jclassiq:


Dear, that man is not close to any god. What he is teaching is nothing but heresy. You on your can decide to serve God wherever you are. But the mistake we usually make is we want to serve God with condition. Eg, I will only serve God if he give me wealth. That is wrong. Can we just serve God for who he is? And watch him bless us?

The bible say seek first the kingdom of God and its righteousness....and every other good thing will be added unto you.

It also says Delight your lself in the lord...and he will bring your heart desire to pass.

Look beyond your present condition and think of eternity for instance. Where will you go from here?

I pray may his grace find you dear sis. Amen.

jclassiq:


Dear, that man is not close to any god. What he is teaching is nothing but heresy. You on your can decide to serve God wherever you are. But the mistake we usually make is we want to serve God with condition. Eg, I will only serve God if he give me wealth. That is wrong. Can we just serve God for who he is? And watch him bless us?

The bible say seek first the kingdom of God and its righteousness....and every other good thing will be added unto you.

It also says Delight your lself in the lord...and he will bring your heart desire to pass.

Look beyond your present condition and think of eternity for instance. Where will you go from here?

I pray may his grace find you dear sis. Amen.

fortran12:


You are responsible for your life, why are you blaming leaders, choices you make now will make u land here or there, but its easy to choose life like God said. Jesus has already finished everything, choose him and live, just as John said if you dont choose Christ you are condemned already but if you choose him you have ( not will have) eternal life (relationship with God). So choose life choose Jesus you have nothing to lose but an eternity to gain.

ABCthings:
If you're saying this what of those in North Korea? As Christians persecution is a norm it is left for you to decide you destination. will you let your leaders drag you to hell?

Rekhina:
I don't have to be a Christian or go to church to be a saint ! The worst kind of persecution is "Economic sabotage to crush the good doers" u guys are so petite smh

Rekhina:
I've been serving God ,but u shud know wat we do to put food on our table are like atrocities in his sight ,I knew it ,u knew it and he knew it !!! ...by Allah dats wat am talking about shikena

FrLukas:


So when Paul said in fear and trembling, work out your salvation. What did he mean?

Rekhina:
Amen Grace shud locate me cos am losing it ,I don't want to go to hell

Rekhina:
I don't have to be a Christian or go to church to be a saint ! The worst kind of persecution is "Economic sabotage to crush the good doers" u guys are so petite smh

Rekhina:
Amen Grace shud locate me cos am losing it ,I don't want to go to hell

malvisguy212:
first of all, the Bible made it clear, salvation is a free gift to all that is received by Faith.it is faith that work, NOT us, the next verse say,: “For it is God which worketh IN YOU
both TO WILL AND TO DO of his good pleasure.” Philippians 2:13

In other word faith work in us.

FrLukas:


So Paul was talking trash?

malvisguy212:
work is the evidence of a saving faith. the believer do not work to be saved . the believer work because he IS saved . the unsaved boasted: look what I have done. but the saved man say THANK YOU GOD FOR WHAT YOU ARE DOING IN ME . the unsaved man boasted in SELF. the saved boasted in GOD .

FrLukas:


Read James 2 vs 14-26

Faith without good works is DEAD!

malvisguy212:
in James 2. what is work in this context ?

FrLukas:


Maybe you should tell me what work means then.

Abi is there another definition for the term "good works" ne?

malvisguy212:
listen, James audience is the saved, the saved man does Good work not because he wanted to be saved, he does Good work because he is proving the EVIDENCE OF A SAVING FAITH. The emphasis in James is that faith is not living unless it is OUTWARDLY shown and DEMONSTRATED in James 2:18 it says :
“Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith,
and I have works: shew me thy faith
without thy works, and I will shew thee
my faith BY my works”

it did not say faith with work, no. it say faith BY my work. this is because there is no way another person can recognized your faith if you do not show it OUTWARDLY , faith takes place in the heart.so in this context work is the evidence of a saving faith .

FrLukas:


So if I have faith according to you, I could rape my neighbour's underaged daughter and I'll go to heaven all the same.

No wonder a lot of pastors have been raping the under aged these days.

They must feel real good about themselves.

FrLukas:


So if I have faith according to you, I could rape my neighbour's underaged daughter and I'll go to heaven all the same.

No wonder a lot of pastors have been raping the under aged these days.

They must feel real good about themselves.

malvisguy212:
listen, James audience is the saved, the saved man does Good work not because he wanted to be saved, he does Good work because he is proving the EVIDENCE OF A SAVING FAITH. The emphasis in James is that faith is not living unless it is OUTWARDLY shown and DEMONSTRATED in James 2:18 it says :
“Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith BY my works”

it did not say faith with work, no. it say faith BY my work. this is because there is no way another person can recognized your faith if you do not show it OUTWARDLY , faith takes place in the heart.so in this context work is the evidence of a saving faith .

FrLukas:
So if I have faith according to you, I could rape my neighbour's underaged daughter and I'll go to heaven all the same.
No wonder a lot of pastors have been raping the under aged these days.
They must feel real good about themselves.

jesusjnr:
Lol!
Tell them.
The grace message that makes men to continue in sin that grace may abound.

MuttleyLaff:




and you call yourself a father. Is that what they nowadays, teach in the RCC cementary dead place, sorry, its a Freudian slip, I meant to type seminary, hmm, that raping the neighbour's underaged daughter is good work, the work of God?. Is that kind of good work, the work of God you think malvisguy212 is talking about hmm? Abeggy, dont let that shameless self proclaimed prophet jesusjnr egg you on to continue saying something that is foolish

jesusjnr:
Lol!

Tell them.

The grace message that makes men to continue in sin that grace may abound.

MuttleyLaff:



[s]
and you call yourself a father. Is that what they nowadays, teach in the RCC cementary dead place, sorry, its a Freudian slip, I meant to type seminary, hmm, that raping the neighbour's underaged daughter is good work, the work of God?. Is that kind of good work, the work of God you think malvisguy212 is talking about hmm? Abeggy, dont let that shameless self proclaimed prophet jesusjnr egg you on to continue saying something that is foolish[/s]

malvisguy212:
you see my brother if you don't understand something , you ask. why did James use the example of Abraham to demonstrate his point ?

FrLukas:
I understand that English isn't our mother tongue. I'm sure if you endeavour to read a lil bit more slowly and go through the arguments from the beginning even more slowly, you'll get the gist of the conversation.

Try it.

jesusjnr:
Lol!

What's there to understand in ignorance?

It's obvious that such message you preach about grace is responsible for men continuing in sin, as pastors are now justifying rape and adultery with the grace of God.

If you can't comprehend that Truth which that bro tried to teach you, I can!

For there nothing more to understand about such grace messages which sends many to hell.

So please do me a favor, and keep such grace to yourself, I don't want to such an idea of grace that encourages men to continue in sin that grace may abound. Thanks.

jesusjnr:
Lol!

Tell them.

The grace message that makes men to continue in sin that grace may abound.

malvisguy212:
are you a Christian ? is raping evidence of a saving Faith ? smh

James 2:14-26 New King James Version (NKJV)

Faith Without Works Is Dead

14 What does it profit, my brethren, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can faith save him? 15 If a brother or sister is naked and destitute of daily food, 16 and one of you says to them, “Depart in peace, be warmed and filled,” but you do not give them the things which are needed for the body, what does it profit? 17 Thus also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead.

18 But someone will say, “You have faith, and I have works.” Show me your faith without [a]your works, and I will show you my faith by [b]my works. 19 You believe that there is one God. You do well. Even the demons believe—and tremble! 20 But do you want to know, O foolish man, that faith without works is [c]dead? 21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works when he offered Isaac his son on the altar? 22 Do you see that faith was working together with his works, and by works faith was made [d]perfect? 23 And the Scripture was fulfilled which says, “Abraham believed God, and it was [e]accounted to him for righteousness.” And he was called the friend of God. 24 You see then that a man is justified by works, and not by faith only.

25 Likewise, was not Rahab the harlot also justified by works when she received the messengers and sent them out another way?

26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.

MuttleyLaff:
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What dialect do you speak, so I can translate the comment you directly made about and in reply to malvisguy212, back to you in that vernacular.

Where is the correlation in what malvisguy212 typed that you directly replied with talking about raping the neighbour's daughter, erhn?

Name one pastor, who has publicly come out, to justify rape and adultery with the grace of God.

James 2:14-26 New King James Version (NKJV)

Faith Without Works Is Dead

14 What does it profit, my brethren, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can faith save him? 15 If a brother or sister is naked and destitute of daily food, 16 and one of you says to them, “Depart in peace, be warmed and filled,” but you do not give them the things which are needed for the body, what does it profit? 17 Thus also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead.

18 But someone will say, “You have faith, and I have works.” Show me your faith without [a]your works, and I will show you my faith by [b]my works. 19 You believe that there is one God. You do well. Even the demons believe—and tremble! 20 But do you want to know, O foolish man, that faith without works is [c]dead? 21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works when he offered Isaac his son on the altar? 22 Do you see that faith was working together with his works, and by works faith was made [d]perfect? 23 And the Scripture was fulfilled which says, “Abraham believed God, and it was [e]accounted to him for righteousness.” And he was called the friend of God. 24 You see then that a man is justified by works, and not by faith only.

25 Likewise, was not Rahab the harlot also justified by works when she received the messengers and sent them out another way?

26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.

FrLukas:


Don't mind them.

They all have itchy ears and want to listen to gospel that suits them.

Imagine saying that you can't lose your salvation even if you commit sin because grace as covered you.

Grace fire all of them there. Grace kor, Philomena ni.