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realtalk19:


How about violent men and men who is not responsible for the child's welfare and believes the mother shuld be the one to take up his responsibility while he squanders his money on irrrelivant things.

Will he be bold enough to to admit he wasn't responsible and couldn't take care of them like a father should?

Will he admit he was violent and irresponsible by always beating up the child's mother who eventually had to leave the marriage for the safety of hersslf and child?

I believe everyone of us quite understand the context of a violent husband/father but we're not deliberating on that here.

We're discussing 'manipulating mothers'.

wow! how original.

You don’t have two brain cells to rub together to contribute anything meaningful to this thread, so you decided to quote me with the old and tired “she’s being emotional” sexist slur.

GLYCOLYSISS:

Emotions !
Guys,pls ignore these lady,she got nothing pertaining to the write up to offer,rather she may even end up spoiling your beautiful Sunday morning for you with her emotional gimmicks !

You don't fight a shark in the sea,unless you want to be turn to shred.
The same way you don't engage a woman if she go emotional,you're never going to win.

liberalchick:
wow! how original.

You don’t have two brain cells to rub together to contribute anything meaningful to this thread, so you decided to quote me with the old and tired “she’s being emotional” sexist slur.

Are you done ?

liberalchick:
“A good number of mothers” you and the OP’s generalization is why this post was spoiled by “idiots”. I know people that were lied to by their fathers who told them that their moms abandoned them. Instead they discovered their mothers were kicked out and had been forbidden to see them.

Unlike this OP, I am not going to write a post generalizing most men.

I quite understand your drift but this is not an issue of We vs Them. The Op is addressing the issue of 'manipulating mothers' whose actions ain't in the best interest of the kids.

Gerrit?

Sorry ooo but abeg I want Madame marialavina and Prof marvelous000 to finish the grammar war...

In between, when are we finally having our #redpill guys vs #feminists girls face-off? E go sweet oo

Two kinds of women, those who cover up for their Absentee partners with things like( daddy loves you, he is just very busy)

And those who don’t.

None is wrong.
I
I would prefer not to cover up for my kids, because I don’t want to teach them that inconsistency and abandonment is love. I don’t want my kids to growing up learning to accept little in life.

My take.
Good thing I don’t have to deal with that.

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KanuSE:


I quite understand your drift but this is not an issue of We vs Them. The Op is addressing the issue of 'manipulating mothers' whose actions ain't in the best interest of the kids.

Gerrit?

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KanuSE:


I believe everyone of us quite understand the context of a violent husband/father but we're not deliberating on that here.

We're discussing 'manipulating mothers'.

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I can't believe Martinez39 king of logical counter have been silent since last night and has refused to respond to my 'logical' submission lol. I remember how you and your ilks were ranting about how Nl girls do not argue intelligently and sentiments free, I laugh out loud when I saw your comments and said, these guys can't recognize logic and intelligence even if it's hitting them on their toes, funny how they go about crying for it.


Well let me call on your friends to help you out

Pansophist
Ubunja
Franchisng
Daddytime.

Please come and help your logical friend out, he is stuck.

eyizlive:
Sorry ooo but abeg I want Madame marialavin a and Prof marve lous000 to finish the grammar war...

In between, when are we finally having our #redpill guys vs #feminists girls face-off? E go sweet oo

War? lol I don't have the luxury for that, the boy is simply throwing fists in the air.



Your last paragraph? You must have mistaken me for one who gives a hoot about those two madness you mentioned.

Confirmation bias is very strong on this thread, we interpret what we want to interpret. What I inferred from the first half of his post is that most deadbeat dads wouldn’t be deadbeats if women didn’t poison the well.

Regiomontanus:
Lol. Women. The op is about mothers who unfairly alienate children from fathers. The lesson is for children to think for themselves.

MariaLavina:
Your comments on this thread so far makes me doubt if the write up is truly yours, instead of you to defend your posts with logical points and facts you are busy guilt ripping hiding your shallows with emojis and baseless tantrums, even Capslock did a better job defending your very own thread. Pity!


Women don't paint men bad, No they just didn't cover up their husband's misconducts from their children. If you are smart, observant and exposed has you claim to be, you will realize that husbands 'painted bad' aren't saints. Most times they exhibit characters the women use against them. Lol it's funny you think a child's mind is a GIGO kind of thing. No,! Children emulate/take in/ form their perception mostly on what they see than what they hear, The later is easily forgotten while the former lasts longer. If a woman tells her child the husband is bad and the husband acts otherwise believe me those words will have no effect. So this is a case of no smoke without fire.

You also make it sound like only a woman owns the child whatever stops the father from forming a bond with his child?But No! An average African man thinks it is a sign of weakness to express emotions and that the needs of the children is basically food clothing and shelter. Other needs should be met by the woman, it is her job.And this is the cause of the fall of African Man when it comes to getting a child's love.

So what if they aren't together? Are the fathers denied access to their children? Thing is Most Nigerian men do not care that much, to them they have enough sperm to produce another child if the wife decide to go with the children. Hardly will you see a man worry that much except if the children are grown and he has invested a lot in them.A typical Nigerian man is a deadbeat one, the ones 'painted bad' are just the unmanaged ones.

That said, You seem to forget the fact that Children who have little knowledge of their fathers or mothers seek after them mostly when they are grown.They tend to appreciate the invisible one more than the one who nurture them.They begin to ask questions, make calls , search for maps just to find the one who wasnt there.At the end no one loses , This thread no hold water jare.

A little while you made sense, a little while your emotions took over - no premise in the end.

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KanuSE:


A little while you made sense, a little while your emotions took over - no premise in the end.

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Still waiting...

fyneboi79:
Very good topic here. It took me more than 35 years to realize what my mother did to me concerning my dad. I hated and abandoned the man. Now all I can do to say sorry is to beautify his graveside.

What a pity.

MariaLavina:
War? lol I don't have the luxury for that, the boy is simply throwing fists in the air.



Your last paragraph? You must have mistaken me for one who gives a hoot about those two madness you mentioned.

I guess so but at least for the banter nau, like isn't that what's left to do on NL...imagine that sorta thread...it'll be FIRE!!!
Just tell Ubunja and let's have it.

eyizlive:


I guess so but at least for the banter nau, like isn't that what's left to do on NL...imagine that sorta thread...it'll be FIRE!!!
Just tell Ubu nja and let's have it.

Direct your childishness to one who is in for it, you mistake my response for interest.


Have a nice day.

TheEminentLaity:
Yeah right! 'Deadbeat' another invented term by bitter women to appropriate all blames to yet another man. Another case of women not taking responsibility.

Lol they would rather have the dad dead & this shows what they harbour in their minds.

Just take another look at the term...WOMEN !

MariaLavina:
Direct your childishness to one who is in for it, you mistake my response for interest.


Have a nice day.

I did indeed.

liberalchick:
Confirmation bias is very strong on this thread, we interpret what we want to interpret. What I inferred from the first half of his post is that most men wouldn’t be deadbeat dads if women didn’t poison the well.

Either you are a shameless and pathetic liar or your brain did not develop properly. You are very manipulative. Beside, why read just the first part? Are you not supposed to read the whole thing? What sensible person reads just the first half of someone's write up and attacks them? Are you okay? Everyone(GLYCOLYSISS, KanuSE, JONNYSPUTE, CAPSLOCKED, etc), come see the game liberalchick is playing?

You purposely picked just the first part so you can avoid the clarification in the second picture below and therefore have some ground to attack me and accuse me of generalising since your emotions are against me.

pic 1: The very first thing you will see in his write up. How come you got your inference for the first half of his post? Are you that dull? Despite this you and other dull girls still attacked him for painting all fathers as saints and all mothers as evil.
pic 2: @blue part, Martinez39 made himself clear again that some mothers could be good while the fathers could be at fault. No sensible person has any ground to accuse Martinez39 of generalising. Only daft humans claimed Martinez39 was generalising.

lol where did I make it a We vs Them?

I was calling out the generalization of women in the OP, I never compared the roles of both gender in parental alienation. If you are referring to my example, I used it to highlight my premise, just because you have few anecdotes doesn’t mean you have enough facts/authority to generalize.

Most posters have commented that the OP is just about mothers who alienate their kids from their fathers, if it was I wouldn’t be on this thread. The first half of his post infers that most deadbeat dads wouldn’t be deadbeats if women didn’t badmouth dads in front of their kids.

KanuSE:


I quite understand your drift but this is not an issue of We vs Them. The Op is addressing the issue of 'manipulating mothers' whose actions ain't in the best interest of the kids.

Gerrit?

liberalchick:
lol where did I make it a We vs Them?

I was calling out the generalization of women in the OP, I never compared the roles of both gender in parental alienation. If you are referring to my example, I used it to highlight my premise, just because you have few anecdotes doesn’t mean you have enough facts/authority to generalize.

Most posters have commented that the OP is just about mothers who alienate their kids from their fathers, if it was I wouldn’t be on this thread. The first half of his post infers that most deadbeat dads wouldn’t be deadbeats if women didn’t badmouth dads in front of their kids.

Read my post above yours and see the analysis of those two pictures and tell me where Martinez39 generalised. Indeed, foolishness is intentional at times.

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KanuSE:


Lol they would rather have the dad dead & this shows what they harbour in their minds.

Just take another look at the term...WOMEN !

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KanuSE:


What a pity.

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somehow:
RIP dad.


Tears once more

Not because he was fully badmouthed but because I didn't see the whole picture soon enough.

5am off to work 11pm back home Mondays to Saturdays. Sleeps off most of Sundays after church to recoup the lost energy from the deadly weekdays.

Died of HBP/Stroke because the man never rested and was less celebrated!

Tears men.

Men should learn how to cry, you will add more life to your life in the process.

I believe this is the man you just described.

What?!!

So why are you choosing to ignore the first part of his post? Why type the first half if it’s not relevant to his post? Just because the OP decided to add “some” in his posts or added a disclaimer doesn’t magically erase the generalizations in his post, the OP put them there for a reason. I read a post and I posted my comments on the parts I disagreed with.

Regarding your childish emotional outburst, get help.

Regiomontanus:
You are a shameless and pathetic liar or your brain did not develop properly. You are very manipulative. Beside, why read the first part? Are you not supposed to read the whole thing? What sensible person reads just the first half of someone's write up and attacks them? Are you okay?

You purposely picked just the first part so you can avoid the clarification in the second picture below and therefore have some ground to attack me since your emotions are against me.

pic 1: The very first thing you will see in his write up. How come you got your inference for the first half of his post? Are you that dull? Despite this you and other dull girls still attacked him for painting all fathers as saints and all mothers as evil.
pic 2: @blue part, Martinez39 made himself clear again that some mothers could be good while the fathers could be at fault. No sensible person has any ground to accuse Martinez39 of generalising. Only daft humans claimed Martinez39 was generalising.

liberalchick:
lol where did I make it a We vs Them?

I was calling out the generalization of women in the OP, I never compared the roles of both gender in parental alienation. If you are referring to my example, I used it to highlight my premise, just because you have few anecdotes doesn’t mean you have enough facts/authority to generalize.

Most posters have commented that the OP is just about mothers who alienate their kids from their fathers, if it was I wouldn’t be on this thread. The first half of his post infers that most deadbeat dads wouldn’t be deadbeats if women didn’t badmouth dads in front of their kids.

Op has not generalized on women in his post & many commenters here have tried to get your likes back in line.

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KanuSE:


Op has not generalized on women in his post & many commenters here have tried to get your likes back on line.

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KanuSE:


I believe this is the man you just described.

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liberalchick:
What?!!

So why are you choosing to ignore the first part of his post? Why type the first half if it’s not relevant to his post? Just because the OP decided to add “some” in his concluding paragraphs doesn’t magically erase the generalizations in the post, the OP put them there for a reason. I read a post and I posted my comments on the parts I disagreed with.

Regarding your childish emotional outburst, get help.

I did not any part of his post instead I pointed you out for ignoring certain parts of his post. Keep playing dumb. If at this stage you don't know that read a write up completely before attacking the writer, you can't be helped. If you can't understand such a simple write up by Martinez39, you can't be helped. At your age, you call a clarification the addition of "some"? Do you know what it means to clarify?

When Martinez39 said he can't expect reasoning from the female gender on certain issues, he seemed like a misogynist but now I can see where the wise guy is coming from. Good day and from henceforth, I won't engage you. Rot in your foolishness.