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Re: Do You Personally Know Anyone Who Has Tested Positive Or Died Of Coronavirus? by Nobody: 7:01am On Apr 24, 2020
EXLOVER:
Corona virus in Nigeria is the biggest scam so far.
Am not used to insulting people,,,,but I must insult you....you are a big fool,,, in fact you are very stupid...I pray it gets to your house hold so that you can have small sense,, if you will even agree to have sense.
Re: Do You Personally Know Anyone Who Has Tested Positive Or Died Of Coronavirus? by Nobody: 7:02am On Apr 24, 2020
ikorodureporta:


didn't you hear that the virus is like advanced malaria? I've read someone's testimony here. It is when yr body is unable to fight back it becomes fatal
Does malaria symptom comes with a cough?
Re: Do You Personally Know Anyone Who Has Tested Positive Or Died Of Coronavirus? by Nobody: 7:03am On Apr 24, 2020
wealth25:

Am not used to insulting people,,,,but I must insult you....you are a big fool,,, in fact you are very stupid...I pray it gets to your house hold so that you can have small sense,, if you will even agree to have sense.
What the poster mean is that ncdc is manipulating covid19 figure to enrich their pockets.
Re: Do You Personally Know Anyone Who Has Tested Positive Or Died Of Coronavirus? by mayo47(m): 7:07am On Apr 24, 2020
Iwillsurvivedis:
Well personally I don't know anyone who has been infected or died of the novel covid-19 virus, with the hype and rate of increase as purported by our government and the secrecy sorrounding those they claim to have it, I have my doubts regarding the figures.

I have personally followed Ghana on worldometer.info and Ghana's covid cases has remained below 1300 and just 9 deaths over the past week(s). So what does Ghana know that we don't.

Also I read a report on yahoo news saying sunlight easily kills the virus and we all know that the sun in Nigeria can boil yam in the right circumstance.

Another thing I noticed is that as soon as the European union gave Nigeria a 27 billion grant, the cases started to rise uncontrollably. Anyway thats my observation.

So do you know anyone with the virus or has the NCDC Being to your area to pick any suspected case.

Let us know.

Analysis Paralysis

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Re: Do You Personally Know Anyone Who Has Tested Positive Or Died Of Coronavirus? by jikins(m): 7:09am On Apr 24, 2020
Macsjebs:

good you said allegedly, were pple not dying before the lockdown
should we now ascribe every death now to coronavirus when before now, people die of even fever

Is he the only person who has died in Delta State since then? Why weren't those ones allegedly ascribe to coronavirus? Mstcheew
Re: Do You Personally Know Anyone Who Has Tested Positive Or Died Of Coronavirus? by jikins(m): 7:12am On Apr 24, 2020
Macsjebs:

thank you

we can't say it was only meeting he went for in Germany, just saying, what if he went for medical check up

What if he went to play ludo too. This guy self undecided
Re: Do You Personally Know Anyone Who Has Tested Positive Or Died Of Coronavirus? by bluefilm: 7:12am On Apr 24, 2020
Elxandre:

So what has been killing people in multitudes in Italy and USA?

What multitude are you talking about?

The same seasonal flu that has been killing people is the same thing that is killing them now.

Don't be deceived by the CNN and co who are bent on scaring the living hell out of you with their reports of deaths everywhere.

Report now has it that every death now that has anything to do with respiratory system is now promoted to COVID19.

Now one other issue the media is not reporting is the fact that mostly old people are affected by this disease.

Most of these countries, most especially Italy in particular, have quite a high number of old people!

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Re: Do You Personally Know Anyone Who Has Tested Positive Or Died Of Coronavirus? by jikins(m): 7:16am On Apr 24, 2020
Jelzin2412:


To be honest I marvel at the level of Ignorance displayed by many Nigerians. And to worsen it, everyone has turned specialist statistician and medical juggernut with some funny theories that made me appreciate even more the number of years I have spent through med school and practice.

And my answer is simple! Visit any isolation centre of your choice, have someone cough into your face then go home to your aged parents and tells us the story from your first hand experience in 3wks.

He quoted Ghana without stating the stark difference in the number of tests between both nations and how it affects COVID-19 statistics between Nigeria and the rest of the world.

Well I have quit trying to convince people cos they will never understand until it gets to them.

The numbers displayed on worldometer is grossly underreported cos it doesn't include deaths in the communities and homes as well as cases in people who self isolated and the assymptomatic patients that never got tested.

Well they will never understand. And the worst is the fact many persons lack basic understanding of finance and economics when they quote how Govt is cashing out. Like why would they want to kill an Economy that will so benefit their looting for rudimentary crumbs from WHO, EU and private donors put together...

Na who go na him sabi..

Abi oh, just so disappointed

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Re: Do You Personally Know Anyone Who Has Tested Positive Or Died Of Coronavirus? by officialfestus(m): 7:18am On Apr 24, 2020
Uyi168:
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Upper sokponba people will obey social distancing and lockdown during the day..
At night, when the Corona virus is fast asleep, they all come out, gather,start drinking, looking for pussies and diccks to Bleep... grin
Re: Do You Personally Know Anyone Who Has Tested Positive Or Died Of Coronavirus? by Nobody: 7:20am On Apr 24, 2020
ThierryJay:
I pity all those insinuating that it's a scam because people you know are not dying yet. Don't worry e go soon clear for una eyes.

With the way people have not been taking precautions here in Nigeria, it's a no brainer that it's going to spread widely. Whatever NCDC stands to gain financially does not stop people from infecting one another.

If it's real in Ghana, in South Africa, in Egypt, in Burkina Faso, why wouldn't it be real in Nigeria?Are all of these countries scammers too? Including their European counterparts?

The 27billion grant that you claimed WHO gave Nigeria, Nigeria has lost several multiples of that amount in revenue from unproductivity due to lockdown. So will you as a rational person shut down your personal business that gives you 10million a month, in order to receive a 500thousand Naira handout from good Samaritans? I'm struggling to understand the level of gross stupidity at play here.


This is one of the best comments I have read so far on this platform. I wonder why some people call themselves elite and yet they don't use their brains.

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Re: Do You Personally Know Anyone Who Has Tested Positive Or Died Of Coronavirus? by Xscape1993(m): 7:21am On Apr 24, 2020
ThierryJay:
I pity all those insinuating that it's a scam because people you know are not dying yet. Don't worry e go soon clear for una eyes.

With the way people have not been taking precautions here in Nigeria, it's a no brainer that it's going to spread widely. Whatever NCDC stands to gain financially does not stop people from infecting one another.

If it's real in Ghana, in South Africa, in Egypt, in Burkina Faso, why wouldn't it be real in Nigeria?Are all of these countries scammers too? Including their European counterparts?

The 27billion grant that you claimed WHO gave Nigeria, Nigeria has lost several multiples of that amount in revenue from unproductivity due to lockdown. So will you as a rational person shut down your personal business that gives you 10million a month, in order to receive a 500thousand Naira handout from good Samaritans? I'm struggling to understand the level of gross stupidity at play here.
You have made some good points that has changed my thoughts. Good one.

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Re: Do You Personally Know Anyone Who Has Tested Positive Or Died Of Coronavirus? by willybaby(m): 7:23am On Apr 24, 2020
ThierryJay:
I pity all those insinuating that it's a scam because people you know are not dying yet. Don't worry e go soon clear for una eyes.

With the way people have not been taking precautions here in Nigeria, it's a no brainer that it's going to spread widely. Whatever NCDC stands to gain financially does not stop people from infecting one another.

If it's real in Ghana, in South Africa, in Egypt, in Burkina Faso, why wouldn't it be real in Nigeria?Are all of these countries scammers too? Including their European counterparts?

The 27billion grant that you claimed WHO gave Nigeria, Nigeria has lost several multiples of that amount in revenue from unproductivity due to lockdown. So will you as a rational person shut down your personal business that gives you 10million a month, in order to receive a 500thousand Naira handout from good Samaritans? I'm struggling to understand the level of gross stupidity at play here.
a good morning and God's blessings on you.. it amazes me how Nigerians think do they know how much the country is losing due to this lockdown daily , Nigeria might be corrupt but that doesn't mean all our leaders are mad

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Re: Do You Personally Know Anyone Who Has Tested Positive Or Died Of Coronavirus? by sneak3(m): 7:27am On Apr 24, 2020
ThierryJay:
I pity all those insinuating that it's a scam because people you know are not dying yet. Don't worry e go soon clear for una eyes.

With the way people have not been taking precautions here in Nigeria, it's a no brainer that it's going to spread widely. Whatever NCDC stands to gain financially does not stop people from infecting one another.

If it's real in Ghana, in South Africa, in Egypt, in Burkina Faso, why wouldn't it be real in Nigeria?Are all of these countries scammers too? Including their European counterparts?

The 27billion grant that you claimed WHO gave Nigeria, Nigeria has lost several multiples of that amount in revenue from unproductivity due to lockdown. So will you as a rational person shut down your personal business that gives you 10million a month, in order to receive a 500thousand Naira handout from good Samaritans? I'm struggling to understand the level of gross stupidity at play here.

That's exactly my point too. Our youths today seems not to know the daily revenue generation by government from business activities in Lagos and Abuja alone. It exceed any donation from any qrt of the world. No government will ground business acctivties that are capable of generating trillions of Naira in favour of 27billion from WHO.

Just thank God that none of your close relatives or friends has been taken out by the virus instead of doubting its existence in Africa.. until we get the point or understand that our leaders have far more opportunities to loot in a functional and active economy than this our myopic view of govt agencies deliberately over reporting Corona infections for financial gains.

The earlier we all graduate from this school of ignorance and come to accept the real nature of Corona virus the better and safer for our ourselves and the society we live in.

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Re: Do You Personally Know Anyone Who Has Tested Positive Or Died Of Coronavirus? by maryalloy(f): 7:34am On Apr 24, 2020
Abba kyari
Re: Do You Personally Know Anyone Who Has Tested Positive Or Died Of Coronavirus? by Femzy900(m): 7:45am On Apr 24, 2020
Yes oooo my ex commandant just died of this disease in edo covid-19 is real

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Re: Do You Personally Know Anyone Who Has Tested Positive Or Died Of Coronavirus? by Orubebe01: 7:51am On Apr 24, 2020
chiommy63:
YES. She's back to her family now.
interview her on what she did that made her recover.

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Re: Do You Personally Know Anyone Who Has Tested Positive Or Died Of Coronavirus? by jikins(m): 7:52am On Apr 24, 2020
Macsjebs:

Good point
NCDC need to see this then, if every infected person don't need to be hospitalized; what then are all these shits about
Compare the no of infected persons when it all started plus discharged; how were they treated when the whole country never had that number of ventilators

let's just leave it here, the thing is more complicated than we see, as for the deaths and all that coffin news in foreign countries, just know money controls the media

A disease that has no cure but people get treated for it, that is they recover, does that mean it dies or would later resurface

If you don't know something ask questions, rather than spreading fake news. This isn't the first pandemic in history, go back and see for yourself. Read on the influenza outbreak in late 1910s. It infected over 500mil people but killed approx 50mil. 500 thousand people in Nigeria died from it.

Medical officers has said this countless times. They are treating the symptoms not the virus because there is no cure for it. There are so many things we don't know about the virus. But it is possible that after a while the virus gets deactivated just like the chicken pox virus. It becomes harmless up until it gets activated again. If you follow the news in South Korea you will hear of people who tested positive b4. They then recovered and tested negative. Only for them to test positive again few weeks after.

This is a novel virus, you don't expect us to have all the information yet. Do you know how many research went into malaria parasite plasmodium b4 we fully understood its mechanism of action. It took years.

There's another set of people. I recommend you do some reading on reticuloendothelial system or mononuclear phagocyte system (means same thing). With knowledge of that together with a little of what immunity entails you will understand this better.

These other sets of people will build immunity for the virus overtime. Once an antibody, in this case a virus makes its way into the body, the immune system starts attacking it. And begins to save information (this called memory) on how it has successfully killed this antibody. With that information the body starts producing antibiotics that will render the virus inactive or destroys it. This is known has acquired immunity. This is the basis on which vaccines works.

Also read up on herd immunity.

Most times the body will build immunity for it. But what kills people is the damage and complications caused by the virus when it was active. Especially on people with underlying health issues. Others with weak immune system might not be able to develop immunity for it self b4 they die.

Just because it has no cure doesn't mean every one who has it will die from it. Influenza didn't kill everyone who had it back then when there was no cure. Sometimes when things aren't adding up. Learn to do research on it instead of spreading false news. There have been several outbreaka in the world. Go back and read on it and see whats what.

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Re: Do You Personally Know Anyone Who Has Tested Positive Or Died Of Coronavirus? by Nobody: 7:53am On Apr 24, 2020
cucumbae:
What the poster mean is that ncdc is manipulating covid19 figure to enrich their pockets.
Ok..may be I misunderstood him.
Re: Do You Personally Know Anyone Who Has Tested Positive Or Died Of Coronavirus? by Tampa6246(m): 7:53am On Apr 24, 2020
Since covid 19 came , nobody dies of cancer, blood pressure, heart attack e.t.c. every single death in Nigeria now is covid 19. Smh
Re: Do You Personally Know Anyone Who Has Tested Positive Or Died Of Coronavirus? by Dandison28(m): 7:53am On Apr 24, 2020
Emmakohodis747:
Nope. That's why I don't really believe that there is corona in Africa. Prove me wrong
then, you must be living in a fools world
Re: Do You Personally Know Anyone Who Has Tested Positive Or Died Of Coronavirus? by Franking: 7:56am On Apr 24, 2020
No.

Simple question people can't answer instead they are writing epistle.
Re: Do You Personally Know Anyone Who Has Tested Positive Or Died Of Coronavirus? by jikins(m): 7:59am On Apr 24, 2020
abdullkabar:
Laughable post
Like seriously!!!!
Well, this is what our leaders have caused

*_This is one of the most enlightening information I've ever come across on this COVID-19 pandemic.
I don't know the originator but I think he/she deserves an applause.**_ ������

Read on.

� A QUESTION PEOPLE OFTEN ASK �

How/Why Do People Recover If There's Still No Proven Cure For COVID-19?
_________________________

� ANSWER :

Most respiratory viruses-- including Corona viruses such as the ones that causes the Common Cold -- are self-limiting, so to say.

What this means is that they have a relatively finite period in the human body before they "wear themselves out," or the immune system contains them, and the sufferer recovers.

Treatment for these viruses is thus mostly aimed at;

1. Relieving symptoms, in order to make the sufferer comfortable.

2. Keeping the infected person alive by supporting organ systems attacked and impaired by the virus.

Most times, treatment is not aimed at curing such viral illnesses, by attacking the virus itself. This is partly because they're self-limiting, and partly because developing antiviral medication is darn difficult due to the fact that they mutate so rapidly, and are more or less like shape shifters. If you develop a treatment against this form today, tomorrow they may mutate into a form resistant to said treatment.

So, the best form of treatment for such viruses is prevention, either by modification of social and lifestyle habits, to break the chain of transmission; or by vaccination.

If someone however becomes infected, treatment, as the immune system slugs it out with the virus, is usually supportive, and not definitive.

_________________________

Before we move on to COVID-19, I want to make a distinction and clarification between two forms of treatments- supportive treatment, and definitive treatment.

� DEFINITIVE/SPECIFIC TREATMENT

In the context of infectious diseases, definitive treatment entails treatment targeted specifically at the offending organism, aimed at eliminating it from the body. Once this is done, the body-- through its repair mechanisms, heals itself of the damage already caused by the organism, and the person recovers.

An example is use of antimalarial drugs to treat Malaria, and antibiotics to treat bacterial infections.

� SUPPORTIVE TREATMENT

This, in the context of infectious diseases, is treatment not aimed at eliminating the organism, but relieving its symptoms, and supporting vital bodily functions already compromised by it, while waiting for, or hoping that, the immune system will contain said infection.

So, if the person is having a distressful cough, you may have to give cough syrups to suppress it; if there's fever, you may have to use anti-pyretics, such as paracetamol, to relieve it; if in pain, analgesics may be used generously to make the patient more comfortable; etc.

If the infection compromises the function of certain vital organ systems, and the person is at risk of dying without optimal functioning of said system, you support the organ's function:

- For failing lungs; oxygen, and ventilators, may be needed.

- For cardiovascular collapse; fluids, and vaso-pressors may be given.

- For kidney failure; dialysis may come in handy.

Etc.

By doing these, you may be able to keep the body going, while the immune system wages battle against the offending organism.

If by the time the immune system is able to win the war and contain the infection, you have managed , through your supportive treatment, to keep the person alive, the person recovers.

However, if the damage caused by the organism in its wake is too much, and your supportive treatment couldn't keep the person alive to see the end of the battle between immune system and bug, the person dies.

_________________________

� COVID-19

For COVID-19, the "finite" period of battle between immune system and virus is usually between 2 to 6 weeks-- up to 8 weeks in some instances, depending on the competence/resilience of the person's immune system, among other things.

If one is able to withstand the onslaught of the virus within this period, the person would pull through, sometimes without any treatment, other times with supportive treatment, all depending on the severity of the disease.

To put this in context, COVID-19 has 5 clinical variants BASED ON SEVERITY;

1. Asymptomatic Form.

In this form, one gets infected without manifesting any symptom whatsoever. The person thus ends up just as a mere carrier, spreading the infection to others.

2. Mild Disease.

Some people would get the virus, but just have upper respiratory tract infection, with symptoms such as sneezing, mild fever, cough, malaise, etc; and recover rapidly, with or without any supportive treatment.

3. Moderate Disease.

This group would go on to develop lower respiratory tract infection, with pneumonia, and would need some supportive treatment, but may not be sick enough to need oxygen therapy.

4. Severe Disease.

This group develop Pneumonia, and get so sick that they would need oxygen therapy.

5. Critical Disease

This group of patients get so bad, and develop A.R.D.S, and ventilatory respiratory failure, so much that they would need a ventilator to survive, without which they'd definitely die.

� NB

This classification is based solely on the effect of the virus on the respiratory system, its primary target in the body. That however doesn't mean that the virus only affects the lungs.

_________________________

The form of the disease one develops depends on a host of factors including;

1. Immune status.

2. Age.

3. Presence of other co-morbidities, such as Diabetes, Hypertension, Heart Disease, Cancer, Chronic Lung Diseases, etc.

.

People with asymptomatic and mild to moderate forms of the disease don't need much help to recover; sometimes they're even advised to stay at home, especially in countries whose Hospitals are already overwhelmed, and are managed with minor conservative/supportive measures to relieve symptoms such as fever, headache, chest pain, and cough.

People with severe and critical forms of the disease would need Hospital admission and a lot of supportive measures, including oxygen therapy, ventilators, anti-shock therapy-- if necessary, and the full compliment of ICU care.

If conservative measures are enough to sustain the person, the person could still pull through even without specific antiviral therapy.

_________________________

� CONCLUSION

Hope I've been able to make you understand how recovery is possible, even without a definitive cure.

Now you know.

-------------------------------------------

Just in case you were wondering, I intentionally didn't want to dabble into the controversies surrounding touted specific antiviral remedies such as the Hydroxychloroquine-Azithromycin combination, Kaletra/Alluvia, Arbidol, etc; because whatever influence they have on prognosis doesn't negate the submissions made here.

*#Copied*

Perfection

Cc Macsjebs

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Re: Do You Personally Know Anyone Who Has Tested Positive Or Died Of Coronavirus? by alonso2214(m): 8:04am On Apr 24, 2020
Na hunger go finish me as I dey xo...

I need some assistance na beg I dey beg

0132158759 gtb
Re: Do You Personally Know Anyone Who Has Tested Positive Or Died Of Coronavirus? by Caseless: 8:11am On Apr 24, 2020
ThierryJay:
I pity all those insinuating that it's a scam because people you know are not dying yet. Don't worry e go soon clear for una eyes.

With the way people have not been taking precautions here in Nigeria, it's a no brainer that it's going to spread widely. Whatever NCDC stands to gain financially does not stop people from infecting one another.

If it's real in Ghana, in South Africa, in Egypt, in Burkina Faso, why wouldn't it be real in Nigeria?Are all of these countries scammers too? Including their European counterparts?

The 27billion grant that you claimed WHO gave Nigeria, Nigeria has lost several multiples of that amount in revenue from unproductivity due to lockdown. So will you as a rational person shut down your personal business that gives you 10million a month, in order to receive a 500thousand Naira handout from good Samaritans? I'm struggling to understand the level of gross stupidity at play here.
don't mind them.

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Re: Do You Personally Know Anyone Who Has Tested Positive Or Died Of Coronavirus? by Brainardc(m): 8:30am On Apr 24, 2020
Talking about person, No......but CoronaVirus is real�
Re: Do You Personally Know Anyone Who Has Tested Positive Or Died Of Coronavirus? by ugohenry2019(m): 8:42am On Apr 24, 2020
mindtricks:

They deliberately keep it secret to prevent stigmatization.
so Abba kyari family members will be stigmatized now abi
Re: Do You Personally Know Anyone Who Has Tested Positive Or Died Of Coronavirus? by HIGHSTAKE647: 8:43am On Apr 24, 2020
ThierryJay:
I pity all those insinuating that it's a scam because people you know are not dying yet. Don't worry e go soon clear for una eyes.

With the way people have not been taking precautions here in Nigeria, it's a no brainer that it's going to spread widely. Whatever NCDC stands to gain financially does not stop people from infecting one another.

If it's real in Ghana, in South Africa, in Egypt, in Burkina Faso, why wouldn't it be real in Nigeria?Are all of these countries scammers too? Including their European counterparts?

The 27billion grant that you claimed WHO gave Nigeria, Nigeria has lost several multiples of that amount in revenue from unproductivity due to lockdown. So will you as a rational person shut down your personal business that gives you 10million a month, in order to receive a 500thousand Naira handout from good Samaritans? I'm struggling to understand thee level of gross stupidity at play here.
Good one my brother is saddens my heart when people say it cause of grant that is why Nigeria are falsifying the figures this are money Nigeria can raise in a matter of weeks Yari died of the virus and it's real our level of education in this country is too low
Re: Do You Personally Know Anyone Who Has Tested Positive Or Died Of Coronavirus? by Jarus(m): 8:44am On Apr 24, 2020
Tampa6246:
Since covid 19 came , nobody dies of cancer, blood pressure, heart attack e.t.c. every single death in Nigeria now is covid 19. Smh

Every single death in Nigeria?

25 people have been said to die from coronavirus in Nigeria.

You mean only 25 people have died in Nigeria in the last 2 months?

I’m amazed at the level of reasoning here.

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Re: Do You Personally Know Anyone Who Has Tested Positive Or Died Of Coronavirus? by chikason68(m): 8:51am On Apr 24, 2020
24kmagic:
Same question i have always wanted to ask.

I also have my doubts about the numbers ncdc do bring out, especially that of Kano.

Kano state can inflate figures for Africa.
If they tell you they counted ten in Kano, just know that what they actually counted was 5 and half. Even their population is inflated.

Upon all the federal allocation they get from inflating figures, they are still among states with the poorest number of people in this country.

The day this country will split into two equal halves, there'll be gnashing of teeth in the core north.

Very useless, unproductive folks.
You ve never been to the north so stop saying what you don't know. You think their population is inflated? Don't say what you have no knowledge about dude
Re: Do You Personally Know Anyone Who Has Tested Positive Or Died Of Coronavirus? by ikorodureporta: 8:53am On Apr 24, 2020
cucumbae:
Does malaria symptom comes with a cough?

e b like say real malaria neva hammer you before
Re: Do You Personally Know Anyone Who Has Tested Positive Or Died Of Coronavirus? by Rapmoney(m): 8:57am On Apr 24, 2020
fabuloz1:

You are so gullible to think of such

Fvck off!!! Who's this fly? Don't mention me again.

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