Ilamina:
Mzdarkskin

Just thinks jamaicans have more culture than black americans

And she grew up mostly around her jamaican mother

It's a good thing I came across this thread and was silently monitoring it. Had you put down for a nice babe whose innocent curiosity leads to her numerous tribalistic treads. I am glad to announce the scales have now fallen off my eyes. You are a troublemaker pure and simple.

No Caribbean black person will ever complain about rubbish except riffrafts from the streets or Brazilian crack heads who know not their father and mother or their people. The Caribbean blacks formed their communities, traditions and culture hundreds of years ago and its mostly based on the traditions and cultures of the African lands from which they were bought and shipped to the Americas. The most common traditions, cultures and languages of the Caribbean blacks are connected to 3 major African native nations in particular.... Zululand (not south Africa as a whole), Yorubaland, the SouthEast and South South *(not Nigeria as a whole) and Ghana (Southern Ghana tribes)

The blacks of the Caribbean formed their communities based on the origins of their ancestors and their traditions, names and language are just a derivative of the original African versions..

Examples

1. WWE Superstar Kofi Kingston is from Jamaica but his name is Ghanaian, hence his visit to that country lately (Oh, Khia is Ghanaian sounding too).

2. Many native black tribes in Honduras have a very strange similarity to the Zulus of South Africa. Their women have unusually huge hips and backsides but the funny thing is, while a man can marry many wives if i want to sleep with any one of his wives i don't need to hide. All i need do is talk price with him FIRST. Once settled I go to the woman's room and leave my shoe outside her door and enter. As long as i am inside that room and my shoes can be seen at the door outside, it is legal and I can fvck as I like. No man can disturb her until i leave. If I don't settle with the man first he must kill me.

I found these people and learned their tradition when on an expensive hunting trip in poor but heavily forested Central America, I love hunting by the way. With automatic rifles.
The tradition is very similar to an old zule one where a warrior goes to the house of his friend and picks one of his wives to sleep with then plants his spear outside her hut to indicate his presence while he is in there.

3. The culture and traditions of the Caribbean blacks are so powerful and complete that they even have voodoo, native doctors and witch doctors like in Africa.

4. Majority of the inhabitants of the Island of Haiti believe they were originally from West Africa, south east and south western Nigeria to be precise. Little wonder that Haiti was the only nation that recognized Biafra during the Nigerian civil war and even trained her soldiers.

4. Babardoos is full of blacks who still use Yoruba names and, or, boast of cultures and gods similar to that of Yorubas. They know Sango well there and serve him.

5. You'll find a lot of the Caribbean blacks and their culture in US states like New Orleans, complete with the fear of the voodoo part. Being able to speak Yoruba to a big black bastard called Akeem saved my life once in a bar there. At the time, Akeem was one of the most dreaded gang leaders in that city but he's not from Africa though, can't even find the continent on a big map. He's from one of them countless Caribbean Islands, Cuba I think but never asked. He entered the US illegally with his mother as a little child.


Ulumina, you need to shut up so the unnecessary drama on this thread will die away. And please wait till the new year to open another such topic.


Thank you very much for your understanding

Bigcowhorn:
It's a good thing I came across this thread and was much for your understanding

All these things you're saying are true on a historical or intellectual level but in everyday life, there is definitely tension between the African, Caribbean and African American communities and it would be naive to deny it.

Just like we enjoy watching Indian movies here even though black and Indian people often clash when living in large numbers in the same environment.

It's one thing to like somebody's culture but another to get along with them in practice

omokoginimi:
There she goes, all emotional. Smh. You once denied ownership of both monikers. I showed you screen shots of both monikers on same thread but you denied

Here you are crying trying to change the narrative after your stinking lying ass has been figured out.

Goat!

You are a damn liar, I have always said both of the names belong to me. How can I deny my moniker when it's right there whenever I make a post?

You idiots need to get a life and stop creating your bullshit. You can not show one post where I ever denied being both. Everyone who knows me knows that both monikers belongs to me so try again. I don't even know who your sorry ass is.

midnighter:


All these things you're saying are true on a historical or intellectual level but in everyday life, there is definitely tension between the African, Caribbean and African American communities and it would be naive to deny it.

Just like we enjoy watching Indian movies here even though black and Indian people often clash when living I'm large numbers in the same environment

Babe, there is tension between tribes and races everywhere even in the US. If you are a black guy minding your own damn business, trying to date that lovely Latina babe across the street can get you killed. I've seen it before.

Blacks from the US are different from those from the Caribbean and South America but trust me, there is more peace here than there is between the blacks, generally, and the whites or even the latinos.

Bigcowhorn:


Babe, there is tension between tribes and races everywhere even in the US. If you are a black guy minding your own business, trying to date that lovely Latina babe next door can get you killed. I've seen it before.

Blacks from the from the US are different from those from the Caribbean and south America but trust me, there is more peace here than there is between the blacks and the whites or even the latinos.

We are not talking about all that. We're discussing tensions between different groups within the black community

You can't explain it away as if it doesn't exist because it does and anybody who comes across them even on social media will still experience it.

adamskutty:
Are u mzdarksin that i know of?
U know, the lady with a big ass and everything
but if u are not her i hope u are as endowed as her or even better

Anyways, i just want to say Hi

Hello, no I am not mzdarkskin. I have been a member since 2011 and this is the first time anyone has mistaken me for her.

midnighter:


We are not talking about all that. We're discussing tensions between different groups within the black community

You can't explain it away as if it doesn't exist because it does and anybody who comes across them even on social media will still experience it.

What i am telling you is it exists everywhere.

Black vs black
Lationos vs lations
Whites vs Whites

They will fight to the death among each other any day any time but unite instantly against other races. A black man will never join a latino or white to fight another black man. Never. Talking about the tension between blacks, its not everywhere though. Many places are perfectly safe. The black race is not at war with itself like you think.

Bigcowhorn:


What i am telling you is it exists everywhere.

Black vs black
Lationos vs lations
Whites vs Whites


They will ifght to the death any day any time, but hey, a black man will never join a latino or white to fight another black man. Never. Talking about tension between blacks, its not everywhere though. Many places are perfectly safe

Again, we are not talking about all those so I don't know why you keep bringing them up.

And I'm not necessarily talking about killing or violence. I am not denying that you would be safe in the company of a group of Caribbeans.

You don't need to kill somebody before its clear that you dislike them.

I'm not sure why you are trying so hard to cover this up when anybody who has spent time with these communities can attest to what I am saying.

midnighter:


Again, we are not talking about all those so I don't know why you keep bringing them up.

And I'm not talking about killing or violence necessarily. I am not denying that you would be safe in the company of a group of Caribbeans.

You don't need to kill somebody before its clear that you dislike them.

I'm not sure why you are trying so hard to cover this up when anybody who has spent time with these communities can attest to what I am saying.

And here I am wondering why you keep insisting the Black man cannot live safely with his brother. If its as bad worldwide as you put out go to Goggle and find one major violence or riot this has sparked. Copy the link and post here.


(*Just watch her bring links to neighborhood gang wars.)

midnighter:


Some of them do. Though it's getting better with the younger generation to some extent

well i am currently right now in dominica schooling.the dominicans here love nigerians and two of my closest colleagues here in class one is jamaican girl from canada and the other is a jamaican who came from the US.they know i am nigerian and they are still friendly to me.The one from the US even loves nigerian food and prepares some of it.Agreed that there might be some few ignorant ones but then this general believe that carribeans hate africans is not generally true.If they hate africans and nigerians how come some of them here are playing nigerian songs.

Why do Nigerians get so sentimental when they think people like them?


Are we that unfamiliar with politeness?

lefulefu:
well i am currently right now in dominica schooling.the dominicans here love nigerians and two of my closest colleagues here in class one is jamaican girl from canada and the other is a jamaican who came from the US.they know i am nigerian and they are still friendly to me.The one from the US even loves nigerian food and prepares some of it.Agreed that there might be some few ignorant ones but then this general believe that carribeans hate africans is not generally true.If they hate africans and nigerians how come some of them here are playing nigerian songs.

Yes, I dont expect you to have many problems in a Caribbean country the same way a Jamaican wouldnt encounter too much resistance if he were to come here (as long as he behaved himself). And everyone in Nigeria loves Caribbean music the same way they love ours.

But there is still genuine friction between black communities in diaspora.

midnighter:


Yes, I dont expect you to have many problems in a Caribbean country the same way a Jamaican wouldnt encounter too much resistance if he were to come here (as long as he behaved himself).

But there are still genuine frictions between black communities in diaspora.

of course yes there few friction her and dere.i agree with that.

lefulefu:
of course yes there few friction her and dere.i agree with that.

midnighter talks like the issue is a dead serious one everywhere in the world and that's my problem. It sure as hell isn't. Where will one even find people from the Caribbean living in large enough communities with Black Americans if not the US east coast? Those are gang or crime related conflicts if you dig deep enough, a black gangbanger will fight another for just living on another street for heavens sake talk even less of coming from another community, that's instant hatred and war and its there among every race. Go to New York or Miami, the Colombians and Mexicans will kill each other any time, any day, and they are Latinos all!



Midnighter: There is genuine friction between black communities in diaspora.

Me: Of course there is cos you are probably looking at the slums and hoods. It's not so everywhere. As a black man the white man is who you really have to worry about in the western world not your fellow black man. But remove the white man and blacks will always fight among each other. That's not news even South Africa can testify to that.

mydn44
rule 19. This boy has an alternate after being banned

omokoginimi:


Who said? Man don’t ever get banned

Bigcowhorn:


midnighter talks like the issue is a dead serious one everywhere in the world and that's my problem. It sure as hell isn't. Where will one even find people from the Caribbean living in large enough communities with Black Americans if not the US east coast? Those are gang or crime related conflicts if you dig deep enough, a black gangbanger will fight another for just living on another street for heavens sake talk even less of coming from another community, that's instant hatred and war and its there among every race. Go to New York or Miami, the Colombians and Mexicans will kill each other any time, any day, and they are Latinos all!

Midnighter: There is tension between people of the Caribbean community and the Black American community.

Me: Of course there is cos you are probably looking at the slums and hoods. Go to other parts of town and people will love you. As a black man the white man is who you really have to worry about in the western world not your fellow black man.

I didnt say it happened everywhere in the world. I said that there are cohesion issues between black people from different countries when there are large numbers of them in a particular place. Mostly due to cultural reasons.

I specifically told you that I wasnt necessarily talking about violence or gangbanging, but because you cant think of any way of answering my point, you keep going back to that even though we both know that saying that there is tension doesnt have to involve bloodshed. A "tension" is just a "tension" until a conflict breaks out! Or you dont know what tension means

For example, it is common for (some) Caribbean men to pierce their ears and braid their hair, whereas in Nigeria we see this as a sign of irresponsible living. Typically, on jamming such a person, if one is not making any particular effort to be open-minded, he may be tempted to assume that the person is somewhat immoral and treat him as such, where the guy just sees himself normally because there is no such association where he comes from. The other guy may sense your hesitation or reluctance and become offended, thinking that you are a snob.

It's not taboo for Caribbean women to smoke, but it's apparently only for "Ashawo" to us here. Even today I still feel some mild shock whenever I see a black woman openly smoking a cigarette even though I don't judge the person's morality on it.

These are real examples that I have observed before and are what I refer to as "tensions".

I dont know why you keep reverting to Latinos, slums and drugs because anybody who went to school with Caribbeans or African Americans knows what Im talking about.

LadyGCrueDKilaB:

rule 19. This crackhead has an alternate after being banned

Remove the crackhead or Myndd will ban you too for sure

okay thanks

Bigcowhorn:


Remove the crackhead or Myndd will ban you too for sure

midnighter:


I didnt say it happened everywhere in the world. I said that there are cohesion issues between black people from different countries when there are large numbers of them in a particular place. Mostly due to cultural reasons.

.

This is why i keep reverting to Latinos to explain to you that all the things you are talking about happens among people of other races period.

Put them all in one area and there will always be cohesion issues as they break up and bond to form groups with something in common, usually language, tradition, culture and, or, religious beliefs.. its a very old and well established law of sociology.

1Sharon:


So you don't believe her?

I hope you know carribeans don't appreciate being classed as the same as AAs right?

let us marry now, ehn?

LadyGCrueDKilaB:
mydn44
rule 19. This boy has an alternate after being banned

gtfoh

Bigcowhorn:


This is why i keep reverting to Latinos to explain to you that all the things you are talking about happens among people of other races period.

Put them all in one area and there will be cohesion issues as they break up and bond to form groups with something in common, usually language, tradition, culture and religious beliefs.. its a very old and established law of sociology.

So why don't you acknowledge it instead of trying to bring in other elements that are not what we're discussing?

Just because it happens with Latinos it doesn't mean it doesn't matter or people who bring it up don't know what they are saying

Somebody is raising a point and you're talking about drugs and white people as if the things people experience aren't real

Bigcowhorn:

No Caribbean black person will ever complain about rubbish except riffrafts from the streets or Brazilian crack heads who know not their father and mother or their people.

This is totally untrue and you completely missed the point of the discussion. Admiring somebody's culture is different from living in the same environment with them for years.

I told you I didn't mean violence and you started talking about slums and race wars. Is that part of your sociology too?

Abeg

e pain am
u shall soon get banned

omokoginimi:
gtfoh

midnighter:


So why don't you acknowledge it instead of trying to bring in other elements that are not what we're discussing?

Just because it happens with Latinos it doesn't mean it doesn't matter or people who bring it up don't know what they are saying

Somebody is raising a point and you're talking about drugs and white people as if the things people experience aren't real

This is totally untrue and you completely missed the point of the discussion. Admiring somebody's culture is different from living in the same environment with them for years.

I told you I didn't mean violence and you started talking about slums and race wars. Is that part of your sociology too?

Abeg

Discussion?

Illumina started a thread and you take it seriously? When did you register on NL? And no I missed nothing. Drugs and gangs are not part of 'my sciology' its part of everyday life that fuels crime, hatred and fiction even among people of the same race. Get used to it. The reason for this thread is a complaint to illumina right? Ask her to post screenshots of it here please let's see if such exists.

Raise your point all you want but I did ask you to back it up with evidence and you couldn't. In the outset you sounded like you had a conspiracy theory on your hands or something. You were like... 'Oh my god, there's trouble brewing between the US and Cuba and WW 3 could be upon us anytime soon" ....and this i strongly disagreed with. Turns out you are talking about plain old sociology... men will bond and form groups with people of like minds.

Come now isn't this much ado about nothing? The problem was there before you and me and will be after we are both gone.

Bigcowhorn:



Discussion?

Illumina started a thread and you take it seriously? When did you register on NL? And no I missed nothing. Drugs and gangs are not part of 'my sciology' its part of everyday life that fuels crime inter racial hatred. Get used to it. The reason for this thread is a complain to illumina right? Ask her to post screenshots of it here please.

Raise your point all you want but I did ask you to back it up with evidence and you couldn't. provide. In the outset you sounded like you had a conspiracy theory on your hands or something. You were like there's trouble brewing between the US and Cuba and WW3 could be upon us anytime soon which i strongly disagreed with. Turns out you are talking about plain old sociology... men will bond and form groups with people of like mind.

Come now is this much ado about nothing?

Hahaha

You wrote a post several paragraphs long and seriously admonished the OP at the end, but you weren't taking it seriously and it wasn't a discussion.

Now that I'm disagreeing with you, I'm the one taking it seriously, having a discussion and making "much ado about nothing".

Again, abeg!

midnighter:


Hahaha

You wrote a post several paragraphs long and seriously admonished the OP at the end, but you weren't taking it seriously and it wasn't a discussion.

Now that I'm disagreeing with you, I'm the one taking it seriously, having a discussion and making "much ado about nothing".

Again, abeg!

Actually I am very interested in someone who has been caught up in the web of confusion here and that's what made it serious to me.... very serious indeed. Hence my post to shut the op up. I did say I was monitoring things silently didn't I?.

Ilumina opens threads like this one from here to Facebook like her life depends on. I'm sure you don't even know her on Facebook, do you?

The abegi is right back in your court. Feel free to disagree with me all you want.



Modified.

Oh, and midnighter, don't get too carried away with the single likes to your comments. That's my mortal NL enemy doing that. His name is BlueAir / Globalman2018 you can thank him later for the support but its nothing special. He does that whenever I am embroiled in arguments with people .

Bigcowhorn:


Actually I am very interested in someone who has been caught up in the web of confusion here and that's what made it serious to me.... very serious indeed. Hence my post to shut the op up. I did say I was monitoring things silently didn't I?.

Ilumina opens threads like this one from here to Facebook like her life depends on. I'm sure you don't even know her on Facebook, do you?

The abegi is right back in your court. Feel free to disagree with me all you want.



Modified.

Oh, and midnighter, don't get too carried away with the single likes to your comments. That's my mortal NL enemy doing that. His name is BlueAir / Globalman2018 you can thank him later for the support but its nothing special. He does that whenever I am embroiled in arguments with people .

Actually sir,
I am not BlueAir/Globalman2018.
I am also not your enemy.

I am an adult female, African American who just agrees with that person's statements regarding this topic.
I have no clue who the person is..just agreeing with her.
They are well written and intellectual.
I am not looking for brownie points.
Next time, be careful what you write in the way of a "joke".

Dasani:


Actually sir,
I am not BlueAir/Globalman2018.
I am also not your enemy.

I am an adult female, African American who just agrees with that person's statements regarding this topic.
I have no clue who the person is..just agreeing with her.
They are well written and intellectual.
I am not looking for brownie points.
Next time, be careful what you write in the way of a "joke".

Thank you for coming on air, Ma'am. The person I'm interested in is an African American adult lady too. But are you sure you are not BlueAir? I mean this is a faceless forum and anything goes. You can agree with anything at all, like i give a shit, but are you really sure you are not this guy BlueAir

Dasani:


Actually sir,
I am not BlueAir/Globalman2018.
I am also not your enemy.

I am an adult female, African American who just agrees with that person's statements regarding this topic.
I have no clue who the person is..just agreeing with her.
They are well written and intellectual.
I am not looking for brownie points.
Next time, be careful what you write in the way of a "joke".

Lol thanks dear, don't worry about him...he's not serious!

midnighter:


Lol thanks dear, don't worry about him...he's not serious!

Lol, the Abegi is still in your court ooo.

MrBrownJay1:
enter thread, read the deluded nonsense post, check OP's name.....

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Same here...na so I take off oooo

Bigcowhorn:


Thank you for coming on air, Ma'am. The person I'm interested in is an African American adult lady too. But are you sure you are not BlueAir? I mean this is a faceless forum and anything goes. You can agree with anything at all, like i give a shit, but are you really sure you are not this guy BlueAir

My pleasure sir. Nice to be here.
I give likes or comments to those I heavily agree with...male or female.
Oh, I am definitely not the African American lady (that you are interested in) for sure.
I am just an African American lady who doesn't want Nigerians in this forum to believe that we have such deep-rooted hatred for white people.
I'm interested in why the young lady has so much rage towards them.
I think you definitely know that I am not a child, boy or man...playing silly games.
No need to use profane language sir.