72Morale:
No matter how stubborn and wise you think you are; Don't ever go against tradition and against your family wishes once it has to do with marriage.

Love isn't even one of the top 5 things to consider in marriage because it's just a self-deceptive word that does not contribute anything to a marriage.

What? Are you crazy? So you could marry for marrying sake and not for love? Wow!

Neroiam:


FYI.. Nod' (נוד) is the Hebrew root of the verb 'to wander' (לנדוד). The implication is that Cain, being in disgrace, was sent to wander aimlessly.
He wandered east of Eden.

Attend Bible school and learn how to read the bible.. No b ordinary storybook...

From your own deductions, one can say you mean God created other men and women.
Why didn't He take a woman alongside and had to create Eve from Adam if male and female he created them all as you mean it.

Romans 5:12
Therefore, just as through one man sin entered into the world, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men, because all sinned.

The above verse refers to the Adamic sin.. Psalms 51:5 - Behold, I was shapen in iniquity; and in sin did my mother conceive me.

Job 15:14-16 - What [is] man, that he should be clean? and [he which is] born of a woman, that he should be righteous?

1cor 15:45 ..So it is written: "The first man Adam became a living being"; the last Adam, a life-giving spirit.

The last Adam is Jesus Christ, saviour of mankind and He descended from Adam.

The rest men and women you say God created, it means their offsprings are not guilty of the adamic sin na.. It means the bible is wrong saying " For all have sinned and fallen short of the Glory of God''

Like I said. Am not here to pick up bible school with u. All u are saying is One man sin came to the world bla bla bla
Muslim don't believe in ur Christ does that make their sins not covered on the cross?
The garden of Eden was special in God's creation. Bible said "and he took man and place him in the garden " u cannot take someone from the room and place him in the same room.
Also Bible said " made him male and female and ask them to be fruitful and multiply even before Adam was given a wife. OGA I don't have to tell u more. I am in Genesis just explaining to u and u are busy referring me to New testament and yet there is no where it has said "God made Adam and Eve only. Don't just be dogmatic.

einsteine:


How's somebody that's merely from your village, close family?

Jews practice cousin marriage

I don't understand all these people. I don't think some people know the meaning of "sister", "sibling" or "cousins".
One even said it's incest to marry from your village

Dizzyrascal:
I dey tell you!!!....in the first place how can everybody from the same village be considered brothers and sisters

Dont mind them. Wan use dia own spoil oir own...

As long as she is not related to you by blood in any way, go ahead! Follow your heart. You should not allow ANYONE to dictate to you who to marry!

There are stupid traditions that have no place in today's society. There was a time Igbos killed twins because they thought it would bring them misfortune! Missionaries ended most of these stupid and barbaric traditions.

Marry your love now. Your family will come around later.

Neroiam:


Check this



This guy thinks differently. He insinuates God created other men and women.. So you might be from them.. It means we all don't share a common ancestor..

Am not thinking differently. Is just a fact that are not being explained by our so called men of God. Although, it is a mystery, the only link that got us ALL connected is the Noah and his family that remained after the destruction of the world. However, the linking was evident in Abraham marrying his step sister Sarah and Isaac marrying his cousin Rebecca. Also, Esau married his distance cousin in Egypt ie the daughter of Ismail, the first son of Abraham. In fact, Rebecca hated Esau more because of picking his wife from that family. Now after the birth of the children of Esau, the division became glare because his sons eg Moab the first son ( later Persians and present day Iran declared that he will pay his cousins the children of Jacob back for what their father did to their own father.

Hey bro, listen, as an igbo guy, same thing happened to me.

I met a girl last year and we fell in love, last year Christmas I was making enquiries from my father about the girls village and he blatantly told me we can't marry from that village that we are the same blood. Based on olden days migration. .

So I informed the babe and asked her to also inquire from her dad, she did and her dad said the same things.

So, the babe understood and we went solo.

A guy that did that against all odds later went mad with the girl after their wedding.

So, bro, igbo tradition is real no matter the level of churches around.

Marry that babe and your ancestors will serve you the best punishment that suits your stubbornness

nnaeyes6:



Like I said. Am not here to pick up bible school with u. All u are saying is One man sin came to the world bla bla bla
Muslim don't believe in ur Christ does that make their sins not covered on the cross?
The garden of Eden was special in God's creation. Bible said "and he took man and place him in the garden " u cannot take someone from the room and place him in the same room.
Also Bible said " made him male and female and ask them to be fruitful and multiply even before Adam was given a wife. OGA I don't have to tell u more. I am in Genesis just explaining to u and u are busy referring me to New testament and yet there is no where it has said "God made Adam and Eve only. Don't just be dogmatic.

Na u dey dogmatic sticking to Genesis alone.. Study vast.

Muslims are ignorant and will be judged.

And you don't have to say more.. Just reread all I've said i come to the understanding that male and female, He created them all isn't males and females he created them all if that would even help your understanding.

Bro.
Think about this, how old did men live until they bite the dust in the days of Seth and even down to Abraham?

Or don't you know how many great great grand children Adam would have had during the 930yrs he lived!!!?

And that one of the daughter offsprings had married Cain? And Cain wouldn't have known this because he wandered away!!?

Wisdom..

72Morale:
No matter how stubborn and wise you think you are; Don't ever go against tradition and against your family wishes once it has to do with marriage.

Love isn't even one of the top 5 things to consider in marriage because it's just a self-deceptive word that does not contribute anything to a marriage.

Please what are the first 5 things to consider biko

Dsweetnigga:
Hey bro, listen, as an igbo guy, same thing happened to me.

I met a girl last year and we fell in love, last year Christmas I was making enquiries from my father about the girls village and he blatantly told me we can't marry from that village that we are the same blood. Based on olden days migration. .

So I informed the babe and asked her to also inquire from her dad, she did and her dad said the same things.

So, the babe understood and we went solo.

A guy that did that against all odds later went mad with the girl after their wedding.

So, bro, igbo tradition is real no matter the level of churches around.

Marry that babe and your ancestors will serve you the best punishment that suits your stubbornness

Lmao... Africans and fetish.. So na ancestors create you na.. Abi?
Why you no dey worship una deity since you sabi fear well well so..

One day, all this stupid traditions will be long forgotten

nnaeyes6:

Am not thinking differently. Is just a fact that are not being explained by our so called men of God. Although, it is a mystery, the only link that got us ALL connected is the Noah and his family that remained after the destruction of the world. However, the linking was evident in Abraham marrying his step sister Sarah and Isaac marrying his cousin Rebecca. Also, Esau married his distance cousin in Egypt ie the daughter of Ismail, the first son of Abraham. In fact, Rebecca hated Esau more because of picking his wife from that family. Now after the birth of the children of Esau, the division became glare because his sons eg Moab the first son ( later Persians and present day Iran declared that he will pay his cousins the children of Jacob back for what their father did to their own father.

Oh! So you know Sarah was the step sister of Abraham..
Terah, Abraham's father was an idolater.. Confirm babalawo, why Abraham ancestors no make am mad na?

Now, we're talking of a village that maybe has more than 5000+ people(residents or in diaspora) people are saying they're are all siblings...
If it can't be traced that they're are related by blood, Op, go ahead and marry her. Period.
If you're serving God, no fucking ancestor go near you.
You'll excel and people will envy you. It'll serve as a lesson to many and will be talked about by generations to come.

Mandem12:
....my father told me I can't marry her because she was from the same village with me and thereby related by blood thereby marrying her is an abomination.

Why is Igbo tradition this way?

Which Igbo tradition? My parents are of the same village.

Find out how you two are related.

Listen to advise. Weigh them well. But take your decision.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUbdkkltXRk

Neroiam:


Lmao... Africans and fetish.. So na ancestors create you na.. Abi?
Why you no dey worship una deity since you sabi fear well well so..

One day, all this stupid traditions will be long forgotten

Tradition can't be swept away in igbo land

Dsweetnigga:


Tradition can't be swept away in igbo land

This one na stupid tradition... Shay they used to dance juju in one community i once lived, gradually, the people were enlightened to know they were only inviting more evil spirits to the community.. Now they've stopped and are doing better than before.

#sweepawaystupidtradition

Mandem12:
I had to open a new account for this, pardon me for Punctuation errors. I have to go straight to the point so as not to bore you... My story goes thus

I'm a young man of 25. I met this very beautiful girl, aged 23 now, we've dated 4 years now. She's so humble, the love grew out of nowhere. She does everything a woman would do for a man and I do everything a man will do for a woman.

I found myself not doing anything without her and she cannot do anything without involving me, we actually love each other very much.

She started pestering me to have a blood oath with her because she was scared I would leave her. I laughed it off cos I knew I wouldn't cheat on her, she is everything I wanted in a woman.

Trouble started when I brought her home to meet my parents, I was actually happy that I had found my wife...

When she left, my father asked me where she was from, and I told him and my father told me I can't marry her because she was from the same village with me and thereby related by blood thereby marrying her is an abomination that she was my sister so to say and said our kinsmen would not be Involved if I insist on marrying her... I felt my world crumbling down like a pack of cards...

I told my girl and she was like, it's an old tradition and nobody will dictate to her who she would marry and she loves me and there was no going back...

As a man, I thought about it and wanted to let her go because I wouldn't want the stigma to be on us and my unborn kids... I showed her some attitude to make her hate me but she didn't, rather she would rather beg me not to leave her even when I'm at fault. I feel bad anytime I do anything to hurt her feelings...

Now, I actually want to get her pregnant and damn the consequences, do a court wedding if the need arises and relocate with her out from our state and start a new life elsewhere...

Another mind is telling me to let her go so we can move on with our lives, or even be a fugitive for her... I however know she will hurt herself if I leave her... I'm very confused about everything, I seriously need help... Why is Igbo tradition this way? I found love with this girl, now everything is about to be stripped away from me, just like that... I seriously need an advice please...

I love this girl so much and she make me happy


Please move this to front page so I can hear from others please...

Ogbeni... Na your mama born am?
When you were growing up with your siblings, was she among them?

If your answer is no, then she is not your sister... Ride on

Justdogood:
This is incest.Go for prayers as you have been sleeping with you distant cousin. Maybe 4th or 5th generation cousin.

It's the culture that defines the degree of closeness within which a valid marriage cannot occur. My parents are from the same village, yet the OP cannot marry this girl because she is from the same village as him. It's culture, not necessarily GOD.

priscaoge:
My Dear incest is NEVER accepted anywhere even in the Bible.

You don't read your Bible, or you're being mischievous. The only incest form not permitted is first-line: father-daughter, mother-son, son-daughter, and the like. Any other stuff is permissible.

michlins:
Where on Earth is incest okay.

According to the passage, they are of the same village. Is that what makes it incest?

charlsecy:
It's the culture that defines the degree of closeness within which a valid marriage cannot occur. My parents are from the same village, yet the OP cannot marry this girl because she is from the same village as him. It's culture, not necessarily GOD.

You don't read your Bible, or you're being mischievous. The only incest form not permitted is first-line: father-daughter, mother-son, son-daughter, and the like. Any other stuff is permissible.

According to the passage, they are of the same village. Is that what makes it incest?

some villages are large and diverse. Like the town I live in, there are neighbors who can marry but they can't marry someone from next village. In this situation,some migrated into this town and even though they claim to be indigenes,when it comes to marriage and chieftaincy, they will remind you your place.

MorataFC:
even if that tradition is against God?

Which of the God because the last time I checked, there are over 4,000 religions on earth.

If over 4,000 religion exist, then there will be millions of traditions out there.

So tell us which one?

I know its not easy,but you have to let her go.

Mandem12:
I had to open a new account for this, pardon me for Punctuation errors. I have to go straight to the point so as not to bore you... My story goes thus

I'm a young man of 25. I met this very beautiful girl, aged 23 now, we've dated 4 years now. She's so humble, the love grew out of nowhere. She does everything a woman would do for a man and I do everything a man will do for a woman.

I found myself not doing anything without her and she cannot do anything without involving me, we actually love each other very much.

She started pestering me to have a blood oath with her because she was scared I would leave her. I laughed it off cos I knew I wouldn't cheat on her, she is everything I wanted in a woman.

Trouble started when I brought her home to meet my parents, I was actually happy that I had found my wife...

When she left, my father asked me where she was from, and I told him and my father told me I can't marry her because she was from the same village with me and thereby related by blood thereby marrying her is an abomination that she was my sister so to say and said our kinsmen would not be Involved if I insist on marrying her... I felt my world crumbling down like a pack of cards...

I told my girl and she was like, it's an old tradition and nobody will dictate to her who she would marry and she loves me and there was no going back...

As a man, I thought about it and wanted to let her go because I wouldn't want the stigma to be on us and my unborn kids... I showed her some attitude to make her hate me but she didn't, rather she would rather beg me not to leave her even when I'm at fault. I feel bad anytime I do anything to hurt her feelings...

Now, I actually want to get her pregnant and damn the consequences, do a court wedding if the need arises and relocate with her out from our state and start a new life elsewhere...

Another mind is telling me to let her go so we can move on with our lives, or even be a fugitive for her... I however know she will hurt herself if I leave her... I'm very confused about everything, I seriously need help... Why is Igbo tradition this way? I found love with this girl, now everything is about to be stripped away from me, just like that... I seriously need an advice please...

I love this girl so much and she make me happy


Please move this to front page so I can hear from others please...

Shibabrata Pattanayak: Do you think marriage within blood relations may be harmful to the children or next generations?

Beemnet Mengesha Kassahun (Kyungpook National University): Dear Shibabrata Pattanayak , different studies revealed that children born from parents who were closely related increases the risks of having a baby with potentially life-threatening birth defects.
Marrying within a family can lead to abnormalities in your future offspring. This is because within a family, certain genetic traits remain dormant and are known as recessive genes (they are not seen as a disease or condition).
When two people having the same genes marry and reproduce, these once dormant recessive (ineffective) genes double, making them more likely to cause genetic abnormalities in children.
Although, the fact that people who marry within the second generation are more susceptible is fairly true. But for eg. If your grandfather and parents have had marriages within the family, your children are at greater risk due to the overcrowding of the gene pool.
To explain better, think of it this way. If your grandfather had some recessive genes and he married someone in the family with those same recessive genes i.e. those once dormant genes become dominant (more likely to cause genetic abnormalities). Your parents then got married within the same family making the concentration of these recessive genes even more. Now when you marry someone within your family, this gene pool will further become dense with recessive genes, due to both your genes getting added to the pool, making the possibility of your children having genetic abnormalities very high.

Kulvir Singh
(Punjab Agricultural University):
Well, Genetics forbids that because of more chances of mutations and related disorders.

Azad Singh
(Anjani Pharmaceutical)
Yup there is more chances to genetics disorder.the proper genetic disorder take places.the immune system is also effected and the child become weak...

Hassan Hammadi
(University of Al-Qadisiyah)
Of course yes. A link between cousin marriage and health problems– including heart and lung problems and recognised syndromes such as Down’s – linked to genetic inheritance, has been observed in communities around the world.

Stanley Wilkin
(University of London)
I only know that of the immigrant groups in the UK, those from cultures which commonly practise marriaige with cousins, etc, have greater long term involvement with medical services.

Abdelnaser Omran
(Bright Star University)
Yes, some cases had been proven that such marriage is harmful to the children and the next generation. However, there were few cases had been gone smooth. Overall, such marriage has a high risk and better advice to be avoided.

Arvind Singh
(Banaras Hindu University)
Yes. Marriages within blood relations increses the risk of abortions, congenital anomalies and autosomal recessive disorders. The closer the relationship, the higher the risk.

Neroiam:


Na u dey dogmatic sticking to Genesis alone.. Study vast.

Muslims are ignorant and will be judged.

And you don't have to say more.. Just reread all I've said i come to the understanding that male and female, He created them all isn't males and females he created them all if that would even help your understanding.

Bro.
Think about this, how old did men live until they bite the dust in the days of Seth and even down to Abraham?

Or don't you know how many great great grand children Adam would have had during the 930yrs he lived!!!?

And that one of the daughter offsprings had married Cain? And Cain wouldn't have known this because he wandered away!!?

Wisdom..

Thanks for the time. I hope u will learn more of what u don't know in the bible.
Line by line u should read ur bible for proper understanding and fix all the punctuation marks where they are.
God made the earth by separating the land from the sea and PLANTED a GARDEN called EDEN. God TOOK ADAM. the work TOOK should mean something to u by the way. Taken someone from Lagos to Aba where MALE AND FEMALE were created doesn't mean that life EXISTED only in ABA because stories were told only of ABA.

Bratking:


OP didn't explain it very well but i'm fairy certain he meant his umunna.

in igboland you can marry from your town/village but not from your kindred.

Yeah but surprisingly, some communities forbid marrying even from the same village. I believe that's where he got confused. No one can marry from his umunna? Who are you taking the palmwine to? Your own umunna?

Neroiam:


Oh! So you know Sarah was the step sister of Abraham..
Terah, Abraham's father was an idolater.. Confirm babalawo, why Abraham ancestors no make am mad na?

Now, we're talking of a village that maybe has more than 5000+ people(residents or in diaspora) people are saying they're are all siblings...
If it can't be traced that they're are related by blood, Op, go ahead and marry her. Period.
If you're serving God, no fucking ancestor go near you.
You'll excel and people will envy you. It'll serve as a lesson to many and will be talked about by generations to come.

U are just funny. Did I not say that all his village people are not his blood but he should inquire of his ikwu

nnaeyes6:

Thanks for the time. I hope u will learn more of what u don't know in the bible.
Line by line u should read ur bible for proper understanding and fix all the punctuation marks where they are.
God made the earth by separating the land from the sea and PLANTED a GARDEN called EDEN. God TOOK ADAM. the work TOOK should mean something to u by the way. Taken someone from Lagos to Aba where MALE AND FEMALE were created doesn't mean that life EXISTED only in ABA because stories were told only of ABA.

Na the punctuations be ur problem now? U and all ur grammatical errors, diluted colloquy et al.

You win.. I hope you can stop quoting me now. Thank you.

This man mite be talking about UMMUNNA oh! Is that what u mean by same village?

Mandem12:
He said people from the same village don't marry each other because they're related somehow

U r funny...r u trying to say youthful exuberance?

Reelmii:
youthful exorbitant... continue arguing with ur ancestors very soon u will argue with ur balls

You're right o bruh!
I pray he listens.
Come to think of it, how old is he sef
Youthful exhuberance dey worry am. E think say na just to say I do, drink palmi, dance, wear fine clothes, it beyond that bro

slam7000:


Tell him. Most times when ‘tradition’ or ‘custom’ is mentioned, people tend to see this as fetish, pagan etc...this is actually very good practice that must be sustained.

Marriages amongst my people are preceded by prechecks...no 1 is your blood link. If you are related in anyway no matter how distant, you’ll be advised to stop.

Checks are done on the family, even though this might not stop you from going further but you’ll be advised if there are strong suspicions about the family you intend to marry from. A man was banished from my town ago for murder. He later returned after many years. Someone who wanted to marry the daughter was made aware of these. It was debated but he ended up marrying the lady...his father opposed the marriage initially, his uncle argues that the sins of the father should not be visited on the girl... many argued that there were possibilities of the girl inheriting her dad’s idiosyncrasies and temper...both are happily married today.

Op should listen to his people.

Ramirezkhay:
I just dy read comments since, all those taboo no dy work on their own OP... Na pipu way dy warn you go hide under taboo dy pepper you!

Although voting neither for nor against OP marrying his girl, I am acknowledging that this response is the most matured and the most enlightened submission I have seen in all the postings to this matter. You have got native intelligence and you are street-wise.

FlyingTOMATOE:
sometimes you need to go against tradition in order to find your own joy

Awon inspiration talker

nnaeyes6:

Thanks for the time. I hope u will learn more of what u don't know in the bible.
Line by line u should read ur bible for proper understanding and fix all the punctuation marks where they are.
God made the earth by separating the land from the sea and PLANTED a GARDEN called EDEN. God TOOK ADAM. the work TOOK should mean something to u by the way. Taken someone from Lagos to Aba where MALE AND FEMALE were created doesn't mean that life EXISTED only in ABA because stories were told only of ABA.

Genesis 3:20 ¶ And Adam called his wife's name Eve; because she was the mother of all living.

FlyingTOMATOE:
sometimes you need to go against tradition in order to find your own joy

You are right.