is important to understand him
now you think he is the one that needs to understand his wife, that is where you are wrong he will but until you know the man who you have married, the man that came..

it is like working for somebody and not knowing what he wants...

Watch video here>>> https://lailasnews.com/woman-was-not-gods-original-idea-pastor-chris-oyakhilome-video/


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8JUMbu1zDo

Silver9:
In the 21st century the devil is cloaked in a liberal garment where he twists the Word of GOD to suits the rebellious and proud spirit of man. And you're his chief apostle.

Now, son of lucifer, where did you get this idea as quoted?:

"Woman's problem began when she made man take the place of God in her life, for God her Maker was supposed to be her original Lord and Master, not man who was just her husband."

"For that was what led her to disobedience of God's Word in the beginning."

From the begining women's problem began as a result of lust and greed. And she yielded unto the voice of the serpent and led man into sin.

You're as satanic as they come. Heretic, blasphemous anti-CHRIST.

The head of a woman is man, and the head of man is CHRIST and the head of CHRIST is GOD (1 corinthians 11:3). These are divine established orders and principle and It is not subject to modern debate.

Born2Breed:
If you are giving a lecture as a speaker you must address all issues in totality without exempting some for easy comprehension and interpretation.

He said the man is the MASTER, then the wife is what?