OkCornel:
^^^

Delusions of the highest order. From his gaffes on tithes & first fruits, now to his lopsided views on the purpose of God’s grace.

Calling others satanists, whereas no one needs to see beyond your lifestyle to see sheer hypocrisy in full display.

“Let’s know so that broke niggas like us can know if it is affordable. I hail you” - albaghdadi November 2016.

God’s grace is there for repentance, and not an excuse to keep wallowing in sin.

Lol!

Anyone against a grace gospel which sends men to hell by encouraging them to continue in their sins, is a Satanist.

Grace indeed!

jesusjnr:
Lol!

Anyone against a grace gospel which sends men to hell by encouraging them to continue in their sins, is a Satanist.

Grace indeed!

Lol...wetin Osuofia no go see for London

Any gospel that doesn’t emphasise on the importance of repentance, to “go and sin no more” is fraud.

Any confessions or belief without a change of heart is hypocrisy.

Jesus clearly said, the pure in heart shall see God.

Anyone that disagrees can feel free to argue with God on the day of judgement.

OkCornel:
It’s amazing how people mistake an extended grace period to pay back a loan to automatically mean cancellation of that loan.

so in other words, you will still pay for your sins.
Grace is not a chance for a sinner to pay for his sins.
According to you Jesus did not pay for any sin, God has been giving time for people to repent since the foundation of the world,
So why did Jesus died then? Dont tell me he died to give sinners extended time to repent because that already existed before Jesus came.

OkCornel:


What law are you keeping?

Were you ever under the Law to start with?

What is the essence of grace about? A get out of jail card to keep on sinning?

God’s mercy and grace is there to ensure we repent and turn from our sinful ways. It’s not a platform to justify being stunted in our spiritual growth and excusing sinful habit in one’s life.

Again, why would Jesus on more than one occasion still say “go and sin no more”

In addition, why would Jesus also admonish “be perfect, for our Heavenly Father is perfect “

Or you think Jesus had no reason for saying these?

There are only two ways to obtain righteousness from God either from the law of moses or by faith in God's provision.
Even people that where not under the law of moses where sinners meaning it was never the law of moses that make people sinners. people where already somewhat under the law even without being fully aware of it. The law of moses only made humans aware of God's requirement.
Rehab was a sinner even if she is not fully aware of moses law but it was her faith that was counted as righteousness before God.

solite3:
There are only two ways to obtain righteousness from God either from the law of moses or by faith in God's provision.
Even people that where not under the law of moses where sinners meaning it was never the law of moses that make people sinners. people where already somewhat under the law even without being fully aware of it. The law of moses only made humans aware of God's requirement.
Rehab was a sinner even if she is not fully aware of moses law but it was her faith that was counted as righteousness before God.

And Simon the sorcerer didn’t believe in Jesus and was baptised?

And as for Rahab, it’s very clear she repented of her ways. Anyhow you people want to put it, repentance is non-negotiable.

No repentance, no change of heart, every other thing is a sheer waste of time which amounts to lip service.

solite3:
There are only two ways to obtain righteousness from God either from the law of moses or by faith in God's provision.
Even people that where not under the law of moses where sinners meaning it was never the law of moses that make people sinners. people where already somewhat under the law even without being fully aware of it. The law of moses only made humans aware of God's requirement.
Rehab was a sinner even if she is not fully aware of moses law but it was her faith that was counted as righteousness before God.

And Job? How was he seen as a righteous man before God?


The foundation of everything is this. Only the pure in heart will see God.

If there’s no change of heart, any other thing amounts to building castles in the air.

Out of the heart springs forth the issues of life.


Why did Jesus still require people to “go and sin no more”

Why did Jesus admonish “be perfect, as our Heavenly Father is perfect “


Well unless you’re implying Jesus gave people impossible instructions to follow.

Is it faith Jesus will use to separate the sheeps from the goats?

OkCornel:


Lol...wetin Osuofia no go see for London

Any gospel that doesn’t emphasise on the importance of repentance, to “go and sin no more” is fraud.

Any confessions or belief without a change of heart is hypocrisy.

Jesus clearly said, the pure in heart shall see God.

Anyone that disagrees can feel free to argue with God on the day of judgement.

I so much love this, but I think fraud is an understatement.
This forever saved people just keep on deceiving themselves with the word grace.

Any gospel that gives you liberty to continue is sin isn't just fraud but is directly from the pit of hell.

Praivit0:


I so much love this, but I think fraud is an understatement.
This forever saved people just keep on deceiving themselves with the word grace.

Any gospel that gives you liberty to continue is sin isn't just fraud but is directly from the pit of hell.

Thank you very much jare.

This is the bitter truth people don’t want to hear.

They would rather peddle lopsided messages on grace and faith.


Jesus said REPENT! for the kingdom of God is at hand.

If the heart is right with God, every other thing (thoughts and actions) will fall in place.

jesusjnr:
Lol!

Anyone against a grace gospel which sends men to hell by encouraging them to continue in their sins, is a Satanist.

Grace indeed!

is Grace license to sin ?

Alternate Monika spotted.





When I called him a Satanist, many thought I was just kidding. Look at the length at which he's going just to discredit the Good News. He's quoting and hailing himself just to make it appear as if his point t has support.

alBHAGDADI:

Alternate Monika spotted.





When I called him a Satanist, many thought I was just kidding. Look at the length at which he's going just to discredit the Good News. He's quoting and hailing himself just to make it appear as if his point t has support.

Praivit0 see this clown at work again.

Same false accusation you resorted to after you were exposed for patronising prostitutes on another thread.

https://www.nairaland.com/5340899/daddy-freeze-reacts-estate-where#80940769


Keep it up At this rate, any other moniker on nairaland that disagrees with you might just be me as well

Kuku call bodydialect57 my other moniker na

OkCornel:



Praivit0 see this clown at work again.

Same false accusation you resorted to after you were exposed for patronising prostitutes on another thread.

https://www.nairaland.com/5340899/daddy-freeze-reacts-estate-where#80940769


Keep it up At this rate, any other moniker on nairaland that disagrees might just be me as well

Kuku call bodydialect57 my other moniker na

Hahahahhahahahahahahahah!

Yay my stomach. Albhagdadi don kee me.

When you hear people emphasizing such a grace, be wary of them.

I didn't even need this info about him to know what he's about, for I have always known that he had a lot to hide by his fruits. God help him recover from this his ways.

Imagine such a person becoming a church leader tomorrow where there would be a several young unassuming ladies, what would you expect? Better unimagined.

malvisguy212:
is Grace license to sin ?

The kind of grace gospel y'all preach is!

What grace do Pastors talk about that is upon them which they use to justify acts of rape and adultery, if not the grace that y'all preach that doesn't require for one to stop acting wickedly?

A married Pastor committed adultery with a young girl and when the girl got pregnant, I think he compelled her to abort the child, and in the process of aborting the child, the girl died.

And when the man was confronted, he was talking about grace upon his life... So what grace was he talking about?

But that which anyone can continue in his iniquity and yet be saved?

That's the grace of hell fire!

OkCornel:


And Simon the sorcerer didn’t believe in Jesus and was baptised?

was judas iscariot not also baptised?

And as for Rahab, it’s very clear she repented of her ways. Anyhow you people want to put it, repentance is non-negotiable.

No repentance, no change of heart, every other thing is a sheer waste of time which amounts to lip service.

Pls point out where it was written that Rahab repented of her ways before she was justified?
Repentance is non negotiable yes, repentance is not justification neither is it righteousness but simply means a change of heart.
God himself is said to repent does that mean God commit sin? I laugh at your ignorance

jesusjnr:
The kind of grace gospel y'all preach is!

What grace do Pastors talk about that is upon them which they use to justify acts of rape and adultery, if not the grace that y'all preach that doesn't require for one to stop acting wickedly?

A married Pastor committed adultery with a young girl and when the girl got pregnant, I think he compelled her to abort the child, and in the process of aborting the child, the girl died.

And when the man was confronted, he was talking about grace upon his life... So what grace was he talking about?

But that which anyone can continue in his iniquity and yet be saved?

That's the grace of hell fire!

so says the man that claims allah is God.
Hope you know Mohammed is in hell now? And you are following his path.
Grace can never lead to hell.
Jesus said whoaoever believe in him will not perish.
Neither you or Mohamad or allah can change that.

solite3:
was judas iscariot not also baptised?

Pls point out where it was written that Rahab repented of her ways before she was justified?
Repentance is non negotiable yes, repentance is not justification neither is it righteousness but simply means a change of heart.
God himself is said to repent does that mean God commit sin? I laugh at your ignorance

Sorry, where was Judas Iscariot baptised? I’d like to learn something new today.

Solite3 where in the scriptures was Judas Iscariot baptised?


Another question on Rahab, after she repented, did she go back to her former ways? Abi is your argument here that one can live a sinful life and still be justified?

Why did Jesus instruct on more than one occasion “go and sin no more”

Why did Jesus instruct “be perfect, for our Heavenly Father is perfect”.

According to the gospel of Solite3 Chapter 2 v 4;

And on the third hour of the first day of the week, Jesus called aside his 12 apostles, including Judas the betrayer, and baptised them by the river Jordan...

solite3:
was judas iscariot not also baptised?

Pls point out where it was written that Rahab repented of her ways before she was justified?
Repentance is non negotiable yes, repentance is not justification neither is it righteousness but simply means a change of heart.
God himself is said to repent does that mean God commit sin? I laugh at your ignorance

Very good, you’re catching up. Repentance means change of heart.

And Jesus clearly said, “blessed are the pure in heart, for they shall see God”


Unless there’s a change of heart, any other thing you confess from now till tomorrow is lip service.


No wonder Jesus said this;

Luke 6 v 45-46;

45 A good man out of the good treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is good; and an evil man out of the evil treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is evil: for of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaketh.

46 And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?

OkCornel:


And Job? How was he seen as a righteous man before God?

Job was righteous by faith.

The foundation of everything is this. Only the pure in heart will see God.

If there’s no change of heart, any other thing amounts to building castles in the air.

Out of the heart springs forth the issues of life.


Why did Jesus still require people to “go and sin no more”

Is your heart pure? Who really can boast of a pure heart? A change of heart? Yes what kind of change of heart is the issue. People change their heart every day do you know that.
Why Jesus require people to sin no more? If people can stop sinning how come they still commit sin?
Why did Jesus come to die on the cross, if people can stop sinning? Why did God appoint yearly sacrifice for the jews incase they sin, if people can stop sinning?
Why did John write that if any man commit sin he has an advocate with the father when people can simply stop committing sin?
My friend stop leaving in denial.

Why did Jesus admonish “be perfect, as our Heavenly Father is perfect “


Well unless you’re implying Jesus gave people impossible instructions to follow.

Is it faith Jesus will use to separate the sheeps from the goats?

can you be perfect like God? Well Jesus said without eating his flesh and drinking his blood you cant have eternal life, I guess you should be looking for Jesus flesh to eat and blood to drink. Jesus you must sell all that you have have and give to the poor, I guess you are still with your phone, what are you waiting for?
You really what to enter heaven with your good works well you have not started.
Only hypocrites preach what they do not do.
Jesus command you not to pass judgment here you are even judging others.
If God open your file you will be in trouble. Its like you think God does not see your sins which you call errors but make no mistake they are sins that will condemn you.
Romans 2:3
And thinkest thou this, O man, that judgest them which do such things, and doest the same, that thou shalt escape the judgment of God?

solite3:
Job was righteous by faith.


Is your heart pure? Who really can boast of a pure heart? A change of heart? Yes what kind of change of heart is the issue. People change their heart every day do you know that.
Why Jesus require people to sin no more? If people can stop sinning how come they still commit sin?
Why did Jesus come to die on the cross, if people can stop sinning? Why did God appoint yearly sacrifice for the jews incase they sin, if people can stop sinning?
Why did John write that if any man commit sin he has an advocate with the father when people can simply stop committing sin?
My friend stop leaving in denial.



can you be perfect like God? Well Jesus said without eating his flesh and drinking his blood you cant have eternal life, I guess you should be looking for Jesus flesh to eat and blood to drink. Jesus you must sell all that you have have and give to the poor, I guess you are still with your phone, what are you waiting for?
You really what to enter heaven with your good works well you have not started.
Only hypocrites preach what they do not do.
Jesus command you not to pass judgment here you are even judging others.
If God open your file you will be in trouble. Its like you think God does not see your sins which you call errors but make no mistake they are sins that will condemn you.
Romans 2:3
And thinkest thou this, O man, that judgest them which do such things, and doest the same, that thou shalt escape the judgment of God?

Ehen, someone is clearly doubting the words of Jesus.

You do not believe you can be pure in heart? Then of what point was Jesus’ preaching on the sermon on the mount?


And if it was impossible to be perfect, why did Jesus instruct on such?


The words of Jesus are too heavy for solite3 to believe

OkCornel:


Very good, you’re catching up. Repentance means change of heart.

And Jesus clearly said, “blessed are the pure in heart, for they shall see God”


Unless there’s a change of heart, any other thing you confess from now till tomorrow is lip service.


No wonder Jesus said this;

Luke 6 v 45-46;

45 A good man out of the good treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is good; and an evil man out of the evil treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is evil: for of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaketh.

46 And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?

having a. Change of heart and having a pure heart are two different thing.
You can have a change of heart without having a pure heart.
Jesus said call no man good.

Thank God
Only a good man can produce good fruit and the same Jesus said no man is good therefore neither you nor me nor Abraham or job is good, therefore we can never produce good fruit.

Matthew 19:17
And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.


Jesus clearly said except you are bornagain you cant see the kingdom of God.
It doesnt matter how much good you have done, just know that before God your goodness is filth because you are not good.

OkCornel:



Ehen, someone is clearly doubting the words of Jesus.

You do not believe you can be pure in heart? Then of what point was Jesus’ preaching on the sermon on the mount?


And if it was impossible to be perfect, why did Jesus instruct on such?


The words of Jesus are too heavy for solite3 to believe

Jesus said no man is good why do you doubt Jesus words.
According to okcornel he is a good Jesus was lying right?

solite3:
Jesus said no man is good why do you doubt Jesus words.
According to okcornel he is a good Jesus was lying right?

According to solite3, Jesus was asking too much from the people he preached to on the mount.

Blessed are the pure in heart, for they shall see God.


Solite3, if there were no good men, please what did Jesus say concerning one of his disciples Nathaniel before He called him?

John 1 v 47 -48

47 When Jesus saw Nathanael approaching, he said of him, “Here truly is an Israelite in whom there is no deceit.”

48 “How do you know me?” Nathanael asked.

Jesus answered, “I saw you while you were still under the fig tree before Philip called you.”

Solite3 I’m still waiting for your scriptural reference where Judas Iscariot was baptised.

OkCornel:
Solite3 I’m still waiting for your scriptural reference where Judas Iscariot was baptised.

how did he became a disciple without baptism, the fact that he was a disciple means he was baptized.

OkCornel:

According to solite3, Jesus was asking too much from the people he preached to on the mount.

Blessed are the pure in heart, for they shall see God.


Solite3, if there were no good men, please what did Jesus say concerning one of his disciples Nathaniel before He called him?

John 1 v 47 -48

47 When Jesus saw Nathanael approaching, he said of him, “Here truly is an Israelite in whom there is no deceit.”

48 “How do you know me?” Nathanael asked.

Jesus answered, “I saw you while you were still under the fig tree before Philip called you.”

did Jesus say Nathaniel was a good man? I m waiting?

solite3:
Jesus said no man is good why do you doubt Jesus words.
According to okcornel he is a good Jesus was lying right?

Basic understanding of the scriptures, you picked out Matthew 19 v 17 and quoted it out of context in the heat of this discussion. Because going by your logic that no man is good, even Jesus queried other people that called Him good.

Matthew 19 v 17
16 And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?
17 And he said unto him,Why callest thou me good? there is none good BUT ONE, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments

Solite3, is Jesus good? what of Moses, Job, Enoch, Abraham, Jabez e.t.c. were these men also good?

solite3:
did Jesus say Nathaniel was a good man? I m waiting?

No o, Jesus said Nathaniel was an evil man full of deceit.

Please where was Judas Iscariot baptized? I'm waiting!

If truly there were no good men, why did Jesus say this solite3?

Luke 6 v 45-46;

45 A good man out of the good treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is good; and an evil man out of the evil treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is evil: for of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaketh.

46 And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?

solite3:
so says the man that claims allah is God.
Hope you know Mohammed is in hell now? And you are following his path.
Grace can never lead to hell.
Jesus said whoaoever believe in him will not perish.
Neither you or Mohamad or allah can change that.

Lol!

The bolded there exposes the fact that you're nothing but a pathetic liar.

If not, you'd have to show us where I made that claim again after withdrawing it.

You're just looking for anything possible to justify your demonic idea of grace, that would give you the licence to continue in your iniquities.

Do you care about what Jesus said or what you just want to believe He said that which suits the desire of your flesh?

Jesus made it clear what He meant by "believe in Him" when He talked about works on several occasions with respect to gaining eternal life, to prove that the belief He meant was not devoid of works.

But of course, you would rather want to "believe in Him" without works, so that you can continue in your iniquity.

Your choice but don't say you weren't warned when you find yourself in hell with all those who were workers of iniquity as yourself.

John 5 v 28-29;

28 Marvel not at this: for the hour is coming, in the which all that are in the graves shall hear his voice,
29 And shall come forth; they that have done good, unto the resurrection of life; and they that have done evil, unto the resurrection of damnation.

If truly there are no good people, why is it that those that did good will be resurrected unto eternal life?

Another poser for you solite3, a man filled with the Spirit of God is full of goodness.

Fruits of the Spirit; Galatians 5 v 22-23;
22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness,
23 gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law.

solite3:
how did he became a disciple without baptism, the fact that he was a disciple means he was baptized.

What sort of lie is this? Solite3, open the scriptures and show us where the disciples were baptized by Jesus. Abi it's now time to bring in your assumptions into the bible which is the "complete word of God"?

Abeg, I'm waiting, where in the scriptures was Judas Iscariot baptised?