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KarnBarlow:
I can argue that steph curry isnt even the best passer on his team. DLo and Draymond can both lay legitimate claims to that.

For this, we agree

Eruditor:
Many of those arguments are really just knee-jerk.

Every single NBA player can put up great stats in spurts or for a while. Legendary status comes from doing it over time. Trae has potential but same us got angry when people said Lebron had the potential to be better than Jordan. And every now and then we like to show he did not quite measure up. The argument is neither here nor there.

For Trae to show any potential there had to be Curry. In fact, Curry's success is the reason Trae was drafted. In Curry's early days he was not allowed to shoot from any angle. He was even playing fiddle to Monta Ellis apart from the ankle injuries. It was his success later that made people feel they should not muzzle an unconscious shooter which birthed Trae. So the people suing for time before those comparisons are made actually have a point.

So what you are saying is people shouldnt talk about a players potential at all? Talk about knee jerk arguments. This literally makes no sense at all!

Every current great NBA player was compared to someone in their early days. We hear lonzo being compared to jason kidd, simmons to lebron, embiid to hakeem, giannis to dominique, what is so bad about that? Some have lived up to (or surpassed) it and some havent. We have seen players being compared to legends better than curry will ever be, did the heavens fall then? so why shouldnt we say a player can be as good as or better than steph? what nonsense? you can argue that a player is more of one player than another player but saying you cant speculate about a players ceiling is about the largest pile of guff i've ever heard. SMH

Sincerely, this Trae potential should not be an argument na. There is nothing wrong with the comparison as per the potential of Trae, the boy is good, really good. Was it not in the same league we could not hear word when Lonzo was drafted? And even Zion now, is he not being compared to great players. The comparison should attest to how great everyone sees Curry and not anything else. But Trae has been consistent and that guy will be great (forget if he is being said to be as great as curry or Nash or whoever), so to say he has the potential to be as great a PG as Curry is a compliment and not the other way round. This should not even be an argument

And I can say that after 3/4 games this season, I will rank Trae top 5 PGs at the moment this season, still early, but I am entitled to my opinion. I don't know if anything will happen later on in the season but at the moment, he's consistent.

KarnBarlow:
So what you are saying is people shouldnt talk about a players potential at all? Talk about knee jerk arguments. This literally makes no sense at all!

Both arguments are fair.

Seems Trae Young has Curry's ankles as well. Life is such a b-tch sometimes. Damn, really gutted for him.

AD is an unstoppable monster when he gets it going. Theres just no answer for him. This lakers defense is just something else when they turn it up. They just flat out smother people.

And Javales defense has been very disappointing so far. Absolutely horrid, will stick stick with him though, i like Howard coming off the bench.

Man untold you to look through your posts before replying, but you never learn. In this post post were you referring to passing skills? . You clearly stated ' who is the best point guard in the game?' not who is the best passer. If you were directly referring to passing here, why throw Kyrie in? Is he known for his passing vision . When talking about a universal set, you cannot give an examples of one subset, and then assume we know you are referring to another subject.What inconsistency. I hope this analogy is not lost on you. And don't tell me this was referring to another post cost clearly wasn't.0

KarnBarlow:
Now that Steph is no longer Steph, who is the best point guard in the game? Dame? Kyrie? And mark me, Trae Young might throw himself in to this discussion this year.

Now tell me where I stated Trae cannot end up better than Curry? I am not responsible for other FEW fans, so if they say anything quote them, not me.

KarnBarlow:
LOL.

I said Trae can be as good as or better than Curry, then you got all in your feelings saying we shouldn't compare him to curry, Why cant i speculate about how good a player can be? since when did he can be as good as become hes as good as? what is wrong with you?

I have literally never claimed trae young is one of the best point guards in the league, if i did then please show me where. The only time i even mentioned top 5 and trae young is when talking about passers. And then i said he will put himself in the discussion as one of the best point guards in the league.

Now if that is how you got me claiming trae young is one of the best 5 point guards in the league its either you don't know basketball or you should sue your english teacher.

As to doncic and trae young, doncic is closer to his ceiling than trae because he has been playing at a high level (euro league) longer than trae. But this is a different argument entirely.

Again, anyone who claims that steph is a better passer than brodie is simply ignorant. No two ways about it. System or not there are no glimpses in currys passes that show the vision and technicality that brodie or any of the other guys i mentioned have. You can talk about system however you want but thats speculative, i cant comment on what i can't see. Except you are claiming to be clairvoyant.

Sarcasm is for smart people. You lot claimed lebron was washed after 1 game (which someone pointed out to you BTW) immediately before that, you didnt seem to use the same excuse then so i said steph is washed. i said now that hes over 30 he cant carry a team anymore and then i said hes no longer the best PG in the league, same way you lot claimed bron isnt the best player in the league.

Like i said, when it comes to steph you have tunnel vision, you just know you have to defend him for no reason at all even when theres nothing to defend him from.

This is a warning to the rest of the league, Anthony Davis is coming for all of you.

Now bron is turning things up! Dynamic Duo.

Man I beg when you dey mention players no carry injury condition enter matter ooo. We don argue so tey the guy don wound ooo. Glad it's a short term injury though.

darkelf:
For this, we agree

benji93:
Man untold you to look through your posts before replying, but you never learn. In this post post were you referring to passing skills? . You clearly stated ' who is the best point guard in the game?' not who is the best passer. If you were directly referring to passing here, why throw Kyrie in? Is he known for his passing vision . When talking about a universal set, you cannot give an examples of one subset, and then assume we know you are referring to another subject.What inconsistency. I hope this analogy is not lost on you. And don't tell me this was referring to another post cost clearly wasn't.0

So saying Trae Young may throw himself into the discussion as one of the best PGs in the league this year is saying Trae Young is currently a top 5 PG in the league or that hes better than Steph? Bruh, this guy...


Dude, I told you, you have a bone to pick with your english teacher. Embarrassing!

benji93:
Now tell me where I stated Trae cannot end up better than Curry? I am not responsible for other FEW fans, so if they say anything quote them, not me.

LMAO, Do you even read what you type? You said we shouldnt say Trae can be as good as or better than curry did you not? Is that not what this is all about? Why shouldnt we?

Heres a recommendation for you, like it or not, you need it.

steady986:
Thus is a warning to the rest of the league, Anthony Davis is coming for all of you.

Put up this line in 3 quarters.

Scary thing is the team is shooting horribly from 3. So many open looks missed.

steady986:
Thus is a warning to the rest of the league, Anthony Davis is coming for all of you.

Great game however, he has been coming for the everyone since he entered the league. Before you'll come and tell us LeBron made Anthony what he is.

BTW, Kuzma is about to return.

Lebron promised to take a backseat and allow the offense to run through AD, i was skeptical but hes done just that. Tremendous self awareness, most great players find it difficult to pass the torch. He promised he would've have done that with Kyrie eventually but Kyrie... i still get pissed off when i think about the way he left and what could've been. I guess it worked out perfectly for everyone involved, they all ended up where they wanted to.

As a Lebron fan i never thought i'd see the day where he'd be the second best player on a team, everyone knows how great AD is, and hes just 26 and about to reach his prime. He just never had a good team or a spotlight, now he has all of that and he looks like he wants to take full advantage.

Kuzma will make some noise off the bench as well and his shot looks pure. The lakers will have a bench mob of their own.

And the lakers coaching staff, so far they've made so many good in game adjustments. They've had some explosive 3rd quarters offensively and especially defensively.

Great days ahead.


On a different note, seems KCP is making shots again, trade him now while his stock is high because another slump is inevitable with this guy.

I just remembered KCP of all people has a friggin no trade clause. Friggin Rich Paul, SMH.

KarnBarlow:
Put up this line in 3 quarters.

Scary thing is the team is shooting horribly from 3. So many open looks missed.

Yea, we need to fix that. And we need to quit starting games slow.

SmooshCHN:
Great game however, he has been coming for the everyone since he entered the league. Before you'll come and tell us LeBron made Anthony what he is.

Playing with LeBron has only given him that extra push he needed

benji93:
What is your problem man? you seem to be pained that the GSW got a win. No body claims GSW is an elite team, we understand we are gonna be having a tumultuous season, you don't have to keep reminding us.

Naaah, that's what I'm here for, I'll keep reminding y'all.

Well I do understand you are a pest, all I need is a pesticide. . But you know stop ranting about AD, we do know how good he is. You are screaming as if he's not been doing that for a while.

steady986:
Naaah, that's what I'm here for, I'll keep reminding y'all.

See, stop making a nuisance of yourself. This argument has lost it's purpose, you havevderailrd it. I quoted a comment where you clearly mentioned top 5 point guard, but you claimed you were talking about passing So quote one of my comments where I stated that Trae cannot become as good or even better than Curry. Shikena.

KarnBarlow:
LMAO, Do you even read what you type? You said we shouldnt say Trae can be as good as or better than curry did you not? Is that not what this is all about? Why shouldnt we?

Heres a recommendation for you, like it or not, you need it.

20 FTs.

James Harden type performance

But hype on.

27 FTs actually

In his defense he was getting clobbered and it was nothing like James Harden's type of fouls

Paulo Costa out for the foreseeable future. Damnnn! Was really looking forward to him and Stylebender

I want to see Izzy and Cannonier. No point putting Romero up there since he will never make weight and is too much of a vajayjay to move up to LH and fight his BFF Bones

benji93:
See, stop making a nuisance of yourself. This argument has lost it's purpose, you havevderailrd it. I quoted a comment where you clearly mentioned top 5 point guard, but you claimed you were talking about passing So quote one of my comments where I stated that Trae cannot become as good or even better than Curry. Shikena.

KarnBarlow:
Now that Steph is no longer Steph, who is the best point guard in the game? Dame? Kyrie? And mark me, Trae Young might throw himself in to this discussion this year.

LOL This quote mentioned top 5 point guards? You seriously need help.

Eruditor:
20 FTs.

James Harden type performance

But hype on.

Its AD man, FTs or not hes been putting up numbers like these for a very long time so what exactly about this is hype? If you think this is rare for him you are in for a rude awakening this season. Memphis decided to hack him cause they couldn't stop him, he didnt flop or wail, how is that a james harden type performance?

But hate on. Warriors fans have become very bitter.

A40:
Paulo Costa out for the foreseeable future. Damnnn! Was really looking forward to him and Stylebender

I want to see Izzy and Cannonier. No point putting Romero up there since he will never make weight and is too much of a vajayjay to move up to LH and fight his BFF Bones

There are many words i can use to describe Yoel but that is not one of them. I think he just truly believes in his principles as far as fighting a friend. Ben and woodley said the same thing about each other as well and thats why ben was pushing for a 165 division. Truth is Yoel is on a losing streak, eluded father time for a very long time but father time is finally catching up to him and he has weight issues. I think as close as that costa fight was he lost that mysticism he had after the fight. And for one of the most accomplished wrestlers in the UFC the fact that he rarely even tries to take a fight to the ground is just disappointing.


Cannonier has looked good recently and especially against the joker but he has KO power and thats it, i dont see anything that makes me think he can strike with israel. Whittaker put on a shameful performance so no one wants to see an immediate rematch. I think all those battles with yoel took a toll on his chin too. He has to work his way back up.

Paulo costa was the only person who looked like a threat. I'd say right now i'm more intrigued by the winner of till vs gastelum especially if till wins in impressive fashion. Otherwise there is no one at 185 that seems like a proper threat to Israel. I know its MMA and anything can happen but israel is sitting pretty right now.

As long as he stays as far away from Jon Jones as possible that is. He don't want that smoke.

benji93:
Well I do understand you are a pest, all I need is a pesticide. . But you know stop ranting about AD, we do know how good he is. You are screaming as if he's not been doing that for a while.

Fam, some folks here were questioning his mentality, just because he came from the Pels that had a sh*t team.

KarnBarlow:
There are many words i can use to describe Yoel but that is not one of them. I think he just truly believes in his principles as far as fighting a friend. Ben and woodley said the same thing about each other as well and thats why ben was pushing for a 165 division. Truth is Yoel is on a losing streak, eluded father time for a very long time but father time is finally catching up to him and he has weight issues. I think as close as that costa fight was he lost that mysticism he had after the fight. And for one of the most accomplished wrestlers in the UFC the fact that he rarely even tries to take a fight to the ground is just disappointing.

Let's keep shyte real man. That whole buddy yarns flies out the window if he believes he can beat Bones. It's the freaking UFC not a tea party.

To be fair to Yoel those were not your usual kind of losses. Some would tell you he won the second Whittaker fight, some crazier folks even swear he beat Borrachinha too. I think more people will want to see Stylebender vs Yoel than Stylebender vs Cannonier and in the end that's all that matters with Dana White. I mean hell he wanted to bring Brock friggin Lesnar to jump the queue and fight DC and right now has put the hottest fighter in the Heavyweight division in the freezer all for a Stipe vs FC trilogy.

I have no qualms provided Yoel can make weight. If not then the fight is pointless

KarnBarlow:
Cannonier has looked good recently and especially against the joker but he has KO power and thats it, i dont see anything that makes me think he can strike with israel. Whittaker put on a shameful performance so no one wants to see an immediate rematch. I think all those battles with yoel took a toll on his chin too. He has to work his way back up.

Cannonier is my personal preference cos that muhfugga Yoel is a suspected juicer. Whittaker was too eager and I told you he would be Izzy's easiest fight as he stylistically plays into Izzy's hands. He's a volume striker fighting arguably the most accurate hitter the division has ever seen, it was always going to end in tearssss

I don't buy the argument Whittaker's battles with Romero took a toll. He had more than enough time to recuperate and a chin is not what you lose. You either have it or you don't. He's not fought as many battles as Stylebender and is even younger.

Yoel can get Izzy especially if he can still find his Ground n Pound. He throws bombs but for me he tends to fade later in fights. Izzy has shown he can take hits, which was my initial fear and if he can withstand the first 3 rounds then the fight is 80% won already.

KarnBarlow:
Paulo costa was the only person who looked like a threat. I'd say right now i'm more intrigued by the winner of till vs gastelum especially if till wins in impressive fashion. Otherwise there is no one at 185 that seems like a proper threat to Israel. I know its MMA and anything can happen but israel is sitting pretty right now.

Every fighter is a threat but I especially don't write off these Brazilian ninjas. Don't forget the only person to ever drop Izzy in all of MMA was Brazilian

KarnBarlow:
As long as he stays as far away from Jon Jones as possible that is. He don't want that smoke.

Lol Bones is a flat track bully. What has to happen for this ninja to move to Heavyweight. How many more middleweights need to move up for him to realize the LH is a Ghost town right now. There is a reason he's had no fight lined up for almost 6 months after his last win. Dominik Reyes is really the only name you can bring up that's not laughable.

I heard he walks around at 230 so why is he so scared to move to Heavyweight? Ironically I think he beats most of the Heavyweight guys out there so long as he doesn't stand and try to trade with them. His cardio would stand him in good stead and save for Ngannou who only needs one punch to send him to the nether realm I think he would be able to finesse a decision or even a submission on most of the rest

This is why I respect your boy Canelo, taking real risks moving up to fight Kovalev at Light Heavyweight. What GGG failed to do in his prime