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dmz1:
Oga pistotita, how may I get the Beit Alpha cucumber seed. I am near Enugu

I do not think it is readily available now. I was trying to see how to make many people go into it, but the price does not allow local farmers try it. Fruits can be sold in some parts of Abuja and on Lagos island. You can import it if you want to. I have about 5kg worth, but strictly for 6 months business venture of mine. I would have shared, but not possible at this time.

Pistotita:
I do not think it is readily available now. I was trying to see how to make many people go into it, but the price does not allow local farmers try it. Fruits can be sold in some parts of Abuja and on Lagos island. You can import it if you want to. I have about 5kg worth, but strictly for 6 months business venture of mine. I would have shared, but not possible at this time.

[quote][/quote]ok my problem is that some of the cukes of the 999 variety I planted is bitter. I need a variety to plant this dry season that will not be bitter [quote]

dmz1:
ok my problem is that some of the cukes of the 999 variety I planted is bitter. I need a variety to plant this dry season that will not be bitter

No matter how stressed modern cultivars are, they do not get any bitter taste. It is one of the main disadvantage of Cu999. I am sure you cultivated it during dry season and not rainy. Well, you are going for another round which is giing to be during dry season, how are you well prepared to face drought? If Cu999 is hot cake where you are, just find a way to get irrigation on your farm. And irrigate your plants twice a day as soon as flowers start coming out till the last week of production. Oga, go an buy drip irrigation if you do not want to stress yourself. Carrying hose about on the field is not worth it. Anyone using only hose to irrigate is not a serious farmer. Such is playing with poverty.

It is not the cultivar that is your problem, but you need to improve on your management skill.

However, if you are desperate to change, go for any dark green hybrid as long as the demand is high where you plan to sell your cucumber fruits.

Pistotita:
No matter how stressed modern cultivars are, they do not get any bitter taste. It is one of the main disadvantage of Cu999. I am sure you cultivated it during dry season and not rainy. Well, you are going for another round which is giing to be during dry season, how are you well prepared to face drought? If Cu999 is hot cake where you are, just find a way to get irrigation on your farm. And irrigate your plants twice a day as soon as flowers start coming out till the last week of production. Oga, go an buy drip irrigation if you do not want to stress yourself. Carrying hose about on the field is not worth it. Anyone using only hose to irrigate is not a serious farmer. Such is playing with poverty.

It is not the cultivar that is your problem, but you need to improve on your management skill.

However, if you are desperate to change, go for any dark green hybrid as long as the demand is high where you plan to sell your cucumber fruits.

[quote][/quote]thanks for the advice sir

Fighting Chronic Diseases

I am going to discontinue discussing vegetable farming for profit. My interest has shifted to eating healthily, fighting infections, and winning chronic diseases.

In those days, we used to think berries are the best antioxidants fresh food in the market, but recent studies have shown that there are about 35 fresh fruits which have higher antioxidant properties than berries. Even parsley and lettuce are better than berries. Lol.

I want to focus on growing the top 10 of the best fresh food for winning the battle against chronic diseases in which cancer is the number 1 enemy. And I intend to share with you organic production inside our houses.

I am so interested in organic meat production also. And as a matter of fact, I am looking beyong Nigeria. I have been working on it for some months, and by God's grace, things are becoming a reality very soon.

Unfortunately, I will not be regular on NL again. I have a tight schedule in front of me.

I pray that everyone hustling legitmately will be prosperous in the coming 2020.

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Im looking for a hydroponics expert for a farm project in Okene that can manage a fully automated system.

You should be familiar with NMC computer and mixing ratios for tomatoes and pepper

AerialMapper:
Im looking for a hydroponics expert for a farm project in Okene that can manage a fully automated system.

You should be familiar with NMC computer and mixing ratios for tomatoes and pepper

Saw your pm some minutes ago which you sent me like 2 weeks ago. I was not around. But i replied the pm and it bounced back. The email you used to open NL has been deactivated I suppose. So, I advise you to change your email....and send me pm again. I will not touch the subject here.

NMC is an operating system. There is no big deal in it. I have developed numerous systems myself with and without operating system. You may want to opt for semi automation. And really, you nay need to remove your mind from tomato except you have a market for N600 to N1,000 per kg. Pepper is still ok. And there are other good crops.

Why set up in Okene? Is there any catch there? Lagos, Abuja, Borny Island are places one should look into in my opinion.

I will be online today (Xmas hol), but getting on serious work again from tomorrow.....till new year (second week or so). And i will not be discussing much here.

I can give you tips, but remove your mind from thinking you can can employ me. I have some good guys, but they might not want to stay in Okene.

I hope you know what you want to embark on is not cheap. Not too expensive for any serious farmer, but it is using Nairaland farmers' standard.

Pls send me pm today using a working email; else, you may not reach me easily again.

Blessings!

Pistotita:
Saw your pm some minutes ago which you sent me like 2 weeks ago. I was not around. But i replied the pm and it bounced back. The email you used to open NL has been deactivated I suppose. So, I advise you to change your email....and send me pm again. I will not touch the subject here.

NMC is an operating system. There is no big deal in it. I have developed numerous systems myself with and without operating system. You may want to opt for semi automation. And really, you nay need to remove your mind from tomato except you have a market for N600 to N1,000 per kg. Pepper is still ok. And there are other good crops.

Why set up in Okene? Is there any catch there? Lagos, Abuja, Borny Island are places one should look into in my opinion.

I will be online today (Xmas hol), but getting on serious work again from tomorrow.....till new year (second week or so). And i will not be discussing much here.

I can give you tips, but remove your mind from thinking you can can employ me. I have some good guys, but they might not want to stay in Okene.

I hope you know what you want to embark on is not cheap. Not too expensive for any serious farmer, but it is using Nairaland farmers' standard.

Pls send me pm today using a working email; else, you may not reach me easily again.

Blessings!

Just give me an email address please

Pistotita:
Saw your pm some minutes ago which you sent me like 2 weeks ago. I was not around. But i replied the pm and it bounced back. The email you used to open NL has been deactivated I suppose. So, I advise you to change your email....and send me pm again. I will not touch the subject here.

NMC is an operating system. There is no big deal in it. I have developed numerous systems myself with and without operating system. You may want to opt for semi automation. And really, you nay need to remove your mind from tomato except you have a market for N600 to N1,000 per kg. Pepper is still ok. And there are other good crops.

Why set up in Okene? Is there any catch there? Lagos, Abuja, Borny Island are places one should look into in my opinion.

I will be online today (Xmas hol), but getting on serious work again from tomorrow.....till new year (second week or so). And i will not be discussing much here.

I can give you tips, but remove your mind from thinking you can can employ me. I have some good guys, but they might not want to stay in Okene.

I hope you know what you want to embark on is not cheap. Not too expensive for any serious farmer, but it is using Nairaland farmers' standard.

Pls send me pm today using a working email; else, you may not reach me easily again.

Blessings!

Changed email and sent you PM. Awaiting your response. Why Okene? Unfortunately or fortunately, this was the location of the equity contribution of one of the partners. Capital is not a problem, we have invested not less than €5m in this venture so there is no going back now.
We are growing beef tomatoes and cherry tomatoes, I have advised that we may not break even but perhaps some advise from an expert will help convince management.

AerialMapper:
Changed email and sent you PM. Awaiting your response. Why Okene? Unfortunately or fortunately, this was the location of the equity contribution of one of the partners. Capital is not a problem, we have invested not less than €5m in this venture so there is no going back now.
We are growing beef tomatoes and cherry tomatoes, I have advised that we may not break even but perhaps some advise from an expert will help convince management.

You keep using emails that are strange. Seriously, I do not take activities like this lightly. What is hard in using a working email with your nairaland account? I dont have time for this kind of activities. Drop your email here, i will send you a message. But if i send message to that email and it bounces back, i am done.

5 million Euros (over 2 billion naira) on hydroponic in Okene and I have not heard of such? Hmmmm! You will really need to convince me with evidences before I take a look into it. Seriously...you need to.

All tomatoes are good - beefstake, pasta/plum, cherry, grapes, etc. Marketing is the issue. With this kind of investment, you should think of expanding horizontally. Spread your products beyond raw tomatoes.

Pistotita:
You keep using emails that are strange. Seriously, I do not take activities like this lightly. What is hard in using a working email with your nairaland account? I dont have time for this kind of activities. Drop your email here, i will send you a message. But if i send message to that email and it bounces back, i am done.

5 million Euros (over 2 billion naira) on hydroponic in Okene and I have not heard of such? Hmmmm! You will really need to convince me with evidences before I take a look into it. Seriously...you need to.

All tomatoes are good - beefstake, pasta/plum, cherry, grapes, etc. Marketing is the issue. With this kind of investment, you should think of expanding horizontally. Spread your products beyond raw tomatoes.

Please send an email to admin@empexxxx I will respond to the email with my personal email and exchange personal details. I will be monitoring this inbox and expecting your email.

2bn is the total investment so far on the project . The hydroponics cost $350k. The system was imported from Profit-Agro, an Israeli company. Run a search of emperor farms on naira land and you will see an ad we posted for vacancies. I await your response

I seriously think a billion naira hydroponics farm merits a thread on itself for farmers to watch and learn,many will like to start small but will lack the technical know how,it will be refreshing for farmers to follow the beginning of a multi billion naira farm

AerialMapper:
Please send an email to admin@emperorfarms.com. I will respond to the email with my personal email and exchange personal details. I will be monitoring this inbox and expecting your email.

2bn is the total investment so far on the project . The hydroponics cost $350k. The system was imported from Profit-Agro, an Israeli company. Run a search of emperor farms on naira land and you will see an ad we posted for vacancies. I await your response

What the heck am I reading? Damn! Who the heck is the planner? Seriously scared to even get myself involved. $350k hydroponics and other costs run to 5.55 million dollars (2 billion naira ) and you expect the business to be profitable? What the crap am I reading? And the Isreali company says you can recover your money? What the heck am I reading. I will be really careful to get myself involved. Seriously, I decline. What? What magic do you want me to do?

If you need my suggestions.....what I can do is an audit of your farm. To just let you have the honest opinion of what you make from it. Even the hydroponics, I am not sure the style is installed. What the heck? USD350k hydroponics to make USD5.5million. I think the owner made his money from a strange business. If not, he will probe it well before starting. Are your kidding me? Seriously, he needs to be audited too. What the heck? And I am sure the hydropnoics purchased at $350k will actually be around less than $10k value.

This is the problem I always have with these businesses. I am not getting involved in what I have clearly seen as fraud. No way. Except you accept my anonymous contribution at the initial stage, and I see how the management acts to my recommendations. And if you are ready to pay for my service; otherwise, i will stay far away. I will not use my own two legs to walk into the den of lions. What the heck? Seriously, your life is at risk too...even you are the owner and you write to cover up here. Really, you need to fire everyone from top to bottom if you will make anything meaningful. What the heck? Jesus! Else, you can never be sucessful. Never! You can never make USD5.5million easily with about USD10K (I have strong conviction that the real value of the hydroponics can never be $350k). I am not Jesus who turned water into wine to feed many, and multiplied bread and fish to feed thousands.

Number 2 challenge: I speak with decision makers. This is my policy. My believe is simple: if the owners are not convinced they are in deep trouble, why shoukd I try to convince them? Of course, they need to accept they need serious help first. In fact, I am going to tell you to resign your appoontment with that compnay if you are taking a lead role. And if you are the one who asked them to go into it, it is your me.s.s. You created a big problem for yourself if you are the one who advised the owners. But what are the owners thinking of? Of course it is not a marijuana farm? Holy Jesus! In Africa? In Nigeria? In Okene?

I have been approached by up to 50 of these kind of people to set up a farms for them. And as soon as my spirit man tells me to walk away I do not even hesitate. I will not allow the peanut in it to lock me with devils. Never! A Nigeria where 25-something billion is budgeted for all road construction contracts in Nigeria, while 30-something is the budget for renovation of a building law makers use. Ma.d people. Ha! Nigeria is seriously sinking. No one who is in sane will want to stay in such environment. It is why our people are running out. The one that pisses me off these days is african americans thinking they are better version of black. Lol. That one cracks me so much. As soon as you meet an african american with master degree and above, they turn to gods. Lol. They are bossy and become a big hindrance to themselves. I am not talking about a particular person, but this is what is generally known and any African man especially in the US can attestate to it.

Back to the subject. And you will want to make profit. Lol. That is to say, your bosses will expect to make like USD10million annual sales because they have benn tricked into high greenhouse profit. This is like 3.6 billion naira. Hahahahahaha. Ask yourself, do you have cherry and beefstake market as huge as this? Ha! You are on your own if you are the decision maker. If you are not, you better start looking for job else where since I know the business is going down soon except the owners are Pablo Escobars. What the heck? Spend such amount in Okene on greenhouses? For what?

The amount of logistics itself from Lagos sea port to Okene will be more than N50 million naira with what I hsce seen so read so far. I will not hesistate to take good profit for my service. Believe me, I am not walking into the den of lions. If you agree that I do an audit, and you pay me and I walk away...I will write you. Other wise, my bro....no point in talking since I know I wikk neber step my feet there.

1. I will give you the honest sales projection based on the market you have for cherry and beefstake.

2. I will let you know the number of months you can make it.

3.I will make recommendations of varieties for your market (will run through the ones you are using now).

4. If you are the boss, your first assignment is to recover the amount spent, and I do not think you can ever be able ro do that with the greenhouse. Though, I have not seen what is on ground, but I can tell from the little you have said so far.

5. If your bosses (the owners) are not Escobars, they will not cough out more; thetefore, you need to find a way to convince them that you use part of sales to quickly produce more veggie. Even it is mile 12 products. Just to get them their cash. I have done this for many people who found themselves i same case with you.

6. I will give cheaper options. Honestly, you do not need what the Israeli supplied you to survive in a damaged economy like Nigeria. Do not get me wrong, this is where real money is. The only reason I can stay awat from Nigeria is to acquire more knowledge, and not to make money.

This is why consultants are after me. And I do not play into their hands too. Oga, you pay me nicely. But if it is for me to recommend someone who will do the impossibility for you, I cannot. Not until after the management follows A to Z of my recimmendation will I meet anyone.

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Pistotita:
What the heck am I reading? Damn! Who the heck is the planner? Seriously scared to even get myself involved. $350k hydroponics and other costs run to 5.55 million dollars (2 billion naira ) and you expect the business to be profitable? What the crap am I reading? And the Isreali company says you can recover your money? What the heck am I reading. I will be really careful to get myself involved. Seriously, I decline. What? What magic do you want me to do?

If you need my suggestions.....what I can do is an audit of your farm. To just let you have the honest opinion of what you make from it. Even the hydroponics, I am not sure the style is installed. What the heck? USD350k hydroponics to make USD5.5million. I think the owner made his money from a strange business. If not, he will probe it well before starting. Are your kidding me? Seriously, he needs to be audited too. What the heck? And I am sure the hydropnoics purchased at $350k will actually be around less than $10k value.

This is the problem I always have with these businesses. I am not getting involved in what I have clearly seen as fraud. No way. Except you accept my anonymous contribution at the initial stage, and I see how the management acts to my recommendations. And if you are ready to pay for my service; otherwise, i will stay far away. I will not use my own two legs to walk into the den of lions. What the heck? Seriously, your life is at risk too...even you are the owner and you write to cover up here. Really, you need to fire everyone from top to bottom if you will make anything meaningful. What the heck? Jesus! Else, you can never be sucessful. Never! You can never make USD5.5million easily with about USD10K (I have strong conviction that the real value of the hydroponics can never be $350k). I am not Jesus who turned water into wine to feed many, and multiplied bread and fish to feed thousands.

Number 2 challenge: I speak with decision makers. This is my policy. My believe is simple: if the owners are not convinced they are in deep trouble, why shoukd I try to convince them? Of course, they need to accept they need serious help first. In fact, I am going to tell you to resign your appoontment with that compnay if you are taking a lead role. And if you are the one who asked them to go into it, it is your me.s.s. You created a big problem for yourself if you are the one who advised the owners. But what are the owners thinking of? Of course it is not a marijuana farm? Holy Jesus! In Africa? In Nigeria? In Okene?

I have been approached by up to 50 of these kind of people to set up a farms for them. And as soon as my spirit man tells me to walk away I do not even hesitate. I will not allow the peanut in it to lock me with devils. Never! A Nigeria where 25-something billion is budgeted for all road construction contracts in Nigeria, while 30-something is the budget for renovation of a building law makers use. Ma.d people. Ha! Nigeria is seriously sinking. No one who is in sane will want to stay in such environment. It is why our people are running out. The one that pisses me off these days is african americans thinking they are better version of black. Lol. That one cracks me so much. As soon as you meet an african american with master degree and above, they turn to gods. Lol. They are bossy and become a big hindrance to themselves. I am not talking about a particular person, but this is what is generally known and any African man especially in the US can attestate to it.

Back to the subject. And you will want to make profit. Lol. That is to say, your bosses will expect to make like USD10million annual sales because they have benn tricked into high greenhouse profit. This is like 3.6 billion naira. Hahahahahaha. Ask yourself, do you have cherry and beefstake market as huge as this? Ha! You are on your own if you are the decision maker. If you are not, you better start looking for job else where since I know the business is going down soon except the owners are Pablo Escobars. What the heck? Spend such amount in Okene on greenhouses? For what?

The amount of logistics itself from Lagos sea port to Okene will be more than N50 million naira with what I hsce seen so read so far. I will not hesistate to take good profit for my service. Believe me, I am not walking into the den of lions. If you agree that I do an audit, and you pay me and I walk away...I will write you. Other wise, my bro....no point in talking since I know I wikk neber step my feet there.

1. I will give you the honest sales projection based on the market you have for cherry and beefstake.

2. I will let you know the number of months you can make it.

3.I will make recommendations of varieties for your market (will run through the ones you are using now).

4. If you are the boss, your first assignment is to recover the amount spent, and I do not think you can ever be able ro do that with the greenhouse. Though, I have not seen what is on ground, but I can tell from the little you have said so far.

5. If your bosses (the owners) are not Escobars, they will not cough out more; thetefore, you need to find a way to convince them that you use part of sales to quickly produce more veggie. Even it is mile 12 products. Just to get them their cash. I have done this for many people who found themselves i same case with you.

6. I will give cheaper options. Honestly, you do not need what the Israeli supplied you to survive in a damaged economy like Nigeria. Do not get me wrong, this is where real money is. The only reason I can stay awat from Nigeria is to acquire more knowledge, and not to make money.

This is why consultants are after me. And I do not play into their hands too. Oga, you pay me nicely. But if it is for me to recommend someone who will do the impossibility for you, I cannot. Not until after the management follows A to Z of my recimmendation will I meet anyone.

Do not be quick to pass judgement without getting all the facts.

The fact that 350k usd was spent on the hydroponics system out a total spend of over 5.5 million usd should tell you that they are not only into hydroponics.

So calling the investment unwise, like you are insinuating, is not nice.

I have seen advert from them on areas of animal production, so they can only be involved in hydroponics

Atlanticfire:
Do not be quick to pass judgement without getting all the facts.

The fact that 350k usd was spent on the hydroponics system out a total spend of over 5.5 million usd should tell you that they are not only into hydroponics.

So calling the investment unwise, like you are insinuating, is not nice.

I have seen advert from them on areas of animal production, so they can only be involved in hydroponics

Pls can you refer me to these adverts??

I am not an all knowing being; therefore, I can't know if not told.

Having said that, I have spoken to the person and it is still a terrible investment with $350,000 for hydroponics which is around N126million. The worst scenario is that it should recover its investment in 12 months. Thats saying 10.5million sales per month. And the first 3 to 4 months will not yield anything cos the period is nursery and vegetative stages. So, it means it should generate 15.75 million naira sales per month to recover the gotal investment in a year (with zero). So, what kind of vegetable can you put on 2 ha (so I was told) that will yield such sales? Funny that 1 ha is for tomato, and 1 ha for hydroponics for lettuce. I was shocked that anyone in his right sense will ever think 1 ha lettuce or any green leaves can give 10.5 - 16 million naira sales monthly. They failed to carry out market analysis and listened to some expats who know nothing about the Nigerian market. I audited the quantity of hydroponics and it can tske around 3,500 plants on 1 ha. Can you see how foolish this? I was shocked. Oyinbo man don chest them big time. If na balck man they will start saying nonsense.. 3,500 tomato plants onn1 ha in a greenhouse. That is total ignorancy.

It is all about figures. I have seen it and I know it is a bad business even before they kicked off. And then, the guy is not a decision maker. He wants me to talk to the management and comvince them. Well, after analysing the business, I told him I dont do such. I am not in the business of convincing owners who are yet to realize they are in for a big loss in 2020. Owners convince me to start projects for them, and not to come and save projects. If I had told them to spend half of that, they would not agree because my color is not white. But they did what they did because an "oyinbo" man told them to do it. Lol. And it is an insult on my person to carry myself to them and start begging them that they are in trouble when they have not realised they are in trouble. Sounded funny to me.

Judging by this hydroponics unwise decision, the whole farm is likely to to bad business if I audit the whole farm. The owners may be using the farm as cover up investment for another business which is likely to be illegal. This is how drug lords behave. Well, that is their own cup of coffee. If they need my service, they should pay even for the audit. I think i even tried with the figures I gave the guy. If he is smart, he can use that to convince the management. If they can "dash" oyinbo man such huge amount, they should pay more to bail themselves out. If not, hahaha. Year 2020 is going to be not nice on them. Chai! The expats really killed the business and made "over too much profit" before the business starts. It is dead on arrival.

The only way out is thst a faithful manager comes on board and add open field to it so that they can afford tonot disturb the management for salaries and other expenses for rhe hydroponics for good 3 years which I think they can recover the investment. If not, the business is gone. Here is the solution I gave him, and I am.making it open. But how they will do it is their business. Because open field is a double edged sword. You run from it because it is with higher risk, and you want to depend on it to save the business..hahahahha. It is good to be wise. It is good to carrybout market research before starting.


Atlanticfire, this is 2020....respected men respect themselves. Stay off my lane with all your many dubious monikers which include kunleweb, healthsever, etc.

After my posts and confrontation with farmers here on the dangers of reckless attitudes towards handling manure, I have been receiving at least 5 new messages every month from farmers suffering from chronic infections. If you are still saying "this is how our fore-fathers do it", you will die faster than that your fore fathers. Remember that there weren't GMOs, chemicals, and pollutions in the days of your fore fathers. You are digging your grave unknowingly.

Read about how to fight chronic infections which is my latest thread in the health section. I hope this will reduce the number of people who contact me on this issue.

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Pistotita:
I am not an all knowing being; therefore, I can't know if not told.

Having said that, I have spoken to the person and it is still a terrible investment with $350,000 for hydroponics which is around N126million. The worst scenario is that it should recover its investment in 12 months. Thats saying 10.5million sales per month. And the first 3 to 4 months will not yield anything cos the period is nursery and vegetative stages. So, it means it should generate 15.75 million naira sales per month to recover the gotal investment in a year (with zero). So, what kind of vegetable can you put on 2 ha (so I was told) that will yield such sales? Funny that 1 ha is for tomato, and 1 ha for hydroponics for lettuce. I was shocked that anyone in his right sense will ever think 1 ha lettuce or any green leaves can give 10.5 - 16 million naira sales monthly. They failed to carry out market analysis and listened to some expats who know nothing about the Nigerian market. I audited the quantity of hydroponics and it can tske around 3,500 plants on 1 ha. Can you see how foolish this? I was shocked. Oyinbo man don chest them big time. If na balck man they will start saying nonsense.. 3,500 tomato plants onn1 ha in a greenhouse. That is total ignorancy.

It is all about figures. I have seen it and I know it is a bad business even before they kicked off. And then, the guy is not a decision maker. He wants me to talk to the management and comvince them. Well, after analysing the business, I told him I dont do such. I am not in the business of convincing owners who are yet to realize they are in for a big loss in 2020. Owners convince me to start projects for them, and not to come and save projects. If I had told them to spend half of that, they would not agree because my color is not white. But they did what they did because an "oyinbo" man told them to do it. Lol. And it is an insult on my person to carry myself to them and start begging them that they are in trouble when they have not realised they are in trouble. Sounded funny to me.

Judging by this hydroponics unwise decision, the whole farm is likely to to bad business if I audit the whole farm. The owners may be using the farm as cover up investment for another business which is likely to be illegal. This is how drug lords behave. Well, that is their own cup of coffee. If they need my service, they should pay even for the audit. I think i even tried with the figures I gave the guy. If he is smart, he can use that to convince the management. If they can "dash" oyinbo man such huge amount, they should pay more to bail themselves out. If not, hahaha. Year 2020 is going to be not nice on them. Chai! The expats really killed the business and made "over too much profit" before the business starts. It is dead on arrival.

The only way out is thst a faithful manager comes on board and add open field to it so that they can afford tonot disturb the management for salaries and other expenses for rhe hydroponics for good 3 years which I think they can recover the investment. If not, the business is gone. Here is the solution I gave him, and I am.making it open. But how they will do it is their business. Because open field is a double edged sword. You run from it because it is with higher risk, and you want to depend on it to save the business..hahahahha. It is good to be wise. It is good to carrybout market research before starting.


Atlanticfire, this is 2020....respected men respect themselves. Stay off my lane with all your many dubious monikers which include kunleweb, healthsever, etc.

I told you not to be quick to pass judgement without getting all the facts and you replied with more silly accusation. In what way am I related to healthserve and kunleweb that is making you to post insults about me and calling me dubious?

You have a problem, you need to stop chasing imaginary enemies.

By the way it is a good thing that you will not be consulting for the hydroponics business, anybody that chooses to calculate business health on the basis of 100% recovery of capital expenditure in one year, as you have done, has not yet learnt the basic principles of depreciation of assets and should have nothing to do with business economics.

Focus on your area of expertise and advice them to get an economist or a plant design consultant to review their feasibility study.

Atlanticfire:
I told you not to be quick to pass judgement without getting all the facts and you replied with more silly accusation. In what way am I related to healthserve and kunleweb that is making you to post insults about me and calling me dubious?

You have a problem, you need to stop chasing imaginary enemies.

By the way it is a good thing that you will not be consulting for the hydroponics business, anybody that chooses to calculate business health on the basis of 100% recovery of capital expenditure in one year, as you have done, has not yet learnt the basic principles of depreciation of assets and should have nothing to do with business economics.

Focus on your area of expertise and advice them to get an economist or a plant design consultant to review their feasibility study.

This is 2020, you can continue deceiving yourself, but I have moved on. I will not allow you to deprive my readers pending the time I get a new platform. You can consult for the company if you want. Itis a free world. Whatever you think, its fine. Your standard is different from mine. If one has a farm in Nigeria with the high price of foodstuff and veggies and cannot recover initial set up cost in a year, and even make minimum of 100% ROI, then, I am not sure the business is worth it. So, what is the benefit of the greenhouse when farmers are making 200% ROI on open field within 3 months? Better to dump the greenhouse. Is this not what Jethro was saying? Of course, you are someone who will definitely make her tell investors that greenhouse farming is not worth it. Is it worth it in your own eyes if you cannot recover your initial cost in a year? And you would advise your client to go for it? Oga, clap for yourself. I am sure it is a drug boss who will employ you when he knows he can cultivate cucumber 3 to 4 cycles per annum, and make minimum of 100% ROI on each cycle. Well, I have said it many times, you are just synchronizing everything everywhere on Nairaland.

See, I am moving on to do better things. You should keep following me about. I will turn all your negative posts to positive, and my followers will bebefit from them. You are a wonderful consultant who will tell your clients to be patient for 4 years to fully recover the full investments on the greenhouse project. Good for you. I only pity those listening to your synchronizations. As usual, you must return and reply me. And that is the real characteristic of that person behind this moniker. Of course, you must respons, and you will definitely respond. You are addicted to justify yourself. So, prove me right by replying me again


If you are wise, you will stay far away from my posts, nd avoid messing yourself up just like how you ridiculed yourself in my health section thread.

Continue your dubious ways. "I am done with you".

Did I not mention it that atlanticfire, who is also james555, healthserve and kunleweb is a real stubborn "he-goat"? He has replied again... He must because this is who he is. Please, stay away from this person and all his dubious monikers if you love yourself. After all the confrontations, he still does not want to leave me and my posts alone. The obsession of this person with me is really too much. Mehn! The woman who is going to be with this person will definitely go through a real h.ell on earth. Here is the link of his response again:
https://www.nairaland.com/5616005/fighting-chronic-infections-staph-ecoli#85617982

Please, stay away from this person with numerous monikers. He needs real help. And I pray he finds it fast.

It is time for Tomato
Every tomato farmer is happy every new year in Nigeria because it is time for tomato. There are obstacles so be careful. I started with my teams last year September, and mosy of them have understood the concepts of tomato cultivation. If you are just diving into it and you are doing it very big, you are taking too high risk. Even experienced guys are crushed at times.

I have received messages from newbies and farmers who want to get involved, but I am so sorry that I cannot pilot anyone. It is too risky to pilot you when you have no experience (I know it is your hard earned or borrowed cash). Like I wrote earlier, I started the program last year. I do not rush my projects. I take it gradually.

However, if you are desperate to go ahead....hmmmm...and you can afford mulch and drip for 600 to 1,000 plants per plot of land, I will assist you with the procedure. What I can do involves:

1. Mini Soil Test: to carry out non comprehensive tests to know diseases in your soil. Comprehensive test is out of reach of many farmers.

2. Give you a cultivar which produces minimum of 6kg per plant if well managed. You can pull out 15kg if you are good.

3. Microbes based on the result of soil test. (Imported and specially multiplied in the lab.....packer in granules and powder. Available is over 300 strains)

4. Micro nutrients (imported not these fake brands around)

5. Amino Acids speciallly for tomato formular.

Please, only if you can buy drip and mulch. A plot is sufficient to learn now.

Risk Management: If you cannot pull it through because of diseases, you will get free burpless cucumber seeds and microbes (worth of over N100k). Together with the drip, mulch, and other nutrients you have, I do not see you not recovering your investment and make profit too.

However, I think I can do this conveniently with a group of newbies. It is.not possible to do it for just one or two individuals.

Even drip can be shared. I will just send you to my guy (cheapest so far around) and will plead with him to divide it among buyers. Why not? 3 people can pick one roll(500m each) and cut down the price to less N20k for drip. Same applies to mulch. On top, you get good drip quality, and not these useless ones most sellers advertise. I do not blame them too since farmers are stingy. Lol. They give you quality, you reject. Lol..and you go for useless kinds. The day that veil covering your eyes drops is your day of deliverance.

I believe N200k is sufficient with this method. Only for tomato people who are already asking me (not for everyone). But please....I cannot be regular answering questions, sending boys to your farm. I am already on a project which is more than enough. On top, I am not going to be all through around. And you cannot even get me everytime. I can only create a plafform for you to try yourself. And if you fail, I will give you cukes seeds and microbes to recover your money.

Best of luck everyone.

Pistotita:
It is time for Tomato
Every tomato farmer is happy every new year in Nigeria because it is time for tomato. There are obstacles so be careful. I started with my teams last year September, and mosy of them have understood the concepts of tomato cultivation. If you are just diving into it and you are doing it very big, you are taking too high risk. Even experienced guys are crushed at times.

I have received messages from newbies and farmers who want to get involved, but I am so sorry that I cannot pilot anyone. It is too risky to pilot you when you have no experience (I know it is your hard earned or borrowed cash). Like I wrote earlier, I started the program last year. I do not rush my projects. I take it gradually.

However, if you are desperate to go ahead....hmmmm...and you can afford mulch and drip for 600 to 1,000 plants per plot of land, I will assist you with the procedure. What I can do involves:

1. Mini Soil Test: to carry out non comprehensive tests to know diseases in your soil. Comprehensive test is out of reach of many farmers.

2. Give you a cultivar which produces minimum of 6kg per plant if well managed. You can pull out 15kg if you are good.

3. Microbes based on the result of soil test. (Imported and specially multiplied in the lab.....packer in granules and powder. Available is over 300 strains)

4. Micro nutrients (imported not these fake brands around)

5. Amino Acids speciallly for tomato formular.

Please, only if you can buy drip and mulch. A plot is sufficient to learn now.

Risk Management: If you cannot pull it through because of diseases, you will get free burpless cucumber seeds and microbes (worth of over N100k). Together with the drip, mulch, and other nutrients you have, I do not see you not recovering your investment and make profit too.

However, I think I can do this conveniently with a group of newbies. It is.not possible to do it for just one or two individuals.

Even drip can be shared. I will just send you to my guy (cheapest so far around) and will plead with him to divide it among buyers. Why not? 3 people can pick one roll(500m each) and cut down the price to less N20k for drip. Same applies to mulch. On top, you get good drip quality, and not these useless ones most sellers advertise. I do not blame them too since farmers are stingy. Lol. They give you quality, you reject. Lol..and you go for useless kinds. The day that veil covering your eyes drops is your day of deliverance.

I believe N200k is sufficient with this method. Only for tomato people who are already asking me (not for everyone). But please....I cannot be regular answering questions, sending boys to your farm. I am already on a project which is more than enough. On top, I am not going to be all through around. And you cannot even get me everytime. I can only create a plafform for you to try yourself. And if you fail, I will give you cukes seeds and microbes to recover your money.

Best of luck everyone.

You're intoxicated with stupidity. If Seun Pavore9 and the forum doesn't permit blackmail and libel would you be doing this without getting banned? The forum permits it. You're full of yourself. That you feel you attained a height makes you feel and assume you're the best that exists and the only one that exists


Atlantic fire was discussing with you on an issue the next thing you began to do was rant and insult throwing tantrums and curses all over the place calling healthserve Atlanticfire. Just the same way you blackmailed me throughout last year. Your problem is your inability to understand and accept that you're not the only astute person life has. Nor will ever be.


You managed to brandish me as a thief across the entire forum to the extent people see me as a thief the same way you did to Agroprenuer and Atlanticfire.


Should blackmail be a norm. I have heard I'm a thief and a fraud and have put it forward to you since August you've been trailing me you're yet to bring forward one single person that even knows my bank account let alone broungt a valid case



Yet you will call yourself a Christian. Brining down another to promote himself. Destroying one's image deliberately unsubstantially to promote oneself. Brilliant mind you have. Strong intellect but terrible personality.


I hope your followers see first hand the type of person you are


I didn't mean to mention the rest of the people you painted me as a thief before... But I think they should see your handiwork this new year


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Atlanticfire:
I told you not to be quick to pass judgement without getting all the facts and you replied with more silly accusation. In what way am Iy.

He is an intelligent dude. But uses libel under the assumption no one else should have knowledge of agronomic besides him and that because he spends 10 hours a day to study 200 books in a year means there aren't other people who spend time researching developing and practising these things. Libel, smear campaign and blackmail are his weapons



Rather than stick to his research and area of expertise without trying to polic other people. Imposing his projected and twisted thoughts on other people, he projects himself and imposes himself under the twisted assumption that no one should know anything about Agronomic. Besides him


Be careful. He destroyed my image completely shouting everywhere posting all over the forum that I was a fraud because we engaged in a discussion on a few issues and had differing perspectives


Libel and blackmail are his weapons. Check November last year and August on his time line and see how he did the same to Agroprenuer to pull him down



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Pls I need price for Cucumber (25kg & 50kg) bag. Without cost of transportation.

Pls contact me on 07014114189

dealerman:
Pls I need price for Cucumber (25kg & 50kg) bag. Without cost of transportation.

Pls contact me on 07014114189

If you are based in Ogun or Lagos, leave your farm and move down to Mile 12 and meet sellers there. No one gives the cost of transport too. You bargain with the driver you want to use. And if you are in Ibadan, there are many markets there - Bodija:, Eleyele, and others. If in Ijebu Ode, there are markets there too. No matter where you are, Nairaland is not the place to ask for price at all. But I was at mile 12 to buy veggies this week and my friend Bala told me that the bag used by southwest farmers which weighs around 40kg has been fluctuating btw N4,500 and N6,000 since Monday. My guess is that birder closure is really doing farmers good. But can crash anytime.

Readers, please ignore that fraudulent guy making noise above. Just ignore him. Let us stay focused this 2020 and leave fraudulent people behind us.

Pistotita:
If you are based in Ogun or Lagos, leave your farm and move down to Mile 12 and meet sellers there. No one gives the cost of transport too. You bargain with the driver you want to use. And if you are in Ibadan, there are many markets there - Bodija:, Eleyele, and others. If in Ijebu Ode, there are markets there too. No matter where you are, Nairaland is not the place to ask for price at all. But I was at mile 12 to buy veggies this week and my friend Bala told me that the bag used by southwest farmers which weighs around 40kg has been fluctuating btw N4,500 and N6,000 since Monday. My guess is that birder closure is really doing farmers good. But can crash anytime.

Readers, please ignore that fraudulent guy making noise above. Just ignore him. Let us stay focused this 2020 and leave fraudulent people behind us.

I feel sorry for people who do anything with you. You have the stinkiest of character I've ever seen. What's more amazing is how you claim to see many things and know many things but can't see your own stinking character. Should on be able to see the speck in other people's eyes when they have logs of woods in theirs. Tell me hypocrite.


Now that you tarnished my image completely online have you completely stopped my. Momentum? I feel sorry for people who have anything to do with you. I feel great sorry for you. You're worse than scum.



You're the sacrificial head/satanic agent they sent from the marine kingdom to come tarnish my. Image to divert my progress abi. I laugh in swahili. I'm taking cogent and strategic decisions offline. Keep it up. You will get served.




My entire team have taken up battle positions and every foe will be treated. Fact. Everything is in set and all enemies will meet force. Its not a threat, its a guarantee



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Please, focus on the subject at hand. It is 2020 dry season. We are not getting into debates with frauds. Please, no one should reply him. Let us just be focused on the task at hand which is to get rewarded for tilling the ground. May God reward everyone who is doing legitimate business and not trying to scam others in the name of consultancy.