jimyjames:


My friend politically the north are one so yes they outnumbered the south west


And yes cause of the oil boom ojukwu was the governor over all the eastern region and easter region became Biafra so what are you talking about?

Oh and by the way, refuting your claim that there was no meeting between pa Awolowo and Ojukwu


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vanguardngr.com/2012/11/awolowo-and-the-forgotten-documents-of-the-civil-war-by-odia-ofeimun-3/amp/

jacksol:

I won't insult you like the others, but try and stand aloof and look at your stand for a moment. You are here defending what's in the exclusive list and what's not for the FG. Is the FG discharging those roles adequately for everyone?
When a matter is of life and death of a whole people or sections of the populace, what good is exclusivity of roles.
If you have been kidnapped off the Ibadan/Ife highway and ransomed for N10m, would you be here defending what's in the FG exclusive list.
And do you honestly think this country is working and viable in the manner we're going?

The purposes of my post is not to support fg or state but to inform people of what the law and other issues are so we can collectively fashion out a way that is good for us all. U don't use a hammer to kill a mosquito bitting your schrotum

FrLukas:


Oh and by the way, refuting your claim that there was no meeting between pa Awolowo and Ojukwu


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vanguardngr.com/2012/11/awolowo-and-the-forgotten-documents-of-the-civil-war-by-odia-ofeimun-3/amp/

There is noting there that proofs awolowo met with ojukwu over Biafra , its all propaganda the only Yoruba person ojukwu had a deal with over Biafra was victor banjo who later betrayed ojukwu and ojukwu executed him

LandMann:


The purposes of my post is not to support fg or state but to inform people of what the law and other issues are so we can collectively fashion out a way that is good for us all. U don't use a hammer to kill a mosquito bitting your schrotum

You are not infoing anyone rather you are expressing your opinion or interpretation
Unless the word inform has changed in meaning it is not informative to announce facts that have been in the public domain for more than 20 years.

It is quite patronising to act as if you have revealed some profound mystical secrets.

Ultimately the issues are such as might require judicial interpretation but there is nothing in the constitution that places security exclusively in the domain of the FG as you asert

ddjay:
WOW, THE UNHOLY UNION BETWEEN ODUDUWA AND THE ABOKI/ALMAJIRI PART OF THE NORTH HAS SUCCESSFULLY ENDED (THOUGH NOT WELL) SO WILL TINUBU GET THE 2023 PRESIDENCY

It has not ended.when election comes, they will be united again.

only God 'll save nigeria from breaking up, under this clueless govt. just immagine, after doing lopsided appointments of service chiefs, tilted in the favour of the north, impunity of killers from the same north, terrorising the whole nation un-checked, as non 've been brought to justice, despite their un-provoked killings of thousands of nigerians. this same govt still want nigerians to trust their safety on their care, despite all these un-resolved riddle in their style of governance. now nigerians wants to protect themselves from being killed, by these terrorists, the same govt that refused to provide security for the citizens is kicking against it. do they want nigerians to be like sitting ducks, to be killed at will, by these men of terror ?
what's the motive behind all these ?

Those who assume the role of God over the destiny of Nigeria shall be disappointed before 2023 in Jesus name .

lol

Ustec:

Nice one from afenifere,
But stop believing aboki's are illiterates, those educated guys up north are so sound that you will end up doffing your cap when you gets to know them.

there best student in the northern is a mere student in the south...show get size my brother

jimyjames:


Everything you wrote up there is fiction in your own mind

Ojukwu never had a conversation with awolowo over Biafra, awolowo never met with ojukwu before, during or after the war,


Yes awolowo was scared of Yoruba's being left with the north in Nigeria cause the north out numbered them and Lagos was the capital of Nigeria which could have being in control of the north

We had all Nigeria wanted the oil, Nigeria knew the amount of oil that was in Biafra oil was like gold and Nigeria didn't want to miss out


The same oil boomed in the 70s after the war and it was through that oil all regions have been receiving their allocations till date, noting was accumulated and giving to us notting

can we please drop this BIAFRA war stories that have been flying around even before we were born?.Are you guys not tired of it.stupid southerners..while you are here fighting over a war that was faught 50yrs ago, the Fulani herdsmen are infiltrating every nook and crany of our lives They have infilterathed our political scene as.They can now tell us to which section of the country can get the presidency or not.they have invaded a[our land and people in their farmlands, .They are focus and strategic in thier dealing while we are stupid and distracted and rather engage in an e-war that has yeided anything but to massage our bugus egos. We want to show here online that we are better than the other ethnic group. oo! the igbos are better than the Yoruba..oo! wait the Yorubas are way better than the Igbos...bla bla bla!!
While you go about argueing here online at all times, your people are being killed and kidnapped on a daily basis. Policies are be set to favour a particular section of the country and you are here fighting over nothing. You only fill better when you say something bad about another southern group and how you are better than them.You all from the south that have noting to do but wage unnecessary- war between yourselves are all crazy.The Igbos as well as the Yorubas engaging in all these e-war are all crazy.If you both have nothing good to say about the other group then shut the hell up and get a life.

AMOTEKUN ti geye Miyetti. Ko ye mo rara.

Miyetti is confused.

0monnak0da:


You are not infoing anyone rather you are expressing your opinion or interpretation
Unless the word inform has changed in meaning it is not informative to announce facts that have been in the public domain for more than 20 years.

It is quite patronising to act as if you have revealed some profound mystical secrets.

Ultimately the issues are such as might require judicial interpretation but there is nothing in the constitution that places security exclusively in the domain of the FG as you asert

There's nothing in the constitution that places security in the domain of FG.... Hmmm.

Let me ask you sir, who controls NPF, Nigeria Army, Airforce, Navy, NSCDC, Customs and Immigration?

These are all security outfits in Nigeria. Sir, are the workers in any of the list above paid by state governments?

Okay. Please mention one security outfit operating anywhere in Nigeria currently that doesn't derive it's authority from FG with NA approval.

Okay. Also tell me why calls are being made to FG and not SG to create state police.

If you look closely, you will see that this Ametokun issue is a fallout of FG reluctance towards creating state police.

Hmm.

LandMann:


There's nothing in the constitution that places security in the domain of FG.... Hmmm.

Did I say that?

Sir,

You are a liar.
Deliberately dishonest.
End of...

Am glad that Afonjas are beginning to gather some morale to challenge their enslavement in the hands of the descendants of Danfodio. Hope they will persevere.

Nigerians are something else. Lol

Snipper007:


Cheetah=Buhariekun

0monnak0da:


You are not infoing anyone rather you are expressing your opinion or interpretation
Unless the word inform has changed in meaning it is not informative to announce facts that have been in the public domain for more than 20 years.

It is quite patronising to act as if you have revealed some profound mystical secrets.

Ultimately the issues are such as might require judicial interpretation but there is nothing in the constitution that places security exclusively in the domain of the FG as you asert

0monnak0da:

Did I say that?

Sir,

You are a liar.
Deliberately dishonest.
End of...

My brother, I have quoted your own post and bolded the comment you made. I wonder if you read and understand your own comment before posting. #peace unto you sir

LandMann:





My brother, I have quoted your own post and bolded the comment you made. I wonder if you read and understand your own comment before posting. #peace unto you sir

The problem with you is you are intrinsically dishonest.

LandMann:


There's nothing in the constitution that places security in the domain of FG.... Hmmm.

.

Since you are in the business of reproducing quotes look at the quote above

Is it the same as what I wrote?. Guy do not play dumb

Take a very good look at what you emboldened and what I quoted

The world Exclusively was dropped by you.

What difference does that make to the two sentences?
I don't have time to play silly buggers with you
You are a liar

0monnak0da:


The problem with you is you are intrinsically dishonest.



Since you are in the business of reproducing quotes look at the quote above

Is it the same as what I wrote?. Guy do not play dumb

Take a very good look at what you emboldened and what I quoted

The world Exclusively was dropped by you.

What difference does that make to the two sentences?
I don't have time to play silly buggers with you
You are a liar

How you managed to leave a more important question to run after one word is a mystery. Do you know what "Exclusive" means when it comes to how power and roles are shared between the three arms of government in Nigeria?

Again, since you say security is not the exclusive preserve of FG, can you point out one arm bearing security outfit set up by state or private individual without authority from FG government or police acting on behalf of FG....


Just point out one and put the devil to shame

LandMann:


How you managed to leave a more important question to run after one word is a mystery. Do you know what "Exclusive" means when it comes to how power and roles are shared between the three arms of government in Nigeria?

Again, since you say security is not the exclusive preserve of FG, can you point out one arm bearing security outfit set up by state or private individual without authority from FG government or police acting on behalf of FG....


Just point out one and put the devil to shame

Do not be an idiot.
You misquoted me
I I gave you a clear path to correct yourself? I asked you is that what I said.
Instead of you to admit your error you went down the path of questioning my comprehension when clearly you are the one that doesn't understand simple English.
Read and comprehend
Stop ridiculing yasef

The word was exclusively not exclusive.

You are dishonest,
A dirty liar

For the first time i see the Yoruba people being courageous . It is time to tell these Fulani people that enough is enough. They 're so fool of themselves. What is presidency compare to human lives.

LandMann:


How you managed to leave a more important question to run after one word is a mystery. Do you know what "Exclusive" means when it comes to how power and roles are shared between the three arms of government in Nigeria?

Again, since you say security is not the exclusive preserve of FG, can you point out one arm bearing security outfit set up by state or private individual without authority from FG government or police acting on behalf of FG....


Just point out one and put the devil to shame

Exclusive list

Is a list for legislation
There is no exclusive list for the executive

Talking about iG and all the other made up sub categories are your own fabrication to win an argument here.
The IG is not a legislator

This is a constitutional issue any one with issues will go to court

The fact remains


SECURITY is not on the exclusive list

LandMann:
We all should put emotions, tribalism and ethnic hatred aside and examine this issue of Ametokun based purely on its merits and demerits and in light of existing laws.

The following points should guide us:

1. Internal security is an exclusive task of the FG. FG can give authority to state or local actors to improve security. Example; local vigilantes and some paramilitary organisation like Man o War must acquire police permission before operating... This is an example of FG giving other actors permission to act in improving security.

2. There's no federal law or agreement between federal and state outlining the activities to be covered by Ametokun, given the existence of police, nscdc and other existing internal security outfit... This agreement or law is important to avoid conflict between these organisations when issues of security occur. We're still dealing with superiority contest between FRSC, VIO, NSCDC, YELLOW FEVER, POLICE AND ARMY on our highways...

3. With no national law or agreement coupled with high level of illiteracy and unprofessionalism of most state workers, state governments can quickly start using Ametokun as instrument of oppression and a means of further looting state resources because security spending is often shrouded in secrecy, and even Ametokun members can take to crimes as side hustle when they start feeling dissatisfied with their salary. They have the training and the instrument of force (guns)... Who's going to prevent them from misusing both and how?

The above are just some issues worth considering.

If all the loopholes are properly plugged, then Ametokun can kick off.

We shouldn't cheer on the idea even with the obvious loopholes because it can quickly spread, every region can quickly have their own version of Ametokun and it won't be long before outside actors start smuggling weapons to these different regional Ametokuns and with the existing ethnic hatred, it won't take long before another civil war arises that will tear Nigeria apart and make current Libya and Iraq look like heaven compared to how Nigeria will look like.

We should protect our country, not our states or region or ethnic enclave.

Modified

I have received so many emotional response to this post and I find it demoralising that many people can't pass their message without insults.

I won't respond to you if you insult me. There's a report button for that.

For further clarification, and to buttress point 1, see the link below for items on the exclusive (fg) list so you understand why, under the current constitution, nobody, whether state or individual, can unilaterally set-up a security arrangement without approval from FG....

http://www.waado.org/NigerDelta/ConstitutionalMatters/1999Constitution/SecondSchedule.html

Item 2 is arms and explosives--- I'm sure Amotekun personnel won't use catapult and stones.

Item 17 is defence...again under FG control...this is more towards external aggression but can be directed towards internal aggression like we see with Boko Haram and other militant groups.

Item 45 is policing...again under FG control.

And what is F.G of Nigeria if NOT HAUSA FULANI GOVERNMENT OF NIGERIA?
Is there Federal character in the appointed heads of Chief SECURITY HEADS?

These are some of the ISSUES people expect you to know before you outline those useless points in your write-up.

AMOTEKUN is still in friendly mode now for the arrogant Core North to change it ways before it is too late.

This is a matter of Life and Death.

Sellf Determination loading....

emerged01:
Chai! This show that we are in deep mess. This is beyond presidency. This has really shown that north has an agenda. Yoruba must think. This high time some foolish people among yoruba who are seeking power needs to be dealt with. It is high time we start thinking of how to break away for this bondage called country.

you want to see the foolish ones among Yoruba dealt with wait for 2023 election tinubu would die of heart attack and depression

I said the wicked plan of the north will fall on their head. This baba's words may prove prophetic

Amotekun is a red line (picture those pickups) of self preservation drawn by the Yoruba and the north have crossed it with their statements .. With the lopsided appointments of security heads and tendency of security agents to look away my worry has always been of a swift strike at Yoruba land by the egotistic wicked ones. Amotekun the swift Cheetah will check such moves so surprise attack possibility is reduced. Let all Yorubas be on a defensive mindset against sudden attack.

Yoruba would have gone very far by now if not for being in this Nigeria. I think enough is enough. Odua would quickly become the jewel of west africa..with Fela Kuti on our 100 note. It's like Gods judgement has come for the wicked.

lol at those that are suddenly talking about unity with SW .. SW u hate so much? That u've insulted so much.. Una don dey fear say u go gats pay pricey Visa to come Lagos.

DNSPro:
true. I am igbo and I agree here. That is Achilles heels of igbos. All their things na gra gra... Without wisdom and tact.

They are brave but bravery without wisdom and tact will lead to he death of the brave as events has historically shown

Brain Is Superior To Brawn

DEROX:
oga shut up you think all what tinubu is doing is for fun internal Politics has been played and negotiated and when i mean internal Politics i mean northerners and sw they only want to use this to threaten the agreement why can't you stop north from becoming president because they rule more than others why south West dont Be jealous no one knows an igbo man in nigeria Politics and no one wants him too sw is not and never ur mate in Politics

I think it is BEST you shut up. Has OBJ not ruled on behalf of SW before? We want fairness, meaning ALL regions should taste power after all there are smart Nigerians who can rule in every region not just one or SW.

I'm not from the East but I hate injustice!

Amotekun is absolutely constitutional and legal. Amotekun is a regional security outfit, formed by states in the South-west geopolitical zone of Nigeria to reinforce the Nigeria Police, with the stated aim of improving security of life and property of Nigerians.

kayusely70:
Brain Is Superior To Brawn

I guess they have learn that bro. Though they are generally emotional and can't hide their feelings...even I is same. If you provoke me, I will react immediately but I have seen that being unreactive, calm and compose in the face of provocation can actually give more power.

Unlike the Northerner guys whom, no matter how provoked, will be calm, carefully or silently plot your destruction.

spinna:
I said the wicked plan of the north will fall on their head. This baba's words may prove prophetic

Amotekun is a red line (picture those pickups) of self preservation drawn by the Yoruba and the north have crossed it with their statements .. With the lopsided appointments of security heads and tendency of security agents to look away my worry has always been of a swift strike at Yoruba land by the egotistic wicked ones. Amotekun the swift Cheetah will check such moves so surprise attack possibility is reduced. Let all Yorubas be on a defensive mindset against sudden attack.

Yoruba would have gone very far by now if not for being in this Nigeria. I think enough is enough. Odua would quickly become the jewel of west africa..with Fela Kuti on our 100 note. It's like Gods judgement has come for the wicked.

lol at those that are suddenly talking about unity with SW .. SW u hate so much? That u've insulted so much.. Una don dey fear say u go gats pay pricey Visa to come Lagos.

fool... Lagos is the only thing you can boast of in South West abi? Some. Of you need to travel out of Nigeria for proper brain reset after seeing what true development looks like.

Visa kill you there.

Tinubu the betrayer right now

DNSPro:
fool... Lagos is the only thing you can boast of in South West abi? Some. Of you need to travel out of Nigeria for proper brain reset after seeing what true development looks like.

Visa kill you there.

Na your daddy be fool..the one that raised you without manners. My exact point is seen in your words