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Re: Mexico Returns Ancient Yoruba Bronze Sculpture To Nigeria by AbuTwins: 12:30pm On Feb 27, 2020
pmoye:
Yes, I do. And he did a good job training me that there's more to life than a loaf of bread and bottle of fanta.

Unfortunately you either didn't have a dad growing up, or you didn't listen to good training, or... Let's stop there.

By the way, how old are you? I hate to be exchanging words with a boy that hasn't been weaned from momma's breasts. That probably explains why you failed to see or understand the significance of cultural heritage.

Now, go suckle some more. Peace out.


This are the uncouth and ill-bred youths we have in this country!
I am a responsible family man and i still do have parents so you know i'm not a boy!

So what is the use of graven images and statues?
Re: Mexico Returns Ancient Yoruba Bronze Sculpture To Nigeria by geosegun(m): 12:37pm On Feb 27, 2020
BanevsJoker:

6th Century AD refers to the 1500s.

Wrong!!! It refers to about 500 to 600yrs After the Death (AD) of Christ.
It clear you guys here just waste time trolling without learning...life is far more than cramming book at wasting time in Social media.
Re: Mexico Returns Ancient Yoruba Bronze Sculpture To Nigeria by PortableToDynam(m): 12:37pm On Feb 27, 2020
THE gods got deported from Mexico
Re: Mexico Returns Ancient Yoruba Bronze Sculpture To Nigeria by Nobody: 12:41pm On Feb 27, 2020
geosegun:


Your assertions was quite wrong. You should also go and re-read prehistoric histories again? During this Period (3,000 yrs ago)? Only the Egyptians have developed similar and related worthy civilisations and most are blacks and mixed races. Roman's were savages during this period.

Human history dates back only abut 6000 years. Now while the Egyptians, Libyans and Ethiopians can trace their history as far back as that with concrete proof, no other balck race can do half as good, except perhaps the ancient kingdom of Mononmatapa

Dating in West Africa is mostly done by the carbon dating system which is not accurate. So when Ooni stands up and says 'His ancestors where digging wells and lining them with steel in ife 5000 years ago na for moth ooo. Nobody kept records any point. The white man brought the dating system to Africa and until he came people counted their age by the number of planting seasons they witnessed, etc. grin
Re: Mexico Returns Ancient Yoruba Bronze Sculpture To Nigeria by adelaja70(m): 12:41pm On Feb 27, 2020
y3mi:
Oh really o defender of son of devil, and why does it have to take that long, and my post for you to come upon that realisation?

Are you aware a lot of half baked nincompoops, in their attempt to appear knowledgeables on this forum spew trash which are considered insult to the intellects of those who actually know.

So once in a while it isn't an unjust thing to do getting back at one out of the many thousands of them miseducating others on this dying platform.
Learn to ignore Bro.... Most especially if none tag,mention or insult you.
Re: Mexico Returns Ancient Yoruba Bronze Sculpture To Nigeria by geosegun(m): 12:41pm On Feb 27, 2020
AbuTwins:


This are the uncouth and ill-bred youths we have in this country!
I am a responsible family man and i still do have parents so you know i'm not a boy!

So what is the use of graven images and statues?

Young man, if.after your tertiary education, that is if you have one? You are still asking such rhetoric questions? Then your acquired degree(s) are questionable.

NB nice and mature response anyway...
Re: Mexico Returns Ancient Yoruba Bronze Sculpture To Nigeria by 0m0nnakoda: 12:42pm On Feb 27, 2020
SonofDevil:
When ooni said ife was the cradle of world civilization people never believed.this sculpture left in the 6 century now we re in 21st century meaning it left ife almost 2000 years ago
Left 2000 years ago?
How do you work that out?
Re: Mexico Returns Ancient Yoruba Bronze Sculpture To Nigeria by Buffalo2(m): 12:44pm On Feb 27, 2020
GOFRONT:
When will they return Abacha loot??
grin
Re: Mexico Returns Ancient Yoruba Bronze Sculpture To Nigeria by 0m0nnakoda: 12:46pm On Feb 27, 2020
SonofDevil:
When ooni said ife was the cradle of world civilization people never believed.this sculpture left in the 6 century now we re in 21st century meaning it left ife almost 2000 years ago
Left 2000 years ago?
How do you work that out?
The sculpture is "from" the 6th century. I believe that refers to its age I.e when it was made and this is usually determined by carbon dating.

I am worried because it seems there is a profound comprehension difficulty here not jus for you but those liking 5his comment
Re: Mexico Returns Ancient Yoruba Bronze Sculpture To Nigeria by 0m0nnakoda: 12:48pm On Feb 27, 2020
SciLab:




Do you have comprehension disabilities?
It was sculptured in the 6th century but was about to be smuggled into Mexico recently but was intercepted by Mexico custom officers. Read properly before beating your ;Dchest like gorilla.

Chest-beating Olodo langido! grin
What bothers me is the number of likes he got for his illiterate remarks
Re: Mexico Returns Ancient Yoruba Bronze Sculpture To Nigeria by Lexusgs430: 12:49pm On Feb 27, 2020
Wetin we wan take am do ......... They would simply dump it in the back office .............
Re: Mexico Returns Ancient Yoruba Bronze Sculpture To Nigeria by Nobody: 12:50pm On Feb 27, 2020
GOFRONT:
When will they return Abacha loot??

When our leaders are ready not to reloot it
Re: Mexico Returns Ancient Yoruba Bronze Sculpture To Nigeria by CsRockefeller(m): 12:50pm On Feb 27, 2020
tartar9:
I've never read of anytime an artifact was returned or asked to be returned to the South East.
Our white exploiters through the ages couldn't find anything worth stealing there.

You definitely haven't come across the phrase "Igbo-Ukwu"
Re: Mexico Returns Ancient Yoruba Bronze Sculpture To Nigeria by 0m0nnakoda: 12:52pm On Feb 27, 2020
Lostz:


The sculpture, from the 6th century southwestern Yoruba city of Ife,


the date is talking about the city not the sculpture
The date refers to the sculpture I.e its believed age.
That is not such an onerous comprehension task ,surely.....
Re: Mexico Returns Ancient Yoruba Bronze Sculpture To Nigeria by RedBororo(m): 12:54pm On Feb 27, 2020
Which juju them one return, we never know which one they sick Nigeria since Festac 77 una one join
Re: Mexico Returns Ancient Yoruba Bronze Sculpture To Nigeria by Odianose13(m): 12:55pm On Feb 27, 2020
Donaldoni:
I hope unnecessarily proud Bini/Edo people see this... smiley

Bini/Edo can NEVER be as great as Yoruba!... cool

You lie. This table wey you wan shake so. You will hurt yourself at the end like ..........
Re: Mexico Returns Ancient Yoruba Bronze Sculpture To Nigeria by Nobody: 12:55pm On Feb 27, 2020
0m0nnakoda:

The date refers to the sculpture I.e its believed age.
That is not such an onerous comprehension task ,surely.....
go get refund from your English teacher
Re: Mexico Returns Ancient Yoruba Bronze Sculpture To Nigeria by Sweeetheart(m): 12:56pm On Feb 27, 2020
Corrections:
YORUBA NATION WILL RISE AND SHINE!!!


Amen kaare omo odua tokan tokan
Re: Mexico Returns Ancient Yoruba Bronze Sculpture To Nigeria by bluecircle470: 12:56pm On Feb 27, 2020
SonofDevil:
When ooni said ife was the cradle of world civilization people never believed.this sculpture left in the 6 century now we re in 21st century meaning it left ife almost 2000 years ago

It is 1500 years and not almost 2000 years okay
Re: Mexico Returns Ancient Yoruba Bronze Sculpture To Nigeria by geosegun(m): 12:57pm On Feb 27, 2020
GreenRose22:


Human history dates back only abut 6000 years. Now while the Egyptians, Libyans and Ethiopians can trace their history as far back as that with concrete proof, no other balck race can do half as good, except perhaps the ancient kingdom of Mononmatapa

Dating in West Africa is mostly done by the carbon dating system which is not accurate. So when Ooni stands up and says 'His ancestors where digging wells and lining them with steel in ife 5000 years ago na for moth ooo. Nobody kept records any point. The white man brought the dating system to Africa and until he came people counted their age by the number of planting seasons they witnessed, etc. grin

Well you raised some valid points but please note that if evidences have not been found dating back to that time, it doesn't mean it never happened? Just trying to be objective here..

Please note that the geographical location of Ife, SW and most part of sub saharan Africa is our nemesis. Hence most artefacts weathered and decomposed easily hence leading to the dearth of artefacts for more accurate carbon dating Do you realize that one of the longest strands of DNA was found among the Yorubas indicating one of the oldest hominids in recent times. Also it was discovered recently that traces of DNA of a subgroup of sub humans older than neatherhadals are found in the DNA of Subsaharan Yorubas and Mendes. This clearly tells you something about how old the chosen race is?The igbos also may have artefacts that is old too but the deep rainforest never encourages preservation.

That's a food for thought for you, young lady.

NB: Egypt, Libya and ME are mostly in arid regions Desert) and hence preservation is excellent there...
Re: Mexico Returns Ancient Yoruba Bronze Sculpture To Nigeria by baby124: 1:03pm On Feb 27, 2020
Apollux:

Thanks for clearing that up. And that is 6 century AD and not BC. And that is about right for the period Oduduwa fled the middle east to survive the persecution from the spread of Islam. There is a possibility that this was among the things he took with him when he fled middle east. Or could be something he taught the yoruba people to make when he settled in Ile Ife. The timing is right for such speculations . Besides to our missinformed man, that is just around 1400 years ago.
Shut up! No one in Europe and the rest of the world were as skilled as Yoruba bronze sculptors. Europeans who had travelled the world stealing sculptures were very amazed at the complexity and level of skill. Because the methods were lost they can’t even fully replicate the way Ife heads were made. Oduduwa did not flee from Middle East but from another part of Yorubaland.

Yoruba exported beads to the rest of the world earlier than all these sculptures. Tiny glass beads forged by fire. It is now this big sculpture that is a problem? Don’t undermine the skill of our fore fathers.

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Re: Mexico Returns Ancient Yoruba Bronze Sculpture To Nigeria by 0m0nnakoda: 1:07pm On Feb 27, 2020
Lostz:
go get refund from your English teacher
Stop ridiculing yourself


You cannot bluff your way out

The subject of the sentence is the sculpture not 6th century Ife.
The sentence is simply telling us when and where the sculpture was sculpted
Re: Mexico Returns Ancient Yoruba Bronze Sculpture To Nigeria by dermmy(m): 1:07pm On Feb 27, 2020
BlackfireX:



[s]Keep it there, it is more safer there than here




Probably one of slaves took it there with her .[/s]
Re: Mexico Returns Ancient Yoruba Bronze Sculpture To Nigeria by izibili44: 1:08pm On Feb 27, 2020
is it the loot dey have been returning and the big yahoo men in government office has been sharing
GOFRONT:
When will they return Abacha loot??
Re: Mexico Returns Ancient Yoruba Bronze Sculpture To Nigeria by Nobody: 1:09pm On Feb 27, 2020
0m0nnakoda:
quote author=Lostz post=86999617] go get refund from your English teacher
Stop ridiculing yourself


You cannot bluff your way out

The subject of the sentence is the sculpture not 6th century Ife.
The sentence is simply telling us when and where the sculpture was sculpted
go and read again
Re: Mexico Returns Ancient Yoruba Bronze Sculpture To Nigeria by baby124: 1:10pm On Feb 27, 2020
Dasuks:


Dont get too excited the most prized artifacts from Naija are either medieval Benin bronze works or 2500 year old Nok works.

This is impressive nonetheless. Dont just get carried away.
Yoruba taught Benin to forge Bronze. Oldest sculptures ... have you heard of the Esie sculpture? Igbo Ukwu too..
Re: Mexico Returns Ancient Yoruba Bronze Sculpture To Nigeria by Nobody: 1:11pm On Feb 27, 2020
0m0nnakoda:

Stop ridiculing yourself


You cannot bluff your way out

The subject of the sentence is the sculpture not 6th century Ife.
The sentence is simply telling us when and where the sculpture was sculpted
The sculpture, from the 6th century southwestern Yoruba city of Ife, shows a man wearing woven pants and a hat, sitting with his legs crossed and holding an instrument.
Re: Mexico Returns Ancient Yoruba Bronze Sculpture To Nigeria by Jimbadly: 1:13pm On Feb 27, 2020
tartar9:
I've never read of anytime an artifact was returned or asked to be returned to the South East.
Our white exploiters through the ages couldn't find anything worth stealing there.

I don't blame your useless parents who couldn't afford to send you to school to acquire knowledge and education. This inane comment of yours clearly shows that you've never been in the four walls of a classroom Because if you had basic education, you would have learned about the ancient artifacts from Igbo ukwu in present day Anambra state; stunning artworks with intricate designs way ahead of their time. I am very certain that you do not also know of ancient artifacts from Awka, renowned for their uncanny mastery of iron artworks. Neither are you aware of the ancient artifacts from Arochukwu in present day Abia state, to name but a few.

Your crass ignorance is nauseating. A simple google search would have saved you from making this comment laced with bitterness and drum some sense into your empty skull and those of your fellow tribalistic and hate-filled bigots who gave you those likes on your asinine comment. Bloody bigoted ignoramus.

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Re: Mexico Returns Ancient Yoruba Bronze Sculpture To Nigeria by tyup(m): 1:16pm On Feb 27, 2020
SonofDevil:
When ooni said ife was the cradle of world civilization people never believed.this sculpture left in the 6 century now we re in 21st century meaning it left ife almost 2000 years ago
Re: Mexico Returns Ancient Yoruba Bronze Sculpture To Nigeria by webizone(m): 1:18pm On Feb 27, 2020
tartar9:
I've never read of anytime an artifact was returned or asked to be returned to the South East.
Our white exploiters through the ages couldn't find anything worth stealing there.
Read up on the quest for the revival of nsibidi.
Re: Mexico Returns Ancient Yoruba Bronze Sculpture To Nigeria by 0m0nnakoda: 1:19pm On Feb 27, 2020
Lostz:


The sculpture, from the 6th century southwestern Yoruba city of Ife,



the date is talking about the city not the sculpture

Guy

The emboldened is the index quote and according to you it is talking about
Ife

That is really embarrassing.

I am taking my time to do this not because of you but for those with capacity to still learn

The subject of the emboldened text is THE SCULPTURE not IFE

E.g consider the construction

"This police uniform,from the 60s has been replaced by a modern design. "


The subject of the sentence is

THE POLICE UNIFORM

not


The 60s

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