sgtponzihater1:


Don't thank him. This thread died from the beginning. Having lunch at my break room and wondering how much peoples esteem can be so defaced, and degraded. The Medicine and Surgery you studied is similar to the Medicine Nurses, physiotherapy and other paramedics did, its is just to complete your course, and not to work in a Medicine clinic. I will keep being an advocate for truth, even though its unpopular

Lol.. Paramedics don't do "Medicine and Surgery" (Nurses do "Medical Nursing instead)

Please do well to visit a psychiatrist.

sgtponzihater1:


Don't thank him. This thread died from the beginning. Having lunch at my break room and wondering how much peoples esteem can be so defaced, and degraded. The Medicine and Surgery you studied is similar to the Medicine Nurses, physiotherapy and other paramedics did, its is just to complete your course, and not to work in a Medicine clinic. I will keep being an advocate for truth, even though its unpopular

U see how you honorably disgrace yourself again.. Nursing, physiotherapists and paramedics student are doing medicine and surgery... as a course... A piece of condom would have prevent this

Lolzzzz this guy is a disgrace to manhood.. U really need a psychiatrist. it has shown that u know nothing about medical school... Why can't you just keep quiet rather than disgracing yourself.. U are nothing but a joke master... See your life...

I know u will still come up with another lie.. Next!!!!?

Mikolion87:


Lol.. Paramedics don't do "Medicine and Surgery" (Nurses do "Medical Nursing instead)

Please do well to visit a psychiatrist.

You still have a lot of learning to do. Cheers

Whether the guy is a doctor or not is secondary to the discussion. There's no need to deviate into ad hominem attacks. His points are seemingly valid nonetheless.

Fyi0:
Whether the guy is a doctor or not is secondary to the discussion. There's no need to deviate into ad honinem attacks. His points are valid nonetheless.

His points are based on lies....he said he was a doctor so that people can buy his lies....
He has no idea what medical/dental school is all about....and he is not willing to learn from those that do....
He should stop spewing lies about what he knows nothing about....

Maid007:

His points are based on lies....he said he was a doctor so that people can buy his lies....
He has no idea what medical/dental school is all about....and he is not willing to learn from those that do....
He should stop spewing lies about what he knows nothing about....

Lol. Nairaland investigators. The way una take catch dis guy

Fyi0:
Whether the guy is a doctor or not is secondary to the discussion. There's no need to deviate into ad hominem attacks. His points are seemingly valid nonetheless.

Thanks. Someone will definitely see the truth, and hold on to it. I never expected Dentists to agree with me, but the public are more aware now.

The so-called investigation are also quite baseless. Taking a swipe at Doctors does not stop you from being one. The boys who where holding the residency matter on their heads and were shrugging shoulder with the aid of their 11th cranial nerve are all out of the country now, and have said more unprintable things about the Nigerian health system.

When people are in a hole they leave the subject, and cling on to baseless things like the OP and his cronies, who have helped to derail the thread badly

sgtponzihater1:


Thanks. Someone will definitely see the truth, and hold on to it. I never expected Dentists to agree with me, but the public are more aware now.

The so-called investigation are also quite baseless. Taking a swipe at Doctors does not stop you from being one. The boys who where holding the residency matter on their heads and were shrugging shoulder with the aid of their 11th cranial nerve are all out of the country now, and have said more unprintable things about the Nigerian health system.

When people are in a hole they leave the subject, and cling on to baseless things like the OP and his cronies, who have helped to derail the thread badly

The point is that you lie too much....if u could lie just to prove a point, it shows that u are only a hater, not a person that is willing to learn....so, there is no point in trying to educate u anymore....
And ur hate for "doctors" goes well to show that u are just trying to cause division between this two great professionals who are doctors....
I gave up on u When I saw how much a lot of professional doctors (medical/dental) tried to educate u (on many other threads) and u were still adamant....

Maid007:

The point is that you lie too much....if u could lie just to prove a point, it shows that u are only a hater, not a person that is willing to learn....so, there is no point in trying to educate u anymore....
And ur hate for "doctors" goes well to show that u are just trying to cause division between this two great professionals who are doctors....
I gave up on u When I saw how much a lot of professional doctors (medical/dental) tried to educate u (on many other threads) and u were still adamant....

I should educate you and many other Medical students and not the other way round. I love everyone and every profession, but can't withstand lies spewed to look larger than life

I will do a thread to educate 21st century prospective MBBS Doctors if I have the time. I would make no mention of Dentistry because I am not fully aware of what goes on in their faculty after veering off from 5th year. And my thread won't connote that Medicine is better than any other course , but the opportunities that lie ahead.

Grabs more popcorn.

MedicBlaze:
Grabs more popcorn.

Lol! Arent you going to add your own grammar to the "insult soup"

MedicBlaze:
Grabs more popcorn.

Grabbing popcorn is a good way of saying; "Ponzi hater ain't actually lying". Good option too

sgtponzihater1:


Grabbing popcorn is a good way of saying; "Ponzi hater ain't actually lying". Good option too

Lol....It's a way of saying he is enjoying how u are embarrassing ur self....I am enjoying it too, it's entertaining... Lol....

sgtponzihater1:


Grabbing popcorn is a good way of saying; "Ponzi hater ain't actually lying". Good option too

He's amused at the vituperative audacity of an incorrigible liar whose head should remain under the tent of shame.

horpeyemmi66:

He's amused at the vituperative audacity of an incorrigible liar whose head should remain under the tent of shame.

Nairaland is a place where everyone can raise their shoulder and speak what they deem appropriate. In the real world bills pile up to pay and the value of the Doctors in Nigeria, let alone the Dentists dwane badly. There in lies the mistake of most Nigerian trained doctors, inability to smell the fish.

The world is moving fast at the speed of thought, and people are making giant stride without making vain and inaccurate boasts about fictitious topics they think they studied. After 3years of having a degree, I was ready to hold myself by the bootstrap and hold my future in my hands. I ignore all the plenty academic jargon and look at the coming decade with expectancy and hope in what importunity and faith can do for me and all those who are progressive.

Cheers

sgtponzihater1:


All your talk doesn't change the fact that you are in the Dental register and not the Medical register. It also doesn't mean that your license doesn't state medical Practitioner and you are trying to force on people what they will never agree to. NHS is the largest employer of Medical Labour and have said Dentist by their training are Doctors must not deceive the public that they are Medical Doctors.

Dentistry is an amiable field with its different specialties, with OMS bring them closer to Medicine. And Medicine is a different course entirely with its different specialties. This is the information the public need, and this will foster patient safety. ENT, Ophthalmology etc that you mentioned are all specialties under medicine and Surgery. Specificalists have left Nigeria to different countries, and because of the rigors of going into their index specialty decide to take Medical licensing exams and enter into less competitive specialties, because their primary qualification permits them to do so.

If a Medical Doctor decides to do paediatric Dentistry, he has to return to get a primary qualification in Dentistry, and with all the so called "Medicine and Surgery" you are emphasizing, if a Dentist decides he wants to be a Cardiologist, He has to return back to Medical school to get MBBS as his primary qualification. This shows that the Medicine or Surgery you did is not enough to move you up the specialty ladder. You ignore OnG and Paediatrics altogether which is another gruelling 16-18months of didactic medical Education mixed with bedside tutelage so as to push ur highly distorted, skewed and untaught propaganda.

When you go outside. UK for example, you can't even write Plab which qualifies you to be in their Medical register, except you go back to MBBS. You instead write a different exams, called ORE (I can educate you for free on this), and are regulated by a different body, GDC, and placed on a Dental register. The same body have warned Dental Doctors that they shouldn't deceive the public that they are Medical Doctors, but this is exactly what this thread seems to push, lies.

I have added links to most of my other write ups, so the simple and uninformed don't fall into the banana pill that you have set ahead of them.

I clearly stated that many Dentist, more than 80% who took pre degree with us wanted to study Medicine and Surgery, and got thrown into Dentistry, and they then try to validate their being in Dentistry and give their self a very false and distorted idea that they are studying an upgraded Medicine and Surgeries and are specialists. Another 10% are afraid of the rigors of getting into Medicine, and thus rather pick a less demanding course, they behave like the former, I arguably think you stand in this category. The remaining, chose it out of free and Enjoy the Course, accept it as a different, closely related but Unique field from Medicine and Surgery.

I have life mentors who are great Dentists and have crafted me into becoming, and I wonder if they'll ever pass their humility, work ethic, dedication to their profession to a younger degeneration still battling with professional identity.


Addendum: The distinction in Medicine must be clearly stated that it's a Distinction in Medicine among their Dental Counterparts. When BGS in Medicine is given, its given to MBBS. Then Dentistry induction starts afterwards. At the End of the Induction two people give a speech. The best in Medicine and surgery (Medical Doctor), and the best in Dentistry (Dentist/Dental Surgeon). There is no overall best in Medicine and Dentistry, because they are two different courses. I say this to educate the young generation who may be hoodwinked to believing that Medicine and Dentistry are comparable alternatives, they are not. If you want to attend to addison's disease, graves disease, MIs, arrhythmias, syncope, etc go for MBBS, and if you are obsessed about Dentitions, and pulling off bad tooths, and relieving people of tooth pain, or taking care of clefts and oral abnormalities, go for Dentistry, but don't let a low esteemed, confused bunch deceive you into going the wrong path.

Peace

I have been following you since when I wasn’t a Med, you a big fool who knows if you even got admitted

sgtponzihater1:
I will do a thread to educate 21st century prospective MBBS Doctors if I have the time. I would make no mention of Dentistry because I am not fully aware of what goes on in their faculty after veering off from 5th year. And my thread won't connote that Medicine is better than any other course , but the opportunities that lie ahead.

Bro, you shud do dis please.

Which state university is good for Medicine abeg, university(s)

stanvesco:



Bro, you shud do dis please.

No problem, I will try when I am bit free. Quite busy atm

sgtponzihater1:


No problem, I will try when I am bit free. Quite busy atm

I understand Chief.
I am threading your pathway sir and hopefully I would bore you with my little wahalas in the coming months.
All the best in your endeavours sir.

stanvesco:


I understand Chief.
I am threading your pathway sir and hopefully I would bore you with my little wahalas in the coming months.
All the best in your endeavours sir.

No problem. We keep asking for directions till we get to the finish line. This give us less scars on our way to becoming

dunsin125:
Which state university is good for Medicine abeg, university(s)

As long as the University is fully accredited by MDCN, and NUC, you are good to choose any. NDUBayelsa, LASUTH, OSUTH, LaUTECh, all have good graduates with the first 2 being very good ATM, but school doesn't matter as long as u have full accreditation. The licence is the major thing.

sgtponzihater1:


All your talk doesn't change the fact that you are in the Dental register and not the Medical register. It also doesn't mean that your license doesn't state medical Practitioner and you are trying to force on people what they will never agree to. NHS is the largest employer of Medical Labour and have said Dentist by their training are Doctors must not deceive the public that they are Medical Doctors.

Dentistry is an amiable field with its different specialties, with OMS bring them closer to Medicine. And Medicine is a different course entirely with its different specialties. This is the information the public need, and this will foster patient safety. ENT, Ophthalmology etc that you mentioned are all specialties under medicine and Surgery. Specificalists have left Nigeria to different countries, and because of the rigors of going into their index specialty decide to take Medical licensing exams and enter into less competitive specialties, because their primary qualification permits them to do so.

If a Medical Doctor decides to do paediatric Dentistry, he has to return to get a primary qualification in Dentistry, and with all the so called "Medicine and Surgery" you are emphasizing, if a Dentist decides he wants to be a Cardiologist, He has to return back to Medical school to get MBBS as his primary qualification. This shows that the Medicine or Surgery you did is not enough to move you up the specialty ladder. You ignore OnG and Paediatrics altogether which is another gruelling 16-18months of didactic medical Education mixed with bedside tutelage so as to push ur highly distorted, skewed and untaught propaganda.

When you go outside. UK for example, you can't even write Plab which qualifies you to be in their Medical register, except you go back to MBBS. You instead write a different exams, called ORE (I can educate you for free on this), and are regulated by a different body, GDC, and placed on a Dental register. The same body have warned Dental Doctors that they shouldn't deceive the public that they are Medical Doctors, but this is exactly what this thread seems to push, lies.

I have added links to most of my other write ups, so the simple and uninformed don't fall into the banana pill that you have set ahead of them.

I clearly stated that many Dentist, more than 80% who took pre degree with us wanted to study Medicine and Surgery, and got thrown into Dentistry, and they then try to validate their being in Dentistry and give their self a very false and distorted idea that they are studying an upgraded Medicine and Surgeries and are specialists. Another 10% are afraid of the rigors of getting into Medicine, and thus rather pick a less demanding course, they behave like the former, I arguably think you stand in this category. The remaining, chose it out of free and Enjoy the Course, accept it as a different, closely related but Unique field from Medicine and Surgery.

I have life mentors who are great Dentists and have crafted me into becoming, and I wonder if they'll ever pass their humility, work ethic, dedication to their profession to a younger degeneration still battling with professional identity.


Addendum: The distinction in Medicine must be clearly stated that it's a Distinction in Medicine among their Dental Counterparts. When BGS in Medicine is given, its given to MBBS. Then Dentistry induction starts afterwards. At the End of the Induction two people give a speech. The best in Medicine and surgery (Medical Doctor), and the best in Dentistry (Dentist/Dental Surgeon). There is no overall best in Medicine and Dentistry, because they are two different courses. I say this to educate the young generation who may be hoodwinked to believing that Medicine and Dentistry are comparable alternatives, they are not. If you want to attend to addison's disease, graves disease, MIs, arrhythmias, syncope, etc go for MBBS, and if you are obsessed about Dentitions, and pulling off bad tooths, and relieving people of tooth pain, or taking care of clefts and oral abnormalities, go for Dentistry, but don't let a low esteemed, confused bunch deceive you into going the wrong path.

Peace

The point of all these epistles is just to prove one point, Medicine is different and distinct from Dentistry lol. Funny thing is, no one on this thread is claiming they are alternatives. You just kept whirling around in circles to prove a moot point

Mikolion87:


Lol.. you don't have to show everyone you lack manners. Obviously you're the one embarrassing yourself. I won't reduce myself to trading words with you.

Everything I wrote about the study of Dentistry is the way it is, especially in the institution I attended. There may be a slight variation in other institutions. You're probably too proud to accept it. But I understand.

If you're ready to speak in a civilized manner, I would be willing to clear your doubts. Ask your questions or go research for yourself. Daalu

you having to quote me more than a month after I made the post showed the amount of insecurity you must be suffering from... unfortunately for you, I am in a med school where medical and dental students run classes till part 4...should I need to know more about dentistry??, I'd ask my my roommate who happened to be the president of dental students association in my school - not from an imposter and irresponsible fella like you. Idiot

angiography:



you having to quote me more than a month after I made the post showed the amount of insecurity you must be suffering from... unfortunately for you, I am in a med school where medical and dental students run classes till part 4...should I need to know more about dentistry??, I'd ask my my roommate who happened to be the president of dental students association in my school - not from an imposter and irresponsible fella like you. Idiot

Lol.. and you didn't even check the date I responded to that. You have no respect for your senior colleagues I see. It's well. Compliments of the season

I don't know how the argument got to this but maybe I should just say how things are done in College of Medicine, University of Ibadan.
In 100l medical and dental student do science courses, when the pass their exam at the end of the academic year they move to preclinical school and if they don't pass they either withdraw or cross to another department.
In Preclinical school which runs for about 18months, they both do Anatomy, Physiology, Biochemistry and medical statistics. But in addition to these, dental students do dental anatomy. At the end of the 18months, they write their first professional examination MBBS Part1 for the medical students and BDS part 1 for the dental students. The BDS Part1 includes dental anatomy. When they pass the exam they move to clinical school, if they fail a course they resit the course, if they fail 2 or more courses they join the next class, if they fail the resit they join the next class.
In clinical school, they both do Pathology, Pharmacology, Medicine1, Medicine2, Surgery1, Surgery2(all surgery units), Pediatrics1(all pediatric units but on the wards no clinic work), Radiology and Radiotherapy, Special posting 1(ENT, Opthamology, Anaesthesia, Dentistry). Then they both write their respective professional exams MBBS part 2 for Medical students and BDS part 2 for Dental students. Note that this second professional exam contains only Pathology and Pharmacology. This exam is usually taken at the end of 400l. So moving into 500l, Medical and dental students more or less part ways.
At the beginning of 500l, dental students start preparing for BDS part 3 which includes Medicine, Surgery, Pediatrics, radiology and radiotherapy, Special Posting. They go for revision postings in Medicine and surgery then sit for the BDS part 3 exams. After this, dental students go on to Dental school and write 3 more professional exams, ending with BDS part 6. On the other hand their MBBS counterparts go on to O&G, Psychiatry, Medicine 3, Surgery 3, Pediatrics 2 (clinic work), community medicine, Special postings 2 and write 2 more professional exams MBBS part 3 (Pediatrics/ O&G) then Part 4 (medicine and surgery).
Usually in University of Ibadan, Dental curriculum ends 2 weeks after the MBBS curriculum ends. They are inducted the same day and are both regarded as doctors. If a dentist wants to go back and get the MBBS, he'd have to take an 18 months course at the end of which he'd lose his BDS degree. If a Medical doctor wants to get the BDS degree, he'd have to take a 3 years course at the end of which he'd lose his MBBS degree. In other words, in Nigeria, it's not possible to have both degrees. Also worthy of note is the fact that in UI, especially from 500l it is more expensive to study dentistry.
On a final note, MBBS and BDS isn't the same thing. Their holders can both head a medical institution as CMD in Nigeria. They both belong to the MDCN.
BDS isn't so popular because of the limited number of schools that run the course and the limited quota given to these school.
Another misconception is that dentists deal with teeth only, dentists deal with the oral health, a greater part of their work just involve the teeth.
Dentistry is more lucrative in developed countries, though practicing in Nigeria will guarantee you comfortable life.

We don't have to try to pull down a course to make another one seem more important. All health care professionals are unique in their own way and contribute to the physical, mental and social well-being of their patients.

I hope this helps someone somewhere someday.

angiography:



I am just laughing here at how much he's trying to prove a point he shouldn't have pointed out ab initio.

In my school here, dentistry students rotates medicine and surgery in part 4 with medicine students ...together with path and pharm.

Afterwards, they have nothing in common anymore, medicine students go on to O&G, paediatrics, psychiatry, dermatology, orthopaedics, radiology, in part 5, then medicine, surgery and community health in part 6.

Meanwhile dental students don't rotate with them in these.. Yet he said "dental students don't just do few medicine courses"�

Doctor is just a general name for everyone that specializes in any area under medicine which dentistry is also part

BDS graduates are dental surgeons or dentist

MBBS - Physician (Primary Care Physician)

Consultants are the real people worthy to be called a doctor

those with MD in USA which is equivalent to MBBS are called PCP - Primary Care Physicians or General Practitioners

DDS in USA which is equivalent to BDS are called Dentists or General Dentists

Jude is an Orthodontist
James is an Oral and Maxillofacial Surgeon
Hellen is a dermatologist
Mike is a Nephrologist
Stephen is a Cardiologist

Jude, James, Hellen, Mike and Stephen are all Doctors


Also in a situation where
Physicians are called Doctors
Dentists are also Doctors

The world "Dentist" is just like a identity of area of specialization

You can't say I'm a medicine and Surgery...

Jamie1111:
Doctor is just a general name for everyone that specializes in any area under medicine which dentistry is also part

BDS graduates are dental surgeons or dentist

MBBS - Physician (Primary Care Physician)

Consultants are the real people worthy to be called a doctor

those with MD in USA which

You can't say I'm a medicine and Surgery...

James?

TeflonBlixx:

James?

Yeah

Jamie1111:
Yeah

I don know.
Keep defending dentistry with passion brutha

TeflonBlixx:

I don know.
Keep defending dentistry with passion brutha

smiles
m justshedding light on area of confusion