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Re: Is Life Really Better Abroad? by eslynera(f): 11:48am On Jan 10, 2007
MMMh just because countries out there are more developed, so i'm sure you'd love to develope too. cheesy
Re: Is Life Really Better Abroad? by TheOne2(m): 3:42pm On Jan 10, 2007
@sage, Ndipe, Somebody

I laughed and am still laughing when I read your posts. Do you guys actually think nobody pays an undergraduate degree holder 7.5 million naira in Nigeria? No wonder you post all kinds of mistruths here. I will not be drawn into an argument on that, I don't even have the patience for it. I'll only ask you a question: Do you know that oil companies are globalized? Do you know that slaries are comparable across board whther you are in the US, UK or Nigeria? I read a thread where people were quoting all sorts as salaries in the oil industry in Nigeria. Well you don't know until you are there. I'll only say this: Nigeria is not like the UK and US where salaries are absolute. When somebody writes BASIC SALARY of 4 million naira per annum, that represents under 60% of you TOTAL RENUMERATION most of which is untaxed. You have a lot of allowances which make up the rest. Maybe some other time I can explain why this is so.

I understand where you are coming from now. For you to think that somebody with an undergraduate degree is not paid as much in Nigeria, JEEEEZ.

Do you guys know that there are young men making millions monthly in Nigeria? When I say that I don't mean paid jobs. I mean BUSINESS. I don't understand why you will find it difficult to comprehend. Or is it that we relate with different circles of folks back home?

@Somebody, I only used 30,000 pounds as an instance. The truth is, whether 30,000 or 40,000 pounds it all doesn't make much of a difference. It doesn't matter whether you've worked in heaven, nobody in the oil industry in the UK will pay somebody with less than 2 years experience more than 35,000 pounds. Ask people who ACTUALLY work there and don't depend on hearsays.

There's no need going on with this. Believe what you'll believe and I'll believe what I believe (which I know to be true). Posterity will judge.

Meet you guys on some other thread.
Re: Is Life Really Better Abroad? by somebody(f): 10:22pm On Jan 10, 2007
theone, I know companies pay undergrads N7.5 million in naija, two of my friends even got better than that last year. If I did not know anything about Nigeria then you can come and start giving me those stories you want idiots to believe. I am very in touch with Nigeria, just even got back from hols so I know what I am talking about. How many graduates would earn N7.5 million. Try going to the jobs section of nairaland and see how many peope would be grateful for a job that pays N50,000 a month.
Re: Is Life Really Better Abroad? by somebody(f): 10:23pm On Jan 10, 2007
theone, I don't rely on hearsays as I work in the oil sector here so don't start quoting salaries that don't make sense.
Re: Is Life Really Better Abroad? by chimaze(m): 10:33pm On Jan 10, 2007
@somebody,

I thought you work in Investment Banking? Are you now working for an oil company?
Re: Is Life Really Better Abroad? by somebody(f): 10:59pm On Jan 10, 2007
Please quote for me where I said I work in Investment Banking.
Re: Is Life Really Better Abroad? by seeker(m): 8:08am On Jan 11, 2007
Somebody,

I see you are intent on battering this topic to death. Well done O! grin tongue
Re: Is Life Really Better Abroad? by Nobody: 9:06am On Jan 11, 2007
es
Re: Is Life Really Better Abroad? by somebody(f): 10:21am On Jan 11, 2007
@seeker, I usually just let things lie but people's posts on this topic seriously annoy me. Many Nigerians are ignorant and fail to open their minds once they believe something(true or untrue). It might be the reason for the state Nigeria is in.
Re: Is Life Really Better Abroad? by Nobody: 11:20am On Jan 11, 2007
yes life is better abroad
Re: Is Life Really Better Abroad? by oribi(m): 10:38am On Jan 12, 2007
no nid to make a fuzz,dependin on where ur located,d main substance is to know n locate where ur really goin 2 b comfortable, is dat easy,
Re: Is Life Really Better Abroad? by bigbumper(f): 3:31am On Jan 13, 2007
chimaze:

@somebody,

I thought you work in Investment Banking? Are you now working for an oil company?

grin grin grin Chima you be agbaya, but that's my sentiment exactly grin grin grin
Re: Is Life Really Better Abroad? by somebody(f): 11:42am On Jan 16, 2007
big_bumper, since you share his sentiments too, please also help him find where on this site I have stated I work in Investment Banking.
Re: Is Life Really Better Abroad? by zebudaya(m): 12:35am On Jan 17, 2007
somebody i really like the way you made your point.


The dudes making money in naija have connections, i've said it before nobody is going to tell you the true story of what they are doing, for fear you may hate on them or worse concoct some juju. I really think there are more oppportunites in America, and i would wholeheartedly support anyone who wants to leave naija as long as you are ready to go to school even if it is nursing for 12 months and keep your hands clean. this culture is very unforgiving especially when you're foriegn and black and you have an accent.
Re: Is Life Really Better Abroad? by Tmoni(m): 3:29pm On Jan 18, 2007
you can look at it from divergent angles,
developed countries and nigeria are different,
uk- less stressful life but does not encourage savings or getting above the middle class level

nigeria, stressful(amount depends on location), encourages savings and better class, at least u do not have to pay tv-license, council tax,[17.5%vat on thrash], outrageous tax rate and other incomprehensible extorting avenues.
a friend of mine just went back home to a N6m basic pay chevron job (allowances to folow)

generally comparing it to oil industry here,
at a careers fair, shell was boasting of paying GPB28,000 before tax to fresh graduates,
i prefer going back to nigeria after school,
shakes his head[size=8pt][/size], cant wait for this masters to be over and go back to motherland
Re: Is Life Really Better Abroad? by alabiyemmy(m): 9:21am On Feb 04, 2007
Take away the infrastructure - beside that, life is better at home compared to anywhere else.
Re: Is Life Really Better Abroad? by NiteAngel(m): 1:25am On Feb 07, 2007
Life is a bed of risk.

As 9ja abroad you have to be ready to take your position as a second class citizen. If you go with ori-olori (head of person head grin) you'll run for as long as it takes; maybe answer to someone else' name for the rest of your life. Accountants are running cab business abroad, doctors are on shift as night guards, designers are keeping the streets free of trash. Yet some have a pride of place or na place of pride.

If you are abroad by God-design by all means stay there and polish the Nigerian image. If you are there by self-design find your way back home, make peace with your soul.
Re: Is Life Really Better Abroad? by lioness(f): 9:16am On Feb 08, 2007
grin grin grin grin
best post on this thread
Re: Is Life Really Better Abroad? by 1star4ever(m): 7:44pm On Feb 08, 2007
cool
Re: Is Life Really Better Abroad? by 9ja4eva: 7:25am On Feb 24, 2007
Nite Angel:

Life is a bed of risk.

As Nigeria abroad you have to be ready to take your position as a second class citizen. If you go with ori-olori (head of person head grin) you'll run for as long as it takes; maybe answer to someone else' name for the rest of your life. Accountants are running cab business abroad, doctors are on shift as night guards, designers are keeping the streets free of trash. Yet some have a pride of place or na place of pride.

If you are abroad by God-design by all means stay there and polish the Nigerian image. If you are there by self-design find your way back home, make peace with your soul.

You said it all.What a post.
Re: Is Life Really Better Abroad? by 1star4ever(m): 12:17am On Feb 28, 2007
cool
What about those Nigerians that have U.S. or U.K. masters and doctorate degrees. I know some of them. They live big. So, finding a better place
to live will have to do with what you have done academically or financially for that place. There are also some with masters degree in the U.S. that are not doing well and those with out it that are rich.

So what it comes down to is being smart and having your way of making cash
Re: Is Life Really Better Abroad? by 9ja4eva: 5:07am On Mar 01, 2007
Life is better anywhere it jst depends on how well you plan and work hard.
Re: Is Life Really Better Abroad? by tafari(m): 5:07am On Mar 05, 2007
alabiyemmy:

Take away the infrastructure - beside that, life is better at home compared to anywhere else.

you spoke my mind!
Re: Is Life Really Better Abroad? by 9ja4eva: 7:07am On Mar 05, 2007
Exactly
Re: Is Life Really Better Abroad? by Akolawole(m): 9:21am On Mar 06, 2007
@All

I cant just believe this thread is still on.

@TheOne
What can i say?
This is a public forum, Expect anything.
It is very very possible that somebody who live in Abakaliki, who has never been to Lagos but regularly comment on Victoria Island as if he lives and works in the Island.
Re: Is Life Really Better Abroad? by 9ja4eva: 9:29am On Mar 06, 2007
lol
Re: Is Life Really Better Abroad? by Akolawole(m): 9:30am On Mar 06, 2007
@Seun

I would like you to help us arrange a poll for some of us who resides in Nigeria titled " Are you in Abject poverty?"

May be that would help our abroad-based brothers and sisters.
Re: Is Life Really Better Abroad? by Ndipe(m): 9:30am On Mar 06, 2007
@Akolawole, your comment about some people writing about places they probably have never been to was quite funny.
Re: Is Life Really Better Abroad? by 9ja4eva: 9:35am On Mar 06, 2007
Hes not wrong oh hes right cos dts wat most do.
Re: Is Life Really Better Abroad? by domwas2(m): 3:01pm On Mar 06, 2007
Don't RUN abroad, stay and eat what your fathers planted in the land
U guys should stop kidding me-ok, there is No place in the world that is 100% perfect from others. talking abt social amenities,Nigeria is growing up since 1960 not to compare her to other countries in abroad that gots their independence many years ago.
the birth of a country should be put into consideration, You can't just wakes up oneday and compare a new born baby to his father.
and remember, b4 a country worth living, their great grand father most have passed thru difficult time. . .

The people in abroad are enjoying the sacrifies made by their father, So stay in your country and plant a seed down for your younger generation/children and stop being selfish going to abroad to be a pertaker of what you know. . . , So your children generation wouldn't curse you in the nearest future.
Re: Is Life Really Better Abroad? by 9ja4eva: 1:56am On Mar 07, 2007
You right.
Re: Is Life Really Better Abroad? by romeo(m): 2:56pm On Apr 01, 2007
Money day for Europe ohhh and i hereby call on all black brothers and sisters in Europe to grab all they can lay their hands on in western world because they took even humans from Africa, not to talk of the resources and they are still on it

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