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Re: Pastor Oyemade Disagrees With Oyedepo, Oyakhilome On The Closure Of Churches by Olarewaju89: 11:00am On May 09, 2020 |
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Re: Pastor Oyemade Disagrees With Oyedepo, Oyakhilome On The Closure Of Churches by aalangel(f): 11:01am On May 09, 2020 |
Digitalstarlite: Answer my question outright. |
Re: Pastor Oyemade Disagrees With Oyedepo, Oyakhilome On The Closure Of Churches by semyman: 11:02am On May 09, 2020 |
How can they use POS on the street How can they format the gullible maga if not inside a building Scammers turned prosperity crooners everywhere 2 Likes |
Re: Pastor Oyemade Disagrees With Oyedepo, Oyakhilome On The Closure Of Churches by Horlasmart: 11:02am On May 09, 2020 |
litigator: What's your question for the muslim |
Re: Pastor Oyemade Disagrees With Oyedepo, Oyakhilome On The Closure Of Churches by Nobody: 11:03am On May 09, 2020 |
LearnITsmash: May the God of heaven answer you speedily. |
Re: Pastor Oyemade Disagrees With Oyedepo, Oyakhilome On The Closure Of Churches by Angelfrost(m): 11:03am On May 09, 2020 |
Wolgrace: You clearly don't read your Bible that well... Apostle Paul, Christ, Elijah, etc, didn't hold back criticism and correction (even openly) when needed. What Sir. Oyemade did is very timely and been in need for years now. 3 Likes |
Re: Pastor Oyemade Disagrees With Oyedepo, Oyakhilome On The Closure Of Churches by Reference(m): 11:03am On May 09, 2020 |
honeyB2018: I agree and disagree with you. Indeed, quite contrary to popular opinion, over the ages the church has not always been the obedient servant to the state. There are well documented instances in the scripture where gatherings held despite decrees from the Roman occupancy of Judea, the Roman empire, various kingdoms througout the Middle Ages and uptil now in nations such as China. People have defied authority to congregate. People have disobeyed authorities to fellowship. The Scriptures make it clear that even in the face of peril which includes pestilence that folks do express their love for God by defiance. That is true and has happened in recorded scripture. So those who say you can worship in isolation should understand that there will be no church today as we know it if every edict of goverments has been obeyed throughout the ages. However there is a new line of argument here, one that appears to single out the leadership of the church, particularly of modern day pentecostals that seems to ask that why is it that with all the resources of technology, face to face contact or fellowship remains necessary in difficult times such as this. That pentecostals with their vast resources and modernised approach to church activity find it difficult to adapt. Is there an underlying reason, physical or spiritual for having your sheep in real time, not virtual contact. Is there something the Christian is desperately missing by the lack of physical contact. If there is, is it possible that these tools have either been missing in the structure of the church or been deliberately ignored so that physical contact is inevitable. Let us be blunt here. Are these churches reallt concerned about the health of the souls of men or more concerned about the loss of congregational numbers/members. That is those who post Covid will rather continue virtual worship or those because of the lockdown have found other assemblies they will not normally go. Is it about spiritual sustenace or just numerical sustenance. What are these pastors really so concerned about. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Pastor Oyemade Disagrees With Oyedepo, Oyakhilome On The Closure Of Churches by Amorprincesa24: 11:04am On May 09, 2020 |
That's because of freedom of speech. The other religion lacks that. You can be beheaded for saying words against Mohammad or their Allah. 12345DKO: 1 Like |
Re: Pastor Oyemade Disagrees With Oyedepo, Oyakhilome On The Closure Of Churches by Mozegee: 11:05am On May 09, 2020 |
I don't really know much about you Sir ,but God will bless you for saying the simple truth. |
Re: Pastor Oyemade Disagrees With Oyedepo, Oyakhilome On The Closure Of Churches by kabillionaire(m): 11:05am On May 09, 2020 |
Good points! tell them pastorneurs. 1 Like |
Re: Pastor Oyemade Disagrees With Oyedepo, Oyakhilome On The Closure Of Churches by damosade(m): 11:06am On May 09, 2020 |
Even God respects government according to romans 12. Someone in his right senses should obey convid 19 lockdown decision after all it is for our own good and it is not they are locking down church forever. Did anyone locked church pre convid? |
Re: Pastor Oyemade Disagrees With Oyedepo, Oyakhilome On The Closure Of Churches by Karemarealty288(m): 11:07am On May 09, 2020 |
honeyB2018: Receive Sense ohhhh sheepie.
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Re: Pastor Oyemade Disagrees With Oyedepo, Oyakhilome On The Closure Of Churches by desiredhome: 11:09am On May 09, 2020 |
tfelicityk:Because they are mostly after money.....the love of money is the root of all evil,..... Church for their belly |
Re: Pastor Oyemade Disagrees With Oyedepo, Oyakhilome On The Closure Of Churches by Nobody: 11:12am On May 09, 2020 |
TimiRume: Study the theological jurisprudence of the early church and revert. But to answer your question, the early church began from the Province of the Judea which was part of the Roman empire at that time. The Herold and Pilates were all sub-regional head of government and served at the pleasure of the Roman emperor. You can look it up on google, or consider the elucidations in the bible books of Matthew, Luke and Mark. 4 Likes |
Re: Pastor Oyemade Disagrees With Oyedepo, Oyakhilome On The Closure Of Churches by Shattuck(m): 11:12am On May 09, 2020 |
Phaedrus:let this fools be thinking that they should be given a special status the closure is a general thing for me according to the order of importance for the easing of the lockdown I would say markets first,then business centres,then schools, then industrial outlets before anything else,for most pastors the church is a business outlet too. 2 Likes |
Re: Pastor Oyemade Disagrees With Oyedepo, Oyakhilome On The Closure Of Churches by GoldHorse(m): 11:13am On May 09, 2020 |
Oyedepo and Pastor Chris should simply go to any isolation center of their choice. Stay outside and release the healing and miracle power of God and people will be healed, abi? When the people and governments see this undeniable healing demonstration they will beg for churches to be opened. They should try this formula and thank me later! We dey wait.... 2 Likes |
Re: Pastor Oyemade Disagrees With Oyedepo, Oyakhilome On The Closure Of Churches by sirelliotofafri: 11:13am On May 09, 2020 |
Closing the place of worship for about 2 months now deals a heavy blow to the body of Christ.If only we understand what it means for brethren to come together to worship....the Bible says 'it's like the anointing that flows through Aaron's beard down to his skirt'.The church deals a terrible blow to the kingdom of darkness whenever it comes together.Irrespective of how humble a man may sound that,closing church is good,it is not good for the body of Christ.Meanwhile,I understand it's also government effort to avoid people don't mix up to spread covid-19 |
Re: Pastor Oyemade Disagrees With Oyedepo, Oyakhilome On The Closure Of Churches by MT: 11:13am On May 09, 2020 |
honeyB2018: In this time of pandemics, this is the best time to win souls if a spiritual pronouncement can be made to stop this pandemic by any of the religious leaders. The world will believe in his God and religion. Churches and mosque should be go-to centres for people for spiritual healing, but they have all gone mute, even afraid of their own lives and families. It shows everything is a fraud. They claim to have the power of healing but we are all looking to the scientists to solve this global problems; one of them told me it was God that gave the scientists the knowledge to produce vaccine. I asked why God would abandon his direct constituencies (churches, mosques, shrines etc) and chose the scientists in their steads, it's simply not logical. 4 Likes |
Re: Pastor Oyemade Disagrees With Oyedepo, Oyakhilome On The Closure Of Churches by Essien45: 11:13am On May 09, 2020 |
I laugh at Pst. Poju. � If the government give directives tomorrow that religious places should open so he won't have service? Please, let's stop all this hyprocricy because at the end of the day he is a beneficiary. So stupidity is you coutering at the end of the day what will benefit you. Nonsense! |
Re: Pastor Oyemade Disagrees With Oyedepo, Oyakhilome On The Closure Of Churches by Digitalstarlite: 11:14am On May 09, 2020 |
aalangel:Babe...can u deliver ekankan soup to me |
Re: Pastor Oyemade Disagrees With Oyedepo, Oyakhilome On The Closure Of Churches by bigiyaro(m): 11:14am On May 09, 2020 |
if I talk say all those that vexing are just show men, they rely on the beautiful structures to show their oratory prowess and extort their gullible captives. They are vexing that their show houses are closed. 1 Like |
Re: Pastor Oyemade Disagrees With Oyedepo, Oyakhilome On The Closure Of Churches by Maykanu: 11:15am On May 09, 2020 |
So sad that my people perish for lack of knowledge. Openbusiness: |
Re: Pastor Oyemade Disagrees With Oyedepo, Oyakhilome On The Closure Of Churches by hybridblood07(m): 11:15am On May 09, 2020 |
In addition, God said where two or three are gathered, I'm with them. Let every church member pray individually or organize house fellowship till the virus is over PureGoldh: |
Re: Pastor Oyemade Disagrees With Oyedepo, Oyakhilome On The Closure Of Churches by Digitalstarlite: 11:16am On May 09, 2020 |
aalangel:Is e ur Pastor? And has e donated more dan #10m 1 Like |
Re: Pastor Oyemade Disagrees With Oyedepo, Oyakhilome On The Closure Of Churches by Angelfrost(m): 11:17am On May 09, 2020 |
Aksnoopy: Your criticism is erring terribly on the side of intelligence... That a person's political leanings differ badly from yours, doesn't completely make them unworthy of truth and wisdom here and now. |
Re: Pastor Oyemade Disagrees With Oyedepo, Oyakhilome On The Closure Of Churches by Grande007: 11:19am On May 09, 2020 |
Oga gan o, religion have reduced some people to zombies, lifeless without a mind of their own. Some pastors in a bid to remain relevant have been brewing controversies, from 5G to Bill Gates and now church closure. I expect true men of God to speak with authority and declare the mind of God on the pandemic. And not coming online to cry foul. Mosques are closed too, if you are not aware. Explore other mediums to reach your members (or are the mediums overshooting your expenditure above income?). There is more to this clamour for church re-opening and I expect people to be more wise. If the cost of streaming online is too much, then go back to the basics of cell fellowship with respect to social distancing. If two months or more of lock down of churches can affect your followers to lose faith or backslide, then as a pastor you have failed. Because it questions what you were teaching them before and during the lock down. Moses spent few years with his mother who was employed to care for him by divine providence. And could you believe that after Moses was brought up in the royal family and trained in Egyptian traditions for forty years. He didn't forget the fact that he was an Hebrew. Men of God should feed the flock whether the churches are open or not. |
Re: Pastor Oyemade Disagrees With Oyedepo, Oyakhilome On The Closure Of Churches by MT: 11:20am On May 09, 2020 |
sirelliotofafri: Let the truth be told, the " kingdom of devil " as you called it shut down churches, mosques, shrines etc. It is time for people to question their fates. No matter how you attempt to twist this, this a mass failure from so called different religions on a grand scale. It takes covid19 to expose the fraud in various religious bodies. 3 Likes |
Re: Pastor Oyemade Disagrees With Oyedepo, Oyakhilome On The Closure Of Churches by zedman1(m): 11:21am On May 09, 2020 |
Openbusiness:Sad bro, because you don't know him? See what 'Christianity' has been reduced to? |
Re: Pastor Oyemade Disagrees With Oyedepo, Oyakhilome On The Closure Of Churches by olarindeabayomi: 11:21am On May 09, 2020 |
This is what I have to say about this issue. The point is, I do not wish any pastor ill or say bad about them. If and only if one of those who are in support of the opening can just have the virus, maybe more of those advocating for churches to function would have a change of mind. If not because our government is being irresponsible, as of now most states that are highly affected should still be locked down but because the government claimed that they do not have enough to cater for the masses in terms of providing palliatives they decided to ease the lockdown which is still a gamble. The reason why churches and mosques or any religious gathering is affected is just because gathering is involved. This virus does not respect anyone not even a pastor. So we should give our brain and forget about been too spiritual because as far as I am concerned, 95% of Nigerians are hypocrites who don't have the fear God because we are just been religious and that's the bitter truth. If truly these are men of God, what I expect for them to do is call on God to end this menace and not clamoring for the church to open and endanger the lives of people. Another question, if you start worship in the church is that a guarantee that it will stop the virus or do that think that the virus does not exist? Are they saying there are no Christians in Italy, Spain, France who have locked down for more than 2 months. Are you saying you are more spiritual than them. You see, when common sense is not common, you see people arguing blindly. 1 Like |
Re: Pastor Oyemade Disagrees With Oyedepo, Oyakhilome On The Closure Of Churches by TimiRume(f): 11:22am On May 09, 2020 |
litigator:I don't have to check nothing, the history of the church is clear in the bible and has nothing to do with Rome. Whether they were part of a foreign empire or not it still does not alter the fact that the church started in Israel and spread to the rest of the world. It is ignorance like this that makes some Christians esteem Roman traditions above the Word of God. |
Re: Pastor Oyemade Disagrees With Oyedepo, Oyakhilome On The Closure Of Churches by Lastmankc(m): 11:22am On May 09, 2020 |
LearnITsmash:Guy, these men just they reason your matter
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