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It's only God that understands how he will judge the world.

All that we do or we will do will be tested. 1cor3:12,13



You can do the right thing and not get the reward . Likewise, u can do the wrong thing unconsciously nd get the reward eg Moses


Just like Moses that was told to speak to the rock instead he didn't obey God. He struck the rock with the rod. Because of that God disqualified him from entering the promised Land.

This same Moses that was disqualified from entering the promised Land (reward) is the same person that ascended to heaven(a far more greater reward) who appeared wit Elijah in glorious splendour discussing with Jesus during Jesus' transfiguration on the mountain Luke 9:28 - 33

descent96:
I must say this message is an eye-opener to me, thanks Op 4 enlightening us on this message which has been wrongly preached by some men of God. I'm glad i came across such a wonderful and self-explanatory message as this and i'd want more of this on this forum as we prepare 4 that imminent day of God's judgement

Thank you brother. You can get more from FeedMeJesus

they are no TV screen in the heavenly...its more of an illustration...the bottomline is do good and you will make heaven...do bad and you are heading to hell.

Judgement day kee u and the judge.

When u foolishly leave a rat with fish what do u expect? Will u blame the rat for chowing the fish? When u already know what the result will be.

God the chief judge oya come and judge me. Yeye.

unstoppable51:
Read the post and the reply again brother. There's a day set for the judgement of the entire world by God. No man knows exactly what the day it shall be but we know it is coming, as God has said it.

Mind you, this is different from the Believers judgement which is actually a time for the determination of each person's eternal rewards at the judgement seat of Christ.

The first is for the entire world, the second is strictly for believers and it will happen after we've all gone to Heaven.

I hope this helps sir!

God bless you richly for this

unstoppable51:
Have you ever heard about the Judgement Day as a Christian? What did you hear about it?

There are very few messages I know that strike as much fear in the hearts of “Christians” as the message of the “Judgement Day”.

The reason is because some christians have been made to believe that the judgement day is a day that is full of uncertainties. That is, you can’t be sure of what to expect that day.

They have also been told that the judgement which will take place that day is based on our human performance. If you do enough good works, then God would probably have pity on you on that day and not cast you into hell. If you are not careful the way you go about your christian life, you would see the other side of Him.

Some have even been told that on that day, God will display all the sins you have ever committed on a big TV Screen for the whole world to watch. Imagine such foolishness. How can the same God that said in 2 Corinthians 5:19, Hebrews 8:12 and Hebrews 10:17, that He doesn’t record your sins and will never remember them against you, go back on His Word?

All these notions above, are just some of the un-biblical teachings people have been fed about the judgement day. As long as you hold strongly to such notions, the devil, the accuser of brethren, will keep using them to take away your joy and keep you in bondage to fear. Especially when you have not been at your best behaviour.

Everytime you hear that the Judgement Day is coming, your whole body will shiver. You will think of all the negative things you’ve done and not see any reason why you won’t end up in Hell. All because you believe it is a day your behavioural script will be marked and in your own eyes you scored 0/100.

What really is the judgement day and how is it going to look like?

The judgement day is simply a day in which God would separate those who received His life through Faith in His Son Jesus, from those who didn’t. Those who didn’t believe in Him (Jesus), will be separated eternally from Him and the saints. Having been separated from His presence, they shall be utterly destroyed (Hell).
Concerning that day, here Is what apostle John wrote to us as believers.

1Jn 4:15 Whosoever shall confess that Jesus is the Son of God, God dwelleth in him, and he in God.
1Jn 4:16 And we have known and believed the love that God hath to us. God is love; and he that dwelleth in love dwelleth in God, and God in him.
1Jn 4:17 Herein is our love made perfect, that we may have boldness in the day of judgment: because as he is, so are we in this world.
1Jn 4:18 There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love.

Did you notice how he went on from verse 15 to explain something about the man in Christ i.e the believer today?

He says God LIVES WITHIN him. He has been made PERFECT in God’s love and would have BOLDNESS on the day on Judgement.

So on that day of judgement, we won’t be approaching the judge of the whole world with fear, timidity or shyness. We won’t have to shy away from His presence because we are not holy or righteous enough. We won’t be approaching Him with anything fear. You know why?

That is because as Jesus IS, so are WE in this present world.

The question now is, how is Jesus presently?
Well Jesus is RIGHTEOUS, HOLY and WELL-PLEASING (acceptable) to the father.

That simply means as believers, we are RIGHTEOUS, HOLY and ACCEPTABLE or WELL-PLEASING to the Father also.

2Co 5:21 For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.

As Christ IS, is how we are now and will forever be. That’s why we would have BOLDNESS/CONFIDENCE to stand before Him on that great day of judgement. That is what the Bible teaches.

Look at that verse 17 and 18 of 1 John 4 one more time.

1Jn 4:17 Herein is our love made perfect, that we may have boldness in the day of judgment: because as he is, so are we in this world.
1Jn 4:18 There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love.

Notice how it is clearly explained that God doesn’t want you to live in fear of that day. If you are still afraid of that day, it simply means you have not been made perfect in the love of God. You are yet to understand fully how much God loves you. You are yet to understand all that He has done for you in Christ. You are yet to understand who you are in Christ!

Yes the judgement day is coming but Jesus got you covered as a believer. Unlike what is popularly believed out there, your sins are not going to be displayed for the whole world to see and judge your level of performance. You are not going there to be judged by your works but rather your faith in Christ.

The only time you will ever be judged for your works as a believer is at the Judgement Seat of Christ. This is after you have gone to heaven.

That is where you will receive the reward for the good works you have done here on earth. If you have no good works on your account then, you will certainly have no reward from Him. Though you will still be in heaven. That is because heaven is not a reward for our good we have done. It is a gift we receive by faith in Christ.

Left for us, there is no amount of good works we can do that will be enough for us to enter there.

So, the last day or the day of Judgement, is the day in which God will judge the whole world. And on that day, only one thing will matter - Faith in Christ.

Have you believed in Jesus as your Saviour from sin and condemnation or are you still struggling very hard on your own to please God?
Do not forget that I said on that day ONLY ONE THING will matter. Not your religion, church or good works. Only faith in Christ. That is what will determine the outcome of your judgement.
That is the truth about the Judgement Day. That is what the Bible truly teaches!

Having received Christ as our Lord and saviour, we BOLDLY await that day!

I hope this blesses you.

Source: https://www.feedmejesus.com/2019/09/the-truth-about-judgement-day.html

This so called judgement day is nothing but a non judgmental life review every soul has upon completion of each life lived. It is not a judgment by some deity sitting on some throne as painted in Christianity.

Xucxex1997:
The bible says after death comes judgment but the same bible says that when the messiah come the dead will rise from their graves and they all be judge

Pls explain this to me

1.It is true that judgement comes after death as per Heb 9:27. The dead are judged immediately after death and await judgment day in peace or torment depending if their names are found in the Book of Life or not. The account that Jesus Christ gave In Luke 16:19–31, shows that Lazarus and the Rich Man were already judged. Same thing applies to the thief that accepted christ on the cross. The thief made it to paradise: "Truly, I say to you, today you will be with me in paradise." (Luke 23:43). Paradise is where the soul of the righteous dead stay in bliss until the Judgement day. 2. At the Second Coming of Christ during rapture the saints will rise and take on the glorified body (1 Thessalonians 4:13–18), and (in 2 Cor 5:1-4, 1 Cor 15:51-54) .
3. The Great White Judgement. Rev 20:11-15 is where the wicked ones will be judged and this will lead to second death (Eternal Judgement) in which case the unrighteous ones whose souls were being tormented in 1 above would now be moved to their permanent site in the lake of fire along with Death and Hades.
4. The Judgement Seat of Christ is where the righteous that made it to heaven will now be judged and rewards given according to their deeds 2 Cor 5:9-10, 1 Cor 3:13-15.

I hope this helps.

uncleck:
The truth is a phrase that has been so abused that it no longer makes any sense. You form your opinion based on your exposure, your biases, your idiosyncrasies, your dogma and your influences, and you tag it "the truth". Can you prove the " truthfulness " of your truth?

Is truth absolute? Is truth relative? Let's learn to use "in my opinion" instead of "the truth" unless the subject matter is universally proven.

In Christianity when we talk about the truth we refer to the Word of God. John 14:6. John 17:17. So no need for anyone to form any opinion as to what the truth is. It is already written.

1stola:
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If you can not make your point without facts and without saying "THE BIBLE SAYS", then you're only making stupîd assumptions just like the people who wrote the "story book".

May God have mercy on you so that you will see the light by causing His Holy Spirit to convict you so that you get converted

Onebyonedead:
That is a character created by the Romans

Just like Disney characters

He ain't real

May God have mercy on you so that you will see the light by causing His Holy Spirit to convict you so that you get converted

Onebyonedead:
Jesus na scam

Brought to Africa by the colonial masters

So they could control Africans

That is why the bible says slaves obey your master

And that is why they talk about judgement

So the slaves will always fear .....it is a control thing

But u religious fanatics are to blind to see

May God have mercy on you so that you will see the light by causing His Holy Spirit to convict you so that you get converted

scott04:
GOD BLESS YOU FOR THESE SIR I HAVE ONLY ONE QUESTION WOULD THIS TAKE PLACE AFTER WE ARE DEAD OR AFTER THE RAPTURE.

It will take after both events. Rev 20:11-15. All the dead will be judged at the Great White Throne Judgement. When the rapture occurs the saints will catch up with Christ in the air and the Antichrist will come and rule thw world and people will die as normal. Thereafter Satan and his demons will be defeated and cast in lake of fire.

solreb:
May God have mercy on you so that you will see the light by causing His Holy Spirit to convict you so that you get converted

What makes you think that your story book (Bible) is truer is better than other religious books?

Osidazz19:
[[s]quote author=silvermania post=88606711]Christ is the only way,if you don't believe in him you are doomed,, simple[/s]

RUBBIS TRASH.
Christians are only about 30 percent of the world population, so the remaining 70 percent are doomed?
Utter illogical and senseless rubbish.

I found out that mostly brainwashed Nigerian Christians will say rubbish like this, even thr Oyinbo that brought you Christianity doesn't reason like this. They know better. This also means your fore fathers are all going to hell, because they didn't know about Christianity until the white man came to your villages.
Complete nonsense.

It will be difficult for you to understand if you are not a Christian whose heart has been regenerated.

solreb:
In Christianity when we talk about the truth we refer to the Word of God. John 14:6. John 17:17. So no need for anyone to form any opinion as to what the truth is. It is already written.

why then does opinion varry when it comes to what the judgement day stands for and when it is?

GofGs:
Why you are correct to a very large extent, however, the truth need not to have been universally proven. Jesus is the truth, yet He's not accepted by millions of people as the only true God and the Son of God who died and took away the sin of the world. John 1:36, John 18:38, John 8:32.
In essence, the most important thing in this regard is to walk closely with the Holy Spirit and lean not on our own understanding.

If Jesus is the truth according to your submission, Mohammed is also the truth

content208:
According to you, I will enter heaven even if I'm a sinner, provided I Believe in Christ.

Then let me go and continue to sin since Mr HyperGrace preacher said all that matters is for me to believe in Christ.

But Mr HyperGrace preacher forgot that I can't be in sin that grace may abound.

Mr HyperGrace preacher forgot that the eyes of a sinner shall not see God.

Mr HyperGrace preacher forgot that Righteousness exalts a nation but sin is a reproach to any man.

Mr HyperGrace preacher forgot that You can't be called a believer if you are living in sin.

Mr HyperGrace preacher forgot that those who commit sin after claiming that they have become believers are nailing Christ to the Cross a second time.

Why is Mr HyperGrace preacher looking for a smooth cover for his sin and uncleanness?

I think the OP presents the fact that you must believe in Christ to make heaven which is the starting point. He has used the word believer which means the person remains in faith and.live a righteous life. Of course a true Christian (a believer) must strive to attain sanctification working out his salvation with fear and trembling Phil 2:12

justgabby:
RUBBISH FROM A SICK MIND.

May God have mercy on you so that you will see the light by causing His Holy Spirit to convict you so that you get converted

spartan117:
The TRUTH is the word of God. Any teaching that has no foundation in the word is a lie. The op didn't just give us his opinions, he showed scriptures that proves it, hence it's The Truth.

The Bible is the word of God; it is the truth. The Quran is the word of God; it is also the truth

IJOBA2:
THE CURRENT BIBLE IS NOT GOD’S WORD.

Which book contains God's Word.

spartan117:
The TRUTH is the word of God. Any teaching that has no foundation in the word is a lie. The op didn't just give us his opinions, he showed scriptures that proves it, hence it's The Truth.

God bless you.

unstoppable51:
The Christian who continues in sin intentionally after he has heard and accepted the Gospel is a fool. He will never go unpunished as God does not condole sin. But his punishment is not like that of unbelievers and Satan (Hellfire), like most of us usually think.

The punishment of the Christian whose performance does not line up with his faith or confession, is that he will lose his eternal rewards in Heaven. He will lose the things God has prepared for those who lived uprightly in Heaven but his soul is still saved because he entered heaven by his faith in Jesus, not due to his good behaviours.

This is the point most of us usually miss it. We think Heaven is for the best behaved persons on earth. Whereas the scriptures teach that it is for those who exercised Faith in the Salvation that Christ offers. You will be so shocked to find those whom you must have looked down on and concluded that they are not "heavenly" there.

Those whom you hold in high esteem may never even make there. Why? Because most of them trust so much in their performance that they have unconsciously adopted that as their Saviour and no longer exercise faith in the sacrifice of Jesus.

Now again I say that the Christian who continues sinning after he is saved is a fool. He really deserves pity. But even more pitiable is the man who trusts in his "good works" for Salvation and not the Christ.

Why? Because the sinning Christian if he is truly saved in the first place, shall suffer loss of his eternal rewards in heaven and still be in Heaven. But the other fellow, "NOTHING for him"

To every Christian out there, you are the light of the world. Let it show in your character and actions towards others. Represent Christ everywhere you go, as though Jesus himself is watching you right now, because he really is.

To the unbeliever out there who believes that because of his good behaviours, God will consider him on the last day. Bro, you are living in fantasy. There's only one way to God, and that is FAITH IN THE SACRIFICE OF JESUS. Not your good works, alms giving, building and attending churches. Only faith in Christ saves.

Only faith in Jesus. Nothing else!

Your write-up is confusing and so misleading. Yes, anyone who wants to make heaven must believe in Christ and do his will (John 6:33, Matt 7:21-23) which is to live a righteous life. So if after declaring his belief and goes back to sin, his case is even worse (2 Pet 2:20-21) unlike unbelievers. Anyway both will not make heaven as no sinner will make heaven (Rev 21:. Your PARA 1 (and other related PARA) is totally wrong. The believer will be punished like unbeliever he will end up in the lake of fire.

Your 2nd PARA (and other relate PARA) is for the righteous who made heaven but rewards are now given or lost depending on how one has used his or her life for the Lord (eg soul winning, expected good works based on his talents for the kingdom). This is at the Judgement Seat of Christ (1 Cor 3:13-15).

unstoppable51:
The verse you just quoted said work "out" your salvation, it didn't say work "for" your salvation. "Work out" and "work for" your salvation are not the same.

What that Phil.2:12 is saying in essence is "live out the salvation you have already received by faith". In other words "manifest it, show it to the world" in your character and speech. Don't just lift scriptures to argue sir, read them with unbiased mind, to learn.

Nowhere in this post did the author said it's OK to sin after you have received Jesus. If you arrived at that conclusion, you never read the post well. Read again sir!

Update: Here's a detailed explanation of that Phil.2:12 https://www.feedmejesus.com/2019/03/what-does-it-mean-to-work-out-your.html

Well done sir for the clarification

murphyung:
How will the Muslims and people of other religion be judged? Would it not be unfair to say they are condemned already?? Just seeking clarity

As Christian's we can only follow what is written in the Bible which is Jesus is the only way and we are to preach to all creatures about accepting him. So it is left to God the righteous God to do what he pleases with anyone who does not believe in Christ.

xamuell:
pls can you give any biblical proof of purgatory? That has been a controversial issue

I think this is only found in Catholic Bible 2 Maccabees 12:41–12:46 which are not I the other Bible. Catholic supports this with some verses in the New Testament which in actual sense is not I support of purgatory eg Luke 16:19-31 (story of Lazarus)

Folabiw8:
All what u said about jurdement day is rubbish. U have know certain knowledge about that its beyound any christian to explain that day because ur bible no notting about the day.

May God have mercy on you so that you will be saved and not die in your ignorance

1stola:
FEED YOURSELF!
NB: Many of these books existed before Jesus and the Bible

Religion population and BOOKS

Hinduism (1 billion followers) - The Vedas
Buddhism (376 million followers) - Tripitaka (Pali Canon)
Sikhism (23 million followers) - Guru Granth Sahib
Judaism (14 million followers) - The Hebrew Bible (Old Testament)
Bahá’í (7 million followers) - Kitáb-i-Aqdas
Jainism (4.2 million followers) - Agam Sutras
Etc

Good. But you have to make a choice either to accept Christ and follow him or not. The bible reveals Christ to us. John 1:1-3 "In the beginning was the Word, the Word was with God and the Word was God...."

solreb:
Good. But you have to make a choice either to accept Christ and follow him or not. The bible reveals Christ to us. John 1:1-3 "In the beginning was the Word, the Word was with God and the Word was God...."

If you can not make your point with facts and without saying "THE BIBLE SAYS", then you're only making stupîd assumptions just like the people who wrote the "story book".

solreb:
Which book contains God's Word.

Go and look for original Bible in the Vatican

There are some amount of falsehood in this write-up, while faith in Christ is important. You omitted a lot which in turn goes to comfort people in sin.

unstoppable51:
So, the last day or the day of Judgement, is the day in which God will judge the whole world. And on that day, only one thing will matter - Faith in Christ.

Have you believed in Jesus as your Saviour from sin and condemnation or are you still struggling very hard on your own to please God?
Do not forget that I said on that day ONLY ONE THING will matter. Not your religion, church or good works. Only faith in Christ. That is what will determine the outcome of your judgement.
That is the truth about the Judgement Day. That is what the Bible truly teaches!

Having received Christ as our Lord and saviour, we BOLDLY await that day!

I hope this blesses you.

Source: https://www.feedmejesus.com/2019/09/the-truth-about-judgement-day.html

I perceive you are teaching that Righteousness and Holiness are not essential to enter heaven. Do you realise that you can miss heaven because of this. Because you misled people/believers to believe they can enter heaven as fornicators, adulterers, liars, lovers of the world, unforgivers etc. Consequently, The Lord Jesus will not be happy with you. You better fear his words.

Matthew 7:21 "Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord ,... in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.