Welcome, Guest: Register On Nairaland / LOGIN! / Trending / Recent / New
Stats: 3,148,673 members, 7,801,941 topics. Date: Friday, 19 April 2024 at 06:29 AM

I Am An Atheist And A Humanist. Ask Me Anything! Let's Talk! - Religion (5) - Nairaland

Nairaland Forum / Nairaland / General / Religion / I Am An Atheist And A Humanist. Ask Me Anything! Let's Talk! (6648 Views)

Why Do Atheist And Devilist Attack Only Christianity?? / When "Proof" Is Presented To An Atheist And Skeptic / Can A Christian Be A Humanist? (2) (3) (4)

(1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) (7) (8) (9) (Reply) (Go Down)

Re: I Am An Atheist And A Humanist. Ask Me Anything! Let's Talk! by Monveronique: 9:05pm On May 23, 2020
whitelotus:
A lot of people have misconceptions about atheism and I want to set that straight. Also, some people might be curious and so, I want to help!


Please, feel free to ask any question about atheism or humanism that you want to!


Which person's death are you blaming on God?




cc muttleylaff, folykaze, joshthefirst, saucyxo, mjobolt, mekaprime, driggitydre, Empiree, lordreed
Re: I Am An Atheist And A Humanist. Ask Me Anything! Let's Talk! by Monveronique: 9:09pm On May 23, 2020
whitelotus:



Hello there!

It is impossible to prove anything after death. No one knows what happens when we die.

At best, one can theorise that we just cease to exist in the same way that we didn't exist before we were born.

Also, since the brain stops working when we die, it makes sense that we would lose all consciousness at death and we are gone forever.......


In summary, no one truly knows what happens when we are dead. Religions are just playing guessing games with heaven and hell.



Apparently you are misinformed. People know what happens after death and it is called the afterlife! And the brain is still alive for minutes after death. Read about Near death experience and out of body experience to recondition your thinking. There's is life after death because the soul doesn't die. This plane of existence is only transient at our core, we are energy and energy cannot be destroyed, it only mutates.
Re: I Am An Atheist And A Humanist. Ask Me Anything! Let's Talk! by Monveronique: 9:16pm On May 23, 2020
whitelotus:


It is very possible. But that is how far we can go for now.

This universe could have been coded by a celestial programmer or many celestial programmers. Some scientists infer this because of certain laws of physics and the universe having many consistent characteristics.

However, there exists no proof, only theories/guesses and as such, no reason to believe in a programmer God.


Do you think the universe is an accident. Do you know that a few inches closer to the earth and the sun will kill off all life in the earth. Do you know that thst interplanetary forces are perfectly poised to support gravity, that microscopic differences will alter. There is no clear proof of a God but the universe is clearly designed. It's too perfect not to be. Do you know about statistical indeterminacy that you can't simultaneously determine the position and momentum of an electron?Do you know if all the empty space in an atom collapsed, all the universe will fit into a grain of sand? Scientists can not account for that they call it dark matter. It shouldn't be possible but it is. Do you think these things are coincidences?
Re: I Am An Atheist And A Humanist. Ask Me Anything! Let's Talk! by Monveronique: 9:18pm On May 23, 2020
whitelotus:



1. I became an atheist after leaving christianity and studying Islam. I left both religions because they were both complicit in the enslavement of africans. They also had contradictions in there holy books. They also lack any evidence for their God.

2. All miracles are staged magic tricks. No amputee has ever grown his or her limbs back in a church or shrine.

3. If I die, I do not know what happens next. My educated guess is that I will return to nothing. I assume it would be like before I was born.

4. I survive by keeping my beliefs personal. I survive by working hard. God will not just put money into your pocket.



Can you point out contradictions in the bible?
Re: I Am An Atheist And A Humanist. Ask Me Anything! Let's Talk! by Monveronique: 9:19pm On May 23, 2020
whitelotus:



1. I became an atheist after leaving christianity and studying Islam. I left both religions because they were both complicit in the enslavement of africans. They also had contradictions in there holy books. They also lack any evidence for their God.

2. All miracles are staged magic tricks. No amputee has ever grown his or her limbs back in a church or shrine.

3. If I die, I do not know what happens next. My educated guess is that I will return to nothing. I assume it would be like before I was born.

4. I survive by keeping my beliefs personal. I survive by working hard. God will not just put money into your pocket.



If you don't believe in an afterlife, can you explain the mechanism of dreaming? You sure had a few haven't you?
Re: I Am An Atheist And A Humanist. Ask Me Anything! Let's Talk! by Nobody: 9:20pm On May 23, 2020
Ghostrye:

I'm not the OP so I don't want to take away his shine, but if I put up a soapbox and start, you will just have to use your super faith card to back yourself up. But just on hindsight, Google is not that far away from you and it has a better mood than me, so please use it

So if you're truthful with the bolded, then what are you doing here in the first place? cheesy

1 Like

Re: I Am An Atheist And A Humanist. Ask Me Anything! Let's Talk! by Monveronique: 9:23pm On May 23, 2020
whitelotus:


1. Let me give you a contradiction. If God is omniscient and knows the future, why does he get jealous? The bible says that God is a jealous god. He knows what will happen so why should be be emotional?


2. There are natural things that science cannot explain. Supernatural by definition does not exist.

3. Ok

4. I would say that I am non religious. I dont follow any religion



1. What is the definition of "jealousy?"

2. You just contradicted your self. What is the definition of supernatural?
3.


4. Actually atheism is a religion that claims not to be. The absence of evidence is not evidence of absence!
Re: I Am An Atheist And A Humanist. Ask Me Anything! Let's Talk! by Monveronique: 9:26pm On May 23, 2020
Maximus69:
@ Whitelotus!

Well it's about the concept of a Supreme Being (God).

Though ATHEISTS claims that humans can achieve PEACE on their own without the idea of God or Gods, but the God of the Bible foretold something really strange!

He said during the time when he is about to judge evildoers on this planet, PEACE will be taken away from the earth, and there will be no human society or group that will unite peacefully without the use of force, weapons or records of casualties to scare them from revolting against their own constituted authorities.

God said that is the time he will prove his power by uniting faithful individuals from different races under one umbrella in his own name, they will settle all their racial differences and bury prejudice so that PEACE will reign amongst them!

None of them will carry weapons for no reason whatsoever because from one extremity of the earth to the other extremity of the earth they will view themselves as one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers!

What really amazes me is what God said that this will be done when no human society is at PEACE! smiley

So he gave them a name that every nation of the earth will hear for a sign that there is no THEORY they can fabricate that will be able to achieve anything close to what they will see amongst his own people!

JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES!


I'm sorry but you guys are deluded and are in a cult. Mainstream Christianity do not share key concord with you guys. It's so admirable the amount of seriousness that ends up wasted.

1 Like

Re: I Am An Atheist And A Humanist. Ask Me Anything! Let's Talk! by Monveronique: 9:31pm On May 23, 2020
whitelotus:



Life is intrinsically meaningless. We are but a speck of dust compared to the total size of the universe. We live only to die. Every day we live is an other day closer to death. An asteroid could land on the earth and blow all of us to smithereens tomorrow.


Life lacks meaning. This does not mean that we cannot give our lives meaning. For example, there is a stone in my field- it is useless but i can choose to make it useful- I can choose to use it as a grinding stone or a weapon.

Think of life as a blank slate or chalkboard. It has no words or drawings on it. No meaning. It is our choice to either write on it or leave it blank.
=======================================

If you want to know how meaningless life is, just look at your Jesus. He really died for nothing. His torment at the cross did not even yield him followers among the Jews- his own people. Most Jews are not christian. Furthermore, almost 70% of people in the world are not christians. His message did not even move close to half of the world. And the numbers of christians are dwindling. Not only that, christianity has been so perverted today, that many even ask if Christians are truly like Christ.

=======================================

As an atheist and a humanist, I try to enjoy my life and make this world a better place because it is the only life I will have with my consciousness. I alone give my life the meaning or purpose that I want it to have.




You're partly right. The meaning of life is what we give it but at the same thing you're pandering to nihilism.
And Jesus didn't die for nothing. He died to save mankind. I suggest you listen to the late Ravi Zachrias to clear up a lot of stuff. What do you think is the problem of human race? What are the core needs of existence. It is meaning, Purpose, Origin and destiny. Atheism denies these things and yet they seek it at the back doors.
Re: I Am An Atheist And A Humanist. Ask Me Anything! Let's Talk! by Joshthefirst(m): 9:38pm On May 23, 2020
whitelotus:



Life is intrinsically meaningless. We are but a speck of dust compared to the total size of the universe. We live only to die. Every day we live is an other day closer to death. An asteroid could land on the earth and blow all of us to smithereens tomorrow.


Life lacks meaning. This does not mean that we cannot give our lives meaning. For example, there is a stone in my field- it is useless but i can choose to make it useful- I can choose to use it as a grinding stone or a weapon.

Think of life as a blank slate or chalkboard. It has no words or drawings on it. No meaning. It is our choice to either write on it or leave it blank.
How do you acknowledge the meaninglessness of a speck of dust such as your life is and then go ahead and say that you, in your meaningless existence, can give your short and meaningless life some meaning? You even go ahead and give a meaningless analogy. This is quite senseless. But more to come...

whitelotus:
=======================================

If you want to know how meaningless life is, just look at your Jesus. He really died for nothing. His torment at the cross did not even yield him followers among the Jews- his own people. Most Jews are not christian. Furthermore, almost 70% of people in the world are not christians. His message did not even move close to half of the world. And the numbers of christians are dwindling. Not only that, christianity has been so perverted today, that many even ask if Christians are truly like Christ.

=======================================
Jesus didn’t die for nothing, his torment has won him followers in the billions since his cross, there are currently about 500,000 messianic Jews with more to come, and you lie, Christianity is actually increasing in the world today. But this is a red herring, a bird cheesy
Could it be that faced with the unfortunate meaningless of your life and the fact that you can actually and logically do nothing to add any meaning to it, you try to distract the question and attack my religion? Is this what atheism and humanism is? A purported meaningless existence, the best its representatives can offer being to attack questioners who ask them the honest question of their foolish position? I wonder.

whitelotus:
As an atheist and a humanist, I try to enjoy my life and make this world a better place because it is the only life I will have with my consciousness. I alone give my life the meaning or purpose that I want it to have.


And this is the sum total of the foolishness of atheism folks:

A self proclaimed meaningless entity goes on to foolishly proclaim that he, in his meaningless existence, can infuse his meaningless life with meaning. From where please

And here is more, If this meaningless entity screams and believes that all life is meaningless, then what is the point of holding on to “logic” and “rationality” and “science”? And seemingly upholding them against religion? What is the point of seeking to explain anything of your meaningless views? Or struggling to share this meaningless and unfortunate way of life to others? If one truly believes we are all in the same meaningless blue mass?
Re: I Am An Atheist And A Humanist. Ask Me Anything! Let's Talk! by Ghostrye: 9:40pm On May 23, 2020
Maximus69:


So if you're truthful with the bolded, then what are you doing here in the first place? cheesy

Your stupidity is just appalling, if you want to have an argument or just to rub minds together with the OP, then you should do so without making yourself appear dumb. Your way of doing things makes me want to puke

2 Likes 1 Share

Re: I Am An Atheist And A Humanist. Ask Me Anything! Let's Talk! by odinson1(m): 9:49pm On May 23, 2020
Ponder deeply on this
HUSH, GOD IS SLEEPING
The biblical creation story is so flawed that some Christians try to find excuses for it. They say, the universe WAS created in 6 days but they were not literal days. They were days of millions or billions of years.
Does this make it better?
The Bible says the Earth was the first thing created but it wasn't—the Earth was created more than 9 billion years after the universe.
The Bible says God created a dome over the Earth (the firmament) to separate the oceans from the rain. This implies a flat Earth and no such dome exists.
To match the elapsed time since the beginning of the universe, a biblical creation day would have to be 2.3 billion years long which brings its own problems—like grass, plants and trees being created billions of years
But there is one way in which this idea is an improvement. The story says God rested on the seventh day. Since a day is 2.3 billion years, God must still be resting and will rest for another two billion years or so. Now THAT does help—that perfectly explains why we see no sign of God in the universe.
Re: I Am An Atheist And A Humanist. Ask Me Anything! Let's Talk! by odinson1(m): 9:50pm On May 23, 2020
Monveronique:



Do you think the universe is an accident. Do you know that a few inches closer to the earth and the sun will kill off all life in the earth. Do you know that thst interplanetary forces are perfectly poised to support gravity, that microscopic differences will alter. There is no clear proof of a God but the universe is clearly designed. It's too perfect not to be. Do you know about statistical indeterminacy that you can't simultaneously determine the position and momentum of an electron?Do you know if all the empty space in an atom collapsed, all the universe will fit into a grain of sand? Scientists can not account for that they call it dark matter. It shouldn't be possible but it is. Do you think these things are coincidences?
"If you don’t understand something, and the community of physicists don’t understand it, that means God did it? Is that how you want to play this game? Because if it is, here’s a list of things in the past that the physicists at the time didn’t understand [and now we do understand] [...]. If that’s how you want to invoke your evidence for God, then God is an ever-receding pocket of scientific ignorance that’s getting smaller and smaller and smaller as time moves on - so just be ready for that to happen, if that’s how you want to come at the problem."
~ Neil deGrasse Tyson

1 Like

Re: I Am An Atheist And A Humanist. Ask Me Anything! Let's Talk! by Nobody: 9:51pm On May 23, 2020
Monveronique:



I'm sorry but you guys are deluded and are in a cult. Mainstream Christianity do not share key concord with you guys. It's so admirable the amount of seriousness that ends up wasted.

And what makes you sure you're not making a big mistake? cheesy

Jesus said "my group will become objects of hatred by all peoples" Matthew 5:11-12, 10:22, 24:9; Luke 21:15

Jesus said "they accused me of being a Satanist, so my true followers will also be accused of being Satanists (cultists)" Matthew 10:24-25

Jesus said "those who remain in my teachings will be IDENTIFIED by the strong bond (Love) in their midst" John 13:34-35

So if you now think those who don't have any of these are the REAL Christians i doubt if you have the spirit to discern after reading! Matthew 7:16-18 smiley
Re: I Am An Atheist And A Humanist. Ask Me Anything! Let's Talk! by Joshthefirst(m): 9:52pm On May 23, 2020
Maximus69:


So if you're truthful with the bolded, then what are you doing here in the first place? cheesy

Help me ask the guy oh. grin
Re: I Am An Atheist And A Humanist. Ask Me Anything! Let's Talk! by odinson1(m): 9:54pm On May 23, 2020
Monveronique:




1. What is the definition of "jealousy?"

2. You just contradicted your self. What is the definition of supernatural?
3.


4. Actually atheism is a religion that claims not to be. The absence of evidence is not evidence of absence!

Atheism is simply absence of Belief in a diety,it is not a philosophy or religion
Re: I Am An Atheist And A Humanist. Ask Me Anything! Let's Talk! by Joshthefirst(m): 9:56pm On May 23, 2020
odinson1:


Atheism is simply absence of Belief in a diety,it is not a philosophy or religion
As an atheist, how do you make sense of a meaningless and purposeless existence?
Re: I Am An Atheist And A Humanist. Ask Me Anything! Let's Talk! by odinson1(m): 9:59pm On May 23, 2020
Joshthefirst:
As an atheist, how do you make sense of a meaningless and purposeless existence?
By trying to add meaning and purpose to my existence...i dont need any God for that
Re: I Am An Atheist And A Humanist. Ask Me Anything! Let's Talk! by Nobody: 10:00pm On May 23, 2020
Ghostrye:

Your stupidity is just appalling, if you want to have an argument or just to rub minds together with the OP, then you should do so without making yourself appear dumb. Your way of doing things makes me want to puke

True Christians don't need arguments Sir! 1Timothy 6:4; Titus 3:9

We only make presentations and give vivid examples of what we are saying {1Peter 3:15} but if you're show no interest we'll peacefully take our leave! Matthew 10:11-13
Re: I Am An Atheist And A Humanist. Ask Me Anything! Let's Talk! by Nobody: 10:02pm On May 23, 2020
Joshthefirst:
Help me ask the guy oh. grin

They will claim they want to reason but in the end they will turn around insulting you for reasoning with them!

God's word says their stupidity will become obvious as they're trying to prove wise whereas they're stupid! Job 5:13

1 Like

Re: I Am An Atheist And A Humanist. Ask Me Anything! Let's Talk! by Monveronique: 10:08pm On May 23, 2020
odinson1:


Atheism is simply absence of Belief in a diety,it is not a philosophy or religion


You put two and two together can't You? The absence of belief is belief in itself. Called the Belief in the absence of belief and btw this one example of a Trilemma.
Re: I Am An Atheist And A Humanist. Ask Me Anything! Let's Talk! by Monveronique: 10:11pm On May 23, 2020
Maximus69:


And what makes you sure you're not making a big mistake? cheesy

Jesus said "my group will become objects of hatred by all peoples" Matthew 5:11-12, 10:22, 24:9; Luke 21:15

Jesus said "they accused me of being a Satanist, so my true followers will also be accused of being Satanists (cultists)" Matthew 10:24-25

Jesus said "those who remain in my teachings will be IDENTIFIED by the strong bond (Love) in their midst" John 13:34-35

So if you now think those who don't have any of these are the REAL Christians i doubt if you have the spirit to discern after reading! Matthew 7:16-18 smiley




I don't belief a shred of all these battered and misinterpreted scripture. Why don't you guys believe in the Holy Ghost. Why does the JW bible continue to water down the bible. You may be genuine but here's me hoping you find the truth before it's too late!
Re: I Am An Atheist And A Humanist. Ask Me Anything! Let's Talk! by Monveronique: 10:14pm On May 23, 2020
odinson1:

"If you don’t understand something, and the community of physicists don’t understand it, that means God did it? Is that how you want to play this game? Because if it is, here’s a list of things in the past that the physicists at the time didn’t understand [and now we do understand] [...]. If that’s how you want to invoke your evidence for God, then God is an ever-receding pocket of scientific ignorance that’s getting smaller and smaller and smaller as time moves on - so just be ready for that to happen, if that’s how you want to come at the problem."
~ Neil deGrasse Tyson



Quite lame and uncontextual! To think you are an atheist worth the name. Have you heard of Fallacy of Appealing to authority?
You're not an atheist. You're just disgruntled and having peeves to throw around. The lack of rigour is mind churning! Ironically Neil Tyson believes in God
Re: I Am An Atheist And A Humanist. Ask Me Anything! Let's Talk! by odinson1(m): 10:16pm On May 23, 2020
Monveronique:



You put two and two together can't You? The absence of belief is belief in itself. Called the Belief in the absence of belief and btw this one example of a Trilemma.
ok then it is the Belief that God does not exist
Re: I Am An Atheist And A Humanist. Ask Me Anything! Let's Talk! by Monveronique: 10:18pm On May 23, 2020
There are no atheists in Nigeria. If you know any I will love to have a chat. I get that mainstream Christianity has failed expectations and who wouldn't lose heart but to go religion hitchhiking and then end up as an atheist without any semblance of critical thought as a result is very shallow to say the least. When the student is ready, the teacher appears!
Re: I Am An Atheist And A Humanist. Ask Me Anything! Let's Talk! by Monveronique: 10:20pm On May 23, 2020
odinson1:

ok then it is the Belief that God does not exist


Which makes it a religion. Let's assume that is a correct assessment.

Let's start from the basics. How did the world begin?
Re: I Am An Atheist And A Humanist. Ask Me Anything! Let's Talk! by whitelotus: 10:23pm On May 23, 2020
Maximus69:


Cult is not the issue now Sir! cheesy

It's how well the job your humanism concept did, and so far there is none! cheesy


Kindly explain your problem with secular humanism....
Re: I Am An Atheist And A Humanist. Ask Me Anything! Let's Talk! by odinson1(m): 10:23pm On May 23, 2020
Monveronique:



Which makes it a religion. Let's assume that is a correct assessment.

Let's start from the basics. How did the world begin?

Science proposed the Big bang theory as a probable explanation,Though there are no evidence yet to verify it

so i will no one actually knows that Answer....yet
oh and Atheism is not a religion,dont make false claims
Re: I Am An Atheist And A Humanist. Ask Me Anything! Let's Talk! by Monveronique: 10:26pm On May 23, 2020
odinson1:


Science proposed the Big bang theory as a probable explanation,Though there are no evidence yet to verify it

so i will no one actually knows that Answer....yet
oh and Atheism is not a religion,dont make false claims


You're funny. You don't even know the meaning of terms you're using. What do think is the big bang?

What is religion? I hope you can answer this.
Re: I Am An Atheist And A Humanist. Ask Me Anything! Let's Talk! by Nobody: 10:26pm On May 23, 2020
Monveronique:



[s]Do you think the universe is an accident. Do you know that a few inches closer to the earth and the sun will kill off all life in the earth. Do you know that thst interplanetary forces are perfectly poised to support gravity, that microscopic differences will alter. There is no clear proof of a God but the universe is clearly designed. It's too perfect not to be. Do you know about statistical indeterminacy that you can't simultaneously determine the position and momentum of an electron?Do you know if all the empty space in an atom collapsed, all the universe will fit into a grain of sand? Scientists can not account for that they call it dark matter. It shouldn't be possible but it is. Do you think these things are coincidences? [/s]

And these things came about because of what? God?

The irony is that assuming Europeans didn’t bring Christianity to Africa all of you would never have heard about this God that y’all are defending now.

3 Likes 3 Shares

Re: I Am An Atheist And A Humanist. Ask Me Anything! Let's Talk! by Monveronique: 10:28pm On May 23, 2020
odinson1:


Science proposed the Big bang theory as a probable explanation,Though there are no evidence yet to verify it

so i will no one actually knows that Answer....yet
oh and Atheism is not a religion,dont make false claims



Did you do logic in school?

two do you know how you came about?

three. Can you take that as far as possible and tell me what you come up with?
Re: I Am An Atheist And A Humanist. Ask Me Anything! Let's Talk! by Monveronique: 10:31pm On May 23, 2020
Plead:


And these things came about because of what? God?

The irony is that assuming Europeans didn’t bring Christianity to Africa all of you would never have heard about this God that y’all are defending now.



You tell me?


Wrong! Africa was the cradle of civilisation long before Europeans exported Christianity. Long before Christ was born, Tombs of pharaohs were built with exact specification to the constellations of night sky in order to ease their passage to the heavens. The average man has a measure of God in him and that's the conscience, his spirit that basically sustains him. My God you're shallow.

(1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) (7) (8) (9) (Reply)

Why Do People Still Die Prematurely After Praying To God Against Untimely Death / Should Restitution Be Preached? / T.b Joshua Is My Boy Says Ghanian Witch Doctor. (photo)

(Go Up)

Sections: politics (1) business autos (1) jobs (1) career education (1) romance computers phones travel sports fashion health
religion celebs tv-movies music-radio literature webmasters programming techmarket

Links: (1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) (7) (8) (9) (10)

Nairaland - Copyright © 2005 - 2024 Oluwaseun Osewa. All rights reserved. See How To Advertise. 76
Disclaimer: Every Nairaland member is solely responsible for anything that he/she posts or uploads on Nairaland.