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Jadsy01:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/thenationonlineng.net/oyemade-disagrees-with-oyedepo-oyakhilome-on-closure-of-churches/amp/

Close or open churches are both right. Let the holy spirit lead.

litigator:
How many church buildings did Apostles Peter and Paul build?

Atleast, they wrote over 75% of the new testament. The church in Ephisus, was it a physical building during the days of the great persecution?

Also, juxtapose your assertion with the Biblical elucidations that " the kingdom of God is within thee". Luke 17:20-21, particularly at verse 21.

Also, the old church shared everything in common and non lacked. Even those who had benefited from the good will of others but wanted to be greedy with theirs, met fatal punishment. How well has our modern church copied such precedent? Acts 4: 30-End; Acts 5.

During this period of Covid-19, how well is the church resources being shared amongst members of the church and by extension, members of the public as a tool of evangelism?

Jesus fed the congregation because He knew the importance of food to the body(biological feeding), and salvation to the soul( spiritual feeding).

How well has our church emulated this biblical precedent during covid-19. Is this not the best time to win souls to the kingdom via the apt deployment of both mechanism?

Jesus and Apostle Peter were both leaders of the Church, both yet they knew they were trustees of the church, thus, gave good account of stewardship and didn't owe much personal property. Acts 4:32-End

Even Jesus lead by example by borrowing the a colt He used for triumphant entry. He could afford to buy one of the very best, and just will be justified because it is for the propagation of the gospel , but instead borrowed one. Mark 11:3.

***Take notice that this is a lame excuse being used by our religious leaders in an attempt to justify the luxurious lifestyle and the acquisition of aircrafts and phantom automobiles. But that is a discourse for another day.

From Apostle Peter's encounter with the man at the beautiful gate, it is apt to conclude that He didn't control the church resources even as a leader and pastor of the first church. He thus gave freely that which he had which was his annoiting and heal the man of his infermity. Can same be said for modern day pastors and spiritual leaders? What changed?

Finally, lockdown has been lifted in some parts of the western world such as Italy where the church began, but the physical place of congregation is still under lockdown. Most of these pastors have church branches within such domicile, why are they not condemning the govt of such state as they do Nigeria?

Kindly educate my ignorance.

I await your timely response, God bless.

I am an Omnist and Bible student. I know there are 4200+ religion in our modern day world, and that God is not a Christian, but He is" I am that I am".

Reference: God is not a Christian by Archbishop Desmond Tutu.

I offer my highest regards.

I have questions for my Muslim brothers too, but we will address that another day. Shalom.

This is where I agreed with you. "Finally, lockdown has been lifted in some parts of the western world such as Italy where the church began, but the physical place of congregation is still under lockdown. Most of these pastors have church branches within such domicile, why are they not condemning the govt of such state as they do Nigeria?"

Openbusiness:
I stand with Pastor Chris and Bishop Oyedepo! Pastor Chris we know, Bishop Oyedepo we know, hu be this wan?

When it comes to principle of sound thinking, this Man is 1000km ahead from those names u mentioned. number of congregants doesn't determine who is the most mentally stable pastor.

litigator:
How many church buildings did Apostles Peter and Paul build?

Atleast, they wrote over 75% of the new testament. The church in Ephisus, was it a physical building during the days of the great persecution?

Also, juxtapose your assertion with the Biblical elucidations that " the kingdom of God is within thee". Luke 17:20-21, particularly at verse 21.

Also, the old church shared everything in common and non lacked. Even those who had benefited from the good will of others but wanted to be greedy with theirs, met fatal punishment. How well has our modern church copied such precedent? Acts 4: 30-End; Acts 5.

During this period of Covid-19, how well is the church resources being shared amongst members of the church and by extension, members of the public as a tool of evangelism?

Jesus fed the congregation because He knew the importance of food to the body(biological feeding), and salvation to the soul( spiritual feeding).

How well has our church emulated this biblical precedent during covid-19. Is this not the best time to win souls to the kingdom via the apt deployment of both mechanism?

Jesus and Apostle Peter were both leaders of the Church, both yet they knew they were trustees of the church, thus, gave good account of stewardship and didn't owe much personal property. Acts 4:32-End

Even Jesus lead by example by borrowing the a colt He used for triumphant entry. He could afford to buy one of the very best, and just will be justified because it is for the propagation of the gospel , but instead borrowed one. Mark 11:3.

***Take notice that this is a lame excuse being used by our religious leaders in an attempt to justify the luxurious lifestyle and the acquisition of aircrafts and phantom automobiles. But that is a discourse for another day.

From Apostle Peter's encounter with the man at the beautiful gate, it is apt to conclude that He didn't control the church resources even as a leader and pastor of the first church. He thus gave freely that which he had which was his annoiting and heal the man of his infermity. Can same be said for modern day pastors and spiritual leaders? What changed?

Finally, lockdown has been lifted in some parts of the western world such as Italy where the church began, but the physical place of congregation is still under lockdown. Most of these pastors have church branches within such domicile, why are they not condemning the govt of such state as they do Nigeria?

Kindly educate my ignorance.

I await your timely response, God bless.

I am an Omnist and Bible student. I know there are 4200+ religion in our modern day world, and that God is not a Christian, but He is" I am that I am".

Reference: God is not a Christian by Archbishop Desmond Tutu.

I offer my highest regards.

I have questions for my Muslim brothers too, but we will address that another day. Shalom.

words on MARBLE!...thumbs up.

People under the oppression and yoke of bondage under Oyedipo and Chris will see no wisdom in what this guy is saying. The building is not the church and the church does not need the building to be the church. Christ in you is the hope of Glory. Church is not just a person , church is a person carrying divinity inside, and can function anywhere anytime and anyplace. This NIGERIA pastorprenuer are evil.

At this time I think the church should invest more of their time in prayers against this pandemic which seems to be gaining grounds against humanity.

litigator:
Has this gathering not be taking place in a family setting and online via the deployment of the online church? Has gathering stopped? Assuming there was military warfare with bombs raining down from the sky and bullets in all directions, will you advocate any form of physical assembly?

Is it in any way different from this biological warfare the world is fighting at this time?

In Acts 4:30-32, the old congregation gathered, was it in a church?

Pastors have often time posited that they saw a vision wherein the good Lord revealed to them that they will address millions and billions of congregants from a single location. Don't you think that prophecy is presently been fulfiled via the deployment of the online church as such pastors now address millions of online worshippers from one spot? Is this not a church or a gathering in satisfaction of your rejoinder?

Did the Isrealites congregate in the temple in times of war?

By the way, you did not address the second and third arm of my question. Are being dodgy and cherry picking?

God bless you!

I don't need any help from anyone now bro, I am giving out instead.

Olarewaju89:
Just the way your fail government brainwashed you.. What the they offer you now?

litigator:
How many church buildings did Apostles Peter and Paul build?

Atleast, they wrote over 75% of the new testament. The church in Ephisus, was it a physical building during the days of the great persecution?

Also, juxtapose your assertion with the Biblical elucidations that " the kingdom of God is within thee". Luke 17:20-21, particularly at verse 21.

Also, the old church shared everything in common and non lacked. Even those who had benefited from the good will of others but wanted to be greedy with theirs, met fatal punishment. How well has our modern church copied such precedent? Acts 4: 30-End; Acts 5.

During this period of Covid-19, how well is the church resources being shared amongst members of the church and by extension, members of the public as a tool of evangelism?

Jesus fed the congregation because He knew the importance of food to the body(biological feeding), and salvation to the soul( spiritual feeding).

How well has our church emulated this biblical precedent during covid-19. Is this not the best time to win souls to the kingdom via the apt deployment of both mechanism?

Jesus and Apostle Peter were both leaders of the Church, both yet they knew they were trustees of the church, thus, gave good account of stewardship and didn't owe much personal property. Acts 4:32-End

Even Jesus lead by example by borrowing the a colt He used for triumphant entry. He could afford to buy one of the very best, and just will be justified because it is for the propagation of the gospel , but instead borrowed one. Mark 11:3.

***Take notice that this is a lame excuse being used by our religious leaders in an attempt to justify the luxurious lifestyle and the acquisition of aircrafts and phantom automobiles. But that is a discourse for another day.

From Apostle Peter's encounter with the man at the beautiful gate, it is apt to conclude that He didn't control the church resources even as a leader and pastor of the first church. He thus gave freely that which he had which was his annoiting and heal the man of his infermity. Can same be said for modern day pastors and spiritual leaders? What changed?

Finally, lockdown has been lifted in some parts of the western world such as Italy where the church began, but the physical place of congregation is still under lockdown. Most of these pastors have church branches within such domicile, why are they not condemning the govt of such state as they do Nigeria?

Kindly educate my ignorance.

I await your timely response, God bless.

I am an Omnist and Bible student. I know there are 4200+ religion in our modern day world, and that God is not a Christian, but He is" I am that I am".

Reference: God is not a Christian by Archbishop Desmond Tutu.

I offer my highest regards.

I have questions for my Muslim brothers too, but we will address that another day. Shalom.

You just earn my "following "

You stated it beyond my expression. Let them answer you with scripture

This one get sense.

Government sef



If I'm the president, I'll tell the NCDC and security officials to allow any cleric who wants to expose themselves to patients to do that





They can go there to do their prayers and healing hand in hand with health officials




But each visit is at visitors risk.

The Bible says, do not forsake the assembly of your brethren. Hebrew 10 v 25

Digitalstarlite:
Sebi is Pastors like Eneche in Abuja dat has given foods 4 d 4th time in Nigeria... D ones wit high following, d worth of dere donation has not even #10m


Na to dey collect offering every Sunday wit no impact on d vulnerable in dere church...

A country where dere is no law, dere is no sin

Are you saying Pastor Chris has given nothing??

KingJa:
The white man and Arab man’s religion has ruined my country and set our continent back by at least 500 years.

Until our people do away with religion Africa will never catch up with the rest of the world, simple and plain.

The church keeps leading from the front
Some people that have never done anything worthy of note even in their compound will still find one thing to say against the church. But it keeps marching on
Some will say Pastors and other religious leaders are waiting for cure from science before they can resume their business
Virus that started from science laboratory. Who else will provide cure if not science.
Did we hear it started from any religious place.
Others will say Religion is looking up to Science in this time. Science is leading
And I ask. Are these Scientist aliens
Or don't you know their many 'religious' scientist around the world.
Even most of the men of old that fronted for science were religious men
Isaac Newton
Michael Faraday
Gregor Mendel
Galileo Galilee
Al Quarismo (famous Arab scholar)
According to the great physicist and genius of the 20th century Albert Einstein, "Science without religion is Lame."
Atheism doesn't make you are smart.
It's not by too much grammar.
Most men that change the world of science na religious men.
Atheist na talk dem sabi

crooked pastors, they are all in the business of peddling false hopes, healings and miracles.

Their so called healings and miracle powers has suddenlly disappeared now they are needed.


I pity their gullible worshippers.

honeyB2018:
Pastor Poju, is 100% wrong. I'm not surprised he can spew this nonsense.
Lots of people, don't see and understand what Bishop Oyedepo and Pastor Oyakhilome Chris is seeing and talking about. Lots of you, toeing the line of thought of Pastor Oyemade, don't know, the power of the cooperate church. If you know, you will not be in his support.
You don't know, what damage, spiritually the closure of the place of worship has done to lots of believers, lots of Christians will never be the same after this lockdown and closure Wait till the closure is lifted, then you will understand.
I stand with Bishop Oyedepo and Pastor Chris. Oyakhilome.

How do you mean, lots of Christians won't be the same anymore when the lockdown is lifted.

petra1:
This is not about buildings it's about the fact that The church is a gathering. And its ordained to gather




Matthew 18:20
For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.

Hebrews 10:25
Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.

1 Corinthians 5:4
In the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, when ye are gathered together, and my spirit, with the power of our Lord Jesus Christ,

So people cannot gather together in families?

idonhammer:
I don't need any help from anyone now bro, I am giving out instead.

Good, but stop saying rubbish pls. The things of god is not something you can joke with and start talking rubbish. Pls be wise in your own thoughts.

Ok

SUCKER PUNCH,

ĶNOCKOUT PUNCH.

God have mercy! Holy Spirit please open our eyes to your wisdom in this perilious time.

litigator:
How many church buildings did Apostles Peter and Paul build?

Atleast, they wrote over 75% of the new testament. The church in Ephisus, was it a physical building during the days of the great persecution?

Also, juxtapose your assertion with the Biblical elucidations that " the kingdom of God is within thee". Luke 17:20-21, particularly at verse 21.

Also, the old church shared everything in common and non lacked. Even those who had benefited from the good will of others but wanted to be greedy with theirs, met fatal punishment. How well has our modern church copied such precedent? Acts 4: 30-End; Acts 5.

During this period of Covid-19, how well is the church resources being shared amongst members of the church and by extension, members of the public as a tool of evangelism?

Jesus fed the congregation because He knew the importance of food to the body(biological feeding), and salvation to the soul( spiritual feeding).

How well has our church emulated this biblical precedent during covid-19. Is this not the best time to win souls to the kingdom via the apt deployment of both mechanism?

Jesus and Apostle Peter were both leaders of the Church, both yet they knew they were trustees of the church, thus, gave good account of stewardship and didn't owe much personal property. Acts 4:32-End

Even Jesus lead by example by borrowing the a colt He used for triumphant entry. He could afford to buy one of the very best, and just will be justified because it is for the propagation of the gospel , but instead borrowed one. Mark 11:3.

***Take notice that this is a lame excuse being used by our religious leaders in an attempt to justify the luxurious lifestyle and the acquisition of aircrafts and phantom automobiles. But that is a discourse for another day.

From Apostle Peter's encounter with the man at the beautiful gate, it is apt to conclude that He didn't control the church resources even as a leader and pastor of the first church. He thus gave freely that which he had which was his annoiting and heal the man of his infermity. Can same be said for modern day pastors and spiritual leaders? What changed?

Finally, lockdown has been lifted in some parts of the western world such as Italy where the church began, but the physical place of congregation is still under lockdown. Most of these pastors have church branches within such domicile, why are they not condemning the govt of such state as they do Nigeria?

Kindly educate my ignorance.

I await your timely response, God bless.

I am an Omnist and Bible student. I know there are 4200+ religion in our modern day world, and that God is not a Christian, but He is" I am that I am".

Reference: God is not a Christian by Archbishop Desmond Tutu.

I offer my highest regards.

I have questions for my Muslim brothers too, but we will address that another day. Shalom.

somebody give this man cold bear any number of bottles i will pay.

Only God can help us..pastors have issues..end time calling.

sgtponzihater1:
So people cannot gather together in families?

OK. If they gather together, then they have disobey the rules of social-distance according to the NCDC guidelines

litigator:
How many church buildings did Apostles Peter and Paul build?

Atleast, they wrote over 75% of the new testament. The church in Ephisus, was it a physical building during the days of the great persecution?

Also, juxtapose your assertion with the Biblical elucidations that " the kingdom of God is within thee". Luke 17:20-21, particularly at verse 21.

Also, the old church shared everything in common and non lacked. Even those who had benefited from the good will of others but wanted to be greedy with theirs, met fatal punishment. How well has our modern church copied such precedent? Acts 4: 30-End; Acts 5.

During this period of Covid-19, how well is the church resources being shared amongst members of the church and by extension, members of the public as a tool of evangelism?

Jesus fed the congregation because He knew the importance of food to the body(biological feeding), and salvation to the soul( spiritual feeding).

How well has our church emulated this biblical precedent during covid-19. Is this not the best time to win souls to the kingdom via the apt deployment of both mechanism?

Jesus and Apostle Peter were both leaders of the Church, both yet they knew they were trustees of the church, thus, gave good account of stewardship and didn't owe much personal property. Acts 4:32-End

Even Jesus lead by example by borrowing the a colt He used for triumphant entry. He could afford to buy one of the very best, and just will be justified because it is for the propagation of the gospel , but instead borrowed one. Mark 11:3.

***Take notice that this is a lame excuse being used by our religious leaders in an attempt to justify the luxurious lifestyle and the acquisition of aircrafts and phantom automobiles. But that is a discourse for another day.

From Apostle Peter's encounter with the man at the beautiful gate, it is apt to conclude that He didn't control the church resources even as a leader and pastor of the first church. He thus gave freely that which he had which was his annoiting and heal the man of his infermity. Can same be said for modern day pastors and spiritual leaders? What changed?

Finally, lockdown has been lifted in some parts of the western world such as Italy where the church began, but the physical place of congregation is still under lockdown. Most of these pastors have church branches within such domicile, why are they not condemning the govt of such state as they do Nigeria?

Kindly educate my ignorance.

I await your timely response, God bless.

I am an Omnist and Bible student. I know there are 4200+ religion in our modern day world, and that God is not a Christian, but He is" I am that I am".

Reference: God is not a Christian by Archbishop Desmond Tutu.

I offer my highest regards.

I have questions for my Muslim brothers too, but we will address that another day. Shalom.

The church keeps leading from the front
Some people that have never done anything worthy of note even in their compound will still find one thing to say against the church. But it keeps marching on
Some will say Pastors and other religious leaders are waiting for cure from science before they can resume their business
Virus that started from science laboratory. Who else will provide cure if not science.
Did we hear it started from any religious place.
Others will say Religion is looking up to Science in this time. Science is leading
And I ask. Are these Scientist aliens
Or don't you know their many 'religious' scientist around the world.
Even most of the men of old that fronted for science were religious men
Isaac Newton
Michael Faraday
Gregor Mendel
Galileo Galilee
Al Quarismo (famous Arab scholar)
According to the great physicist and genius of the 20th century Albert Einstein, "Science without religion is Lame."
Atheism doesn't make you are smart.
It's not by too much grammar.
Most men that change the world of science na religious men.
Atheist na talk dem sabi

Openbusiness:
I stand with Pastor Chris and Bishop Oyedepo! Pastor Chris we know, Bishop Oyedepo we know, hu be this wan?

Don't let me say you are foolish , but I doubt if you have sense. How has church contributed to the economy of the country?. Don't let me talk too much .

honeyB2018:
Pastor Poju, is 100% wrong. I'm not surprised he can spew this nonsense.
Lots of people, don't see and understand what Bishop Oyedepo and Pastor Oyakhilome Chris is seeing and talking about. Lots of you, toeing the line of thought of Pastor Oyemade, don't know, the power of the cooperate church. If you know, you will not be in his support.
You don't know, what damage, spiritually the closure of the place of worship has done to lots of believers, lots of Christians will never be the same after this lockdown and closure Wait till the closure is lifted, then you will understand.
I stand with Bishop Oyedepo and Pastor Chris. Oyakhilome.

If u are telling us many christians will not remain the same spiritually...it means they are yet to be born again rather they are just church goers. If u claimed to be born again all u need is for u to be strengthening ur inner mind with daily dose of the word of God and prayer. Whether u go before one Pastor or not does not change the power within u as long as u observe those activities of a true christian. Everything a christian needs is within our reach but bcoz most of them has failed to see or to admit. This is the period to practise wot those Pastors have been teaching u so far if u are truly being born again well or do u think the salvation of those Pastors or their teaching is wot qualifies u for heaven? U need personal conviction on wot u believe in as a christian and u will see the holy spirit revealing things to u, revelations u are depending on ur Pastors for...

honeyB2018:
Pastor Poju, is 100% wrong. I'm not surprised he can spew this nonsense.
Lots of people, don't see and understand what Bishop Oyedepo and Pastor Oyakhilome Chris is seeing and talking about. Lots of you, toeing the line of thought of Pastor Oyemade, don't know, the power of the cooperate church. If you know, you will not be in his support.
You don't know, what damage, spiritually the closure of the place of worship has done to lots of believers, lots of Christians will never be the same after this lockdown and closure Wait till the closure is lifted, then you will understand.
I stand with Bishop Oyedepo and Pastor Chris. Oyakhilome.

the God of Oyedepo and the God of Oyakhilome permitted this to happen to his own (believers) people?

What an omnipotent God!

In fact,I cannot see any healing done by Jesus in the temple(church),I'm not too sure,bible student,kindly help out pls.

Recall that Pastor Oyakhilome of Christ Embassy and Bishop Oyedepo of Winners Chapel criticized the federal government for sidelining churches when it eased the lockdown in Lagos, Ogun, and Abuja. In his response to this criticism, Pastor Oyemade said the closure of churches does not in any way stop the Holy Spirit from working. Making reference to the Bible, he said: “The sick healed in the book of Acts were healed on the streets, in people’s homes, in public places and not within the four walls of a Church.”

He said true faith and the anointing of the Spirit has not stopped working even though churches have been shut down. Pastor Oyemade said: “Closing the doors of a physical building does not in any way mean the closure of the anointing of the Spirit from working. “Church buildings may be shut down but true faith and the anointing of the Spirit has not stopped working.” According to the man of God, there is nowhere in Jesus’s ministry where the healing of the sick was preceded by a congregational service.

See the post here - https://www.ekomiami.com.ng/2020/05/08/pastor-oyemade-disagrees-with-oyedepo-oyakhilome-on-the-closure-of-churches/