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| Re: 5G Network: Can It Cause Cancer or COVID-19? by mrphysics(op): 3:03pm On Apr 05, 2020 |
canDy4eva:kkk |
| Re: 5G Network: Can It Cause Cancer or COVID-19? by Mistaicey2288: 3:04pm On Apr 05, 2020 |
AureliusWolf:The way you easily assume things truly shows how stupid and dumb you truly are. This same you first passed your message with an insult by telling me how uneducated i am and also went as far as saying i should seek for a refund of my past Paid fees. And when i told you idiot the level of my education you started spewing trash again about me bragging about it like it's some phenomenal achievement... Also, another assumption you nitwit keeps jumping to is where i got my source from. Which WhatsApp Voicenote are you talking about if i may ask you dummy? The more you try yo show how intelligent you are, the more stupid and shallow minded you sound. Get a life punkass! |
| Re: 5G Network: Can It Cause Cancer or COVID-19? by Jelzin2412(m): 3:04pm On Apr 05, 2020 |
mrphysics:Excellent...Thank you and I hope people learn and stop this ridiculous conspiracy theory... |
| Re: 5G Network: Can It Cause Cancer or COVID-19? by ThinkFreely: 3:06pm On Apr 05, 2020 |
Seunn11:Does visible light waves also excite food particles? Knowing that visible light has higher frequency than radiowave and microwave? |
| Re: 5G Network: Can It Cause Cancer or COVID-19? by sonnie10: 3:07pm On Apr 05, 2020 |
mrphysics:@ at Uranium, lol. Even nuclear radioactive capsules used in Nuclear medicine is highly guarded and totally accounted for. Some comments here are so ridiculous. Do they think a robust and powerful organization like international atomic energy would sit around and watch people mess around with these things? |
| Re: 5G Network: Can It Cause Cancer or COVID-19? by Sirwallace(m): 3:08pm On Apr 05, 2020 |
hajide:And doctors told them the radiation is responsible for their sickness. And who the fvck take a vaccine for radiation. If you actually know the effect of radiation on human body, you will not spool what you just said. What kind of height of ignorance is this? |
| Re: 5G Network: Can It Cause Cancer or COVID-19? by Seunn11: 3:09pm On Apr 05, 2020 |
Friend22:Can you explain the need for close proximity of the 5G towers? |
| Re: 5G Network: Can It Cause Cancer or COVID-19? by Dididrumz(m): 3:10pm On Apr 05, 2020 |
mrphysics:Wonderful. Me I'm already tired of trying to debate with people to make them understand that 5G has nothing to do with the novel COVID-19 but Nigerians will not listen. |
| Re: 5G Network: Can It Cause Cancer or COVID-19? by mrphysics(op): 3:10pm On Apr 05, 2020 |
sonnie10:Exactly. If only they know how some of these substances are guarded. When we want to use high radioactive materials, sometimes we wait for it as if it is a powerful person that we are waiting for. Even the least ionizing of them are well protected and properly accounted for let alone uranium and plutonium. Funny comments |
| Re: 5G Network: Can It Cause Cancer or COVID-19? by Sergioaguero: 3:12pm On Apr 05, 2020 |
As far I am concerned, if you graduated in ur dept Nigeria, you are atheorist, you might ve not seen wat u re xalculating on real life, |
| Re: 5G Network: Can It Cause Cancer or COVID-19? by alimaa: 3:12pm On Apr 05, 2020 |
Skyfornia:You are also one of those insulting others on this forum |
| Re: 5G Network: Can It Cause Cancer or COVID-19? by Seunn11: 3:13pm On Apr 05, 2020 |
ThinkFreely:Have you ever heard that you should not drink water from plastic bottle already exposed to sun? Have you? Why do you think they said that?? Even when you as a person is also exposed to the same sun. It is all because of the ease with which polymers ionize in presence of various radiations! |
| Re: 5G Network: Can It Cause Cancer or COVID-19? by YoungBlackRico(m): 3:16pm On Apr 05, 2020 |
Mistaicey2288:Let it go already... Are you that pained? |
| Re: 5G Network: Can It Cause Cancer or COVID-19? by mrphysics(op): 3:19pm On Apr 05, 2020 |
Seunn11:In health and radiation studies, they are two effects that Ionizing Radiations (IR) will have on you. It is deterministic effect (It happens instantly and it's latency appear in days or months after exposure. I will send a picture of a radiation injury. In Deterministic effect, it is known that severity increases with dose. The second is stochastic effect, and it doesn't occur immediately. It takes time to manifest. It is known that frequency increases with the dose. When you are in close proximity with IR or say EMF radiations consistently for a long time, you are bound to experience stochastic effect which may manifest in years time. So you should be bothered about the stochastic effect of subjecting yourself under such radiations. But since it is even non ionizing, it's not been proven that someone has experienced any effect due to it. We are constantly under the Sun with powerful UV radiations. |
| Re: 5G Network: Can It Cause Cancer or COVID-19? by Mistaicey2288: 3:21pm On Apr 05, 2020 |
YoungBlackRico:Issokay ![]() |
| Re: 5G Network: Can It Cause Cancer or COVID-19? by mrphysics(op): 3:22pm On Apr 05, 2020 |
Seunn11:Same way microwave does not pose any risk but when you place it on some materials that are not microwave compatible, they ionize it and form radicals. You are struggling too hard to prove the simple fact that 5G does not pose any risk to anyone as it does not ionize the least particle in terms of mass -electrons. |
| Re: 5G Network: Can It Cause Cancer or COVID-19? by ehardetola(m): 3:23pm On Apr 05, 2020 |
[quote author=Skyfornia post=88112694]SMH... I have noticed with increase how some certain people on this forum abuse other individuals whose views are contrary to their own belief or dogma instead of expressing their arguments in a more mature and reasonable way. A journey through some of their previous comments you will also notice that some of these abusers are Atheists and people addicted to hard substances. You go about pouring out your vituperations on every thread, creating nuisance and getting supports from your kinds...for your mind you feel say you be James Bond. Now to the business of the day.. Some of you believe that some radiations can can attack a cell in human body. You believe that consistent usage of x-ray machines can cause harm to the body. You uses phones that recognizes your thumb, eyes and face and respond instantly. You've seen or believe there's a technology that detects when someone lied. Yet you find it difficult to believe that a technology such as 5G is harmful to humans or cannot have negative effects to a human body? Now I'm not saying that I have a proof of it's danger but the possibility cannot be neglected. Your claim is that 5G is a non-ionizing radiation yet ultraviolet rays, Microwave which also are among the non-ionizing radiation are reported in most cases to be harmful to humans and animals. Chinese, the originators of 5G are busy destroying the masts and you are inside your small village abusing and cussing them. Your colonial masters are determined to destroy all 5G programs in their territories, and you that studied physics in one local university in Nigeria is out here exposing your ignorance. I weep for you.[/quote Cool down man... Time will tell if is theory is correct or not. |
| Re: 5G Network: Can It Cause Cancer or COVID-19? by Seunn11: 3:23pm On Apr 05, 2020 |
mrphysics:You have not explained the need for close proximity of the so called 5G towers!!! My point to use is that you should not be too naive. |
| Re: 5G Network: Can It Cause Cancer or COVID-19? by mrphysics(op): 3:24pm On Apr 05, 2020 |
Sirwallace: some of them have not even seen a radiation caused injury |
| Re: 5G Network: Can It Cause Cancer or COVID-19? by mrphysics(op): 3:27pm On Apr 05, 2020 |
Seunn11:I did already, as usual, you don't want to believe it ![]() Here in France for instance, the background dose rate is about 4.5mSv. Same dose rate that people around the Fukushima region refused to go back to. But here, everyone is enjoying their life, even under such low dose rate. You should be talking about the ionizing radiation those that frequently take flights are under? Those should be your major concern and not the harmless 5G frequency. |
| Re: 5G Network: Can It Cause Cancer or COVID-19? by Maestro21: 3:29pm On Apr 05, 2020 |
Skyfornia:The information he gave is even inaccurate. As soon as I saw 5 G is 5 Giga Hertz, I stopped reading. |
| Re: 5G Network: Can It Cause Cancer or COVID-19? by YoungBlackRico(m): 3:30pm On Apr 05, 2020 |
Mistaicey2288:I'm sorry, really...for the insults. |
| Re: 5G Network: Can It Cause Cancer or COVID-19? by ThinkFreely: 3:31pm On Apr 05, 2020 |
Seunn11:Yeah, that’s not because of visible light, that’s because of UV light that can split water molecule in it H+ and OH- ions Radiowaves cannot ionize molecules. The frequency is just too low |
| Re: 5G Network: Can It Cause Cancer or COVID-19? by Maestro21: 3:33pm On Apr 05, 2020 |
mrphysics:You did not give any proofs. If you had proofs, you will bring solid scientific proofs from a myriad of peer-reviewed papers from reputable journals and then allow people to constructively analyse it and present rebuttals. The head of the FCC in the USA was asked questions about this same 5 G and the associated health hazards. His response was that he could not rule it out, research was still being done and when he was pressed harder, that he had no answer. This is the Director of the agency that is commissioned to regulate the telecommunications sector in the USA. But someone on NL, wrote conjectures and is trying to pass it off as proof. LOOL |
| Re: 5G Network: Can It Cause Cancer or COVID-19? by Kachi11061998(m): 3:33pm On Apr 05, 2020 |
mrphysics:The truth is 5G emit Radiation that Oscillate Simple pendulum which will activate redox reaction resulting to Combustion furthermore diffusion and Osmosis will be put in motion , anyway if you have been reading this my comment to this Point, then is simply Sit at home resultant consequence that formed those scientific vocabulary I used... |
| Re: 5G Network: Can It Cause Cancer or COVID-19? by DonroxyII: 3:34pm On Apr 05, 2020 |
mrphysics:Thanks !! |
| Re: 5G Network: Can It Cause Cancer or COVID-19? by AureliusWolf: 3:35pm On Apr 05, 2020 |
Mistaicey2288: Hahaha, You are still crying...Anyway, I stand by everything I said earlier, because you still manage to find new ways to prove them right, painfully...all these your tears can't fill a chalice, same way you and your sources are just a bunch of rumor mongering dumbells, so move along please.
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| Re: 5G Network: Can It Cause Cancer or COVID-19? by benji93: 3:40pm On Apr 05, 2020 |
Well said, although the energy per photon may be low as you suggested. There are elastic waves called Phonons that manifest as vibrations in materials. We know Photon energy can be converted into Phonon energy. As such the question you should ask yourself is, is ionization the only way materials can be made to change their behavior? The physics of metals tells us that the electrons are delocalized and require very little energy to start moving around. Although the biological materials the body is made of are neither purely metallic, insulating nor semi-conducting, they do exhibit some metallic, semiconducting and insulating behavior, to different degrees, which may vary at a particular part of the body at different times. If that's the case, moving the electrons around often than not may constitute a problem, especially because the frequencies are concentrated around our bodies. Also given that different parts of a given part of the body may consist of different biological materials, there's no telling how phonon energy could affect the vibration of different parts of that part. Usually, when i place my phone in my back pocket, i feel so uncomfortable with the heat, that I usually have to put it elsewhere. The long and short of it is that, although ionization radiations are dangerous, especially because they are immediate, there's no telling how dangerous non-ionizing radiations are in this context, in the long run, especially if they activate a chain of irreversible processes in the body, especially because of the complex nature of the biological material composition of our body. The arguments I have made are just some perspectives, there could be others. The effect of these radiations on biological materials is something we are still learning about. Thus, while you may be correct in your assertion that the 5G frequencies are no ionization radiations, ignoring the other ramifications is a problem. mrphysics: |
| Re: 5G Network: Can It Cause Cancer or COVID-19? by hajide(m): 3:40pm On Apr 05, 2020 |
Sirwallace:Hello Mr. scientist, how many tests have you conducted in your career if may ask, and what observations have you been able to come by with regard to this particular subject? All this keyboard scientists sef...smh |
| Re: 5G Network: Can It Cause Cancer or COVID-19? by gawu1: 3:40pm On Apr 05, 2020 |
mrphysics:One wonder when and where he carried out survey or research to arrive at authoritative assertion as below: ''l'm only saying since this same 5g is for the people and the people don't trust it in these perilous time when all we want is just to breathe then it should be discontinued till this outbreak is fully contained'' Very unfounded statement, indeed Maybe because Dino and ffk said it, so they believe it. The bandwagon thing! |
| Re: 5G Network: Can It Cause Cancer or COVID-19? by Staphylococcus: 3:41pm On Apr 05, 2020 |
mrphysics:Thanks for taking your time to explain. Though have not read comments, I know some lots will still tell say gibberish despite your outlined facts. This is a practical test https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2t1dUCyE0I# |
| Re: 5G Network: Can It Cause Cancer or COVID-19? by Agboriotejoye(m): 3:47pm On Apr 05, 2020 |
sonnie10:I'm not talking about coronavirus. I'm talking about the general effect. All what you have written so far is still theory. You have shown no proof. |
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