orunto27:
The Holy Bible KJV remains sancrosanct as it was in the beginning, now and forever.

The Bible was not written in KJV originally...

Besides, the entire words of God cannot be completely recorded in merely 66 books...

For example, the Ethiopian Bible has over 80 books, will you say such a Bible is faulty and full of heresies?

providence338:


I don't know where you got the idea that the law began with Moses, but I know you didn't get it from me.
Please see my post to Goshen360. He basically said the same thing you did.
And I told him he proved my point.
Careful examination of Ezekiel 28:16 proves the LAW was in existence in the HEAVENS before man was even created.

For a start, what was Paul referring to as the Law in his letters?


What Law was the Apostles and the early church debating about in Acts 15?

The Mosaic Law...

OkCornel:
Another thing I see at play here is, those who support the law thinks the knowledge of good and evil started with the 10 commandments and other Mosaic Laws... whereas, man knew what was right from wrong right from the garden of Eden.

Before the Laws of Moses, Cain knew he committed evil by murdering Abel. Joseph knew it was wrong to sleep with Potiphar's wife. Job (who was never under the Mosaic Law) knew what was good and did it, but eschewed evil and many other examples...

Even ancient legal codes before the Mosaic law like the Hammurabi code, The Code of the Nesilim, The 7 Laws of Noah e.t.c clearly shows man's knowledge of good and evil. Matters like murder, incest, bestiality e.t.c. were covered in those legal codes as taboos and evils among the gentile nations...

People were able to walk with God and please Him prior to the Law (Mosaic Law), same too applies even after the era of the Law (Mosaic Law)...

Your mistake is that you always think the law of Moses is what Moses coined. No, he only documented it. It has always been God's law right from the beginning. Any other gentile law that conforms with it can only be said to have copied it. Except you want to say God copied from theirs. God forbid.

You also make it seem like God's law started with Moses. Then what was God saying when he was instructing Adam against eating the fruit of knowledge of good and of evil? He was simply giving him a law. But you make it sound like the knowledge of the law started with Adam eating the fruit. No. God's law started before he ate the fruit.

OkCornel:


The Bible was not written in KJV originally...

Besides, the entire words of God cannot be completely recorded in merely 66 books...

For example, the Ethiopian Bible has over 80 books, will you say such a Bible is faulty and full of heresies?

The Bible was written in the manuscript the KJV was translated from and it had only 66 books. Any other manuscript is satanic or book is satanic e.g the Ethiopian Bible you are speaking of.

You and all those who believe the word of God goes beyond the 66 books are liars and satanic. You have come under God's wrath for adding to his word. I guess you already know that being the Satanist you are. No wonder you believe in extra-biblical sources. Shame.

LifestyleTonite:


The Bible was written in the manuscript the KJV was translated from and it had only 66 books. Any other manuscript is satanic or book is satanic e.g the Ethiopian Bible you are speaking of.

You and all those who believe the word of God goes beyond the 66 books are liars and satanic. You have come under God's wrath for adding to his word. I guess you already know that being the Satanist you are. No wonder you believe in extra-biblical sources. Shame.

alBHAGDA.DI's alternate moniker is here...


Telling us that the word of God is only 66 books shows you for the joke that you are...


The book of Jasher for example was clearly referenced in the book of Joshua, but not included in the Bible...

The book of Jude also made references to the book of Enoch which is also not part of the 66 books of the Bible...

Go and do some research before displaying your ignorance here..

LifestyleTonite:


The Bible was written in the manuscript the KJV was translated from and it had only 66 books. Any other manuscript is satanic or book is satanic e.g the Ethiopian Bible you are speaking of.

You and all those who believe the word of God goes beyond the 66 books are liars and satanic. You have come under God's wrath for adding to his word. I guess you already know that being the Satanist you are. No wonder you believe in extra-biblical sources. Shame.

And I am going to report this post...I've had enough of this false claims of being called a Satanist...


It seems your version of Christianity is hell bent on accusing people falsely, just like your alternate monikers...

LifestyleTonite:


Your mistake is that you always think the law of Moses is what Moses coined. No, he only documented it. It has always been God's law right from the beginning. Any other gentile law that conforms with it can only be said to have copied it. Except you want to say God copied from theirs. God forbid.

You also make it seem like God's law started with Moses. Then what was God saying when he was instructing Adam against eating the fruit of knowledge of good and of evil? He was simply giving him a law. But you make it sound like the knowledge of the law started with Adam eating the fruit. No. God's law started before he ate the fruit.

Man's knowledge of good and evil started after they ate from the tree of knowledge of good and evil... simple and straightforward...


Now, read through the letters of Paul and the debate on the Law that happened in the early church in Acts 15. What was Paul and the Apostles referring to as the Law? It's the Mosaic Law... Simple and straightforward.

LifestyleTonite:


Your mistake is that you always think the law of Moses is what Moses coined. No, he only documented it. It has always been God's law right from the beginning. Any other gentile law that conforms with it can only be said to have copied it. Except you want to say God copied from theirs. God forbid.

You also make it seem like God's law started with Moses. Then what was God saying when he was instructing Adam against eating the fruit of knowledge of good and of evil? He was simply giving him a law. But you make it sound like the knowledge of the law started with Adam eating the fruit. No. God's law started before he ate the fruit.

Now I know you are very ignorant. There are ancient legal codes well documented before the Mosaic Law...

Examples are the code of the Nesilim and the Hammurabi code...


Go and do research...na lie... Always arguing ignorantly...

OkCornel:


Man's knowledge of good and evil started after they ate from the tree of knowledge of good and evil... simple and straightforward...


Now, read through the letters of Paul and the debate on the Law that happened in the early church in Acts 15. What was Paul and the Apostles referring to as the Law? It's the Mosaic Law... Simple and straightforward.

We are not talking of when the knowledge of good and evil started. We are talking of when the law started to exist. It started right before the creation of man. Ezekiel 28:18. It even started before Adam and Eve ate the fruit of the knowledge of good and evil, when God gave a law against eating it.

Your usual tactics: Trying to drag me into what I was never arguing with you. Ho and discuss that who whoever you are arguing with. Perhaps, your aim is to start using one verse in a recycled manner

OkCornel:


alBHAGDA.DI's alternate moniker is here...


Telling us that the word of God is only 66 books shows you for the joke that you are...


The book of Jasher for example was clearly referenced in the book of Joshua, but not included in the Bible...

The book of Jude also made references to the book of Enoch which is also not part of the 66 books of the Bible...

Go and do some research before displaying your ignorance here..

Keep quite.

Shown us the reference so that the world can see how wrong you are.

Why are you afraid of spelling alBHAGDadi's name correctly? You don't want him to come here and knock your head?

OkCornel:



And I am going to report this post...I've had enough of this false claims of being called a Satanist...


It seems your version of Christianity is hell bent on accusing people falsely, just like your alternate monikers...

Your own version of satanism is hell bent on saying I'm albahdad's alternate moniker.

OkCornel:



Now I know you are very ignorant. There are ancient legal codes well documented before the Mosaic Law...

Examples are the code of the Nesilim and the Hammurabi code...


Go and do research...na lie... Always arguing ignorantly...

Mumu

So you are saying God copied from them?

LifestyleTonite:


Mumu

So you are saying God copied from them?

Research first. The code of the Nesilim and the Hammurabi code came out way before the Mosaic Law....


Research and see who the mumu is here.

Bring your evidence to show us the Mosaic Law predated these laws...

LifestyleTonite:


Your own version of satanism is hell bent on saying I'm albahdad's alternate moniker.

You want to lie to us you're not albhagdadi's alternate moniker?


Link me to anything Satanism ...and your post gets reported. Enough is enough...

LifestyleTonite:


Keep quite.

Shown us the reference so that the world can see how wrong you are.

Why are you afraid of spelling alBHAGDadi's name correctly? You don't want him to come here and knock your head?

What's there to fear in calling out your alternate moniker alBHAGDADI...

LifestyleTonite:


We are not talking of when the knowledge of good and evil started. We are talking of when the law started to exist. It started right before the creation of man. Ezekiel 28:18. It even started before Adam and Eve ate the fruit of the knowledge of good and evil, when God gave a law against eating it.

Your usual tactics: Trying to drag me into what I was never arguing with you. Ho and discuss that who whoever you are arguing with. Perhaps, your aim is to start using one verse in a recycled manner

Simple question, you're beating around the bush...

What Law was Paul referring to in his letters? What Law were the Apostles and the early church debating on in Acts 15?

The highest form of stupidity is where I see someone arguing that only 66 selected books is the complete word of God... and anything outside that is not.


I mean...an eternal living God that has been existing even before the foundations of the universe was laid has all His words limited to 66 books?


What a joke

LifestyleTonite:


Keep quite.

Shown us the reference so that the world can see how wrong you are.

Why are you afraid of spelling alBHAGDadi's name correctly? You don't want him to come here and knock your head?

This should show you how exceedingly ignorant you are.


This is the part of the book of Joshua that made reference to the book of Jasher...

Joshua 10 v 13;
13 And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, until the people had avenged themselves upon their enemies. Is not this written in the book of Jasher? So the sun stood still in the midst of heaven, and hasted not to go down about a whole day.

Even the book of Samuel referred to Jasher as well;

2 Samuel 1 v 18;
18 (Also he bade them teach the children of Judah the use of the bow: behold, it is written in the book of Jasher.)


And guess what, Jasher was not part of your so called 66 books of the Bible...


Research and stop showcasing your ignorance...


Or you want to tell us the book of Jasher is not also the words of God?

providence338:
If they have been then...

1. We can have other gods before Him
2. We can worship idols
3. We can blaspheme
4. We can forget the sabbath and not keep it holy
5. We can dishonor our mother and father
6. We can murder
7. We can committ adultery
8. We can steal
9. We can lie
10. We can covet....

What is sin according to God's Word? Sin is the transgression of His LAW (1 John 3:4). This is New Testament. Apparently the Law was still applicable after the death of Christ. Every author of the NT observed the Law (Torah), yes, even Paul who many twist his writings to their own destruction (2 Peter 3:16).

Every author of the NT, even Christ himself observed the Sabbath, abstained from unclean foods and observed the Feast Days.
We in the church have been taught that the sabbath is Sunday, anything we eat is clean, and to worship false gods like Ishtar (easter) and Nimrod (christmas). These are satanic folly days, rooted in Babylon worship. It's time for the deception to end. Yah is honoring those who are waking up in these end times to follow His laws, His statutes and His commandments. They are good and perfect and changeth not. Amen.

cc: Dencotext -- There is PHYSICAL ISRAEL. Then there is SPIRITUAL ISRAEL. If there were not, then you wouldn't see in the scriptures Jew (Israelites) and Gentile. Natural and Wild Branches. Circumcision and Uncircumcision. If PHYSICAL ISRAEL didn't matter, then the 144K wouldn't comprise of the 12 TRIBES OF ISRAEL. Nor would each gate for every righteous believer, Israelite or otherwise, to enter the New Jerusalem comprise of the 12 TRIBES OF ISREAL. Don't go by what you've been taught. Go by what thus sayeth the LORD. Apparently PHYSICAL ISRAEL still matters much to Him and He has not forgotten them. Not now not ever. Read Jeremiah 31. ALL OF IT. Particularly 31:36-37, and all of its precepts. I noticed you used the word "Israelis". There is no such thing as "Israelis". The Bible carries no such word. Abba father gave His chosen the name ISRAELITES which is in the Bible. Based on your reply, you still haven't grasped that the people occupying the Holy Land are gentiles/ "Israelis", NOT ISRAELITES. "Israelis" observe the satanic Talmud, Israelites observe the TORAH (Law) because it was entrusted to them as a nation from the times of Moses as a springboard to spread the gospel of Christ to the world. Big difference. Satan always uses a counterfeit (Israelis) to imitate the real (Israelites).


cc: EMILO2STAY -- Did you read "THE LAW SHALL GO FORTH FROM ZION AND THE WORD OF THE LORD FROM JERUSALEM" (Isa 2:3, Mic 4:2)? Read frontward and backwards for its fuller context. These are God's words, not mine. What does this particular scripture mean to you?

The fifth to tenth on the list,many people adhere to,not because of your holy book but because our conscience and sheer morality shuns them...so don't give plaudits to your book yet...
The first four is clearly ignored by many...isn't it crystal clear?

Jude v 14-15 directly referenced the book of Enoch;

14 And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints,

15 To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard speeches which ungodly sinners have spoken against him.

But guess what, the book of Enoch is not part of the 66 books...



I do not regard the Ethiopian Bible as the complete word of God as well simply because all the words of the Uncreated and Eternal God cannot be documented in a single book...The Ethiopian Bible has over 80 books compared to the 66 books most Christians are familiar with...It is the most complete version of "the Bible" in existence...

For someone to argue that an eternal living God has his words limited to a number of books is the greatest joke of all time...

OkCornel:


Research first. The code of the Nesilim and the Hammurabi code came out way before the Mosaic Law....


Research and see who the mumu is here.

Bring your evidence to show us the Mosaic Law predated these laws...

you cant compare the Nesilim and Hammurabi code with the law of moses.

The Code of Nesilim (Imperial Hittites) is an ancient Hittite (Nesili) legal code dating from c. 1650 – 1500 BCE. [1][2][3][4] This contained the laws that reflected the Hittite empire 's social structure, sense of justice, and morality, addressing common outlawed actions such as assault, theft, murder, witchcraft, and divorce, among others. It is particularly notable due to a number of its provisions, covering social issues that included the humane treatment of slaves. Although they were considered lesser than free men, the slaves under the code were allowed to choose whomever they wanted to marry, buy property, open businesses, and purchase their freedom. [5] In comparison with The Code of Assura of the Code of Hammurabi , the Code of Nesilim also provided less-severe punishments for the code's violations. [5]
While it is not known who exactly authored the legal document, some historians believe that its source was someone important or of high power in the Hittite society and this could even be a king. [6] The ancient legal document was posted online by Paul Halsall, [6] a professor at Fordham University as part of his Internet History Sourcebooks Project.

the Nesilim code is not inspired but the law of moses was inspired.

you cannot compare God inspired laws with man made laws and ordinances.

OkCornel:
The highest form of stupidity is where I see someone arguing that only 66 selected books is the complete word of God... and anything outside that is not.

the 66 books of the bible is the complete word of God.

I mean...an eternal living God that has been existing even before the foundations of the universe was laid has all His words limited to 66 books?

yes of course. the fact you dont believe it does not alter the fact.

What a joke

it is no joke, your eternity depends on it.

The bible is God's complete word to mankind.


2 Timothy 3:16-17 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.

OkCornel:


This should show you how exceedingly ignorant you are.


This is the part of the book of Joshua that made reference to the book of Jasher...

Joshua 10 v 13;
13 And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, until the people had avenged themselves upon their enemies. Is not this written in the book of Jasher? So the sun stood still in the midst of heaven, and hasted not to go down about a whole day.

Even the book of Samuel referred to Jasher as well;

2 Samuel 1 v 18;
18 (Also he bade them teach the children of Judah the use of the bow: behold, it is written in the book of Jasher.)


And guess what, Jasher was not part of your so called 66 books of the Bible...


Research and stop showcasing your ignorance...


Or you want to tell us the book of Jasher is not also the words of God?

is it every book that recorded history that is the word of God?

OkCornel:


This should show you how exceedingly ignorant you are.


This is the part of the book of Joshua that made reference to the book of Jasher...

Joshua 10 v 13;
13 And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, until the people had avenged themselves upon their enemies. Is not this written in the book of Jasher? So the sun stood still in the midst of heaven, and hasted not to go down about a whole day.

Even the book of Samuel referred to Jasher as well;

2 Samuel 1 v 18;
18 (Also he bade them teach the children of Judah the use of the bow: behold, it is written in the book of Jasher.)


And guess what, Jasher was not part of your so called 66 books of the Bible...


Research and stop showcasing your ignorance...


Or you want to tell us the book of Jasher is not also the words of God?

Where in those verses is it written that the book of jasher is the word of God? Just because it was referenced doesn't mean it is a book that should be part of the Bible. It's same as including sand in the Bible because Jesus wrote on sand.

Nowhere is it written that the book of Jasher is the word of God. It could be a register, a note or book of events, just as many existed then. Nowhere is it stated that it is the word of God. Except you want to tell me that Satan succeeded in hiding some word of God from the children of God. That's a lie.

OkCornel:



Simple question, you're beating around the bush...

What Law was Paul referring to in his letters? What Law were the Apostles and the early church debating on in Acts 15?

Stop asking me. It's not an argument me and you are having. Perhaps, you are already recycling the verse.

OkCornel:


You want to lie to us you're not albhagdadi's alternate moniker?


Link me to anything Satanism ...and your post gets reported. Enough is enough...

You don't want to be called a Satanist, which you are, yet you call me albahdad's alternate?

Mr Satanist

Seated:
is it every book that recorded history that is the word of God?

Don't mind that Satanist. He and his evil people, simply because they saw a reference to a certain book of Jasher, they quickly rushed to write a fake and evil book and gave it that same name just to deceive people to read it. Only gullible people would think the book of Jasher, which might be just a book of records, is the word of God. The Satanist in him is basically saying Christians are walking about with am incomplete sword, an incomplete word of God. How satanic can one be.

OkCornel:
The highest form of stupidity is where I see someone arguing that only 66 selected books is the complete word of God... and anything outside that is not.


I mean...an eternal living God that has been existing even before the foundations of the universe was laid has all His words limited to 66 books?


What a joke

@bold

When I call you a Satanist, you get angry simply because you know that's what you are. Is anything wrong with all God's word being in only 66 books? No, there isn't anything wrong with that cos that's how he wants it. Any other book aside the 66 books are the works of Satan your master. All those other books have been tested and found wanting. Many of them deny the Trinity, some say Jesus had a wife and children, some say he never died nor resurrected etc. The Quran also claims to be the word of God. When tested, it is seen to be a false book and Satan inspired. All the 66 books of the Bible agree with one another, but these extra books disagree with themselves and also witj the 66 books.

But a Satanist like you wants us to read lies by your master.

Seated:
you c

the Nesilim code is not inspired but the law of moses was inspired.

you cannot compare God inspired laws with man made laws and ordinances.

The satanism in him will do that because he believes God copied from man made laws. What shameless being.

OkCornel:
Jude v 14-15 directly referenced the book of Enoch;

14 And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints,

15 To execute judgment upon all, and to convince all that are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have ungodly committed, and of all their hard speeches which ungodly sinners have spoken against him.

But guess what, the book of Enoch is not part of the 66 books...



I do not regard the Ethiopian Bible as the complete word of God as well simply because all the words of the Uncreated and Eternal God cannot be documented in a single book...The Ethiopian Bible has over 80 books compared to the 66 books most Christians are familiar with...It is the most complete version of "the Bible" in existence...

For someone to argue that an eternal living God has his words limited to a number of books is the greatest joke of all time...

Nothing is said about a “book of Enoch.” There is no phrase such as, “it is written in the book of Enoch.” Nothing at all is indicated about any literary production.

So therefore, Jude was only quoting the unrecorded words of Enoch as given unto him by the Holy Spirit. Same Way Paul quoted the words of Jesus which we can't find in any of the four gospels.

Acts 20:35 (KJV)
I have shewed you all things, how that so labouring ye ought to support the weak, and to remember the words of the Lord Jesus, how he said, it is more blessed to give than to receive.

Your carefully learn satanic weapons got busted again.

Seated:
you cant compare the Nesilim and Hammurabi code with the law of moses.

The Code of Nesilim (Imperial Hittites) is an ancient Hittite (Nesili) legal code dating from c. 1650 – 1500 BCE. [1][2][3][4] This contained the laws that reflected the Hittite empire 's social structure, sense of justice, and morality, addressing common outlawed actions such as assault, theft, murder, witchcraft, and divorce, among others. It is particularly notable due to a number of its provisions, covering social issues that included the humane treatment of slaves. Although they were considered lesser than free men, the slaves under the code were allowed to choose whomever they wanted to marry, buy property, open businesses, and purchase their freedom. [5] In comparison with The Code of Assura of the Code of Hammurabi , the Code of Nesilim also provided less-severe punishments for the code's violations. [5]
While it is not known who exactly authored the legal document, some historians believe that its source was someone important or of high power in the Hittite society and this could even be a king. [6] The ancient legal document was posted online by Paul Halsall, [6] a professor at Fordham University as part of his Internet History Sourcebooks Project.

the Nesilim code is not inspired but the law of moses was inspired.

you cannot compare God inspired laws with man made laws and ordinances.

Why can't we compare?

First off, the code of the Nesilim for example forbade incest and bestiality long before the Mosaic Law was written. The code of the Nesilim predates the Mosaic Law. Or do you disagree with this?



Now do you recall that part of Romans where Paul said that though the gentiles never had the Law, by their nature they still did things written in the Law?

LifestyleTonite:


Where in those verses is it written that the book of jasher is the word of God? Just because it was referenced doesn't mean it is a book that should be part of the Bible. It's same as including sand in the Bible because Jesus wrote on sand.

Nowhere is it written that the book of Jasher is the word of God. It could be a register, a note or book of events, just as many existed then. Nowhere is it stated that it is the word of God. Except you want to tell me that Satan succeeded in hiding some word of God from the children of God. That's a lie.

You have not even read the book of Jasher and you're busy arguing...

The book of Jasher also forms part of rabbinical literature amongst the ancient Jews. It also gives a detailed account corroborating what happened from Genesis up to the book of Joshua...


I can't spend my time arguing with someone who knows nothing about the book of Jasher still coming to tell us it is not the word of God.


Please tell me such a book is not inspired of God as well...


What a joke...