joseph1013:
If you think life is so complex it must have a designer, how did you identify the designer? How did you search for it?

joseph1013:
"...Personally I like the idea of descending not from brutal world-conquerors, but from insignificant people who seldom poked their noses into other people’s business.

Many religions praise the value of humility – but then imagine themselves to be the most important thing in the universe. They mix calls for personal meekness with blatant collective arrogance. Humans of all creeds would do well to take humility more seriously.

And among all forms of humility, perhaps the most important is to have humility before God. Whenever they talk of God, humans all too often profess abject self-effacement, but then use the name of God to lord it over their brethren."

~Yuval Harari Noah

Lessons for the 21st Century.

A bold sub!

LordReed:


This! Since waking up from the lull of religion, the false humility of religions has never been more clear. They preach humility with their mouths but value superiority with their hearts. I am not surprised I felt so conflicted as a believer, this could drive a sane person crazy reconciling this bullshit.

Maximus69:


That's why i told you that apart from Jehovah's Witnesses organization, everyone on earth are ATHEISTS!

The only difference is smarter atheists capitalize on the gullibility of their fellow atheist to extort money and other valuables from them.

Humility is not when you're setting standards for others, not when you're picking the standards that favour you while others are at the loosing end, not cherry picking rules and expecting others to follow religious dogmas.

Humility is making a thorough research to ascertain the source of wisdom that will benefit all concerned and pointing to it each time people notice how wise you are!
If you're humble,you won't be addressed as Pastor (teacher for divine wisdom) {Matthew 23:8} because you also learnt what you know from somewhere! 1Corinthians 4:7

LordReed:


You are a prime example of this fake humility. This is not the first time I will tell you that.

Maximus69:


To prove what you said, you need to first define HUMILITY.

Remember it's not to be construed with STUPIDITY or TIMIDITY.

So that you won't end up labelling a sheep as wolf all because it got annoyed and hit you with it's horn!

LordReed:


If you can make ATHEISM mean anything you like, then I expect you to do it with any word you attempt to define. Thus there is no point in discussing meaning of words with you.

Maximus69:


You are claiming atheist but you don't know the real spirit behind your faculty!

There are various groups with divers thoughts all claiming ATHEISTS.

I am a Christian and i can tell you the only thing binding all this groups as one body. Each person don't want anyone to tell him what to do, they will not obey without force. That's why all of you are demanding to see God first before considering obedience to his word.

So ATHEISM simply means the faculty of students who believe in FORCE instead of willingly submitting to directions, what baffles me is how you people complain about evild around you, yet you detest submission!

You can define HUMILITY Sir. Even if Maximus69 refused to accept your definition, there are other followers who will know whether you get it right or just arguing blindly, after all your faculty never said one person should submit to the idea of the other, you people only argue and argue amongst you while those listening will just clap to say thank you for speaking grammar all through without setting any principle after the long argument!

LordReed:


Bwahahahahaha! Claiming to know what you don't certainly isn't humble. LMFAO!

Maximus69:

Well i've presented my own understanding of it, and it's only by proving my definition wrong that you can convince people that it's not so, NOT just saying it's not so!

Meanwhile humility is evident when you come out openly to say how you discern what is happening around you, it's when you are able to prove it's not so and the other person started arguing blindly, it's other followers that will notice who is not humble!

LordReed:


You claim to know about being an atheist more than an atheist, that is conceit and a conceited person is not humble. So you continue to prove your humility is false.

Maximus69:


My friend, you are really funny!

When i told you that there is only one organization of Christians "Jehovah's Witnesses" you argued that since all those religionists are claiming Christians, they're Christians. That's when i realized that you are a prideful novice who don't want to learn!

After chatting with you for about two days, i concurred that you are truly an ATHEIST, NOT by your claim but by your attitude!

So true Christians don't just agree with the assertions people make, we observe their thoughts.

An ATHEIST is a person who defies all forms of concordance with the idea that doesn't go down well with his own selfish motives, he won't come out openly to set rules for others but if someone goes closer to him he will begin setting his own standard for such a person. You've proved to be so permissive to the extent of saying there is nothing evil in what can harm people, all because you want to remain on your path as an atheist!

I've also noticed believers (those who want to trust and be trusted) who are claiming atheists, they'll try to ascertain standards that should be agreed upon by one and all. But because your faculty have brainwashed them to think that there shouldn't be any superior intelligent being to set standards, you'll notice how disturbed they are due to the current disorder in the human society, yet they can not agree that there must be an invisible force binding people as one to obey simple and beneficial rules "GOD".

So i agree that you are an ATHEIST by your deeds, but there are billions other atheists out there claiming Christians and there are countless prospective believers in your faculty claiming atheists.

LordReed:


Again and again you prove your conceit. Where did I say "there is nothing evil in what can harm people"? You just assume so much rubbish in your bid to show yourself wise. Your conceit must be flooding out of the very pores of your skin.

Maximus69:


My friend you are dealing with a Christian!

So don't expect your comments to go unnoticed, we can read the remaining part that's hidden in your heart through what you typed! Hebrew 4:12

You can deceive inexperienced ones not Christians Sir!

LordReed:


Conceit. Show where I said so or you are a liar.

Maximus69:


You know the time has passed for name calling. So let the sleeping dog lie!

If you want us to proceed you can answer these questions.

Would you personally approve

©Gay rights?
©Lesbianism?
©Pedophilia?
©Bestiality?

Please state your reasons whether YES or NO.

Let's read your heart from there perhaps you can be a useful adult in the society that is worth emulating!

So you're free to continue the discussion or back off, it's a free world!

LordReed:


You don't get to dodge, either I said "there is nothing evil in what can harm people" or you lied. My opinions on the matters you listed out is very much still accessible to everyone so you need to show where I said "there is nothing evil in what can harm people",

Maximus69:


Thanks! since you can't proceed, case is closed!

LordReed:


Yes it is clear you are a conceited liar. Case Closed.

Maximus69:


Your PERSONAL opinion though!

LordReed:


So now we add fake to liar and you are nothing but a fake arse liar.

joseph1013:
"...Personally I like the idea of descending not from brutal world-conquerors, but from insignificant people who seldom poked their noses into other people’s business.

Many religions praise the value of humility – but then imagine themselves to be the most important thing in the universe. They mix calls for personal meekness with blatant collective arrogance. Humans of all creeds would do well to take humility more seriously.

And among all forms of humility, perhaps the most important is to have humility before God. Whenever they talk of God, humans all too often profess abject self-effacement, but then use the name of God to lord it over their brethren."

~Yuval Harari Noah

Lessons for the 21st Century.

A bold sub!

OkCornel:


Currently reading Yuval Harari Noah’s books;

1) Homo sapiens

2) Homo Deus.


Very insightful and myth destroying books.

OkCornel:


Currently reading Yuval Harari Noah’s books;

1) Homo sapiens

2) Homo Deus.


Very insightful and myth destroying books.

joseph1013:


Great books. The third in the sequence is 21 Lessons for the 21st Century.

joseph1013:


Great books. The third in the sequence is 21 Lessons for the 21st Century.

gensteejay:

Please, do you have the soft copies? I would love to read them as well.