Staphylococcus:


"Millimeter waves are electromagnetic (radio) waves typically defined to lie within the frequency range of 30–300 GHz. ... The millimeter-wave band thus corresponds to a wavelength range of 10 mm at 30 GHz decreasing to 1 mm at 300 GHz."


They are also non ionizing but have the capacity to move higher bandwidths at faster rate. The constrain about it is area coverage. Millimeter waves can barely shoot past 100meters and same time have low penetrating power. It can't even go through a a building or glass.

The misinformation about it is that people believe because it delivers much, it's deadly, but it's false...

After you copied the definition from wikipedia, you then added your own that it is non ionizing!
Do you have vested interest?
Did you read from your source (that you didn't cite) that it is extremely high frequency radiation and is between microwave and infrared? And that it can be absorbed by oxygen and water droplets especially in high humid places (like Nigeria. Nigeria has high humidity for greater part of the year. Humidity close to 100%).
What do you think it's effect will be on other substances that humans depend on...things that find their ways into body systems

Jh0wsef:
[s]I wish they could isolate this OP with one of these 5G masts.. When they open the door, even your teeth for don melt finish

Believe it or not. That 5G radiation no be here at all[/s]

You're a dumbass

You're don't learn

mrphysics:
Yeah, it's fine but you have to breathe well. We are all breathing in Nigeria, yet asking the government for amenities that will enable us breathe effectively.

For instance, I am in France, internet seem to be nothing here, telephone calls too, text messages. But in Nigeria, this is not the case. People pay high too for internet but get poor network, data that gets exhausted within hours.

You want us to keep living this way? Can you compare it's risk to the risk of driving from Abuja to Enugu or Lagos? How about the risk of driving from Abuja to Kaduna? Which one poses more risk than the other? 5G or the ones I mentioned?

Bonjour monsieur.
Merci beaucoup.

Oracle23:



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I DONT THINK U UNDERSTOOD MY POST.

Reread again and dont forget to read what I replied to.

The fact that people were fully embracing of 3G and 4G does not mean 5G is equally as harmless that is the point.

Liveair:
The truth is 5G tech is a Trillion Dollar industry for future connected world, where the USA is losing a major market share to China.
So, they are employing western media to vilify China by starting with her largest player, HUAWEI.
Ask yourself, what has virus (micro organism) with wireless tech?
Which virus was associated with 4G and 3G, since wireless transmission now creates viruses?

Am sure its now clear to the world that Sadam Hussein had no weapons of mass destruction - the reason the USA gave for invading Iraq.

Cancer is a virus disease, wireless tech can cause virus but 5G is not in that class.

Seunn11:


After you copied the definition from wikipedia, you then added your own that it is non ionizing!
Do you have vested interest?
Did you read from your source (that you didn't cite) that it is extremely high frequency radiation and is between microwave and infrared? And that it can be absorbed by oxygen and water droplets especially in high humid places (like Nigeria. Nigeria has high humidity for greater part of the year. Humidity close to 100%).
What do you think it's effect will be on other substances that humans depend on...things that find their ways into body systems

He just wants to pretend like he knows what is going on.

Staphylococcus:


What solid proof do I need to give you. Do some work about it and of you have a problem, you can get back.

I can't be running a lab test for you when am not being paid. Incase you might want to patronize my expertise, I can deliver clear cut test results to you.

But what have said was just the actual fact. You have been exposed to more telecoms radiation than you can imagine. It's the only ones you see that you complain about. You have been to enclosures that you even not know what's running, but you just make your calls and burn up data thinking the antenna serving you is far off from you. And it's just right above your head.

LOL

So, you ain't got proofs.

Just as I suspected.

Staphylococcus:


Do you expect radiation to be constant over space? The point is that, as at point of contact, radiation has already dropped. Like your usual WiFi signal... From source, it fades across distance

And note that the single antenna you see covers a vast pie area so it not that it serving only you. Hundreds of users can connect via just that single antenna.

Thanks for this piece. There is even a formular to calculate the relationship between intensity and distance.
I (intensity) is inversely proportional to square distance (d). Where dose (r) from source is constant. It is called inverse square law. This is the first law they teach in radiation physics.

I = r/d^2

Skyfornia:
SMH...

I have noticed with increase how some certain people on this forum abuse other individuals whose views are contrary to their own belief or dogma instead of expressing their arguments in a more mature and reasonable way.

A journey through some of their previous comments you will also notice that some of these abusers are Atheists and people addicted to hard substances.

You go about pouring out your vituperations on every thread, creating nuisance and getting supports from your kinds...for your mind you feel say you be James Bond.

Now to the business of the day..

Some of you believe that some radiations can can attack a cell in human body.

You believe that consistent usage of x-ray machines can cause harm to the body.

You uses phones that recognizes your thumb, eyes and face and respond instantly.

You've seen or believe there's a technology that detects when someone lied.

Yet you find it difficult to believe that a technology such as 5G is harmful to humans or cannot have negative effects to a human body? Now I'm not saying that I have a proof of it's danger but the possibility cannot be neglected.

Your claim is that 5G is a non-ionizing radiation yet ultraviolet rays, Microwave which also are among the non-ionizing radiation are reported in most cases to be harmful to humans and animals.

Chinese, the originators of 5G are busy destroying the masts and you are inside your small village abusing and cussing them.

Your colonial masters are determined to destroy all 5G programs in their territories, and you that studied physics in one local university in Nigeria is out here exposing your ignorance.

I weep for you.

Where do you brew news from.

Smh.... Even in the face of facts, you still have the effrontery to argue. It's pathetic.

I think if we go by your ascertions, we need to destroy all Telecom mast. The radiation is to much. Cos singling out the 5th generation from all other generation is height of foolishness and stupidity. It still going to ride on the 2,3 and 4G band. Just like 3 and 4 is presently doing.

And of I must say, your composition is riddled with big lies

mrphysics:


It will help you because as it stands now, Nigeria does not have enough network to conduct online lectures or even to follow. Most Nigerians depend on big mb and Midnight to be able to make huge download.

If you keep relying on low network such as 4G, you will only be living in the past. Whereas the world is advancing, you guys are drawing us backwards, yet believe most of the magic performed by some fake pastors.

You guys won't stop drawing us backwards yet turn around to blame the government for lack of development.

Even with 20g, Nigeria internet, snail and Baba go the same speed

sonnie10:


Thanks for this piece. There is even a formular to calculate the relationship between intensity and distance.
I (intensity) is inversely proportional to square distance (d). Where dose (r) from source is constant. It is called inverse square law. This is the first law they teach in radiation physics.

Thanks.

You have to make your comments here socially valid to be able to reach out to the very people who don't understand. By the time you starts going physics and formulas, they will remains lost, won't agreed and keep making the same false ascertions.

Once again, Thanks.... Your comment nailed it but they will still argue with you.

Maestro21:


LOL

So, you ain't got proofs.

Just as I suspected.

What proof do you need? In the face of outlined facts, you still need a proof.

Okay, I will do. But you have to proof to me that you are not a robot. I need to be sure you are a living human.

Seunn11:


After you copied the definition from wikipedia, you then added your own that it is non ionizing!
Do you have vested interest?
Did you read from your source (that you didn't cite) that it is extremely high frequency radiation and is between microwave and infrared? And that it can be absorbed by oxygen and water droplets especially in high humid places (like Nigeria. Nigeria has high humidity for greater part of the year. Humidity close to 100%).
What do you think it's effect will be on other substances that humans depend on...things that find their ways into body systems

Absorbed by Oxygen and water

In-between micro wave and infra red.


Where are you reading all this. Not everything you find online is the truth.

Sigh.. I give up.

Staphylococcus:


What proof do you need? In the face of outlined facts, you still need a proof.

Okay, I will do. But you have to proof to me that you are not a robot. I need to be sure you are a living human.

Outlined facts? What outlined facts?

Let me let you in on a little information. I have worked in a world class lab that was funded with about $33M at one point. I have conducted independent research works with ideas stemming from the vicinities of CALTECH and the likes.

I know when a sponsor gives funds and expects the research to validate the answer they want and I know when research is done and whatever answer seen, is adopted.

So please, point me to evidence. Let me study, analyse and learn. Stop trying to give me zobo.

Staphylococcus:


Absorbed by Oxygen and water

In-between micro wave and infra red.


Where are you reading all this. Not everything you find online is the truth.

Sigh.. I give up.

The irony!

mrphysics:

Exactly, harmful radioactive waves come from radioactive sources and not electromagnetic frequencies emitting only photons.

Radioactive waves are usually, alpha, beta, gamma, X-ray or neutrons which are harmful and can even be shielded to some extent depending on the kind of radiation it is.

I was overwhelmed that people could speak authoritatively on things they do not understand.



Cc edidiongmichael, GuestLog (read bro and stop spreading rumour), GboyegaD, jayfolarin, Ofirmee

Sometimes you can do nothing to change a person's believe. They must have heard something else from people they so much believe in and so they can't open up to take a few seconds to reason your own expectations and possibly do a little research on their own.

I believe that we have gotten to the point where we do personal research after hearing about a thing we don't have idea about.

Thank you for the write up, it's educative.

Staphylococcus:


Absorbed by Oxygen and water

In-between micro wave and infra red.


Where are you reading all this. Not everything you find online is the truth.

Sigh.. I give up.

Are you kindergarten? The wave is attenuated by even oxygen and moisture!!

Maestro21:


Outlined facts? What outlined facts?

Let me let you in on a little information. I have worked in a world class lab that was funded with about $33M at one point. I have conducted independent research works with ideas stemming from the vicinities of CALTECH and the likes.

I know when a sponsor gives funds and expects the research to validate the answer they want and I know when research is done and whatever answer seen, is adopted.

So please, point me to evidence. Let me study, analyse and learn. Stop trying to give me zobo.

I didn't ask for a biography.

What evidences do you need? I would have directed you to a building in Lagos where 5G (Millimeter waves) has been playing indoors for over 8months so you can personally go run a test. For confidential reason,, I won't. But the time is almost here when this tech will be fully deployed and you will have the whole atmosphere to do run a test.

I should set up a lab becaise I want to make a point on a faceless forum? Please where is it done.

Seunn11:


Are you kindergarten? The wave is attenuated by even oxygen and moisture!!

You are right.

Please go and sit down with this little theory you learnt. Hear me, it is on big time news the huge effect 5G is going impact on human life if embraced. So go and sleep, Mr physics.

Staphylococcus:


I didn't ask for a biography.

What evidences do you need? I would have directed you to a building in Lagos where 5G (Millimeter waves) has been playing indoors for over 8months so you can personally go run a test. For confidential reason,, I won't. But the time is almost here when this tech will be fully deployed and you will have the whole atmosphere to do run a test.

I should set up a lab becaise I want to make a point on a faceless forum? Please where is it done.

I did not give a biography. I have research background that is my point. I listen to both sides of the divide and follow the one whose evidence is more tangible and pragmatic. That 5G in Lagos story is another zobo. FYI, I am in the USA.

Give me peer-reviewed documents. Give me links from reputable experts without vested interests. Don't set up a lab. LOL

Nothing in life is 100% certain, even those who created the technology are not flawless. There's no ideal system as long as it has to do with mortals. The laws of physics can malfunction. There are so many things that are way beyond human understanding, as long as the 5G was created by humans, there's every possibility it could pose dangers to human life even when there are proven laws of science that say otherwise. Humans didn't create this world and no matter how intelligent any human or group of humans are, there are things they still don't understand. IT'S ONLY GOD THAT IS FLAWLESS, DON'T PUT SO MUCH TRUST ON FORMULAE, THEORIES AND LAWS PUT FORWARD BY HUMANS...... SPIRITUALITY SUPERCEEDS PHYSICALITY.

sonnie10:


There is no way you are going to explain these things that a person who is not willing to learn for him to understand.

At a point during my days at school, the lecturer had to use very simple illustration to explain the effect of radiation on human DNA.

He made us wrote the words CAT, RAT, BAT ( which are the normal spelling for the animal cat, rat and bat). These he told us to consider as the normal nucleotides in the DNA.

Then he showed us what happens when ionizing radiation interacts with this nucleotides.
Mutation or fragmentation could occur, resulting in the letters being rearranged. As an illustration, we then saw how we could now have non existing words like CAA , TAM, RTB when those normal nucleotides are destructed by ionizing radiation. These are precursor to cancers. That is how cancer occurs from exposure to harmful sources of radiation.

In this case, the radio frequency in 5G technology not being an ionizing radiation does not have the short wave property to be absorb by body tissue let alone break the protein bond that binds those nucleotides.

This is the most basic form of a layman’s explanation to the effect of radiation on DNA.

You are right. In radiation protection study, the weight factor (Wr) of a photon and electron is 1. Meaning that for the fact it is photon, it adds absolutely nothing to what was received in the computation of equivalent dose rate (Ht).

And I have been championing that we begin to build Nuclear Power Plant. Very soon, SA will finish their and Ghana will start. Yet our people are not even ready to learn. I am sure, by the time they will want to start a Nuclear Power Plant Project in Nigeria, these people will raise a lot of conspiracy theory.

Maestro21:


I did not give a biography. I have research background that is my point. I listen to both sides of the divide and follow the one whose evidence is more tangible and pragmatic. That 5G in Lagos story is another zobo. FYI, I am in the USA.

Give me peer-reviewed documents. Give me links from reputable experts without vested interests. Don't set up a lab. LOL

You are in the USA. Am sure am delivering services to that phone you are presently using.

Let me rest my case.

YoungBlackRico:
I'm sorry, really...for the insults.

Its all good bro. And I'm sorry too. Happy Palm Sunday

Maestro21:


I did not give a biography. I have research background that is my point. I listen to both sides of the divide and follow the one whose evidence is more tangible and pragmatic. That 5G in Lagos story is another zobo. FYI, I am in the USA.

Give me peer-reviewed documents. Give me links from reputable experts without vested interests. Don't set up a lab. LOL

You said 5G is not in Lagos... You made me laugh. Let me allow you be.

AureliusWolf:

Hahaha, You are still crying...Anyway, I stand by everything I said earlier, because you still manage to find new ways to prove them right, painfully...all these your tears can't fill a chalice, same way you and your sources are just a bunch of rumor mongering dumbells, so move along please.

Once again, go get a life and stop being a Nuisance. Òpònú

kkins25:

everybody is fascinated at the birth of 5g, it is only nigeria that people think it is the devils handwork. my brother; sometimes i feel like in my previous life i was a bad person thats why i was sent to the slums of naija to receive discipline

That might be true bruh

Well I have gone through this thread from the op to all contributions given so far up to this current page, but let me say this to the op you are told what they want you to know and that is general info.... You can't be more knowledgeable than those in China, UK, America and other developed world who have seen the original intent of this development and have decided to put a stop to it....let me share this video with nairaland maybe that Witt drive home some point...if it fails to upload I will share a link.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qWX4w0bDgM

mrphysics:

What a way to think about it. So once a group of rumor mongers and propagators raise the air on anything again, then the government should discontinue it?

What a way to live. How did we get to this point?

Primitiveness

mrphysics:


You are right. In radiation protection study, the weight factor (Wr) of a photon and electron is 1. Meaning that for the fact it is photon, it adds absolutely nothing to what was received in the computation of equivalent dose rate (Ht).

And I have been championing that we begin to build Nuclear Power Plant. Very soon, SA will finish their and Ghana will start. Yet our people are not even ready to learn. I am sure, by the time they will want to start a Nuclear Power Plant Project in Nigeria, these people will raise a lot of conspiracy theory.

Anyone that argues with you regarding the nuclear power plant, ask him to show you any leading world economy that does not have nuclear power plants. Except those constrained by environmental factors like unavailable large body of water.
They thinks Nigeria industry can complete globally by running generators.
They all know why most of our companies ran to Ghana. This same attitude towards infrastructural development.

Maestro21:


You did not give any proofs. If you had proofs, you will bring solid scientific proofs from a myriad of peer-reviewed papers from reputable journals and then allow people to constructively analyse it and present rebuttals.

The head of the FCC in the USA was asked questions about this same 5 G and the associated health hazards. His response was that he could not rule it out, research was still being done and when he was pressed harder, that he had no answer. This is the Director of the agency that is commissioned to regulate the telecommunications sector in the USA.

But someone on NL, wrote conjectures and is trying to pass it off as proof. LOOL

Please don't bring in US because they're playing politics with it the reason President Trump asked England to not subscribe to the 5G. 5G network is not from America hence the hatred.