blueAgent:



In all this long Grammer digression the truth of the matter is they never adhered to Christ teachings and God's word which is the same thing JW is know for.
what gives you credit before God is not going house to house preaching what you like, but what matter most to God is that you go HOUSE TO HOUSE preaching the true word and doctrine of God .

So apart from Jehovah's Witnesses known globally, who are those doing that today?

Maximus69:


Hmmmmmmmmm!

Now you see where we've been having issues all these while!

@bolded, is a big problem that we both need to solve first before we can understand each other!

God never created humans for heavenly life! Psalms 115:16

Earth is our permanent home! Genesis 1:27-28

And God is willing to help us stay alive on it FOREVER! Isaiah 25:8, Psalms 37:7-11, 29

So Jesus' mission on earth is to first of all gather the fittest of men and train them to be his corulers over the earth! Luke 12:32

From Abel till today God's heavenly host has been working tirelessly to gather obedient ones amongst the descendants of Adam for everlasting life on earth! Hebrew 11:4-32

Heavenly life belongs ONLY to a limited number of humans selected amongst the Christians (those who have received training from the Prince of Peace), he promised them that they'll be with him where he lives before coming to the earth! John 14:1-4

There subjects must be ORGANIZED adequately in an orderly manner as a global family of peace loving worshippers! Isaiah 2:1-4 John 17:20-23

That's why i've been maintaining that you shouldn't expect perfection from them, because Jesus will continue to coordinate them for another 1000 years after all unbelievers might have been exterminated! Revelations 20:5-6

Notice that the first set to be resurrected from the death will never die again and they will serve as priests and kings with Jesus (in heaven).

But countless number of OBEDIENT humans (including resurrected faithful servants of God and those who only lived by conscience) will be on earth receiving training through an ORGANIZED system until the end of 1000 years, whoever refused to accept the discipline set by Jesus will not have his name WRITTEN for everlasting life {Revelations 20:15} because it's the born again Christians whose number is 144,000 that's going to work with the angels in heaven to get people's names written!

That's why Jesus said the judgment will be based on our cordiality and support for the born again Christians (Jesus' brothers) Matthew 25:31-46

That's why i kept insisting that everything is gradually working out as planned, anyone reading the Bible and giving any other interpretation now after witnessing the emergence of this arrangement needs to be careful otherwise he will loose everlasting life!

The only sign God is giving all honest hearted and sincere humans is the group amongst whom the 9 qualities of God's holy spirit has becomes obvious, any law you're quoting against them is useless {Galatians 5:22-23} as long as they're forging ahead with God's will (plan).

Am not here to argue on whether Earth or heaven is man's final abode.

What matters to me now is for you to tell me what qualifies you or anyone to receive that reward of eternal life weather in Heaven or Earth?

Maximus69:


So apart from Jehovah's Witnesses known globally, who are those doing that today?

w


You go house to house and you have only 8.5million members some other churches use a different approach and they have over 59million members who do you think won or who is more effective?

blueAgent:
w


You go house to house and you have only 8.5million members some other churches use a different approach and they have over 59million members who do you think won or who is more effective?

Going by your logic we can say "Noah, Shem, Ham and Japheth plus four women lost!"

While all those OUTSIDE the are Won because they are more in number, right?

My friend, the TRUTH is undeniable.

FRUSTRATION comes when you're trying to establish what is not true or when you're battling to refute what is obvious to all eyes!

So keep arguing on social media with your TRINITY friends, i believe i've made myself clear enough on the stand of my global family!

blueAgent:




Am not here to argue on whether Earth or heaven is man's final abode.

What matters to me now is for you to tell me what qualifies you or anyone to receive that reward of eternal life weather in Heaven or Earth?

Go and do what you know can qualify you Sir, it's not compulsory that we agree since we're both seeing matters from different perspective.
When God comes to judge, each of us can stand to explain himself!

Maximus69:


Going by your logic we can say "Noah, Shem, Ham and Japheth plus four women lost!"

While all those OUTSIDE the are Won because they are more in number, right?

My friend, the TRUTH is undeniable.

FRUSTRATION comes when you're trying to establish what is not true or when you're battling to refute what is obvious to all eyes!

So keep arguing on social media with your TRINITY friends, i believe i've made myself clear enough on the stand of my global family!

That's your logic not my.

you were the one that keeps insisting that JW are the best because they have large numbers who love peace and feel like a happy family.

instead of you to judge your standing with God using God's defined standard which is his word you are here creating another standard.

Maximus69:


Go and do what you know can qualify you Sir, it's not compulsory that we agree since we're both seeing matters from different perspective.
When God comes to judge, each of us can stand to explain himself!

In the next 5yrs or so this your church doctrines and prophecies will be proven to be false like every other false teaching your church has done in the past.

blueAgent:








When will you stop exposing your ignorance?


First am the OP of this thread which means am totally against trinity doctrine.

My argument has always been that Jesus was born by God while you guys insist that he was created by God.

But fortunately for me been created by God does not mean he was not born by God because the Synonyms of create is to bare,born procreate e.t.c

Instead of you to accept the truth you are trying hard to prove me wrong which you can never achieve.

Deut 32:18
"You neglected the Rock who begot
you, And
forgot the God who gave you birth."



blueAgent >But fortunately for me been created by God does not mean he was not born by God because the Synonyms of create is to bare,born procreate e.t.c"
Educated ignoramus.. Only God CREATES.
Man and ALL other creatures procreate.

Receive sense.

blueAgent:


When will you stop exposing your ignorance?


First am the OP of this thread which means am totally against trinity doctrine.

My argument has always been that Jesus was born by God while you guys insist that he was created by God.

But fortunately for me been created by God does not mean he was not born by God because the Synonyms of create is to bare,born procreate e.t.c

Instead of you to accept the truth you are trying hard to prove me wrong which you can never achieve.

Deut 32:18
"You neglected the Rock who begot
you, And
forgot the God who gave you birth."

**Psalm 90:2**
"Before the mountains were born, before you
gave birth to the earth and the world, from
beginning to end, you are God."

# blueAgent >But fortunately for me been created by God does not mean he was not born by God because the Synonyms of create is to bare,born procreate e.t.c"
Educated ignoramus.. Only God CREATES.
Man and ALL other creatures procreate.

Receive sense.

ochibuogwu5:
This is what the 3-unique natures of God looks like for easier understanding.
Using a human being as an example
A man who is the head of His Family is called *Father*
The same man was born of a particular parent hence He is also *a Son*
The same man teaches in a school hence he is called *a teacher*.
These titles and responsibilities of *Father*, *Son* and *teacher* is performed by *One Person who is the same* but at different times and locations.
This is the same way *One God* has *3-titles and responsibilities(Father, Son and Holy Spirit)* but He can manifest 3-of them at the same time and the same location and at different times at the same location or at different times and different locations. This is what is called the *Trinity* or *Triune* nature of *One God* who is *Almighty*. He is One God, He is One Lord in whatever title/responsibility He chooses to use in manifesting Himself whether as Father, Son or Holy Spirit, whether in the heavens, earth or under-world at the same time or at different times. Great Grace Brethren!!!

Please Sir, Can you explain Hebrews 9:24 , Matt 24:36,& 1 Cor11:3?

Rev 3:5,12,21, why is your "God" sitting on his Father's throne in heaven?

Janosky:


Deut 32:18
"You neglected the Rock who begot
you, And
forgot the God who gave you birth."

**Psalm 90:2**
"Before the mountains were born, before you
gave birth to the earth and the world, from
beginning to end, you are God."

# blueAgent >But fortunately for me been created by God does not mean he was not born by God because the Synonyms of create is to bare,born procreate e.t.c"
Educated ignoramus.. Only God CREATES.
Man and ALL other creatures procreate.

Receive sense.

Your naivety is beyond redemption.

Only God create , that's true you just proved me right because Jesus created all things which means Jesus is God by nature.

Colossians 1:16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:


The question is can any Angel or Man create anything?

Janosky:


Deut 32:18
"You neglected the Rock who begot
you, And
forgot the God who gave you birth."



blueAgent >But fortunately for me been created by God does not mean he was not born by God because the Synonyms of create is to bare,born procreate e.t.c"
Educated ignoramus.. Only God CREATES.
Man and ALL other creatures procreate.

Receive sense.

John 1:3
All things were made by him; and without him was not any
thing made that was made.

blueAgent:



In the next 5yrs or so this your church doctrines and prophecies will be proven to be false like every other false teaching your church has done in the past.

Jehovah's people are used to enlightenment Sir!

Our understanding about God's purpose and his will has been on the increase since the time of Abel till date. If you check your copy of the Bible and read with meditation, you will realise that in every generation God's people learn new ways of doing things. The only thing that distinguish us from pagans is the fact that we all are ever willing to adapt to the new system, while pagans will stick to whatever their human founders laid down for them as if they mustn't improve in their understanding, and to worsen it all they will still accommodate those whose religious ideas are outdated plus those bringing new ideas so as not to step on toes!

We are Jehovah's Witnesses!

We move together as an organization, so don't think we're going to stop in our learning new things, it's when we finally get to God's kingdom that each of us will stop learning from the organization and start having direct dealing with God personally, but until then we must continue moving together as a family most especially in this time that all of you are confused as to how to worship God acceptably!

blueAgent:



That's your logic not my.

you were the one that keeps insisting that JW are the best because they have large numbers who love peace and feel like a happy family.

instead of you to judge your standing with God using God's defined standard which is his word you are here creating another standard.

The logic is to help you gain consciousness!

Because you've been spewing gibberish all this while claiming you want to refute TRINITY, you can't find any religious group that will agree with your argument, there is just one single global group that's having a unique form of teaching, they've debunked TRINITY and they're up and doing in preaching and teaching throughout the earth.

Instead of you to humble yourself and learn from them how they're able to refute TRINITY, you're trying to fault their teaching with useless arguments, now they claim that members of this unique group having the same line of thought are numbering over 8,500,000 globally you shamelessly switch over to support your fruitless argument that other (TRINITY adherents who aren't united in thought) also number 59,000,000.

So if you feel that the divided 59,000,000 are actually fit to stand in contrast to the 8,500,000 who are united in thought, then why doubting the TRINITY that has brought the 59,000,000 together?
Are you now saying God is using you to correct the 59,000,000 (who will never abandon their TRINITY God for you)?

My friend STOP DECEIVING YOURSELF!

It's either you continue worshiping TRINITY with your Church or join Jehovah's Witnesses the only group against TRINITY or better still open your own worship center, there is no other option Sir!

Maximus69:
Wahala dey for OKOKO!

Kpele no get depression o. Just know you will die waiting for your invisible sky daddy to come commit genocide for you.

Maximus69:


The logic is to help you gain consciousness!

Because you've been spewing gibberish all this while claiming you want to refute TRINITY, you can't find any religious group that will agree with your argument, there is just one single global group that's having a unique form of teaching, they've debunked TRINITY and they're up and doing in preaching and teaching throughout the earth.

Instead of you to humble yourself and learn from them how they're able to refute TRINITY, you're trying to fault their teaching with useless arguments, now they claim that members of this unique group having the same line of thought are numbering over 8,500,000 globally you shamelessly switch over to support your fruitless argument that other (TRINITY adherents who aren't united in thought) also number 59,000,000.

So if you feel that the divided 59,000,000 are actually fit to stand in contrast to the 8,500,000 who are united in thought, then why doubting the TRINITY that has brought the 59,000,000 together?
Are you now saying God is using you to correct the 59,000,000 (who will never abandon their TRINITY God for you)?

My friend STOP DECEIVING YOURSELF!

It's either you continue worshiping TRINITY with your Church or join Jehovah's Witnesses the only group against TRINITY or better still open your own worship center, there is no other option Sir!

This una robotic behavior no be here. Lol
No be only united in thought. Una be zombie na

Hairyrapunzel:



This una robotic behavior no be here. Lol
No be only united in thought. Una be zombie na

Walahi Talahi BIG wahala dey for OKOKO!

blueAgent:


John 1:3
All things were made by him; and without him was not any
thing made that was made.

Romans 15:6 , "that with one accord you
may with one voice glorify the God and
Father of our Lord Jesus Christ ."
2 Corinthians 1:3 , "Blessed be the God
and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ , the
Father of mercies and God of all comfort."

** Jesus says "I am ascending to your Father and my Father, your God and my God" John20:17.
Compare Rev3:5,12-14.

*** 1 Cor8:6
there is for us only one God, the FATHER
who is THE CREATOR OF ALL....

** How come you & your Lord share the same Father and the same God in heaven and earth ?
Receive sense.

Trinity is Real. Prove your own Theory.

Janosky:


Romans 15:6 , "that with one accord you
may with one voice glorify the God and
Father of our Lord Jesus Christ ."
2 Corinthians 1:3 , "Blessed be the God
and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ , the
Father of mercies and God of all comfort."

** Jesus says "I am ascending to your Father and my Father, your God and my God" John20:17.
Compare Rev3:5,12-14.

*** 1 Cor8:6
there is for us only one God, the FATHER
who is THE CREATOR OF ALL....

** How come you & your Lord share the same Father and the same God in heaven and earth ?
Receive sense.

You craftly dodged the question I asked, your response is not related to the question at hand.

orunto27:
Trinity is Real. Prove your own Theory.

I've told him ooooooooo!

Join those who don't believe TRINITY, he said NO!

OK go back to your Church and welcome TRINITY, he said NO!

He's trying to form another Daddy Freeze here!

Maximus69:


Jehovah's people are used to enlightenment Sir!

Our understanding about God's purpose and his will has been on the increase since the time of Abel till date. If you check your copy of the Bible and read with meditation, you will realise that in every generation God's people learn new ways of doing things. The only thing that distinguish us from pagans is the fact that we all are ever willing to adapt to the new system, while pagans will stick to whatever their human founders laid down for them as if they mustn't improve in their understanding, and to worsen it all they will still accommodate those whose religious ideas are outdated plus those bringing new ideas so as not to step on toes!

We are Jehovah's Witnesses!

We move together as an organization, so don't think we're going to stop in our learning new things, it's when we finally get to God's kingdom that each of us will stop learning from the organization and start having direct dealing with God personally, but until then we must continue moving together as a family most especially in this time that all of you are confused as to how to worship God acceptably!

Ironically this your comment suits and fits your church JW,
Let me ask you how is JW different from pagans when both of them deny Jesus?

Maximus69:


The logic is to help you gain consciousness!

Because you've been spewing gibberish all this while claiming you want to refute TRINITY, you can't find any religious group that will agree with your argument, there is just one single global group that's having a unique form of teaching, they've debunked TRINITY and they're up and doing in preaching and teaching throughout the earth.

Instead of you to humble yourself and learn from them how they're able to refute TRINITY, you're trying to fault their teaching with useless arguments, now they claim that members of this unique group having the same line of thought are numbering over 8,500,000 globally you shamelessly switch over to support your fruitless argument that other (TRINITY adherents who aren't united in thought) also number 59,000,000.

So if you feel that the divided 59,000,000 are actually fit to stand in contrast to the 8,500,000 who are united in thought, then why doubting the TRINITY that has brought the 59,000,000 together?
Are you now saying God is using you to correct the 59,000,000 (who will never abandon their TRINITY God for you)?

My friend STOP DECEIVING YOURSELF!

It's either you continue worshiping TRINITY with your Church or join Jehovah's Witnesses the only group against TRINITY or better still open your own worship center, there is no other option Sir!

Stop confusing yourself JW is not recognized by God according to the word of God they are Anti-Christ.


Who is the liar but the one who denies
that Jesus is the Christ? This is the
antichrist, the one who denies the
Father and the Son.
— 1 John 2:22 NRSV (1989)
By this you know the Spirit of God:
every spirit that confesses that Jesus
Christ has come in the flesh is from
God, and every spirit that does not
confess Jesus is not from God. And this
is the spirit of the antichrist, of which
you have heard that it is coming; and
now it is already in the world.
— 1 John 4:2–3 NRSV
For your information a large part of adventist and many other churches are against the trinity doctrine
Am not surprised that you don't know that. because your church is good at confusing it's member and telling them that they are the only good churchwhen they are been lead astray.

Maximus69:


Walahi Talahi BIG wahala dey for OKOKO!

Are you still thinking about destruction/genocide/murder your jehovah will comit?

blueAgent:




Ironically this your comment suits and fits your church JW,
Let me ask you how is JW different from pagans when both of them deny Jesus?

Your question simply reveals how degraded your thinking skills!

Jehovah's Witnesses preach from house to house! Matthew 10:11-15, Act 20:20

Jehovah's Witnesses disarmed all their members so that none learns how to kill anymore! Matthew 26:52, Micah 4:3

Jehovah's Witnesses do not participate in Politics! John 6:15, 17:14-16

Jehovah's Witnesses ensure there is LOVE, JOY and PEACE in their midst! John 13:34-35, Galatians 5:22

Jehovah's Witnesses refrain from all umbilical festivities! 1Corinthians 10:20-21

Jehovah's Witnesses maintains monogamy in marriage! Titus 1:6

Jehovah's Witnesses ensure their youths aren't peculiar to Juvenile delinquency! Ephesians 6:1-3

Jehovah's Witnesses are the number one group talking about obedience to superior authorities! Romans 13:1

Is this how you fight for your God with prejudicial comments and bold lies? Act 24:5

I'm sorry for you Sir!

blueAgent:



Stop confusing yourself JW is not recognized by God according to the word of God they are Anti-Christ.


Who is the liar but the one who denies
that Jesus is the Christ? This is the
antichrist, the one who denies the
Father and the Son.
— 1 John 2:22 NRSV (1989)
By this you know the Spirit of God:
every spirit that confesses that Jesus
Christ has come in the flesh is from
God, and every spirit that does not
confess Jesus is not from God. And this
is the spirit of the antichrist, of which
you have heard that it is coming; and
now it is already in the world.
— 1 John 4:2–3 NRSV
For your information a large part of adventist and many other churches are against the trinity doctrine
Am not surprised that you don't know that. because your church is good at confusing it's member and telling them that they are the only good churchwhen they are been lead astray.

Can you please explain the correlation between your comment and this quotation?

What has "Jesus coming in the flesh" got to do with your argument?

What have you been doing to support the notion that JESUS CAME IN THE FLESH?


Learn what it means!
©He has a handiwork! Mark 6:3
©He was poor materially speaking! Luke 9:58, 2Corinthians 8:9
©He hungered while serving God! Mark 11:12, John 4:33, Luke 4:2
©He was social! John 2:1-2
©He drinks alcoholic beverages (responsibly)! Luke 7:31-35
©He had human feelings! John 11:35
©He was abused, mocked, slapped, beating, accused, charged, sentenced and executed like a normal human!

So if any group claiming Christians are trying to portray Jesus as a person who never lived as normal humans (IN THE FLESH), such a religious group is of Satan the deceiver.

That's the import of what you just quoted, so how does it correlates with what you're saying there?

And that's what Jehovah's Witnesses have been trying to help you understand. Jesus was God's son just like Adam! Luke 3:38

The only difference there is that Jesus set fine example by remaining obedient even in the face of excruciating torture, while Adam fall YAKATA at the slightest test of faith because he wants to be with his wife! 1Timothy 2:14

So if your religion is not teaching you that you too can stand firm like Jesus, that means they're trying to tell you that (he was able to pass the test because HE IS NOT HUMAN like you, meaning he did not experience what THE FLESH is passing through)

Maximus69:


Can you please explain the correlation between your comment and this quotation?

What has "Jesus coming in the flesh" got to do with your argument?

What have you been doing to support the notion that JESUS CAME IN THE FLESH?


Learn what it means!
©He has a handiwork! Mark 6:3
©He was poor materially speaking! Luke 9:58, 2Corinthians 8:9
©He hungered while serving God! Mark 11:12, John 4:33, Luke 4:2
©He was social! John 2:1-2
©He drinks alcoholic beverages (responsibly)! Luke 7:31-35
©He had human feelings! John 11:35
©He was abused, mocked, slapped, beating, accused, charged, sentenced and executed like a normal human!

So if any group claiming Christians are trying to portray Jesus as a person who never lived as normal humans (IN THE FLESH), such a religious group is of Satan the deceiver.

That's the import of what you just quoted, so how does it correlates with what you're saying there?

And that's what Jehovah's Witnesses have been trying to help you understand. Jesus was God's son just like Adam! Luke 3:38

The only difference there is that Jesus set fine example by remaining obedient even in the face of excruciating torture, while Adam fall YAKATA at the slightest test of faith because he wants to be with his wife! 1Timothy 2:14

So if your religion is not teaching you that you too can stand firm like Jesus, that means they're trying to tell you that (he was able to pass the test because HE IS NOT HUMAN like you, meaning he did not experience what THE FLESH is passing through)

So you are pretending not to know your Church opinion about Jesus?

Your Church denies that Jesus is the literal son of God hence they're deny the father and son which makes them Anti-Christ.
Not my word but that of God.

Maximus69:


Your question simply reveals how degraded your thinking skills!

Jehovah's Witnesses preach from house to house! Matthew 10:11-15, Act 20:20

Jehovah's Witnesses disarmed all their members so that none learns how to kill anymore! Matthew 26:52, Micah 4:3

Jehovah's Witnesses do not participate in Politics! John 6:15, 17:14-16

Jehovah's Witnesses ensure there is LOVE, JOY and PEACE in their midst! John 13:34-35, Galatians 5:22

Jehovah's Witnesses refrain from all umbilical festivities! 1Corinthians 10:20-21

Jehovah's Witnesses maintains monogamy in marriage! Titus 1:6

Jehovah's Witnesses ensure their youths aren't peculiar to Juvenile delinquency! Ephesians 6:1-3

Jehovah's Witnesses are the number one group talking about obedience to superior authorities! Romans 13:1

Is this how you fight for your God with prejudicial comments and bold lies? Act 24:5

I'm sorry for you Sir!

Crap.

Even Atheist practice all this things you mentioned.

Please explain to me how you people are not different from pagans with regards to the divinity of Jesus.

blueAgent:


So you are pretending not to know your Church opinion about Jesus?

Your Church denies that Jesus is the literal son of God hence they're deny the father and son which makes them Anti-Christ.
Not my word but that of God.

My friend.

If your landlord introduce his son (heir) to all his properties to all the tenants residing in his vast estate saying
"This is my son, he's going to become your landlord henceforth, i want you all to cooperate with him because he knew everything that can make you live happily and securely in the estate"

Please judge for yourself, between those PRACTICING what the son says and those shouting his name in the streets without obeying him, who is doing what your landlord wanted? Matthew 7:21-23

Whether you call Jesus your gateman, cleaner, laundry man, gardener, driver, house help or any other thing that comes to your mouth, observers will know what Jesus meant to you when you refused to do anything with your own initiative except what Jesus said!

Of course they'll say "he claims the guy is his house help, but from the look of things it's obvious that the so called house help is his Master"

It's not what Jehovah's Witnesses calls Jesus that matters anymore now but how they are able to put his words into action? Matthew 5:14-16, 7:24-27

So wake up from your spiritual slumbering!

blueAgent:



Crap.

Even Atheist practice all this things you mentioned.

Please explain to me how you people are not different from pagans with regards to the divinity of Jesus.

With this your DIVINITY problem, just go back and join the trinitarians. They're waiting for you!

For your information, Jehovah's Witnesses have published several publications that's used in training their members to be effective preachers and teachers. Of course you will say they're not getting it right but all evidences is pointing to the fact that THEY ARE GLOBALLY DOING THE NEEDFUL AS FOLLOWERS OF CHRIST

So if you're still arguing after seeing their publications that's based on the life and ministry of Jesus, then you can go and do the WORK Jesus commissioned in a better way, of course the world is watching you! Matthew 5:14-16

blueAgent:
The trinity doctrine teaches that God the Father, the Son and the Holyspirit are equal and one and the same God.
   Although a very popular and widely accepted doctrine among christains the trinity doctrine is unbiblical and not in accordance with the word of God. The word Trinity does not appear in the Bible neither was such doctrine taught by the Apostles or known to the early Christains.
The trinity doctrine was instituted by men at the Council of Nicaea in AD325 and at Council of Constantinople in AD381.
The trinity doctrine has it's origin in pagan Sun god worship that was started by Nimrod and his wife.

Who is God and Jesus?
The Bible is clear on the identity of God and his Son, Jesus they are 2 different beings or persons
Although one in unity and purpose, their relationship is that of father and Son.
The Apostles always identified God as the father who has neither beginning or end ,who alone has immortality,all power and authority  they also identified and distinguished  Jesus as the only begotten Son of God  and not God the Father himself here is an  example.
2John1:3  Grace be with you, mercy and peace, from God the Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of the Father, in truth and love.
The identity of Jesus was well known to the discples of Jesus
Peter  in Matt 16:16,Martha the sister of  Lazarus, the  Centurion man,the high priest and many others  including the   Demons all identified Jesus as the son of God (remember Demons are fallen Angels)matthew8:29.
It is important that we understand who Jesus is, as  Jesus himself was interested in knowing whom people said he was. Luke 9:18

All through the Bible the personality of God and Jesus has been established and clearly stated.
It will be illogical for Jesus while he was on Earth to teach that he was sent by his father if  he himself was the father.
The question is who sent Jesus?
who did Jesus pray to when he was on the cross or when he raised Lazarus from the grave?Who was Jesus pleading to  to take away the cup? John 12:27
Whose will was Jesus referring to when he said father not my will but yours, mark 14:36
The evidence shows that Jesus was not the Father acting as the Son here on Earth but was the Son of God sent by God to the Earth to die as a ransom for man,John 6:38

Jesus, Son of God

The trinity doctrine teaches a 3in 1 god, that there are 3 but equal gods.
It denies the word of God that says Jesus is the BEGOTTEN Son of God. the same way a biological father proceeds his son so also God the Father proceeds his son, Jesus  Christ.
The Bible refers to Jesus as the first born of all creations Colossians 1:15,proverbs 8:22-end,Rev 3:14.
Jesus was brought into existence  at a certain time by his father before the World was created. Acts 13:33, God hath fulfilled the same unto us their children, in that he hath raised up Jesus again; as it is also written in the second psalm, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee.

John5:26 For as the Father hath life in himself; so hath he given to the Son to have life in himself; so it was God that gave Jesus life and not Jesus having his own life independently as claimed by trinitarians.
here are Jesus own words on his origin and existence.
Proverbs 8:22.
Unlike the Angels and other created beings who were made by the hand of  God, Jesus proceeded or came out  from his father John 8:42,16:27&28,17:8
He had the very nature , image and substance of his father, God. which no other created being has. Hebrews 1:4 Being MADE so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.
Hebrews 1:5 For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?  1:6 And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him.

Note: Angels are sons of God by creation,born again Christains are sons of God by adoption (Romans 8:14-15) but Jesus Christ is the Son of God by inheritance Heb 1:4,

Are they Equal?

The trinity teaches that Jesus and the Holyspirit are co-equal with God but the Bible is abundantly clear that the son is not Co-equal with God.
No where in the Bible did Jesus  ever call himself God or equate himself to the father rather he reiterated the fact that he was sent by the father to do the will of the father and that the one who sends another is greater than the one sent.John13:16-20.
John 17:13, Matthew 10:40,John 10:18.
Rather than claim equality with God as fasely  taught by the trinity doctrine Jesus declares that his father is greater than him in John 14:28,he also calls his father his God Matt 27:46,John 20:17, here are some other verses to clearify this point
1Corinthains11:3,Colossians 1:14-19,John 5:19-47,John 5:19 & 5:20,John 5:27, Isaiah 53:11,Isaiah 42:1,Isaiah 49:7 Luke 24:19,
Philippians 2:5
Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: 2:6 Who, being in the form of God(nature of God, of cos he was born by God so he will bear God's nature), thought it not robbery to be equal with God:  2:7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men :2:8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross. 2:9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name.

God Honours his Son.

After the ressurection and Ascension of Jesus to Heaven  God exalted Jesus and gave him a name above every other name Philippians 2:9.
It will be illogical for God to exalts and give power and authority to Jesus if he was co- equal with God and already had those privileges.Ephesians 1:20-23, Mark 12:36.
The Bible also teaches that at the end of the great controversy between good and evil when all power and principalities have been subdued for the sake of Jesus. Than Jesus will subject all things including himself to God 1Corinthians 15:28.

Who is the Holyspirit.

The Holyspirit is not a person or being as taught by the trinitarians but the the Holyspirit is the spirit of God and his Son Jesus, Ephesians 4:30, 1Thessalonians 4:8,God is a spirit who has a spirit which is his  mind,will,purpose,power,  and presence Genesis 1:2, Zachariah 4:6, 1peter 1:1.
It is this spirit  that God sends to us that dwells in us and enables us to do his will,Romans 8:9&11, 1john4:13, Isaiah 63:11, 1Corinthains 3:16, 1 Corinthians 12:8-11,John 7:39,14:17, Ezeikel 36:27.
Just as we showed earlier that Jesus did nothing of his own will or desire but that of his father so also the Holy spirit can only speak and show what it is instructed to say . This is evidence that it is not a being Co-equal with God that has it's own power and will.
There are few verses  that have been taken out of context and are used by  the trinitarians to promote their false doctrines
E.g is that the Bible refers to the Holy spirit as HE this does not prove  anything because  there are examples in the Bible where non- living things are personified or expressed with words like he or his examples are in proverbs 1:20,7:4,8:1,9:1where wisdom and knowledge are reffered to as he,his,she this also applies to the Holy spirit.
The Holy Spirit is likened  to a gift
In Luke 11:13,God pours out his Holy spirit Acts 2:18.
The identity and function of the Holy Spirit will be treated in subsequent articles.

Implications of the Trinity doctrine.

This doctrine has severe implications and consequences as it teaches that Jesus is not the literal Son of God,that Jesus is the same age as the father and has always existed along side him but this will make them twins and not a real  Father and Son it also teaches that the holyspirit is a being  Co-equal and  co-eternal making them triplets.

Thus the trinity doctrine denies that both the father and son are two different persons thus it denies their personality or persons.

Apostle Paul taught Christains that the Antichrist is anyone or teaching that denies Jesus is the son of God and thus denies the father and son  1John2:22-23,1john 4:3
It distorts who God says he is.
The doctrine of trinity also lends credance  or promotes the Catholic teaching that Mary is the mother of God  since it claims Jesus is   God and Co-equal to God. It is not surprising that this trinity doctrine was instituted by the usual suspects the Catholic Church and they claim it is the foundation on which all other of there teachings is based on.

Note:The angel that delivered the message  to Virgin  Mary  told her that the  child will be called( the Son of God) and not God. Nothing stops God from describing Jesus as God or his twin or avatar, rather he  used the adjective SON of God to distinguish him from the Father.

Conclusion.
The trinity doctrine cannot be proved in the Bible neither does it have any divine origin or inspiration.
It is one of those man made doctrines that have crept into Christaintity. it is unacceptable to God and contracdicts God's word about himself.
A lot of lies have been sold to us as Bible doctrines which are not Biblical, I urge the readers to do more research on this topic and to diligently search the word of God  2 Timothy 2:15, just like Paul said that we should prove all things through the scripture, rightfully dividing the word of God and not depending on men or some few Bible verses that have been lifted out of context inorder to suit a preconcieved  belief or idea.1Thessalonians 5:21

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