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Re: Nigerian Imam Converts To Christianity After Hearing the Voice of Jesus by Nobody: 8:57pm On Apr 12, 2020 |
Thanks Sir! shadeyinka: |
Re: Nigerian Imam Converts To Christianity After Hearing the Voice of Jesus by Empiree: 9:10pm On Apr 12, 2020 |
Maximus69:It seems you are humbled small small. Holy Spirit communicated with prophets and non-prophets in history of mankind. But not many of you charlatans today claiming "holy spirit" talk to you yet you are doing different things. Did Holy spirit talk to catholic and it is the same Holy spirit talk protestant yet they have different books? Is it same holy spirit that influenced thast influence self proclaimed "Apostle Paul" who was confused whether he heard God's voice or not?. Ma tan ra e I asked if Muhammad lied about having to deal with Gabriel (spirit).Say (O Muhammad, to mankind): Who is an enemy to Gabriel! For he it is who hath revealed (this Scripture) to thy heart by Allah's leave, confirming that which was (revealed) before it, and a guidance and glad tidings to believers; Q2:97 So i asked you what makes you think he was a prophet?Until you can prove to me how your mom is your mom, then you are wasting your time. |
Re: Nigerian Imam Converts To Christianity After Hearing the Voice of Jesus by Nobody: 9:25pm On Apr 12, 2020 |
Empiree: I never said all these different religinists are all Christians! There is just one TRUE Christian Organization and we don't believe in spirit talking to anyone again now! What we believe is carefully reading the scriptures, thoroughly meditating on what we read and fervent prayers for directions on how to apply what we've got! In fact if anyone walks up to us saying God or holy spirit spoke to him, we'll just walk away from such a person because we're sure nothing beneficial will come from it! But that's apart, the Bible has 40 different writers making it 40 Witnesses testifying to what was written in it and they were all from the same race (Israel) Whereas the Qur'an has just one single Witness standing alone claiming a spirit revealed it to him, he has nothing to link him with the other race yet he wants to be counted along with those people, and at the same time contradicting what those people penned down! That's why i humbly asked you "what convinced you that the guy was a prophet sent by the same God who sent the other 40 all from the same race"? 1 Like
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Re: Nigerian Imam Converts To Christianity After Hearing the Voice of Jesus by petra1(m): 9:39pm On Apr 12, 2020 |
Corrections: The Muslim guy is a fraud . He has duped me and many Christian's asking for assistance . He has duped churches . I know him |
Re: Nigerian Imam Converts To Christianity After Hearing the Voice of Jesus by Empiree: 11:00pm On Apr 12, 2020 |
Maximus69:which is that one "true" christian organization?. What we believe is carefully reading the scriptures, thoroughly meditating on what we read and fervent prayers for directions on how to apply what we've got!you said all these nonsense bcus i put pressure on you. How about Geeman23 that claimed God or holy ghost spoke to him ?. Remember you guys have been praising him to engaged me. Bow you are saying you would run away from anyone who claimed spirit speaks to him. See confusion i tried to highlight all along?/ That's why I feel sorry for Geeman23 who claimed "holy ghost" arrested him to be christian. Holy ghost ko, holy satan ni But that's apart, the Bible has 40 different writers making it 40 Witnesses testifying to what was written in it and they were all from the same race (Israel)O ti n jewo bo di e di e. Geeman23 has not seen anything yet. Told you guys I treated this subject years ago. 40 different writers and all of them were visited by "holy ghost", abi?. Oni yeye ni yin. |
Re: Nigerian Imam Converts To Christianity After Hearing the Voice of Jesus by Nobody: 8:34am On Apr 13, 2020 |
Empiree: Oní yèyè ni enikéni tó bá gbé èsìn tí kò ní láárí l'érí! Islam is useless, perhaps your emotions is blurring you vision. I'm only trying to point to the one and only TRUE Christian group, and all the benefits of pure worship. The 40 different writers were from Moses~John, even if you try to prove stubborn, your religion have taught you that there are three inspired Jewish men that God's holy spirit touched to write, at least your Qur'an agreed that Moses, David and Jesus were truly inspired. So it's your hopeless Muhammad (Arabian) that you're now battling bitterly to smuggle in here! 1 Like |
Re: Nigerian Imam Converts To Christianity After Hearing the Voice of Jesus by Geeman23(m): 8:49am On Apr 13, 2020 |
Empiree:young Man. learn this thing. there are two derivative of Christianity. There is Christianity as a church eligion out of which you have the diverse school movement of Christianity such as Catholics, jehovah witness, CAC, Baptist etc. These are religious movement with several school of thought which often are church doctrines developed by founders of this movement. This is the source of the divergent beliefs among Christians which you have appealed to now about what that guy said of his own "belief on scripture. There is christainity as a personal faith which is the substance o the message of the Lord Jesus i the message of God's kingdom This one is not religion or popular. Most Christians are actually religious. especially in Nigeria that is why you see a lot of tge mrssage of church and pastors. The kingdom of God is a faith between you as a son and God as father a replica of what happen between God and the Lord Jesus. This is real faith as I explained earlier. You know God. God speaks to you. There is a fellowsh8p between you. Get it I am not taking you on from the angle of Christian religion but as a son of God and one of the signs of a son of God is the living word I.e an appeal to Revelation by God from previous fellowship with the father and less of religious scripture. study Jesus . Jesus preached spot fro his spirit and he was always talking about the gather I identify with the faith of Christ but I don't do religion. I am a son of God. I am not just following pastor or any church doctrine. and mind you God doesn't talk rubbish. He teaches his kingdom his wisdom for living and a lot guidance as an earthly father would to his son. I know the veil of religion will not make you appreciate this. I was once like you. but I know If you don't know the truth in this life you will know at the resurrection. I pray it don't to that level with you to discover you have been born in a lie for a religion and believing in a faith that don't restore you to God and can't give you eternal life we sons of God are already living eternal life on Earth. That God we are meeting on the day of resurrection we are already relating with on Earth . when we die we don't die. our souls don't taste death as Jesus promised. our soul isreceived by the father. and we wait for the rapture when our body will raised and redeemed from the the corruption of death. when you die as a Muslim no matter our righteous or spiritual you claim to be, the reality is the absence of God's righteousness in your soul qualify automatically for death. you die both in the body and the soul. this total death. your soul is marked for hell. and there is nor resurrection to glory, but resurrection to hell and the lake of fire alongside hell for you since your faith denies Jesus who has the power of resurrection and demonstrate it evidently in his ministry and was also glorified by God with that glory. The least of Christians( religious ones and even a person who surrenders to Jesus a second before he dies) will inherit eternal life cause they believe jesus, the best of Muslims are marked fore hell. I fear for many of my former brothers. seeing you talk like this make me remember the days of ignorance. I know you are mostly likely to sway my message aside and attack me as a person and my faith and not even consider the substance of the message, that is what religious indoctrination does. it makes you an illogical fanatic of your faith. I preach to you still to add to the chance you have had to have the message of eternal life which surely religious fanaticism has made you throw away. Get this all those preachings will be witness against you on the day of resurrection to block of any excuse you gonna give for not receiving the message of eternal life. I love you that's why I am telling you thiIs and mind you stop lumping me together with others and using the difference in our thoughts to argue rather than substance of message. That is a chicken and unintelligent way to argue. I have done the same thing in the past to attack Christians without looking at their message. it is a pull him down strategy. it is cheap, and in the context of this debate nonsensical. I took you on personally. I have address the message of Islam. I have broken it down. address what I said. think about it. Go and research. digest what I said about the Quran as beign a false revelation, take the Quran and kill your biase and examine the Quran in the light of what I said. If demons as in Surat jinn Quran 72 could approve the Quran as beign from God, then know the underlying deceit of Satan who orchestrated the Revelation. Demons will never approve of righteousness. Demons are enemies of man. don't be deceived that their are good demons. if they are good they won't rebel against God and be casted down. demons approve of the Quran they facilitated to deceive man into a religion of self righteousness with no power to give man eternal life. Normally I hate arguement like this having in that shoe before, it is usually an attempt to abuse, denegrate, whitewash one another. This I found to be stupid lazy, unintelligent immature. so This is the last time I will engage you. I have preached to you. I am not here to win you in any religious argument. I am too reasonable and smart for that. don't quote me again except you have something intellectually tangible to say from the body of my message. 2 Likes |
Re: Nigerian Imam Converts To Christianity After Hearing the Voice of Jesus by Faithful4real(m): 9:32am On Apr 13, 2020 |
Empiree: That's the problem with you guys. You don't understand the verse. Don't be yorked together this mean don't follow the unbelievers to be doing evil like fornication,stealing etc 1 Like |
Re: Nigerian Imam Converts To Christianity After Hearing the Voice of Jesus by Empiree: 11:10am On Apr 13, 2020 |
Faithful4real:this is even worse. Most christians and pastors today are evilmaniac |
Re: Nigerian Imam Converts To Christianity After Hearing the Voice of Jesus by sagenaija: 11:15am On Apr 13, 2020 |
Empiree:Did Mohamed Perform Miracles? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EhgPhdS__NM |
Re: Nigerian Imam Converts To Christianity After Hearing the Voice of Jesus by Empiree: 11:16am On Apr 13, 2020 |
You have nothing upstairs. Let me just ignore you. How's Moses, Jesus and David relate with Christianity and Churches. Abeg, you have nothing to say jare. Go and renounce CHRISTIANITY. You have no proof. Maximus69: |
Re: Nigerian Imam Converts To Christianity After Hearing the Voice of Jesus by Empiree: 11:19am On Apr 13, 2020 |
sagenaija:I'm not interested in silly video, bro. Have told you miracles are not evidence of truth. I showed you in your Bible that miracle workers are condemned in your Bible. Miracle is not important to us. Our miracle is Noble Qur'an |
Re: Nigerian Imam Converts To Christianity After Hearing the Voice of Jesus by sagenaija: 11:26am On Apr 13, 2020 |
Empiree:The Literary Miracle of the Koran https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2XVbpIfEkA |
Re: Nigerian Imam Converts To Christianity After Hearing the Voice of Jesus by Nobody: 11:47am On Apr 13, 2020 |
Empiree: See mumungus! Moses, David and Jesus are all Jews from the same race. And your religion is nothing if the Bible is not here. I could remember how stupid look on the face of a cleric, when he quoted 1Corinthians 11:6-10 to support the hijab, but as soon as i reminded him what he himself said that Paul was an impostor whose books supposed to be burnt, come and see the looks on Imam's face! Never mind i will renounce Christianity and come back to join in your stupidity that you often quote books that you have condemned to support your hopeless Muhammad! 1 Like |
Re: Nigerian Imam Converts To Christianity After Hearing the Voice of Jesus by Empiree: 11:54am On Apr 13, 2020 |
Maximus69:you don't need to stress yourself. Coronavirus is already forcing all of you to conform to Islam willingly and unwillingly. You now wash your hands by force. Women now use hijab and even niqab by force. Even men joined them to use niqab. You must receive sense by force.
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Re: Nigerian Imam Converts To Christianity After Hearing the Voice of Jesus by Nobody: 11:59am On Apr 13, 2020 |
Empiree: It's true! So Islam is not for PEACE but by FORCE. But what about Islamic prostitutes practicing your forceful religion yet smoking weed and drinking whiskey? 1 Like
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Re: Nigerian Imam Converts To Christianity After Hearing the Voice of Jesus by Empiree: 12:01pm On Apr 13, 2020 |
Maximus69:Your are excused now |
Re: Nigerian Imam Converts To Christianity After Hearing the Voice of Jesus by Faithful4real(m): 12:29pm On Apr 13, 2020 |
Empiree: Don't say most Christians. Because you guys are worst. The Muslims root from the beginning has problem. Started from Egypt. |
Re: Nigerian Imam Converts To Christianity After Hearing the Voice of Jesus by Faithful4real(m): 12:36pm On Apr 13, 2020 |
Empiree:shut up do you know Jesus is from the lineage of David. And Christian is the name given to the disciples of Jesus when he left. The people antioch gave them the name. |
Re: Nigerian Imam Converts To Christianity After Hearing the Voice of Jesus by Nobody: 12:39pm On Apr 13, 2020 |
Next time don't make stupid suggestions like telling a sane person to consider Islam! Goodbye! Empiree: 1 Like |
Re: Nigerian Imam Converts To Christianity After Hearing the Voice of Jesus by Faithful4real(m): 1:04pm On Apr 13, 2020 |
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Re: Nigerian Imam Converts To Christianity After Hearing the Voice of Jesus by Empiree: 3:03pm On Apr 13, 2020 |
Faithful4real:and the people of Antioch have authority to do that?. Also who are "them"?. Paul was not a disciple but a lawyer.. He never met Jesus. So from your write-up you can see there is no connection btw Jesus and CHRISTIANITY. Stop wasting your time in christianity. Religion of your father is Islam. Paul changed religion of Jesus (Islam) and all its rules to his. Paul lied on several occasions. You don't know your Bible at all. Let me drop few verses which none of your learned christians in this platform could not refute. Paul said Hebrews 6:1 Therefore, let us move beyond the elementary teachings about Christ and be taken forward to maturity, not laying again the foundation of repentance from acts that lead to death, and of faith in God, Here in Roman 3:7 Paul lied Someone might argue, "If my falsehood enhances God's truthfulness and so increases his glory, why am I still condemned as a sinner?" Think about his statement very well. It means if Pastors teach real teachings of Jesus churches would be empty. But they must lied as Paul lied so get crowd. Now what do they teach in churches today?. PROSPERITY It was Paul who taught "death and ressurection" of Jesus. It was Paul who taught "blood of Jesus" for redemption of sin. It was Paul who condenmed circumcision and so many teachings of Jesus he changed. CHRISTIANs in Nigeria have nothing, absolutely nothing to do with Jesus. Jesus himself doesn't exist. The letter J did not exist until 600 years ago. So his name was not Jesus. And finally, saying "in Jesus name" the phrase which is very common today is abomination. Your Bible says in Jesus name infidels rely on. In Yoruba it means "ni oruko Jesu ni awon keferi gbon Kan le" which means keferi ni e, ma. Here is the proof from your Bible Matthew 12:21 RSV And in his name unbelievers will hope So you people that are saying "In Jesus name you pray" are disbelievers. |
Re: Nigerian Imam Converts To Christianity After Hearing the Voice of Jesus by Empiree: 3:29pm On Apr 13, 2020 |
Faithful4real:I have passed message of islam to you, to be muslim and pray salat. I will testify against you in the Hereafter that i delivered message of islam to you |
Re: Nigerian Imam Converts To Christianity After Hearing the Voice of Jesus by Nobody: 3:30pm On Apr 13, 2020 |
Empiree: Paul was telling Christians the next step after they've been taught what Jesus came to do which is redeeming mankind from sin and death through his sacrificial death. This means they need to progress to the next step which is how to gather all people together in fulfilment of what the prophets said the Christ will achieve through his Counsels. Isaiah said people from all nations will form one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers, they will never carry weapons for any reason and the whole earth will notice that there is LOVE JOY and PEACE in their midst! Isaiah 2:2-4 Today Jehovah's Witnesses have reached that stage, they began the preaching and teaching program again in 1919 after 1800 years that the last Apostle died. Last year marked 100 years that they've been gathering peace lovers throughout the globe, and now due to Covid19 that broke out December last year, they've stopped visiting hostile neighbours but only those who have accepted them as God's true servants! Jesus prayed fervently for this to happen before God destroy all evildoers, and now it's 100 years from 1919~2019 that his true followers have been zealously preaching and teaching in our neighborhood to gather peace lovers under one umbrella! Sorry, i won't have intervened if not because you mentioned learned Christians , i know you're ready to perish with Muhammad but don't come here spewing gibberish about Christianity or else i'll make you smell the hypocrisy in those Arabs brainwashing you into thinking they knew anything about peace yet there is nothing as in NOTHING like PEACE in their stupid RELIGION! |
Re: Nigerian Imam Converts To Christianity After Hearing the Voice of Jesus by Faithful4real(m): 5:05pm On Apr 13, 2020 |
Empiree:Answer this question here https://www.nairaland.com/5790895/question-muslim-friends |
Re: Nigerian Imam Converts To Christianity After Hearing the Voice of Jesus by Empiree: 5:10pm On Apr 13, 2020 |
Geeman23:You keep saying "you". What's my business with diverse movement in christendom?. I am only concerned about your beliefs in Jesus as you called him and your belief as muslim. Thats all There is christainity as a personal faith which is the substance o the message of the Lord Jesus i the message of God's kingdom This one is not religion or popular. Most Christians are actually religious. especially in Nigeria that is why you see a lot of tge mrssage of church and pastors.You have just said the same thing they said "Lord Jesus". You will have to defend this. The kingdom of God is a faith between you as a son and God as father a replica of what happen between God and the Lord Jesus. This is real faith as I explained earlier. You know God. God speaks to you. There is a fellowsh8p between you.You believe in Bible or not?. I am not interested in "God speak to you or you speak to God". No one can confirm that. Religion is based on Divine Book. What you are preaching here is more like spirituality. We have same in islam but it is not evidence. Private relationship btw man and Gd exist in islam but it MUST conform with Divine revelation. Otherwise it is nonsense. Private communication btw man and God stays private. You can not use that as evidence. We have this spiritual path in islam as well. It is called "Islamic spirituality" or at-tasawwuf. I am sure you know since you claimed to be ex-muslim. But if you spirituality takes you to another level to think Jesus is Lord and Savior, then you are not talking to God but the devil. CONFIRMED. Get it I am not taking you on from the angle of Christian religion but as a son of God and one of the signs of a son of God is the living word I.e an appeal to Revelation by God from previous fellowship with the father and less of religious scripture. study Jesus . Jesus preached spot fro his spirit and he was always talking about the gatherNo, buddy. Text is the foundation of religious guidance. You can not form your own religion from your head. If you claim to believe in Jesus you must prove it from Bible or Gospel. Otherwise, whatever doctrine you formed in your head is misguidance. Islamic spiritual path must conform with Quran. What you are trying preach is esoteric knowledge or mystic science. This will not help you if you have zero knowledge of religious text (zahir) I identify with the faith of Christ but I don't do religion. I am a son of God. I am not just following pastor or any church doctrine and mind you God doesn't talk rubbish. He teaches his kingdom his wisdom for living and a lot guidance as an earthly father would to his son.I am glad you said God doesnt talk rubbish which is true. So according to your belief system, who is Jesus ?. as for "son of God", there are many sons and even daughters of God out there. Nothing's unique about that. I know the veil of religion will not make you appreciate this. I was once like you. but I know If you don't know the truth in this life you will know at the resurrection. I pray it don't to that level with you to discover you have been born in a lie for a religion and believing in a faith that don't restore you to God and can't give you eternal lifeNo, please speak for yourself. You have establish fact in everything you said we sons of God are already living eternal life on Earth. That God we are meeting on the day of resurrection we are already relating with on Earth .What exactly is so unique in what you said?. In islam a muslims doesn't die either. Quran confirms this Sura: 2, Verse: 154 And do not say about those who are killed in the way of Allah, "They are dead." Rather, they are alive, but you perceive [it] not. when you die as a Muslim no matter our righteous or spiritual you claim to be, the reality is the absence of God's righteousness in your soul qualify automatically for death. you die both in the body and the soul. this total death. your soul is marked for hell. and there is nor resurrection to glory, but resurrection to hell and the lake of fire alongside hell for you since your faith denies Jesus who has the power of resurrection and demonstrate it evidently in his ministry and was also glorified by God with that glory.O fe te(about to disgrace yourself). I know your type. I have said this before. All you crazy people talking about you are "ex-muslim" are nothing but shenanigans. I have quoted Quran above that muslims dont die. And here is another prove that we will be resurrected in and we are going to paradise Those who have faith and do righteous deeds,- they are the best of creatures. Q98:7 But they who believe and do righteous deeds - those are the companions of Paradise; they will abide therein eternally. Q2:82 [But,] verily, as for those who attain to faith and do righteous deeds - the gardens of paradise will be there to welcome them; Q18:107 These verses of Quran refute your nonsense. You are a liar. Exmuslim my foot. pretender claiming to be former muslims. If you are former muslim why you didnt see these verses?. You are a liar. I just burst your bubble. Imagine you said muslims are going to hell but you didnt prove it. You have neither have knowledge of the bible or Quran. You didn't quote religious texts so far and you wanna deceive your fellow christian and hide behind "God speak to me". Rubbish. Matter of fact, your bible refutes people like you claim claim to speak to God.John 5:37 And the Father who sent me has himself testified concerning me. You have never heard his voice nor seen his form, What you are suffering from is illusion. According to the bible, punishment for people like you is located in 2 Thessalonians 2:11-12 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness This dude, Maximus69, once said that they run away from people who claim God speak to them. You are suffering from illusion, body. You were never a muslim but a confused fellow. Return to islam and save yourself from torment. Stop smoking cheap drugs and go back to bible or islamic school and learn religion properly instead of talking nonsense from your head. It is satan speaking to you and playing pranks with your brain. Attachment below is from christian. I thought you sabi Bible. A se o ti e le (you are a novice) yet, your brother revered you so much that they think I am afraid of you. All of you need to renounce christianity asap. You dont know anything.
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Re: Nigerian Imam Converts To Christianity After Hearing the Voice of Jesus by OtemAtum: 5:15pm On Apr 13, 2020 |
Corrections:Why should he be sued for saying the truth? Anyway, if you guys Sue him and win, we will count it as one of the injustice as perpetrated by the early church. |
Re: Nigerian Imam Converts To Christianity After Hearing the Voice of Jesus by Empiree: 5:20pm On Apr 13, 2020 |
Faithful4real:You are a baby boy jare. This thread you projected was already dealt with many times on this platform. Search NL and you see that we muslims have treated this topic several times. Better still, go to islamic school and learn. |
Re: Nigerian Imam Converts To Christianity After Hearing the Voice of Jesus by BewareOf419: 8:00am On Apr 15, 2020 |
YOU PEOPLE FROM RELIGION OF KETTLE (Islam) SHOULD STOP DISGRACING MUHAMMAD AND allah HERE |
Re: Nigerian Imam Converts To Christianity After Hearing the Voice of Jesus by sagenaija: 8:34am On Apr 15, 2020 |
Empiree: Allah Doesn't Monkey Around: Quran, Apes, and Eschatology This video examines the Koran claim that Allah turned some Jews into animals. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-VcTSWn3PM 1 Like |
Re: Nigerian Imam Converts To Christianity After Hearing the Voice of Jesus by Empiree: 11:01am On Apr 15, 2020 |
sagenaija:O ti tun bere, abi?. Some average white dude are your saviour, abi?. O oo gbadun |
Re: Nigerian Imam Converts To Christianity After Hearing the Voice of Jesus by sagenaija: 5:11pm On Apr 15, 2020 |
Empiree:Just as an average Arab dude, aka Mohamed, is your perfect example to follow. 2 Likes |
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