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Brother the remaining 20m won't complete the budget.
There are a lot of miscellaneous expenses he is going to encounter. For example: when decking the building he needs to get planks and bamboo sticks to hold the building before it gets dried..
The sand of 400k(around 10 trips) is not even enough.....depending on location.. Forming the basket, German floor decking would consume a lot of sand and granite..
Laterite....
Roofing....except he wants to use Cameron zinc or abestos... Aluminum roofing sheets is about N1,350k per meter depending on the thickness.
*Swiss roofing sheets= N2500 per meter
*fiber britment sheet =N3500 per meter depending on the thickness.
Wood for roofing
PVC or pop.
Plaster sand for plastering the building.
Labour would gulp more than 2m.
He digs a bore hole or he buys water.....buying water will cost more than 200k for the project.
Tiles, windows, doors, window protector, piping, painting
PHCN meters for each shops.

What about landscaping the building?
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Do your research, people over spend when building if you have the money.


I remember when I was building my first house, a three bedrooms bungalow. All the Aluminum guys quoted 350k to 400k. Until when I went to Aluminum village at Dopemu did my costing and found out that 100k will buy the materials needed, at the end of the day I was able to do the job for 180k..

Pls go to property section,
There you will meet architect, builders and engineers who will help you analyze base on previous projects and may offer professional advice.
Am a fresh graduate so I haven't handled such size of project before.
But I can always link you up with a company in the north here which am very sure would ease your process.

Adegunle4:
...I see people mentioning things like consult an engineer blah blah blah...
At this conceptual stage... the people required are the architects and the quantity surveyors..
I don’t think an engineer knows better than an architect in design or cost estimation than a QS.
My opinion tho

You are totally wrong.
The mistake you guys make is not understanding how construction works. The civil engineer is the head of construction, he has an idea regarding all other aspect of construction be it architectural, quantity survey, structural work.

The work he is trying to do includes architectural work, civil work, mechanical work, electrical work, quantity surveyor.

Architects are now coming in to do an engineer's work but believe me I have handled many site where an architect tries to do an engineer's work and they end up spending more.

To the OP, my advice is for you to get a design from an architect first which satisfy your taste, get a structural drawing too, then a mechanical drawing plus electrical.
Afterward, get a Q,.S to quantify base on cost of materials, labour in the area the project will be situated.
You can know or have an idea of the cost then.

Note, after the whole cost has been drawn out, let your civil engineer still work out reduction in the cost because as an engineer on site, we always have a way to reduce at least 15% of the intended cost.
All the best!

good one wish u d best.

30m is quite ok. I just did insurance for a new complex of 45m in Lagos

kindly consider me for the insurance, Bond or any financial instrument u need on this

08165585996

stanisbaratheon:
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You can only know when you get your architectural and structural drawings.
An engineer will do a BEME for you to know the actual cost of construction.

Point of correction............Get a QS to prepare a BOQ to know the actual cost simple.

Kingrexyl:
In the north, I have a land there I just need the extimate, I also have some architects who were telling me 40 million, one told me 50 million am just confused.

What is your confusion ?

You want to give the architect the N30m and make the 20 shops just appear ?

The N30m will complete the job with tiles ?

They wan chop you.

Good morning my ppl. What I observed from the person talking of #30M. Nobody should fall victims of that guy pls.my first question to him are, is it the person that worked for the money and again must u come to the general public and start making public announcement bfor u know what to do? Bcox there so many danger attach to these clueless idea. I wl advise u to consult the practitioners for proper knownleged about ur project not like this childish way you re follow. Pls.thank u...

drmikeadams:




Where is d location?? Why not students lodge?

I second this

25 million can do it.
I've b3n a builder for almost 22years now, and I can tell you that those charging 40-50 million don't want you to build.

I would have helped you but I reside in the south and won't come to the North anytime soon.

...are you kidding me...
Where did you get that from?
I know you’d like to like to portray a civil Engr as being more important lol..
Respect the one who conceptualizes the project even when a dot is not yet on paper. He by far leads the team and that’s the Architect.
Get your hierarchy right bro.

dammyllare:


You are totally wrong.
The mistake you guys make is not understanding how construction works. The civil engineer is the head of construction, he has an idea regarding all other aspect of construction be it architectural, quantity survey, structural work.

The work he is trying to do includes architectural work, civil work, mechanical work, electrical work, quantity surveyor.

Architects are now coming in to do an engineer's work but believe me I have handled many site where an architect tries to do an engineer's work and they end up spending more.

To the OP, my advice is for you to get a design from an architect first which satisfy your taste, get a structural drawing too, then a mechanical drawing plus electrical.
Afterward, get a Q,.S to quantify base on cost of materials, labour in the area the project will be situated.
You can know or have an idea of the cost then.

Note, after the whole cost has been drawn out, let your civil engineer still work out reduction in the cost because as an engineer on site, we always have a way to reduce at least 15% of the intended cost.
All the best!

emmanuelewumi:


quote author=sirblend post=89275898]

Brother the remaining 20m won't complete the budget.
There are a lot of miscellaneous expenses he is going to encounter. For example: when decking the building he needs to get planks and bamboo sticks to hold the building before it gets dried..
The sand of 400k(around 10 trips) is not even enough.....depending on location.. Forming the basket, German floor decking would consume a lot of sand and granite..
Laterite....
Roofing....except he wants to use Cameron zinc or abestos... Aluminum roofing sheets is about N1,350k per meter depending on the thickness.
*Swiss roofing sheets= N2500 per meter
*fiber britment sheet =N3500 per meter depending on the thickness.
Wood for roofing
PVC or pop.
Plaster sand for plastering the building.
Labour would gulp more than 2m.
He digs a bore hole or he buys water.....buying water will cost more than 200k for the project.
Tiles, windows, doors, window protector, piping, painting
PHCN meters for each shops.

What about landscaping the building?




Do your research, people over spend when building if you have the money.


I remember when I was building my first house, a three bedrooms bungalow. All the Aluminum guys quoted 350k to 400k. Until when I went to Aluminum village at Dopemu did my costing and found out that 100k will buy the materials needed, at the end of the day I was able to do the job for 180k..

Hope you bought the real aluminum sheet? How many meters did you buy in total, and what was the thickness?.
very nice...it depends on location.
For example at my location things are generally expensive. Its cheaper buying from Lagos and transporting it here.
Yesterday I went out to buy a solar battery...12v65ah was being sold at 45k, but in Lagos its 26k...
So location matters

JMEN:
Am a Quantity surveyor chat me 08033574397 for what you ask 30m can do if land is already there and again depending on the location of the work and how big the shop would be...I have done similar estimate. I also design structures in other words am also an architect.

This your advert is unethical in the built environment. Are you a structural and M&E engineer too?
This won't take you anywhere except you learn how to package.
A lot of professionals claim to also do what other professionals do which is very BAD.

Maybe you should rephrase your comment to " you are ___________ development consultants which consists of engineers, Architects and Quantity surveyors.you render services like project designs, costing etc.
Sound professional if you want to be jack of all trades if not you will only be beating round the bush and your hustle won't yeild results.

dammyllare:


You are totally wrong.
The mistake you guys make is not understanding how construction works. The civil engineer is the head of construction, he has an idea regarding all other aspect of construction be it architectural, quantity survey, structural work.

The work he is trying to do includes architectural work, civil work, mechanical work, electrical work, quantity surveyor.

Architects are now coming in to do an engineer's work but believe me I have handled many site where an architect tries to do an engineer's work and they end up spending more.

To the OP, my advice is for you to get a design from an architect first which satisfy your taste, get a structural drawing too, then a mechanical drawing plus electrical.
Afterward, get a Q,.S to quantify base on cost of materials, labour in the area the project will be situated.
You can know or have an idea of the cost then.

Note, after the whole cost has been drawn out, let your civil engineer still work out reduction in the cost because as an engineer on site, we always have a way to reduce at least 15% of the intended cost.
All the best!

Point of correction,the Architect is the head of the construction team.Without his design the structural,electrical and mechanical can not produce its own drawings and specifications.However,without the Architect drawings the QS can not prepare BOQ.Simple no long story.

Adegunle4:
...are you kidding me...
Where did you get that from?
I know you’d like to like to portray a civil Engr as being more important lol..
Respect the one who conceptualizes the project even when a dot is not yet on paper. He by far leads the team and that’s the Architect.
Get your hierarchy right bro.

I am not fighting you bro,
Why an architect is important on a project is because he owns the design, it was his dream and he needed to be involved to ensure all his dreams for the project is being actualised.
The type of materials to be used is dependent on him as all these details were his dream.
But on the site and in construction, a Civil Engineer is the leader.
An architect comes to check if something is wrong with the design and if not gives the instruction to the engineer who then brings it to reality.

If it comes to construction, costing, qualities of materials.. Ask the Engineer and the QS.
Get your design from the Architect.
Besides, are you an Architect?

emmanuelewumi:



Haba. The property is a storey building that will be built on probably a 660 square meter plot of land.

Same fund will build a block of 4, 3 bedroom flats and if you are experienced in building of houses you will still have change

Bros what about 4 blocks of 2 bedroom flat on a 120 by 30 land.

sirblend:

Hope you bought the real aluminum sheet? How many meters did you buy in total, and what was the thickness?.
very nice...it depends on location.
For example at my location things are generally expensive. Its cheaper buying from Lagos and transporting it here.
Yesterday I went out to buy a solar battery...12v65ah was being sold at 45k, but in Lagos its 26k...
So location matters

Yes, I have been using it for the past 10 years and I have had no cause to change or repair it. The building was a DIY, I have also recouped the money I spent building the property.

Before building do your research, the internet has made things easy

And when building for rental or Investment make sure the rental income will give you a minimum PE of 15 .

Eg the property that cost you N30 million to complete should give you a minimum rental income of N2 million

Jomandi13:

Point of correction,the Architect is the head of the construction team.Without his design the structural,electrical and mechanical can not produce its own drawings and specifications.However,without the Architect drawings the QS can not prepare BOQ.Simple no long story.

You are absolutely right because the design is the Architect's idea except in steel and engineering designs where the structural engineer replaces the role of the Architect.

Jomandi13:

Point of correction,the Architect is the head of the construction team.Without his design the structural,electrical and mechanical can not produce its own drawings and specifications.However,without the Architect drawings the QS can not prepare BOQ.Simple no long story.

I understand your point Sir.
I have given the answer to someone up there.
The chain in construction is known.
It is the Architect 's which is being actualised by the Engineer.
On the site, the engineer is in charge!

Contact me @ maxdamsengineering when you r good to go for advice. U need a minimum of a plot in d north for your complex. 30 million will be enough if the soil has a good load bearing capacity.

Considering the current economic trend, 30M wont be enough in any city unless you are going for the rural areas or undeveloped part of the city. You should get a parcel of land and contact your civil engr and architect

emmanuelewumi:



Yes, I have been using it for the past 10 years and I have had no cause to change or repair it. The building was a DIY, I have also recouped the money I spent building the property.

Before building do your research, the internet has made things easy.

And when building for rental or Investment make sure the rental income will give you a minimum PE of 15 .

Eg the property that cost you N30 million to complete should give you a minimum rental income of N2 million

Please where on the internet can one learn more about building.

Seunaj05:
For the actual building itself you don't even need 30 million. If it's just complex without any serious interior furnishings, 15 million should do the magic. However, you will need a minimum of 100 by 150 meters for the structure, 50 by 150 will also work if you don't mind an ample parking space. The cost of the land itself can be a challenge depending on the location you want. Getting a plot of land in fairly promising location can cost you around 15 million and above. Goodluck in your choice

I wonder why they are saying 30 million won't be enough for a storey building of 20 shops,no POP,minimal wirings and electrical accessories e.t.c. The major part that takes huge chunk of a project like this is German floor, decking and roofing.
If the op monitors the project he will still have enough leftover millions to start another project

schoolboi:


Please where on the internet can one learn more about building.

Google for cost of building maerials, building designs, and other information that are necessary when building

30 milion cant finish that building irespective of ur location. give it 40 milion, ur work will be perfect, u did not even consider parking space,

Yes, in birnin kebbi, Damaturu or dutse.

COMPENGRFRANK:
BRO I WILL ADVICE YOU DON'T DO BUSINESS HERE WITH ANYONE TILL YOU SEE HIM/HER FACE TO FACE.ALMOST 90% OF PEOPLE HERE ARE SCAMMERS SO BEWARE!!!

God bless you.

As far, you are not furnituring the complex or buying the land for the project. #30m will complete the job for you. Moreover Location matters too but you said north. Your Good to Go.
Since the project is a next year plan. You can inject the funds in secured investment with 10% returns montly. By next year will have more than enough to finish the project.
My suggestion.

U are fantasizing ,you gat no 30m

arcahmad:
To be frank N30M is ok. I am an architect from north precisely katsina, you cannot compire the cost of construction between the north and south taken some factors in to consideration, ranging from nature of the soil, labour and cost of materials. E.g l used to buy a strong block 9'' at the cost of 110 naira, which l know is cheaper than in south. Also labour is cheaper there, mason #2000, while labourer takes home #1000. Etc. Finally my advise to you is that you can ask them to comes up with presentation drawing for you so that you can consult your architect may be in south or somebody with technical know how on building matters. Dont be deceived shine your eyes very well. I wish you all the best.

Hey bros am in katsina state g.r a to be precise can u send me ur phone number

This is a hoax aimed at currying LIKES & SHARES on Nairaland. Someone who suffered to make 30 million naira must have been robustly built enough with experience to not resort to cheap help from Nairaland. That's unnecessary grandstanding! Playing to the gallery!!

COMPENGRFRANK:
BRO I WILL ADVICE YOU DON'T DO BUSINESS HERE WITH ANYONE TILL YOU SEE HIM/HER FACE TO FACE.ALMOST 90% OF PEOPLE HERE ARE SCAMMERS SO BEWARE!!!

Why 90% ? Why not everybody ?? Ode