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MamaFryo:
Question: "Why did God send an evil spirit to torment King Saul?"

First Samuel 16:14 says, “The Spirit of the LORD had departed from Saul, and an evil spirit from the LORD tormented him.” This is also mentioned in 1 Samuel 16:15–16, 23; 18:10; and 19:9. Why did God let an evil spirit torment Saul? In what way was the evil spirit “from” the Lord?

We all know that God is holy, I always wonder what relationship that light has with darkness. How could an embodiment of holiness have evil in possession. Please note that this case is different from that of Job where God allowed devil to take hold of him. In this very case, the evil spirit is reported to be directly from God. This seems to be that God himself has evil and holy spirit in his possession. He uses them as he wants. Something like he can choose to be holy or evil...

It is Sunday, Nairaland, Mama Fryo wants to hear your views about this question. Any logical, analytic or detail answer?

MamaFryo:
If you know you know. If only you can choose to free your mind to learn deep, one day you will realise that since we were not made to choose our family, our place and date of birth, our natural gender, our race...something somewhere controls all these. So when you were born and you now start thinking about how you got here, you start thinking you are in control. There was a writer who first chose you and assigned you to play the role you play. Whatever choice you make is as a result of what you are meant to do. This explains why there will always be criminals, terrorists, witchcraft, lunatics, gentlemen, poor, rich, kind and wicked people on this stage called earth. Someone has to play the role to keep the play on. Any society without all these characters does not exist in reality...na fiction.

What do I even know se f?

uzohrome:
Yes the evil spirit is from God. God works with the devil most times as a repercussion for offenders. You know that Jesus Christ is the head of all principality and power. God knew that all power belongs to him and make Christ to take charge over them. I often tell some persons if God did not bind or kill the devil who are you to do so. All you need do is to believe in God and born again in Christ and the devil will depart from you. Devil will always have one on one discussion with God about any situation. If God say yes go ahead then the devil will do a perfect work. Check The story of Job. Devil and God in a round table maybe with some bottle of wine and well garnished fresh fish discussing how to try or deal with Job, I mean very obedient child of God. God give the devil go ahead to try Job. Maybe they end the discussion with a toast laughing and hugging each other. But over here na to kill devil. die die die ... Haba for watin na. Even Jesus still get time to discuss with the devil and they resolve amicably without fighting each other. Jesus for bind and cast the devil immediately to end all this devil issues. For me devil is never our problems, we are the architect of our own misfortune. I think I need go bible school.

Emmzi:
OP note: the spirit "OF" the LORD and an evil spirit "FROM" the LORD.
"from" means a place of origin; while "of" means a part to a whole.
evil spirits or demons were once angels or God's creation, but they rebelled.
Since Saul was no longer under God's grace, he was subject to torment from the demons or evil spirit.

MamaFryo:
Question: "Why did God send an evil spirit to torment King Saul?"

First Samuel 16:14 says, “The Spirit of the LORD had departed from Saul, and an evil spirit from the LORD tormented him.” This is also mentioned in 1 Samuel 16:15–16, 23; 18:10; and 19:9. Why did God let an evil spirit torment Saul? In what way was the evil spirit “from” the Lord?

We all know that God is holy, I always wonder what relationship that light has with darkness. How could an embodiment of holiness have evil in possession. Please note that this case is different from that of Job where God allowed devil to take hold of him. In this very case, the evil spirit is reported to be directly from God. This seems to be that God himself has evil and holy spirit in his possession. He uses them as he wants. Something like he can choose to be holy or evil...

It is Sunday, Nairaland, Mama Fryo wants to hear your views about this question. Any logical, analytic or detail answer?

Inteltower:
you fool, be mindful of what you say about God.
if you don't have understanding stop displaying your pathetic ignorance.
He is God and if he demands Satan in his presence Satan will obey (See the book of job)
didn't he use Israelites enemies from time to time to punish them (Egypt, Rome, etc)
you fool for both evil and good things/beings he can use; Isn't he God ? (See book of revelations about the four horse men)
didn't he send the angel of death to kill every first born male in Egypt ?
didn't he send a lying spirit to an Israelite king who surrounded himself with many prophets
didn't he send the 10 plagues to Egypt
or destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah ?

you ignorant fool am asking you isn't he God ?
if you were a god in his shoes how will you punish mankind for their sinful ways ?

answer this and find the truth
do not attract God's wrath with shallow ignorance that fly out of your mouth


gosh some peoples understanding are really wack and darkened that they snare their souls for condemnation

Lord forgive me I can't stand fools that are not looking for truth but argument like the Pharisees.

salford1:
Absolutely. He kept using the word "fool" as if his life depends on that word. Shame on him.

MamaFryo:
Question: "Why did God send an evil spirit to torment King Saul?"

First Samuel 16:14 says, “The Spirit of the LORD had departed from Saul, and an evil spirit from the LORD tormented him.” This is also mentioned in 1 Samuel 16:15–16, 23; 18:10; and 19:9. Why did God let an evil spirit torment Saul? In what way was the evil spirit “from” the Lord?

We all know that God is holy, I always wonder what relationship that light has with darkness. How could an embodiment of holiness have evil in possession. Please note that this case is different from that of Job where God allowed devil to take hold of him. In this very case, the evil spirit is reported to be directly from God. This seems to be that God himself has evil and holy spirit in his possession. He uses them as he wants. Something like he can choose to be holy or evil...

It is Sunday, Nairaland, Mama Fryo wants to hear your views about this question. Any logical, analytic or detail answer?

Inteltower:
you fool, be mindful of what you say about God.
if you don't have understanding stop displaying your pathetic ignorance.
He is God and if he demands Satan in his presence Satan will obey (See the book of job)
didn't he use Israelites enemies from time to time to punish them (Egypt, Rome, etc)
you fool for both evil and good things/beings he can use; Isn't he God ? (See book of revelations about the four horse men)
didn't he send the angel of death to kill every first born male in Egypt ?
didn't he send a lying spirit to an Israelite king who surrounded himself with many prophets
didn't he send the 10 plagues to Egypt
or destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah ?

you ignorant fool am asking you isn't he God ?
if you were a god in his shoes how will you punish mankind for their sinful ways ?

answer this and find the truth
do not attract God's wrath with shallow ignorance that fly out of your mouth


gosh some peoples understanding are really wack and darkened that they snare their souls for condemnation

Lord forgive me I can't stand fools that are not looking for truth but argument like the Pharisees.

1StopRudeness:
damn free will?? We are all acting a script?? You are more weird than an the average atheist....

No one is forced to do anything, yes there’s are influencing forces all around us in the universe, from the wind to water, to heat, to force of love hatred, to the tv, the internet, the radio, even other humans are all everyday influencers...but an influence is only a thought in the mind... u still have the right to say no or yes..
a 15year old boy that killed a 9year old in Scotland in 2019 after raping her said he was influenced by pornographic content...but he still had his free will...we only become the thoughts we entertain and succumb to.... we are all acting a script wey your uncle write for wale adenuga production............shior!!!!

1StopRudeness:
damn free will?? We are all acting a script?? You are more weird than an the average atheist....

No one is forced to do anything, yes there’s are influencing forces all around us in the universe, from the wind to water, to heat, to force of love hatred, to the tv, the internet, the radio, even other humans are all everyday influencers...but an influence is only a thought in the mind... u still have the right to say no or yes..
a 15year old boy that killed a 9year old in Scotland in 2019 after raping her said he was influenced by pornographic content...but he still had his free will...we only become the thoughts we entertain and succumb to....

BotafogoJunior:
we are all acting a script wey your uncle write for wale adenuga production abi??..............shior!!!

MamaFryo:
Question: "Why did God send an evil spirit to torment King Saul?"

First Samuel 16:14 says, “The Spirit of the LORD had departed from Saul, and an evil spirit from the LORD tormented him.” This is also mentioned in 1 Samuel 16:15–16, 23; 18:10; and 19:9. Why did God let an evil spirit torment Saul? In what way was the evil spirit “from” the Lord?

We all know that God is holy, I always wonder what relationship that light has with darkness. How could an embodiment of holiness have evil in possession. Please note that this case is different from that of Job where God allowed devil to take hold of him. In this very case, the evil spirit is reported to be directly from God. This seems to be that God himself has evil and holy spirit in his possession. He uses them as he wants. Something like he can choose to be holy or evil...

It is Sunday, Nairaland, Mama Fryo wants to hear your views about this question. Any logical, analytic or detail answer?

HacheNoire:
All your beliefs are fictions.

Jesus discussing with devil?

Cartoons!

uzohrome:
Yes the evil spirit is from God. God works with the devil most times as a repercussion for offenders. You know that Jesus Christ is the head of all principality and power. God knew that all power belongs to him and make Christ to take charge over them. I often tell some persons if God did not bind or kill the devil who are you to do so. All you need do is to believe in God and born again in Christ and the devil will depart from you. Devil will always have one on one discussion with God about any situation. If God say yes go ahead then the devil will do a perfect work. Check The story of Job. Devil and God in a round table maybe with some bottle of wine and well garnished fresh fish discussing how to try or deal with Job, I mean very obedient child of God. God give the devil go ahead to try Job. Maybe they end the discussion with a toast laughing and hugging each other. But over here na to kill devil. die die die ... Haba for watin na. Even Jesus still get time to discuss with the devil and they resolve amicably without fighting each other. Jesus for bind and cast the devil immediately to end all this devil issues. For me devil is never our problems, we are the architect of our own misfortune. I think I need go bible school.

Inteltower:
you fool, be mindful of what you say about God.
if you don't have understanding stop displaying your pathetic ignorance.
He is God and if he demands Satan in his presence Satan will obey (See the book of job)
didn't he use Israelites enemies from time to time to punish them (Egypt, Rome, etc)
you fool for both evil and good things/beings he can use; Isn't he God ? (See book of revelations about the four horse men)
didn't he send the angel of death to kill every first born male in Egypt ?
didn't he send a lying spirit to an Israelite king who surrounded himself with many prophets
didn't he send the 10 plagues to Egypt
or destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah ?

you ignorant fool am asking you isn't he God ?
if you were a god in his shoes how will you punish mankind for their sinful ways ?

answer this and find the truth
do not attract God's wrath with shallow ignorance that fly out of your mouth


gosh some peoples understanding are really wack and darkened that they snare their souls for condemnation

Lord forgive me I can't stand fools that are not looking for truth but argument like the Pharisees.

paparazi1:
Abeg you in the name of God, don't say what you are not sure of, else you
attract the wrath of God. You don't even know what might be added or subtracted from your life Deut 4:2, Rev 22:18
what you are claiming here is not true, is either you don't understand what you read or is base on some forms of
fake occult nonsensical beliefs or teachings which should not be considered at all.

1StopRudeness:
Permit me to take it from here, Just like cold same is darkness....what do I mean? Cold is really not a thing, it’s just an absence of heat....
Likewise Darkness, it’s not an entity, I mean it’s not an energy or force like light, it’s only a void that sort of manifest once light becomes automatically absent...
This automatic presence and absence is governed by the principle of balance in the universe... u don’t prepare for success, u have automatically prepared for failure...u choose not to show love..u think you are sitting in the fence noooo!!! U have automatically subscribed for the hate side...
In relation to Saul, he stepped out of the boundaries of his relationship with the spirit of light, automatically the void is filled by evil or darkness...
Is the darkness from God who the Bible reports to be holy.?? Technically yes!! The Bible said he made all things... yes the Bible also gave other attributes of God, he’s judge the engineer of balance I earlier mentioned...
as an atheist, you want to play God’s card of holiness but you don’t want to play his card of balance....is that not why both Christians and Muslims an atheist alike are subject to same things....the same Bible u quoted also say he’s no respecter of person...he ensures balance, I don’t think he can enforce such balance without his holiness side otherwise he’ll be partial....

However, the unseen factors that guides the execution of balance is what I don’t know as a man....I don’t see all the angles......# my opinion

Inteltower:
and who are you sir ?
do you know that I can by the spirit inflict you with a deadly disease ?

because I know the only one I fear
you don't know me and my conscience is clear if you dare me you will see.
don't forget the power of the Holy spirit you accuser of God

Inteltower:
you fool, be mindful of what you say about God.
if you don't have understanding stop displaying your pathetic ignorance.
He is God and if he demands Satan in his presence Satan will obey (See the book of job)
didn't he use Israelites enemies from time to time to punish them (Egypt, Rome, etc)
you fool for both evil and good things/beings he can use; Isn't he God ? (See book of revelations about the four horse men)
didn't he send the angel of death to kill every first born male in Egypt ?
didn't he send a lying spirit to an Israelite king who surrounded himself with many prophets
didn't he send the 10 plagues to Egypt
or destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah ?

you ignorant fool am asking you isn't he God ?
if you were a god in his shoes how will you punish mankind for their sinful ways ?

answer this and find the truth
do not attract God's wrath with shallow ignorance that fly out of your mouth


gosh some peoples understanding are really wack and darkened that they snare their souls for condemnation

Lord forgive me I can't stand fools that are not looking for truth but argument like the Pharisees.