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Re: Did Jesus Knew He'll Be Resurrected Right From Heaven Before He Came To Earth? by Righteousness89(m): 5:59pm On May 31, 2020 |
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Re: Did Jesus Knew He'll Be Resurrected Right From Heaven Before He Came To Earth? by jcross19: 6:02pm On May 31, 2020 |
Righteousness89:you have shown how shallow your knowledge is. |
Re: Did Jesus Knew He'll Be Resurrected Right From Heaven Before He Came To Earth? by Offpoint: 6:05pm On May 31, 2020 |
PRE4:If someone ask a question in the Muslim thread, Muslim folks will dedicate their time and answer the questions. It's always different from my Christians folks. You guys always dodge questions with that line. I'm not in support of whatever those atheist guys turn up the thread, I was more interested in fellow Christians answering the questions... But it's clear they're all avoiding the question or not too acknowledged enough to make attempt. If you guys keep acting this way, that is one of the reasons atheist think God is a tyrant... Which isn't God nature. 3 Likes |
Re: Did Jesus Knew He'll Be Resurrected Right From Heaven Before He Came To Earth? by Jokerman(m): 6:07pm On May 31, 2020 |
sonmvayina: Depends on choice |
Re: Did Jesus Knew He'll Be Resurrected Right From Heaven Before He Came To Earth? by Jokerman(m): 6:09pm On May 31, 2020 |
kingxsamz: Where do you see Devil punishing people... They rather mock the blind human beings who believes him when they were on earth... Devil, himself will be tortured at the last day... No rest day and night for them |
Re: Did Jesus Knew He'll Be Resurrected Right From Heaven Before He Came To Earth? by Righteousness89(m): 6:18pm On May 31, 2020 |
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Re: Did Jesus Knew He'll Be Resurrected Right From Heaven Before He Came To Earth? by kingxsamz(m): 6:26pm On May 31, 2020 |
Jokerman: Okay. Quick question. How will sinners be tortured in hell? Who or what is going to torture them? |
Re: Did Jesus Knew He'll Be Resurrected Right From Heaven Before He Came To Earth? by Jokerman(m): 6:28pm On May 31, 2020 |
kingxsamz: I don't know. I have never been there and won't be there in the mighty name of Jesus. However from the Lord's mouth... "The fire and the worms that dieth not"... |
Re: Did Jesus Knew He'll Be Resurrected Right From Heaven Before He Came To Earth? by kingxsamz(m): 6:29pm On May 31, 2020 |
jcross19: Unless none of them never existed because these stories were written by men like you, and y'all are stressing over nothing. 3 Likes |
Re: Did Jesus Knew He'll Be Resurrected Right From Heaven Before He Came To Earth? by kingxsamz(m): 6:32pm On May 31, 2020 |
Jokerman: Oh, so now you don't know, but you know that hell is there and it burns forever? Funny guy. 3 Likes |
Re: Did Jesus Knew He'll Be Resurrected Right From Heaven Before He Came To Earth? by Jokerman(m): 6:35pm On May 31, 2020 |
sonmvayina: God's word does not change. He has said the wicked will be judged. To avoid this judgment, humans have to come to Jesus...this because "all have sinned and fallen short".... |
Re: Did Jesus Knew He'll Be Resurrected Right From Heaven Before He Came To Earth? by thankgod460(m): 6:35pm On May 31, 2020 |
kingxsamz:Have you as well wonder how God created paradise and send those that do his will there? Genesis 1 Vs 4b says and God divided the light from darkness ". Did you know what it means? These are the two forces ruling the world, mind you hell was created for Satan and his cohort but everyone that followed devil's will become his agent and end in hell. The son of God came into world not to save people from hell but from Satan deceit that can lead people of this world into hell. |
Re: Did Jesus Knew He'll Be Resurrected Right From Heaven Before He Came To Earth? by Jokerman(m): 6:37pm On May 31, 2020 |
kingxsamz: Jesus said so, and I believe the word of the Lord Jesus Christ |
Re: Did Jesus Knew He'll Be Resurrected Right From Heaven Before He Came To Earth? by kingxsamz(m): 6:39pm On May 31, 2020 |
Jokerman: Jesus didn't tell you who or what will punish sinners in hell? 1 Like |
Re: Did Jesus Knew He'll Be Resurrected Right From Heaven Before He Came To Earth? by Nobody: 6:45pm On May 31, 2020 |
Offpoint: If you expect Christians to keep arguing then we are not Christ like.Christ never argued with Those people who felt they were over learned or wise.He just said few words encapsulated with the mysterious truth and left them to their unbelief. In the multitude of words,sin comes in.Christians are people of few words because we are trying our best to avoid sin,like CHRIST did in his time. |
Re: Did Jesus Knew He'll Be Resurrected Right From Heaven Before He Came To Earth? by Jokerman(m): 6:52pm On May 31, 2020 |
kingxsamz: My last reply to you. Coz you yourself would acknowledge I have followed you to the latter Now if you burn an ant in fire, do you need anyone to punish the ant? The lake of fire is an everlasting punishment for wicked people... It burns with sulphur, it isn't quenched and there are worms that do not die in that fire... Revelation 22 Safe bro... Come to Jesus |
Re: Did Jesus Knew He'll Be Resurrected Right From Heaven Before He Came To Earth? by thankgod460(m): 7:23pm On May 31, 2020 |
CAPSLOCKED:hell was created for Satan and his cohort but everyone that followed devil's will become his agent and end in hell. The son of God came into world not to save people from hell but from Satan deceit that can lead people of this world into hell. |
Re: Did Jesus Knew He'll Be Resurrected Right From Heaven Before He Came To Earth? by sonmvayina(m): 7:56pm On May 31, 2020 |
Jokerman: It is somebody that said he said it... The person was not even there.. And you put your whole life on that bet.. E go cut oh.. |
Re: Did Jesus Knew He'll Be Resurrected Right From Heaven Before He Came To Earth? by Nobody: 7:58pm On May 31, 2020 |
The Plan was to pull a fast one on Lucifer in the legal context and rescue Jesus at the last minute, what Jesus was unaware of the God was setting him up for real 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Did Jesus Knew He'll Be Resurrected Right From Heaven Before He Came To Earth? by Nobody: 8:04pm On May 31, 2020 |
kingxsamz:.The purpose of Christ's sacrifice is to save mankind. Your question was not the purpose. Your question was how was it a sacrifice if He was assured of resurrecting to a better life. |
Re: Did Jesus Knew He'll Be Resurrected Right From Heaven Before He Came To Earth? by StubbornGENIUS: 8:07pm On May 31, 2020 |
LaEvilIMiss:God set Jesus up?abeg knack me the full gist |
Re: Did Jesus Knew He'll Be Resurrected Right From Heaven Before He Came To Earth? by Daejoyoung: 8:18pm On May 31, 2020 |
Offpoint:Of course it is still a sacrifice, why not? |
Re: Did Jesus Knew He'll Be Resurrected Right From Heaven Before He Came To Earth? by Daejoyoung: 8:22pm On May 31, 2020 |
kingxsamz:In order to identify with, and to save other would be sons suffering in the ghetto. |
Re: Did Jesus Knew He'll Be Resurrected Right From Heaven Before He Came To Earth? by Nobody: 8:55pm On May 31, 2020 |
StubbornGENIUS: See as e take start Chapter 1: YAHWEH aka Jehovah (YEHOVAH) na one sharp guy for school, eem and iim friends/partners arrange say dem wan go find one uninhabited planet wey dem go organize precious minerals and ore to sell. na so dem take reach this our local obodo oooh. CHAPTER 2: Elohim (Plural for God - meaning say dem pass one person) Gen. 1:26/Pslam 86:8/Pslam 12:12/Pslam 86:8/Deuteronomy 4:19 come arrange say "Let us create Man in our Image" so dem fit dey dig for dis our precious minerals market we we wan use blow - Na so dem come bring de machine wey make dem immortal (Tree of Life) and wey give dem over-sense (Tree of Knowledge) - mean-wili we go gist dat mata later CHAPTER 3: E get one Ariara Nigga wey Dem put in charge of protocol, just like officer wey dey carry mace for senate (Lucifer) na so bros look one day say - I sabi as dis guys dey operate naa - me sef i fit organize like Oshiomole, enter position of Elohim (Gods) take over dis new business wey Aba boys don organize. Na so e start to organize plan with oda sure-men for obodo heaven. until dem come catch them, bundle dem comot for heaven. CHAPTER 4: Matter still dey ground ooh, after dem don scatta bros luficer plan drive am enter ajegunle, dem forget say if largesse no reach everybody and na only Elohim (Gods) dey enjoy am, Luficer message still dey scratch some people especially the SONS of God wey Elohim (gods) arrange to be MAI-gaurd for Earth.. na so one of dem the Seraphim Samael (Venom of God) and Serpent in Eden (https://adventistbiblicalresearch.org/materials/bible-interpretation-hermeneutics/serpents-and-seraphim) come arrange with Lucifer say dem must scatta dis monopoly and use Elohim (gods) Slaves for Mining precious minerals collect di business for dem hand. as e be, Adam and Eve come chop de apple we come open dia skull come make dem know say na so matter be.. omooh na so Elohim (gods) consider de matter sey business don rotten make dem find anoda market sharperly. but YAHWEH no come gree for de mata. CHAPTER 5: As e come be, YAHWEH and YESHUA na proper Arondizogu boys and dem no fit leave food spoil make dem no sell am. na so dem change de matta. Say oya wetin go come happen now wey una don get sense.. una no fit live long. Elohim (gods) comot the tree of life waka. so YAHWEH and YESHUA come arrange one kain scam say Tree of life still dey for one Holy Spirit wey nobody fit see unless dem give dia life to YESHUA. because as man don come stubborn come understand how to manipulate eem destiny, SONS of God (Samael friends) come start to kpake olosho Genesis 6:1-8, NIV come even make business hard for YAHWEH as human beans start to born-born like bush rat come dey use sense wey dem collect from Tree of Wisdom. CHAPTER 6: YAHWEH come reason de mata with YESHUA say hmmmmm oga-boss na to scatta dey whole business start from scrathc be dat ooh. remember ENOCH naa, dat ELohim(gods) houseboy wey still get pikin Noah wey be hafin (Albino) - the guy pure and e get sense and eem blood never rotten like all dem Adam pikin dem wey Nephilim don scatta dia life finish. YESHUA sef reason am. hmmm CHAPTER 7: Small problem - even with all de mouth wey YAHWEH dey spit - e no fit kill Lucifer and Samael because na Elohim (gods) hold dia contract. by dis time hefery bodi don know say na free market with human being-- na who fit scam pass na im go collect human soul - ngwuam! lets go dia. Na so all dey format start between YESHUA and Lucifer - Lucifer and Samael enter the children of Israel for Egypt use Joseph, use Moses take scam the Hebrew children.. no be when YAHWEH come get sense - e start to form say Lucifer god of this world” (2 Cor. 4:4) time go come and pepool wey follow am go die for hell faya - MAFO! na so YAHWEH and LUficer enta market start for format human-beans but e be like say to win di mata proper - extra risky pattern must enter de formula.. na so YESHUA come reason di matta of Blood Sacrifice , Oga-boss! make i die for dis people so dat we go use the scam collect dia souls make e be say e no loss. YAHWEH na guy-man wey sabi local sometinz and e reason am say for dis scam to work well.. YESHUA must die betta die.. na dia e no come give am de full script. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Did Jesus Knew He'll Be Resurrected Right From Heaven Before He Came To Earth? by StubbornGENIUS: 9:20pm On May 31, 2020 |
Laevillmiss, na 5 times wey me read that tori b4 i come grab and reason am well. Yahweh na im be the real guy man oo.But wait oo,as Yeshua don kpeme for real,wetin Elohim go come use the tree of life do? And yeye people like us no fit believe say holy spirit na scam.CHAI! Las las I don lost finally I get small kweshun:who come be the olosho wey dem de knack that time? 1 Like |
Re: Did Jesus Knew He'll Be Resurrected Right From Heaven Before He Came To Earth? by kingxsamz(m): 9:31pm On May 31, 2020 |
Daejoyoung: You can't use that example to butress your point, if not It'd mean that Dangote would have to punish those who refuse to be helped by his son. |
Re: Did Jesus Knew He'll Be Resurrected Right From Heaven Before He Came To Earth? by kingxsamz(m): 9:35pm On May 31, 2020 |
HedwigesMaduro: You're using Dangote and his son to explain your point, now I'm asking you. According to you, Dangote sent his son to make a sacrifice by giving up his luxury lifestyle and living in the ghetto and end up getting imprisoned. Now my question is, what's the purpose of Dangote telling his son to do such thing? What is he making that Sacrifice for? If you can't answer that, then you can't use that example to butress your point. |
Re: Did Jesus Knew He'll Be Resurrected Right From Heaven Before He Came To Earth? by Daejoyoung: 10:07pm On May 31, 2020 |
kingxsamz:But the dangote I'm talking about is not going to punish anyone but rather wants to save the people from the danger they are headed to. And no he didn't create the danger, and it is not a so called everlasting fire. |
Re: Did Jesus Knew He'll Be Resurrected Right From Heaven Before He Came To Earth? by kingxsamz(m): 10:27pm On May 31, 2020 |
Daejoyoung: Are you saying that the Christian belief about hell fire is a lie? |
Re: Did Jesus Knew He'll Be Resurrected Right From Heaven Before He Came To Earth? by Daejoyoung: 10:35pm On May 31, 2020 |
kingxsamz:I read hell fire in the bible as utter destruction, it is simply death without the hope of resurrection, and because of this, the body is burnt and not given an elaborate burial as expected in the jewish customs. The fire used to burn the body is compared to that of ghenna( a refuse dump in Jerusalem where the fire is always burning and worms are always there). |
Re: Did Jesus Knew He'll Be Resurrected Right From Heaven Before He Came To Earth? by MuttleyLaff: 12:21am On Jun 01, 2020 |
Offpoint:"No one can take my life from me. I sacrifice it voluntarily. For I have the authority to lay it down when I want to and also to take it up again. For this is what my Father has commanded.”" - John 10:18 "19Jesus answered, “Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up again.” 20“This temple took forty-six years to build,” the Jews replied, “and You are going to raise it up in three days?” 21But Jesus was speaking about the temple of His body. 22After He was raised from the dead, His disciples remembered that He had said this. Then they believed the Scripture and the word that Jesus had spoken." - John 2:19-22 Offpoint , His death truly in some many ways, is a sacrifice. One of the ways and reasons why it is a sacrifice is that God in spite of His sovereignty came down to earth, became a human being, mingled with human beings et cetera, simply just to achieve a do-it-yourself (i.e. DIY) necessary with a personal touch ring to it and that is evident because He could have done the necessary with a fiat, but He didnt |
Re: Did Jesus Knew He'll Be Resurrected Right From Heaven Before He Came To Earth? by MuttleyLaff: 12:21am On Jun 01, 2020 |
HedwigesMaduro: kingxsamz:Thank you ojaare for asking for this specific question, lmao Daejoyoung: kingxsamz: Daejoyoung:There is no escaping something or someone ending up in the kitchen dustbin and finally on the city's refuse dump site nah kingxsamz:Gbam! Daejoyoung:I remember when little, there used to be a refuse site, not far from where we lived. People used to go tip their rubbish et cetera on this refuse dump site to get rid of. I recall now as if was yesterday, that the refuse site always had burning going on. You can see the almost ever present smoke coming out from the smouldering refuse dumping site. Of course, various rubbished already had been incinerated by the dump site fire, but the smouldering was almost never ending. Hell fire is not a Jewish concept, it has a lot to do with Greek mythology. Gehenna, the city's incineration site, is something the Israelites/Jews could identify with or relate to, that is why Jesus used it, as an illustration to describe a place where badness is going to end up at and what is going to happen to such ending up there. The Bible upped the ante, when it revealed that hell/Gehenna and even death will themselves each and all end up in the lake of fire. |
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