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| Re: Giving Your Tithe To The Church Or To The Needy: What The Bible Really Says by Blackvic1: 10:16am On Oct 13, 2019 |
alBHAGDADI:The prime reason for tithes in Israel was to support the priesthood and the services at the sanctuary, because neither the priests nor other members of the tribe of Levi were given a land inheritance of their own. Their main work was to look after the spiritual interests of fellow Israelites. In apostolic times Christian ministers were maintained on purely a voluntary principle and people offered their contributions voluntarily. Those who proclaimed the good news were to live by means of the good news. Today, however, many religious organizations of Christendom have ignored this Christian principle and the one that says: “You received free, give free,” and have required their members to tithe. “Emphasis on Christian tithing is rapidly developing as a main theme in the churches today in . There were occasions in the past when men were imprisoned, their goods seized and some were even shot dead, because they refused to pay tithes. Those who make such demands do so without Scriptural authority. God put an end to the Mosaic law when he nailed it to the tree. That means he put an end to the tithing law too. Paul said: Christians “are not under law but under undeserved kindness.the only thing Jesus commanded us to do is to love our neighbor and when you do that you will give freely the church today have deviated from the original meaning....all they preach about is giving to the church not even to the needy give to God like you can see God ....why is tithing so important to today’s churches if it doesn’t require money why are we so bent on monetary values in churches today ? Why are our pastors owing private jets and Mansions with investments everywhere if I am to give my tithe to any church our pastors must behave like levites that owns nothing not even a house a car a school a private jet nothing then I will pay my tithe wicked lying people in wolves clothing our pastors as like our Politicians birds of feathers |
| Re: Giving Your Tithe To The Church Or To The Needy: What The Bible Really Says by Blackvic1: 10:21am On Oct 13, 2019 |
Amanda4life:it is done monthly why did pastors change it ? Was it not a commandment by God always doing things to suite there selfish desires I am not surprised when the Bible said judgement will start in the house of God |
| Re: Giving Your Tithe To The Church Or To The Needy: What The Bible Really Says by dearie(m): 10:22am On Oct 13, 2019 |
alBHAGDADI:God bless you! |
| Re: Giving Your Tithe To The Church Or To The Needy: What The Bible Really Says by dearie(m): 10:23am On Oct 13, 2019 |
Alashoalash10:Leave them to the actual owner of the Tithe to judge. |
| Re: Giving Your Tithe To The Church Or To The Needy: What The Bible Really Says by Blackvic1: 10:25am On Oct 13, 2019 |
xpool:thank you very much he must be a pastor or benefiting from tithe that he’s so adamant on convincing people |
| Re: Giving Your Tithe To The Church Or To The Needy: What The Bible Really Says by openmine(m): 10:29am On Oct 13, 2019*. Modified: 12:08pm On Oct 13, 2019 |
I haven't stopped laughing at this thread.... ![]() The barefaced lies intended to bend and manipulate an obviously explicit scripture fell flat on the face of the OP Even more hilarious and preposterous is the stale and manipulated narrative that PASTORS are LEVITES! This submission is not TRUE! A levite is not a title or position but a tribe! The scriptures show that you are to eat of your tithe but OP said its not for you but for the pastor of your church! The scriptures instructs tithe payment every year for the tither consumption and a three year stipulation for the levite,need,homeless and strangers but the OP is saying its monthly with some baseless analogy! My joy is that people are beginning to read and understand scriptures and no one will deceive them anymore! |
| Re: Giving Your Tithe To The Church Or To The Needy: What The Bible Really Says by Ceoking6: 10:30am On Oct 13, 2019 |
Lokostic77:isn't it funny that Jesus was well documented to have prayed and given tax to ceazer but didn't for once pay tithe "even as a practising Jew himself" but we gentiles are now bigger than Jesus overnight. By the way the doctrine we hear of paying tithe only because of the threat of been blocked off from God financially is so selfish and unchristlike for supposed Christ followers who told a richman to go empty himself |
| Re: Giving Your Tithe To The Church Or To The Needy: What The Bible Really Says by Zigdore: 10:37am On Oct 13, 2019 |
1Sharon:Very true. Pastorpreneurs is what we have these days. Many of them are scammers. |
| Re: Giving Your Tithe To The Church Or To The Needy: What The Bible Really Says by don4real18(m): 10:39am On Oct 13, 2019 |
alBHAGDADI:Not just any priest. They are Levites |
| Re: Giving Your Tithe To The Church Or To The Needy: What The Bible Really Says by perryy(m): 10:44am On Oct 13, 2019 |
alBHAGDADI: |
| Re: Giving Your Tithe To The Church Or To The Needy: What The Bible Really Says by phymat(m): 11:08am On Oct 13, 2019 |
alBHAGDADI:may God bless u ....... |
| Re: Giving Your Tithe To The Church Or To The Needy: What The Bible Really Says by Adakintroy2: 11:09am On Oct 13, 2019 |
Forget what the Bible said..men wrote the bible. Just as men wrote constitutions. The bible was more or less the constitution of the isrealites. It can be repealed or amended whenever it strays from its intended ends. So far the cry is not against tithes. It that the costodians of the tithes are using it for their own selfish ends. Less get it staight. Should a pastor be using church funds to finance personal estates? It's more like politicians using tax for their personAL confort. That's the crust of the arguments. The revolution is don't worry. We will pay it ourselves to the needy as christ directed. If you do this to the least of my brethren you have done it unto me. Thanks. |
| Re: Giving Your Tithe To The Church Or To The Needy: What The Bible Really Says by shadeyinka(m): 11:12am On Oct 13, 2019 |
alBHAGDADI:What/Where is the House of God? Tithe couldn't be "paid" anywhere else (not in any synagogue) but in the Temple of God or if a special revelation as per where the Lord has placed His name for such. The Temple of God isn't made with bricks 1Cor 6:19: "Or do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit in you, whom you have of God? And you are not your own," Let me tell you the Truth: You want to give God your Tithe and Offerings check this out Mat 25:35-40: "For I was hungry , and you gave me food; I was thirsty, and you gave Me drink; I was a stranger , and you took Me in; I was naked , and you clothed Me; I was sick, and you visited Me; I was in prison , and you came to Me. Then the righteous shall answer Him, saying, Lord, when did we see You hungry, and fed [You]? Or thirsty, and gave [You] drink? When did we see You a stranger, and took [You] in? Or naked, and clothed [You]? Or when did we see You sick, or in prison, and came to You? And the King shall answer and say to them, Truly I say to you, Inasmuch as you did [it] to one of the least of these My brothers, you have done [it] to Me." There was a special reason why this scripture happened. Mat 27:51: "And, behold! The veil of the temple was torn in two from top to bottom . And the earth quaked, and the rocks were sheared," |
| Re: Giving Your Tithe To The Church Or To The Needy: What The Bible Really Says by seguno2: 11:18am On Oct 13, 2019 |
HerCuteness:If the church is not doing anything for charities, what should a believer do, in such a situation ![]() |
| Re: Giving Your Tithe To The Church Or To The Needy: What The Bible Really Says by seguno2: 11:20am On Oct 13, 2019 |
shadeyinka:May God bless you richly with more wisdom. |
| Re: Giving Your Tithe To The Church Or To The Needy: What The Bible Really Says by alBHAGDADI(op): 11:20am On Oct 13, 2019 |
shadeyinka:Now, where in the above Mathew 25 is it stated that it is the tithe we should give directly to the mentioned people? Nowhere. Guess what? We still fulfill the words of Jesus in obedience when we give the tithe to the church which in turns give a portion to the needy. We are commanded to pay tithe to the house of God. Nowhere are we commanded to pay it to the needy ourselves. The verse you quoted in Mathew 25 is not tithing but freewill giving and helping the needy. Now, just because the temple got demolished doesn't mean God doesn't own buildings anymore. He still does as stated by Apostle Paul. 1 Timothy 3:15 But if I tarry long, that thou mayest know how thou oughtest to behave thyself in the house of God, which is the church of the living God, the pillar and ground of the truth. |
| Re: Giving Your Tithe To The Church Or To The Needy: What The Bible Really Says by oskobi: 11:22am On Oct 13, 2019 |
please give a New testament reference that talked about tithe and where to take it to. Because all the event of the old testament was prophesy of the coming of Christ. Now after the death and resurrection of christ, give a reference in the new testament that outline tithe as given in leviticus in the old testament. Thanks |
| Re: Giving Your Tithe To The Church Or To The Needy: What The Bible Really Says by benji93: 11:23am On Oct 13, 2019 |
What are you writing Man? Verse 23 clearly says: the tithe of thine corn, wine and oil, yet you opine that the passage does not say that the eating and drinking should be from your tithe, but what was prepared by the church. Unless you are arguing that verses 24, 25 e.t.c are not connected to verse 23. alBHAGDADI: |
| Re: Giving Your Tithe To The Church Or To The Needy: What The Bible Really Says by ibechris(m): 11:29am On Oct 13, 2019 |
Preach less on tithes and let us talk about heaven and salvation. I will make heaven whether I pay tithe or not. Just be deceiving yourself with giving tithes to these men of God whose heart are darkened and wicked. Whose only focus in God's work is tithe and prosperity. U can't never see them talk about heaven and hell. Because they all know that their heart is far from God. Nigerian pastors that move around the country with convoy and being guarded with beastly looking mopols. Check any where in the country where there are crises,they will run leaving only Anglican and Catholic priests in such isolated areas. Go to Borno and see what am saying. Without much ado,when u see these fake men of God,u will know them. |
| Re: Giving Your Tithe To The Church Or To The Needy: What The Bible Really Says by MrSix: 11:29am On Oct 13, 2019*. Modified: 5:59pm On Oct 13, 2019 |
alBHAGDADI:You're just worried about God like you're his assistant. He can do the worrying himself. You're concerned about the house of God possibly getting empty? Kidding me? You didn't quote the part Jesus at the Well said a time will come and is, that true worshippers wouldn't need a place of worship but would worship in spirit and truth. This happened as Jesus laid to rest the institutionalized way of worshipping through a Priest. Now you can go through yourself to Jesus straight as the high Priest. Why take this part of the Bible and leave the other at Bay? In essence, you don't need an institution to give tithe. And the purpose of the gospel isn't for organizational buildings to be set up for people to worship but for making the world a better place. If the world is a better place, who'd need building called church? That's what you're afraid of? Lols. Most people go to church because they find an indoctrinating imposition to do so or they are in need of something. Just few go there to actually working God. There are many things from your write-up that followed which is on "motive." But there are many other things that didn't add up. Let me ask you. How'd the church help in an emergency road accident you saw on the way to church with your tithe knowing fully well your church can't respond to it immediately and you're in position to help with the money? Happy Sunday |
| Re: Giving Your Tithe To The Church Or To The Needy: What The Bible Really Says by Originalsly: 11:31am On Oct 13, 2019*. Modified: 12:13pm On Oct 13, 2019 |
alBHAGDADI:Just breaking down your comment on Deut 14:22-29. Help me understand.... who were these directives given to? ... and who are the Levites in our society? Regardless... if we want to follow the purpose of tithes... it is as stated... first for the enjoyment of the tither..... and in his 'feast'... it was specifically stated the 'Levites'... those without inheritance... the poor... the orphans...the homeless....must be included and catered for. Were the priest included here?... they are not a priority. And where did the church building feature in tithes? Does the priest in charge ...as you say... does he take care of the needs of the poor?..or is it he puts himself first?.... even above the tither? Does the tither or the priest enjoy the tithes? The priest can't be enjoying my tithes more than I.... nor the poor. I will enjoy my tithes.... give directly to the poor for their enjoyment... and give the priest crumbs to humbly go about doing what he should be doing. There is no defending priests/pastors that do not distribute the bulk of the tithes to the poor.... and no defending collecting tithes from the poor. |
| Re: Giving Your Tithe To The Church Or To The Needy: What The Bible Really Says by HerCuteness(f): 11:34am On Oct 13, 2019 |
bskyb:thanks, i wish i could claim it as mine, just sharing |
| Re: Giving Your Tithe To The Church Or To The Needy: What The Bible Really Says by HerCuteness(f): 11:35am On Oct 13, 2019 |
seguno2:That's where my 3rd point comes in. Read the number three again |
| Re: Giving Your Tithe To The Church Or To The Needy: What The Bible Really Says by alBHAGDADI(op): 11:46am On Oct 13, 2019 |
seunmsg:First show me where they took their bath and brushed their teeth. |
| Re: Giving Your Tithe To The Church Or To The Needy: What The Bible Really Says by alBHAGDADI(op): 11:48am On Oct 13, 2019 |
seunmsg:The war loot, did it not become his? Didn't he pay a tithe from it? Oh, it was a one off thing? Are you expecting the Buble to be all about the amount of times Abraham paid tithe? |
| Re: Giving Your Tithe To The Church Or To The Needy: What The Bible Really Says by alBHAGDADI(op): 11:53am On Oct 13, 2019 |
sshyne:You read the Bible but you don't understand it. So we are no longer under the law, right? Why not go and have sex with your mother which is against one of those old testament laws. Why not sleep with your daughter. Look, when Paul said we are no longer in the under the law, he simply meant we are not depending on the law for salvation. This doesn't mean the law has been discarded, which is why it is still a sin to sleep with one's next of kin. We obey the law to be right with God. |
| Re: Giving Your Tithe To The Church Or To The Needy: What The Bible Really Says by alBHAGDADI(op): 11:54am On Oct 13, 2019 |
dazzlingd:Mugu, what were the things included in the ALL he paid? You can't mention them, yet you have the boldness to exclude money from the ALL. Your mumu never do. ![]() |
| Re: Giving Your Tithe To The Church Or To The Needy: What The Bible Really Says by alBHAGDADI(op): 11:55am On Oct 13, 2019 |
Alashoalash10:Flee from such church. Go to a Baptist Church. |
| Re: Giving Your Tithe To The Church Or To The Needy: What The Bible Really Says by Nigeriahomebiz(m): 11:57am On Oct 13, 2019 |
Ornament2003:Your wisdom is undisputed. |
| Re: Giving Your Tithe To The Church Or To The Needy: What The Bible Really Says by Nigeriahomebiz(m): 12:00pm On Oct 13, 2019 |
alBHAGDADI:Remember to keep the sabbath day holy, if not for being well mannered at least today being Sunday. You quoted scripture earlier, now you resort to insults against someone who disagrees with you. How do you reconcile both? |
| Re: Giving Your Tithe To The Church Or To The Needy: What The Bible Really Says by Youngzedd(m): 12:01pm On Oct 13, 2019 |
alBHAGDADI:Why are they not burning the money as it was done in the old? Church feast people will be made to donate money, the church don't bring money from tithe for this feast, it's the people that donate. Tithing isn't for Christians. |
| Re: Giving Your Tithe To The Church Or To The Needy: What The Bible Really Says by alBHAGDADI(op): 12:03pm On Oct 13, 2019 |
BluntBoy:Go and read Genesis 14 to see that Tithing existed as ALL THINGS long before God even promised Abraham the land of Israel. Why is it not written that the mentioned professions didn't pay tithe? Where is it written that it was only farmers that paid tithe? Look, it wasn't only agricultural produce that Jesus label as tithe alone. He also stated that tithe can be paid from all you possess which can include money. Remember the parable of the Pharisee who boasted that he pays tithe from all that he possess. Jesus didn't condemn him for paying tithe in that manner. Rather, he condemned him for something else. Luke 18:12 I fast twice in the week, I give tithes of all that I possess. You can't expect Jesus who is God to pay tithe. Secondly, just because it wasn't recorded that the Apostles paid tithe doesn't mean it never happened. Lastly, where is it mentioned that farmers paid tithe? |
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