KanuSE:
What's wrong with being gay?

Bring your ear let me tell you was wrong �

xpool:

Your comments are insipid.
You did not pass any information, I know you are beating your chest now thinking you made logical progress. But you were just rabble rousing.

Picking out scanty reasons to prove what?
Murder and stealing are as old as man, does it make them right?
Many people are pedophiles, does it make it right?
Some seem to be born kleptomaniacs, should we encourage them to continue stealing?

Homosexuality is abnormal, and in many cases social maladaptive behavioural expression.

May all your children be gays, may all your children marry same sex, amen

The examples you cite - murder, theft, pedophilia - involve cases where the perpetrator is acting without the consent of a victim (a child is unable to consent in the case of pedophilia). This is why it makes logical sense to condemn murder or theft.

In the case of gay people, Africans are claiming that what consenting adults do with one another is wrong because its "abnormal." But within straight relationships, lots of couples engage in abnormal things. The question is what is the logic in being outraged about consented behavior that doesn't affect others?

This thing about "promoting" homosexuality makes no sense to me since if you are straight, no one is going to convert you to a homosexual and the overwhelming majority of people will remain straight no matter the society (see western countries with a permissive outlook to homosexuals where heterosexuals remain the overwhelming majority). I suspect a lot of people who pursue this line of argument about westerners turning Africans gay harbour some homosexual inclinations themselves.

oloriLFC:
Okay. In as much as I do not like same sex relationships and do not make a case for gays, it is true that African leaders are hypocrites and do not always tackle issues that will promote the welfare of the populace. We try to prove to the world that we are 'pure', that our beliefs forbid certain things, yet, we are wicked! We chase shadows. And as the US man rightly said we look away when a public office holder spends money lavishly without being tried but go after people who decided what to do with their own bodies. Some of these so called leaders are homosexuals themselves. 'Leave us to languish in our poverty' yen yen yen, as if he or any member of his immediate family is poor. Foolish, wicked people!

That's the bane of Africa, religion. Religion is our number one priority. We are more Catholic than the Pope, more Islam than the imam of mecca and more Jewish than Abraham.

We are more concerned what two consenting adults do in the privacy of their homes than old dirty men marrying 13 year old girls as 4th wife.
We are more appalled by other people's sexual choices than the raping of our collective wealth by a few elite.

We are more obsessed with imposing our moral, religious and personal values on others, than actually living our lives by those values.

Africa will remain the dark continent for a very long time.

Neurotika:
You want a foreign diplomat of a powerful country out of your midst cos of your homophobic inclinations. Inclinations that has no proven correlation with economic development. Interesting...

So because of their "homophobic inclinations" and because US is a powerful country, Zambia doesn't have d right to ask a foreign diplomat to leave?

oloriLFC:
Okay. In as much as I do not like same sex relationships and do not make a case for gays, it is true that African leaders are hypocrites and do not always tackle issues that will promote the welfare of the populace. We try to prove to the world that we are 'pure', that our beliefs forbid certain things, yet, we are wicked! We chase shadows. And as the US man rightly said we look away when a public office holder spends money lavishly without being tried but go after people who decided what to do with their own bodies. Some of these so called leaders are homosexuals themselves. 'Leave us to languish in our poverty' yen yen yen, as if he or any member of his immediate family is poor. Foolish, wicked people!

What makes u think d US isn't a worse hypocrite than African nations?

planetx:
They are pushing homosexuality on Africa because their own population is crashing into oblivion while Africa has the fastest growing and youngest population in the world. Why do you think Canada is importing millions of black and brown people from all over the world because their women cannot have children again and no young people to work and pay tax to take care of their aging population. Homosexuality and feminism is the two weapons they are trying to use in slowing down Africa's population growth after the HIV virus failed miserably.

I just hope for real that you're not this dull..

4Play:


The examples you cite - murder, theft, pedophilia - involve cases where the perpetrator is acting without the consent of a victim (a child is unable to consent in the case of pedophilia). This is why it makes logical sense to condemn murder or theft.

In the case of gay people, Africans are claiming that what consenting adults do with one another is wrong because its "abnormal." But within straight relationships, lots of couples engage in abnormal things. The question is what is the logic in being outraged about consented behavior that doesn't affect others?

This thing about "promoting" homosexuality makes no sense to me since if you are straight, no one is going to convert you to a homosexual and the overwhelming majority of people will remain straight no matter the society (see western countries with a permissive outlook to homosexuals where heterosexuals remain the overwhelming majority). I suspect a lot of people who pursue this line of argument about westerners turning Africans gay harbour some homosexual inclinations themselves.

Are u aware that polygamy is a criminal offence in d US and other western countries? What rights do gays have that polygamist don't have based on ur argument?

wirinet:

That's the bane of Africa, religion. Religion is our number one priority. We are more Catholic than the Pope, more Islam than the imam of mecca and more Jewish than Abraham.

We are more concerned what two consenting adults do in the privacy of their homes than old dirty men marrying 13 year old girls as 4th wife.
We are more appalled by other people's sexual choices than the raping of our collective wealth by a few elite.

We are more obsessed with imposing our moral, religious and personal values on others, than actually living our lives by those values.

Africa wi remain the dark continent for a very long time.

But in d US, polygamy is a criminal offence. I thought d US gives everyone d freedom to do whatever they want?

gypsey:
It's Ridiculously Ignorant.


The US can also ban Zambians Officials from entering the US, let's see which country would loose out, and I don't think it would be the US.

So because of d fear of ban, Zambia can't take a decision it feels its in its best interest? Is Zambia d first country in d world to expel a US ambassador?

This man had better be careful before they unleash the CIA on him and his plane suddenly drops out of the sky.

Minjim:


Don't mind foolish African leaders and AFRICANS
Our level of hypocrisy is nauseating.
The West that condoles gay practices, their leaders are far reliable, responsible and transparent than ours.
Africans swim the Atlantic, while some die there, just to live in a gay country.
We better start worrying about the more pressing issues and leave perverts to kill themselves

But d US doesn't spare polygamist. Y should Africa spare gays?

themanderon:
This man had better be careful before they unleash the CIA on him and his plane suddenly drops out of the sky.

Story story

KanuSE:


It's not our business what two consenting adults choose to do with their bodies.

Last time I checked, one of the tenets of fundamental human rights is 'Individual liberty'...

Aren't u aware that polygamy is a crime in d US? Or are u saying it doesn't involve consenting adults? What happened to d "tenets of fundamental human rights and individual liberty" with regards to polygamy in d US?

Neurotika:
You want a foreign diplomat of a powerful country out of your midst cos of your homophobic inclinations. Inclinations that has no proven correlation with economic development. Interesting...

go there and they will behead you, gay is evil, God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah because of this singular act. If you don't change your ways, you are in for doom

lexy2014:


Story story

This is not story story it seems you need to Google the antics of the American government if they don't like your government and they have special interests in your country.
They can make a whole President vanish into thin air.

themanderon:


This is not story story it seems you need to Google the antics of the American government if they don't like your government and they have special interests in it.
They can make a whole President vanish into thin air.

Pls name d countries in d world were d US have made their presidents "vanish into thin air" because of gay issue or any other issue? Y have d North Korean and Iranian leaders not "vanished into thin air" all these years?

lexy2014:


But in d US, polygamy is a criminal offence. I thought d US gives everyone d freedom to do whatever they want?

Yes in theory it is, but polygamy is practiced in the US especially in fringe Christian communities. It's legal as long as you don't obtain multiple marriage licenses.

Sister Wives' Defeat Polygamy Law in Federal Court
A federal judge ruled late Friday that a key section of Utah law criminalizing polygamy is unconstitutional, granting multi-spouse families the right to live together without facing arrest, so long as they do not acquire multiple marriage licenses.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.usnews.com/news/articles/2013/12/16/sister-wives-defeat-polygamy-law-in-federal-court%3fcontext=amp

wirinet:

Yes in theory it is, but polygamy is practiced in the US especially in fringe Christian communities. It's legal as long as you don't obtain multiple marriage licenses.

Not in theory. It is d law. That is y ur story says a woman went to court to enforce her rights. If it was just in theory, there will b no need 4 her to go to court. Even ur caveat about not obtaining multiple marriage licences, still corroborates d fact that d practice of polygamy doesn't have govt backing because how do u obtain one license when u are marrying more than one person? Are u going to marry them at d same time?

Every society has its laws. Africa has its own so does d US. Don't 4 once think that in d US and other western countries u have d right to do almost anything u want& in Africa u can't

hope4nigeria:
go there and they will behead you, gay is evil, God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah because of this singular act. If you don't change your ways, you are in for doom

And the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah stopped gayism in the world or even the area? Why does your God engage in futile and senseless actions?

Gay is evil to your own personal religious dogma and doctrine. It may be part of another person's religious practice. Are you advocating for restrictions and punish of other people's religion believes because it is different from your own.

lexy2014:


Not in theory. It is d law. That is y ur story says a woman went to court to enforce her rights. If it was just in theory, there will b no need 4 her to go to court. Even ur caveat about not obtaining multiple marriage licences, still corroborates d fact that d practice of polygamy doesn't have govt backing because how do u obtain one license when u are marrying more than one person? Are u going to marry them at d same time?

The woman enforced her rights that she has the right to marry a man with other wives.

It's a theory, it is applies to obtaining licences (government recognition). A man can marry a wife ie, get the parents consent, the church (or religious body's) consent, put Mrs behind her name, cohabitate with the man and bare children, without obtaining a government marriage licence. This is the same thing that happens in Nigeria here. The man usually only officially marry the first wife, other marriages are done through traditional weddings and customs.

If na China or Russia , Us for no get mind criticize

wirinet:

The woman enforced her rights that she has the right to marry a man with other wives.

It's a theory, it is applies to obtaining licences (government recognition). A man can marry a wife ie, get the parents consent, the church (or religious body's) consent, put Mrs behind her name, cohabitate with the man and bare children, without obtaining a government marriage licence. This is the same thing that happens in Nigeria here. The man usually only officially marry the first wife, other marriages are done through traditional weddings and customs.

Oga its not a theory. Which law is a theory?
Look at an excerpt from your own post:

"a key section of Utah law criminalizing polygamy".

U said d woman went to enforce her right. Y did she go to court if it was a theory?

Seetto:

What has Saudi Arabia got to do with Zambia doing what is right, must you guys always sweat over muslims existence, support Zambia and keep Saudi out of your f**lishness, Muslims has always maintain uprightness and decency.

He wasn't trying to criticize muslims, the point was that because Saudi Arabia is a business partner they don't criticise their wrong doings even after they killed that journalist and it was proven, what did America do?

lexy2014:


Oga its not a theory. Look at an excerpt from your own post:

"a key section of Utah law criminalizing polygamy".

U said d woman went to enforce her right. Y did she go to court if it was a theory? Which law is a theory?

It depends on your definition of polygamy. Does polygamy only means having multiple marriage licenses, or means having multiple eives/partners, but without obtaining multiple marriage licenses?

wirinet:

And the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah stopped gayism in the world or even the area? Why does your God engage in futile and senseless actions?

Gay is evil to your own personal religious dogma and doctrine. It may be part of another person's religious practice. Are you advocating for restrictions and punish of other people's religion believes because it is different from your own.

dont ever address God that way again. If you do!

Is not ironic that the reason why most of us especially Christian hate homosexual is because it was condem in the Bible. The Bible the same people brought to us.
I will like to know if homosexuality was considered a sin against the gods in present day Nigeria before the white people came

Neurotika:
You want a foreign diplomat of a powerful country out of your midst cos of your homophobic inclinations. Inclinations that has no proven correlation with economic development. Interesting...

Anyone with a catapult there? You head needs a very good stone from a catapult.

I've never been able to understand the instinctive fear and revulsion unfailingly expressed by the average African in the face of same-sex relationships

Whether we like it or not, our laws will eventually be amended to accommodate the LGBT community because they are always going to be among us. We have to learn how to coexist with them, the same way as we live with other individuals in our midst whose genetic aberrations are expressed in more overt (physical) forms.

No human being is perfect, after all is said and considered.

hope4nigeria:
dont ever address God that way again. If you do!

You religious fundamentalists make me laugh. I see no difference between muslims and Christian fundamentalists, they attempt to use threats and force to impose their doctrines on unbelievabers.
I hope you are ready to stone gays and adulterers - both male and female.

Neurotika:
You want a foreign diplomat of a powerful country out of your midst cos of your homophobic inclinations. Inclinations that has no proven correlation with economic development. Interesting...

it's not all about economic development. that's just one out of so many other areas

GidiWoodsMan:
I've never been able to understand the instinctive fear and revulsion unfailingly expressed by the average African in the face of same-sex relationships

Whether we like it or not, our laws will eventually be amended to accommodate the LGBT community because they are always going to be among us. We have to learn how to coexist with them, the same way as we live with other individuals in our midst whose genetic aberrations are expressed in more overt (physical) forms.

No human being is perfect, after all is said and considered.

No mind them. It's is their inability to fathom that other people can be radically different from them. African feels insecure and frightened to see people who don't conform to their beliefs and moral preferences.

As much I hate homosexuality, I have nothing against homosexuals, as long as they don't impose themselves on me and my children.

bindukwe:

You should only criticise it when you're not representing it?

Exactly.