I was just wondering
What is middlebelt today wasn’t North it was for west and east
Also if you look at fight for independence you see mainly Yoruba Igbo Niger delta
But when it was time to hand over power Na Fulani Dem give

During civil war Fulani enjoyed British support
During military rule same thing

So any reasons for this particular phenomenon

Also shame on zik and Awo for not working together
If they did Nigeria would have been built into an equitable union not the one they were antagonist against each other

They are the smartest and most united!

Simple!

AllenSpencer:
They are the smartest and most united!

Simple!

Not now I’m talking historically

Osaze007:


Not now I’m talking historically

Yes! It was a quality the had way back which made the British invest in them.

Because the whites do not like black people who stand up to them...the Fulanis realized that and pretended to be fools so they British hand over the entire country to them.

YungMillionaire:
Because the whites do not like black people who stand up to them...the Fulanis realized that and pretended to be fools so they British hand over the entire country to them.

True Fulani was very subservient to them I guess while Yorubas and Igbos were showing them pepper in South they thought them a lesson

Osaze007:



True Fulani was very subservient to them I guess while Yorubas and Igbos were showing them pepper in South they thought them a lesson

Gbam. Even in America if a black person seem to be too smart, the whites say he is an 'uppity ni55er.' No be today.

YungMillionaire:


Gbam. Even in America if a black person seem to be too smart, the whites say he is an 'uppity ni55er.' No be today.

I don’t know what Azikwe was thinking by saying one Nigeria

The British met the Fulanis in the middle of conquest.

They were both doing the same thing when they met each other.

Being that none of them are originally Nigerians or indigenous to Nigeria, it was easy for them to relate.

The Fulanis submitted to the British on the condition that they won’t interrupt their conquest in the North and also will not build missionary schools in the North to spread Christianity and western education.

horsepower101:
The British met the Fulanis in the middle of conquest.

They were both doing the same thing when they met each other.

Being that none of them are originally Nigerians or indigenous to Nigeria, it was easy for them to relate.

The Fulanis submitted to the British on the condition that they won’t interrupt their conquest in the North and also will not build missionary schools in the North to spread Christianity and western education.

Nope the British defeated the Fulani
Kaniru has defeated Fulani
Yoruba had defeated Fulani
Othman dan fossil was killed in Benue
Infact Tiv in Benue halted Fulani expansion
So effectively they were comatose
But the love for Fulani by white also is in French colonies
The white French especially the Sahel country handed over power to them

I don’t think it’s conquest
Remember edo empire was also expanding and they didn’t favour them the way they favoured Fulani
I think it’s more of the subservient niggas they like

Osaze007:


I don’t know what Azikwe was thinking by saying one Nigeria

Zik was a product of his experience. He studied in America and saw the racist treatment of black peoples. Just like kwame Nkrumah, he was a an Africanist. He wanted a united Africa.


Looking back now, it was a fantasy and a big disaster. We may all have different shades of black skin but we are not the same.

We have fundamentally different value systems.

horsepower101:


Zik was a product of his experience. He studied in America and saw the racist treatment of black peoples. Just like kwame Nkrumah, he was a an Africanist. He wanted a united Africa.


Looking back now, it was a fantasy and a big disaster. We may all have different shades of black skin but we are not the same.

We have fundamentally different value systems.

USA isn’t an indigenous country
I guess that’s what awolowo saw and said he wanted out he was in uk an indigenous region and saw how France was different Britain

Osaze007:


Nope the British defeated the Fulani
Kaniru has defeated Fulani
Yoruba had defeated Fulani
Othman dan fossil was killed in Benue
Infact Tiv in Benue halted Fulani expansion
So effectively they were comatose
But the love for Fulani by white also is in French colonies
The white French especially the Sahel country handed over power to them

I don’t think it’s conquest
Remember edo empire was also expanding and they didn’t favour them the way they favoured Fulani
I think it’s more of the subservient niggas they like

Good point. I don’t disagree with any of that but even though their conquest was on pause, their ambition was and is still alive.

Ojukwu also refused to play the dumb nigger role too which seal the fate of Biafra.

horsepower101:


Good point. I don’t disagree with any of that but even though their conquest was on pause, their ambition was and is still alive.

Ojukwu also refused to play the dumb nigger role too which seal the fate of Biafra.

The guy you quoted is right. The French did something similar in Rwanda (Hutsu vs Tutsi) - see how that unraveled. Europeans did not see Africans as humans but play things. Completely disregarding the bloody consequences of their chess-board theatrics.

YungMillionaire:


The guy you quoted is right. The French did something similar in Rwanda (Hutsu vs Tutsi) - see how that unraveled. Europeans did not see Africans as humans but play things. Completely disregarding the bloody consequences of their chess-board theatrics.

Totally agree.

horsepower101:


Good point. I don’t disagree with any of that but even though their conquest was on pause, their ambition was and is still alive.

Ojukwu also refused to play the dumb nigger role too which seal the fate of Biafra.

No vex but this are two unrelated topics

Osaze007:



No vex but this are two unrelated topics

Why would I vex. I am used to Nigerians changing their views the moment you mention Biafra. It’s the most uncomfortable topic for Nigerians. No surprises here. Carry go.

Osaze007:
I was just wondering
What is middlebelt today wasn’t North it was for west and east
Also if you look at fight for independence you see mainly Yoruba Igbo Niger delta
But when it was time to hand over power Na Fulani Dem give

During civil war Fulani enjoyed British support
During military rule same thing

So any reasons for this particular phenomenon

Also shame on zik and Awo for not working together
If they did Nigeria would have been built into an equitable union not the one they were antagonist against each other

A little education leads to a little information.
A little information leads to a little knowledge
A Little knowledge leads to a little more question
A little more question leads to people calling you Igboman
A little after that, they call you Biafran
..and then you'll soon be sounding like Nnamdi Kalu!

Is it not better just keep your ignorance, and hatred for Igbos?

naijaking1:


A little education leads to a little information.
A little information leads to a little knowledge
A Little knowledge leads to a little more question
A little more question leads to people calling you Igboman
A little after that, they call you Biafran
..and then you'll soon be sounding like Nnamdi Kalu!

Is it not better just keep your ignorance, and hatred for Igbos?

Oh God don’t derail the thread

A known bigot and tribalist is viewing this thread(quota)... Lets wait on wat he has to say

Cos they are politically united than Southerners.

Over educated and too much of ego and pride wont let South work together

1. The British met an organized people that had already developed administrative systems with emirs and their ruling councils which made it much easier for them to govern through the indirect rule system. This is documented in several historical books on the subject.

2. To suggest it was due to subservience is total rubbish. Sokoto fought several wars against the British in the 19th century and even defeated them in one battle. There is a throne (chair) sitting in the Sokoto museum to this day, which was gifted by the Queen of England to one of the early Sultans, and had the sculpture of a slave in chains at the top. The Sultan refused to sit on the throne until the sculpture was cut off from the shoulder up; another act of defiance from the sultanate.

Because the likes of Zik, Awo, et-al were too smart and too well-read for the Brits to control....you could say they were 'too smart for their own good'!

One would say, you dont know what you are saying.
Fulani is minority tribe in nigeria.
If they talk about north, north does not mean fulani.
The big tribe there is hausa, while yobe and borno are distinctively different tribe.
Gombe has about half christian population. Big christian population also in taraba and adamawa.

Lugard perceived them to be more civilized than the animist negro.

IGBOSON1:
Because the likes of Zik, Awo, et-al were too smart and too well-read for the Brits to control....you could say they were 'too smart for their own good'!

Severe delusion of grandeur.

Zik was so busy in partnership with the North (to the utter disgust of Awo), so if you claim the North was being controlled by the British, it only means Zik was also under control of the British through the Northerners.

Think.

QuotaSystem:


Severe delusion of grandeur.

Zik was so busy in partnership with the North (to the utter disgust of Awo), so if you claim the North was being controlled by the British, it only means Zik was also under control of the British through the Northerners.

Think.

Zik was in partnership with whoever and whatever would preserve Nigeria's unity.
Unlike your terrible bigoted leaders, he was about Nigeria first and foremost.
That is why you have a united Nigeria today even when the north wanted to leave(which zik should have allowed in hindsight).

And the Brits hated him because he was among the southern leaders angling for an independent state.

The north didn't care. They have always been happy with mediocrity.
They would have been the last country on earth to gain independence without the South.

Tafawa Balewa, Gowon, IBB, Abacha, abdulsalam are not fulani.
There are many tribes in core north but they manage to work together.

But you should noted that there are millions of pdp followers in core north just as apc has its millions of followers as well.

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helinues:
Cos they are politically united than Southerners.

Over educated and too much of ego and pride wont let South work together

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YungMillionaire:
Because the whites do not like black people who stand up to them...the Fulanis realized that and pretended to be fools so they British hand over the entire country to them.

Pretended to be fools or are innately subservient

The British never handed over to the Fulani. An election was conducted in 1959 and the zik and balewa joined forces to win majority vote.

Balewa was not Fulani. Stop advertising your ignorance on a public forum.

AllenSpencer:
They are the smartest and most united!

Simple!

Wrong answer! The north was the lackey of the British. They were always ready to lick the butt of the British. If they were smart, they wouldn't be so permanently hungry,poor and diseased today.