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Re: ...... by Nobody: 12:13am On Nov 07, 2019 |
movado19: Seen .May Allah reward you |
Re: ...... by aumeehn: 5:28am On Nov 07, 2019 |
Mustsucceed:I perfectly understand you. As for me I don't like talking about such issues especially online. besides I don't even like talking all the times. |
Re: ...... by Nobody: 6:10am On Nov 07, 2019 |
Re: ...... by Nobody: 6:19am On Nov 07, 2019 |
aumeehn: Well its faceless forum and no one knows anyone.one can ask for advise and get as times u need people to advise and u don't want your issues out there so for me I feel most comfortable as in reality,I can't discuss with people. Thanks for making me feel bad.I have decided to keep malice with you till after ramadan inshaa Allah |
Re: ...... by aumeehn: 8:55am On Nov 07, 2019 |
haa! listen! i know you will be viewing this thread with another moniker or as a guest, each an everyone one of us is liable for what he or she post here. i just talk my mind o and you don vex deactivate account. this is serious, what i posted is just my opinion but you took it personal. Anyway i will let you be. |
Re: ...... by Empiree: 5:42am On Nov 17, 2019 |
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Re: ...... by LadunaI(m): 10:49am On Dec 14, 2019 |
Empiree:This interesting clip. The buck of problems on tasawwuf stem from illiterate folks that barely no the basic of Deen started doing tariqa. I think the prerequisite for any iniation should be how verse person as gone in term of fiqh and Sharia. It been long my sheikh, we're thirsty of irfan knowledge. Give us something to ponder over. Even the stories you normally share goes along in open our eyes to some important stuff. Read a thread recently that the name Muahammed is now among the 10 most common name given to new born in the State now. Wow! more of that till Islam spread more in that part of the world. And hope with beautiful dawah. |
Re: ...... by LadunaI(m): 12:11pm On Dec 14, 2019 |
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Re: ...... by LadunaI(m): 12:21pm On Dec 14, 2019 |
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Re: ...... by LadunaI(m): 12:22pm On Dec 14, 2019 |
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Re: ...... by LadunaI(m): 12:29pm On Dec 14, 2019 |
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Re: ...... by Empiree: 12:36pm On Dec 14, 2019 |
LadunaI:i very much hate those lazy guys. They are the reason puritan condemn tassawuf. I just wonder if there isn't proper coordination or top learned men to put these people in check?. They annoy me a lot. They come out and start speaking woroworo. Everything in Nigeria is just always negative especially when it comes to Muslims. It is not too late to rectify things now. The way things are going down I am afraid Islamic spirituality will be obliterated either by way of total condemnation or hereticism(devoid of figh and Sharia). I went to Nigeria briefly 2 weeks ago first time in about 20yrs. Spent very short time with my sheikh and asked few questions. Alhamdululah he didn't differ from many things we have said here generally. Read a thread recently that the name Muahammed is now among the 10 most common name given to new born in the State now. Wow! more of that till Islam spread more in that part of the world. And hope with beautiful dawah.Indeed. Same thing surfaced some years back. Just watch out for mad news. Media hate this kind of thing. They don't want mankind to hear or know anything positive relate to "Muhammad". You get to hear arrests of Muslim boys and their names are muhammad. But their hands don fall now. They have tried this several years ago but failed. Here we are again, Muhammad tops the list of baby names in America. 4 Likes |
Re: ...... by LadunaI(m): 2:37pm On Dec 14, 2019 |
Empiree:Wow 20yr! And you don't let us know so that we can meet up and say Salam live and direct. Thank God for the journey mercies. I believed it can be rectify, provided this kind of preaching is intensify, though might take longer time but definitely possible. Tassawuf is NOT for tom and harry. It just an elementary school leavers going directly to MSc...Lol |
Re: ...... by Empiree: 5:20pm On Dec 14, 2019 |
LadunaI:LOL... i was there less than a week. I hope they revive it tasawwuf. Muslims in nigeria especially yorubaland dont make use of many opportunities that Allah opened for them in islam especially job and dawah opportunities. It is sasd and this is due to sectarian differences. Mawlid is one big opportunity but they don't make use of it. 2 Likes |
Re: ...... by LadunaI(m): 5:37pm On Dec 14, 2019 |
Empiree: That's more than enough to meet with NL delegations atleast for a day lol... Even check on on your second home-Ilorin, and see how it looks like now. I guess you run go back seen how 'disorganized' Nigeria was...lol It well, we shall definitely meet one day insha Allah here or there. But you no do well, after 20yrs, you for plan like a month visit now before heading back again. Perhaps other commitment might not permit it especially job. The attack from Puritans on legitimacy of maolud is enough distraction, and couple with ignorance of many murid to taking advantage of such occasions and benefiting from it. For how many days do you recite that Surat yasin 313. The one I posted above. |
Re: ...... by Empiree: 12:23am On Dec 15, 2019 |
LadunaI:I actually planned a week visit just to see how things look like, especially your roads. It was not wise to make long trip to ilorin since i dont know how things look like now especially with sad news we have heard many times about nigerian roads. I actually have someone to visit in ilorin as well but i didnt tell him i was going to nija since i didnt know how things are currently. Plus i wish to visit my old hoods (Adeta and Gari Alimi). I heard that all the babas i left there have gone back to their Lord. It well, we shall definitely meet one day insha Allah here or there. But you no do well, after 20yrs, you for plan like a month visit now before heading back again. Perhaps other commitment might not permit it especially job.Job doesn't allow me to stay longer than this. Although if i want to spend a month it is up to me. The attack from Puritans on legitimacy of maolud is enough distraction, and couple with ignorance of many murid to taking advantage of such occasions and benefiting from it.I was just thinking crazy about arguments back and forth. Makes no sense. I was thinking a lot about ways to utilize mawlid holiday. There is a lot muslims can do with the holiday. It is also a means of Dawah. I mapped out my opinion about it few weeks ago to someone offline but i dont understand how nigerian muslims think. Ulama in nigeria (at least Yoruba) should use famous open field in Lagos like Tinubu sq, Lekki, Tafawa Balewa sq , Ikoyi etc and organize a very big space for series of programs. Mallam Yusuf Adepoju, Ustaz Agbeti, Ustaz Jamiu Adegunwa and all the comparative should spend an hr or more to give lecture televised on live big screen. Alongside them Alfa oni figh and sharia give short lectures on this aspect that address muslims. Alongside, there should be learned men of tasawwuf or islamic spirituality also give lectures for like 30 mins. Also have stage play islamically. Pick short story from islamic history and trained some muslims like we did back in the 90s. We staged play about the conversion story of S. Umar(ra). I acted alfa for Saheed and Fatima(Umar's daughter). They should also have sensible islamic singers also for few minutes. Then sound alfa who know seerat ul nabi to narrate some story about the prophet and many other activities. This is far better than arguments over validity of Mawlid every year. This makes no sense. If they do this they will attract big donors from muslims and non muslims, and money generated from mawlid goes to charity account or foundation for muslims to alleviate poverty not to be pocketed by some people. So muslims don't have to beg non muslims for food or pastors taking advantage of them. But it seems current generation of muslims in yorubaland are mentally deficient(astagfirullah). Islam does not in any shape or form condemns anything to promote islam even if such means were not done by Nabi, Sahaba, tab'in, tab'in ta'in etc. Islam is very flexible in this area. There is no room for rigidity. If christians have opportunity to have christian holidays 3 times a week they would take it and make good use of it. But muslims are very sick. We have hadith that support this gathering bcuz this gathering is for Allah and his message. This is exactly what Mawlid is about. This is one sunnah Abu Saeed Khudri (RA) narrates that Muawiyah (RA) came to a group of people in the mosque and said, “… The Messenger of Allah (صلی اللہ علیہ وآلہ وسلم) came to a group of his Companions in the mosque and said, ‘Why are you sitting?’ They said, ‘We are sitting remembering Allah and paying our thanks to Him for His favour of guiding us to Islam.’ The Holy Prophet (SAW) said, ‘Do you say that on oath that is what has made you sit here?’ They submitted, ‘By Allah we are sitting here only for this purpose.’ The Holy Prophet (SAW) said, ‘I have not made you take oath for any doubt but the truth is that Gabriel came and told me that Allah is expressing His pride on you in front of angels.’” References ►Muslim, as-Sahih (4:2075#2701) ►Tirmidhi, as-Sunan (5:460#3379) ►Nasai, as-Sunan (8:249#5426) ►Ahmad bin Hambal, al-Musnad (4:92) ►Ibn Hibban, as-Sahih (3:95#813) ►Ibn Abi Shaybah, al-Musannaf (6:59#29469) ►Tabarani, al-Mujam-ul-kabir (19:311#701) ►Mindhiri, at-Targhib wat-tarhib (2:259#2317) As for Yasin 313, if i really get serious and devoted it is 2 days. But i dont rush since there is nothing to rush about. So normal time frame is 3. 2 Likes |
Re: ...... by Razram: 6:07am On Dec 15, 2019 |
Empiree: This is very thoughtful of urs sir, ive always think of something like this though im working on some things to benefit my muslim community coz i live in a passive muslim dominated community where chriatians are seen to look like majority but to be candid muslims in nigeria are very stingy coupled with corrupted islamic NGOs around. Who if visited for assistance will give so many excuses that one will even be pissed of to go there again It got to a stage i decided to never go to any ialamic NGOs again for support rather im working for self finance to finance all my islamic project. Wallahi muslims are lagging behind and they fail to see the front in yoruba land coupled with lack of history in the youth brain. If people like u can come up with good things with finance backup, i think yoruba muslims with vision will support u sir. Ive read a lot about tassawuf and many needs more enlightement on it coz thats d only way we can bring muslims to light in yoruba land. 2 Likes |
Re: ...... by LadunaI(m): 6:42am On Dec 15, 2019 |
@empiree Good suggestions you've provided up there, I pray we get there one day. And I think the day we put aside much of differences and argue less about less important things we will bring more development within ummah, but sectarian differences has wrecked havoc. Kalimat Sahadda should be the yard stick...once you declare that, you're my brother and sister in deen and then work together for common good of the Ummah. Thanks for that beautiful hadith and those references. #2. The only noticeable thing you will see in your old hood Gari Alimi after many yrs is, Geri Alimi - Under Pass road built by immediate pass administration, and that's only major project he did for the whole of eight yrs...lol May Allah help us in Nigeria, we have along way to go in all ramification. #3. OK understood @ Yasin....I might gift it a shot one of these days insha Allah. Thanks 1 Like |
Re: ...... by aumeehn: 9:47am On Dec 15, 2019 |
@empiree You are really trying! Even though it's my dream to go and live abroad, I can't be away for a very long time like you did! 20years!! Wow! Here in the North Mallams do preach in community mosque at any given time and Fridays is entirely meant for Leactures! The reason I don't like All this Maulid celebration is the way Men and Women, Married women will be out there jumping and shouting The Prophets (S.A.W) name like they are in a political campaign or Party! Loud Speakers and even DJ's and with the little knowledge I have Islamic songs are not haram but mixing it with different sounds is what makes it haram! I use to listen to some Islamic songs on AFRICA TV3 Channel, no beats no DJ's just 100% voice. And Also this Wazifa of a thingere people will sit round a white piece of cloth! Yoruba mosques do it aot here |
Re: ...... by aumeehn: 10:05am On Dec 15, 2019 |
Gaskia! I don't subscribe to all these Maulid celebration and Wazeefa! To me its noise pollution I don't like it one bit! And I think that's the reason our people here don't pray in Yoruba mosques! Everyday they have new program and the problem is, Men and Women mix in the same place. And I think it's more of our culture that even in mosques women should be at the back or even enter their chambers! Our central mosque here have Women Chambers. You hardly notice women in the mosque! Empiree please what is Sunday As salatu! I was going through the thread yesterday I came accross your post where you said sheik Jami'u attain a certain level in his spiritual Journey, (majnoon), and Majnoon In Arabic means Insanity. I don't know what you mean sha! Please shade more light! |
Re: ...... by Empiree: 1:32pm On Dec 15, 2019 |
aumeehn:about mawlid, the reason it looks like that too you is because Africans or black people generally are not organized. Mawlid is not done in Africa only. It is worldwide thing. They do mawlid here too and well organized. Africans are sick wounded people. Mental colonization is still affecting Africa. If africans can't get politics right, if they can't govern themselves, what do you expect on mawlid?. Did you see mawlid in Russia?. See how organized they are. As for Sunday as-salatu, it is absolutely "shariatic". Whether some people like it or not yes a matter of choice. Asalatu is prayer and learning center and they fix it on Sundays. As-salatu is derived from solat ala nabi or salawat. Problem I gave with mawlid, as-salatu and other extra Islam activities are excesses by some lunatics. Otherwise these activities are Islamic. 1 Like |
Re: ...... by aumeehn: 4:22pm On Dec 15, 2019 |
Empiree I understand you 100%! Do you listen to Sheik Ja'far Mahmud Adam?? |
Re: ...... by aumeehn: 4:28pm On Dec 15, 2019 |
@Ladunal you totally forgot your boy! I guess you couldn't retrieve the phone. |
Re: ...... by Empiree: 6:34pm On Dec 15, 2019 |
aumeehn:I am not Hausa now. I once watched him and realized his lecture was in Hausa. So that put me off since then and his counterpart that was also assassinated along with his children. I forgot his name. |
Re: ...... by LadunaI(m): 6:58am On Dec 17, 2019 |
aumeehn:Haba!...I wouldn't have. I didn't forget only that I was unable to retrieve them from the other phone I told you. It was quite unfortunate that I mistakenly deleted those screenshots. Did you reach out to those people I told you? Perhaps they might haveit on their phone. And I hope you wouldn't forget to send those yours too. |
Re: ...... by LadunaI(m): 7:09am On Dec 17, 2019 |
Empiree:Which Sheikh is that? I mean assassinated. Is it not the one based in Kano. Aumeehn do you know sheikh bn Uthman? |
Re: ...... by aumeehn: 8:30am On Dec 17, 2019 |
LadunaI:No i didn't reach out them. No qualms sha! Insha Allah i will find time and scan the docs and send to you. Are you familiar with Jhaora?? 1 Like |
Re: ...... by aumeehn: 8:33am On Dec 17, 2019 |
LadunaI:Yes but i dont listen to his lectures alot. We are talking about Sheik Ja'afar Mahmud Adam who was assassinated around '09. |
Re: ...... by aumeehn: 8:36am On Dec 17, 2019 |
Empiree:Yes he is a Hausa man from Daura! It totally skipped my mind that you are Yoruba. |
Re: ...... by Razram: 9:55am On Dec 17, 2019 |
Please oo brothers whatever u are sharing and will be of benefit to me too please share me too oo ( in yoruba accent i speak oo)� |
Re: ...... by Empiree: 3:46pm On Dec 17, 2019 |
LadunaI:his name really went off my head. I have been struggling to remember. I used to mention his name back in 2014. He was killed before or after given lecture on his way home along with his wife and children by BH. Allegation first emerged that Sufis killed him as presented by Sheikh Isa Akindele(this was just sectarian trash that was not substantiated). The hausa man was Salafi and was said to know so many ahadith. I just can't remember his name anymore but if I see his picture I know him. As for Sheik Ja'far Mahmud Adam he was shot while praying salat. |
Re: ...... by LadunaI(m): 3:56pm On Dec 17, 2019 |
aumeehn:OK....thank I will be expecting it. You Jhsora Kamal? Give us details about it |
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