Maximus69:
So what says this so called APOCRYPHA?

To pick and choose. Take only the bits you want and pieces that suit your agenda

MuttleyLaff:




"¹⁶There are six things which the LORD hates,
Yes, seven which are an abomination to Him:
¹⁷Haughty eyes, a lying tongue,
And hands that shed innocent blood,
¹⁸A heart that devises wicked plans,
Feet that run rapidly to evil,
¹⁹A false witness who utters lies,
And one who spreads strife among brothers."
- Proverbs 6:16-19

List of what is an abomination to God, right there in Proverbs 6:16-19

Rape falls under the bolden - verse 18. What’s wrong with you today, sef?

Acehart:


I said personal judgment. That’s the reason you are hurt.

All sin is an abomination: wrath, deceit, homosexuality, stealing, rape, forgery, racism, kidnapping etc are all abomination.. Every man will be judged - this should be your consolation.

Remind her that if she had had sex with a man she's not married to before she got married, by now she should be six feet below because the laws asked us to stone her to death!

MuttleyLaff:




The presence of mitigating circumstantial evidence(s) can reduce the punishment imposed for the offense, if it doesnt exonerate an individual

"¹⁶There are six things which the LORD hates,
Yes, seven which are an abomination to Him:
¹⁷Haughty eyes, a lying tongue,
And hands that shed innocent blood,
¹⁸A heart that devises wicked plans,
Feet that run rapidly to evil,
¹⁹A false witness who utters lies,
And one who spreads strife among brothers."
- Proverbs 6:16-19

List of what is an abomination to God, right there in Proverbs 6:16-19

I believe I said an abomination to a woman.

MuttleyLaff:
"How can I curse someone God has not cursed?
How can I denounce someone the LORD has not denounced?"
- Numbers 23:8

You are behaving as if you've never farted and so don't fart, lmao.
Oh I see you do fart, but your fart is deodorised, isn't it?
You no holy pass my sister

MuttleyLaff:
"⁴ as they were preparing to retire for the night, the men of the city
—yes, Sodomites, young and old from all over the city—surrounded the house
⁵ and shouted to Lot, “Bring out those men to us so we can rape them.”
⁶ Lot stepped outside to talk to them, shutting the door behind him"
- Genesis 19:4-6 Living Bible (TLB)

Rape, at whatever level, whatever disguise, whatever sex/gender, the wanton act of destruction of a place, a continent and/or the spoiling of a fellow human being can never be right.

Sin, (i.e. missing the mark) is sin, no sin is greater than another sin, so I wouldn't hurriedly dash to go play the "holy pass" card

If anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation. The old things have passed away; behold, the new has come into being (i.e. 2 Corinthians 5:17, Isaiah 42:9 and Revelation 21:5)

MuttleyLaff:
You're a strong man now, in spite of your youthful period of weakness. You have moved on to become a better man.[ b]I respect that among other things, of course and that doesnt mean I condone rape of whatever shape, form or times it presented itself[/b]

You can't unscramble an egg, a broken egg can't unite back into a whole egg. May God continue to guide and help us all

Acehart:
Rape falls under the bolden - verse 18. What’s wrong with you today, sef?

Nothing is wrong with you today see sire, only that you haven't been following the thread's train of posts properly and reading the holier than thou, him/her without sin cast the first stone hypocrite stance

Maximus69:


Remind her that if she had had sex with a man she's not married to before she got married, by now she should be six feet below because the laws asked us to stone her to death!

That would be something I did to myself not to another human being.

khia:
I believe I said an abomination to a woman.

I believe an abomination to God takes precedence to thats an abomination to a woman, to you or even to me.

What's an abomination to a woman, to you or even to me, doesnt count in face of whats an abomination to God. You surely are at least guilty of one, if not more, from that list of the seven, that are whats an abomination to God

MuttleyLaff:
I believe an abomination to God takes precedence to thats to a woman, to you or even to me. What's an abomination to a woman, to you or even to me doesnt count in face of whats an abomination to God. You surely are at least guilty of one from that list of the seven, that are whats an abomination to God

Men are raped as well, is that an abomination to a man's body?

khia:
Men are raped as well, is that an abomination to a man's body?

I am interested in whats an abomination to God, period, besides, I had earlier advanced you Genesis 19:4-6, so what's the big deal

I am not going to be distracted with whats an abomination to a man's body. Abomination to man's body is a relative thing

It is an abomination to hear an AA, kick at her ancestral home saying she isn't African, that she is not an African woman, but she is Negro. Isnt that signs of a victim of confusion, ignorance, messed up mind and/or brainwashing? lmao.

Imagine that, a black skinned woman, originally from the motherland, calling herself a black Israelite and appropriating this same black skin upon Abraham, Jacob/Israel, king David, king Solomon, Jesus Christ and true born real McCoy Israelites. Smh.

advocatejare:


Narrated Ibn `Umar:
The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "Do not swear by your fathers; and whoever wants to swear should swear by Allah." Sahih Bukhari 4:93:494


Also, your Prophet said you should only swear when you're sincere, so if you're sincere, obey Allah and swear.


It was narrated that Abu Hurairah said:
"The Messenger of Allah said: 'Do not swear by your fathers, nor by your mothers nor by the idols. Swear only by Allah, and do not swear unless you are sincere.'"
-Sunan an-Nasa'i 3769

Where did Jesus tell you to force people swear?

advocatejare:
Are you a follower of Christ? Did Muhammad ask you not to swear?

I worship Allah and follow Him through His messenger Muhammad (salallahu 'alayhi wasalam).

Since you follow Jesus, where did Jesus make someone swear or where is it permitted to force someone to swear?

Maximus69:


The truth is out of 10 males, 9 have forcefully had sex with a female before!

Now imagine what will happen if all the 9 were dealt with as rapists, what do you think will happen in our society?

Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat !!!!!!!??!!

I understand why you're a religious fanatic.

Without your magic book to tell you what to do you would be an active sociopath.

Sir, you are a monster and you are already in hell.

TrajansKong:
Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat !!!!!!!??!!
I understand why you're a religious fanatic.
Without your magic book to tell you what to do you would be an active sociopath.
Sir, you are a monster and you are already in hell.

That was then. He isn't anymore that sort person he might have back then being
People with magic book(s) are usually worse
No more a monster than you are, you're prolly scarier, if to be honest
Only God knows what sort of skeleton will roll out if your closet door is opened
As a believer, you're expected to be a religious fanatic

MuttleyLaff:






Nothing is wrong with you today see sire, only that you haven't been following the thread's train of posts properly and reading the holier than thou, him/her without sin cast the first stone hypocrite stance

I have been following the thread but you are abrasive today. That’s a lady and you can sense she has been hurt by rape directly or indirectly; if she is overtaken by error, why don’t you restore her in meekness, though it is a strenuous endeavor? I knew she wasn’t a Nigerian before she said so; let me tell you this, if she is an Asian, you would understand her railing from her culture and not put up this stance you are displaying.

Acehart:
I have been following the thread but you are abrasive today.
That’s a lady and you can sense she has been hurt by rape directly or indirectly; if she is overtaken by error,
why don’t you restore her in meekness, though it is a strenuous endeavor?
I knew she wasn’t a Nigerian before she said so; let me tell you this, if she is an Asian, you would understand her railing from her culture
and not put up this stance you are displaying.

Acehart my brother, it takes clout for Maximus69 to come out and publicly admit to a past deed. He clearly is a changed man from way back then, and as since made peace with His Maker.

Now, no one has condoned rape of any sort here on the thread, certainly not Maximus69 nor I, but for someone like khia, to be casting the first stone, and be forming holier than thou and I am holy pass you, is just taking the biscuit. Who is she to curse/condemn whom God has not cursed/condemned. The guy is a new creation, old things have passed away. All things about him have become new.

Maximus69, did not shared that past of him to gloat or to glorify that dastardly moment of weakness act(s), he was trying to make a point that went the wrong way and gave misleading perceptions. At every point, I confronted him, but you can see, he never gave me face or a response

The bible tells us no sin, is greater than another sin, that sin is sin, so who does khia think she is, to be wriggling in the dagger into Maximus69

khia is AA, whose partner is Ndigbo. She is a strong originally African woman, who gives as good as she takes, she isn't a push over. She is no emotional wreck. She can look after herself, only that she is just a hypocritical, confused of her ancestral roots sanctimonious black racist Israelite wannabe. I owe her and nobagger apologies.

Good riddance to bad rubbish, I'll say. Mtcheew

MuttleyLaff:
Acehart my brother, it takes clout for Maximus69 to come out and publicly admit to a past deed. He clearly is a changed man from way back then, and as since made peace with His Maker
Now, no one has condone rape of any sort here on the thread, certainly not him nor I, but for someone to be casting the first stone, and be forming hollier than thou and holly pass, if just taking the biscuit. Who is she to curse/condemn whom God has not cursed/condemned. The guy is a new creation, old things have passed away. All things about him have become new.

Maximus69, did not shared that past of him to gloat or to glorify that dastardly moment of weakness act(s), he was trying to make a point that went the wrong way and gave misleading perceptions. At every point, I confronted him, but you can see, he never gave me face or a response

The bible tells us no sin, is greater than another sin, that sin is sin, so who does khia think she is, to be wriggling in the dagger into Maximus69

khia is AA, who's partner is Ndigbo. She is a strong African woman, who can give as good as she takes, she isn't a push over. She is no emotional wreck. She is just a hypocritical, confused of her ancestral roots sanctimonious black racist Israelite wannabe. I owe her and nobagger apologies.

Good riddance to bad rubbish, I'll say. Mtcheew

I understand you clearly. What Maximus did was out-worldly. She is casting her stone, but she doesn’t know stones leave marks on the throwers hand. If she is married to an Igbo man, she should know that they are probably the least honourable tribe in Nigeria when it concerns women’s dignity; and their men are known to assault women - check Yaba market. So the stone has left a mark on her hands.

I say this with a big “if”.

Acehart:
I understand you clearly. What Maximus did was out-worldly. She is casting her stone, but she doesn’t know stones leave marks on the throwers hand. If she is married to an Igbo man, she should know that they are probably the least honourable tribe in Nigeria when it concerns women’s dignity; and their men are known to assault women - check Yaba market. So the stone has left a mark on her hands.

Why don’t you restore her in meekness, though it is a strenuous endeavor, you asked, lmao. Tough love, is my response to that. It's the only effective thing her sort understands and might succumb to. Mollycoddling is not an option.

After the reggae, we will play the blues.

khia:

That would be something I did to myself not to another human being.

But the same YAH law says we (who are also sinners) should stone you to death if you're caught!

TrajansKong:


Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat !!!!!!!??!!

I understand why you're a religious fanatic.

Without your magic book to tell you what to do you would be an active sociopath.

Sir, you are a monster and you are already in hell.

According to God's word none of us should be spared now for our sin, but due to his mercies we are granted the privilege to keep living!

MuttleyLaff:
That was then. He isn't anymore that sort person he might have back then being
People with magic book(s) are usually worse
No more a monster than you are, you're prolly scarier, if to be honest
Only God knows what sort of skeleton will roll out if your closet door is opened
As a believer, you're expected to be a religious fanatic

@bolded is what most people don't realize about Jesus!

A young man who looked at all his contemporaries in the face and told them

"none of you will be pardoned for your sins if you don't believe (trust) my Judgment" John 3:16; 14:6

Please tell me he wasn't a religious fanatic!

AntiChristian:


Where did Jesus tell you to force people swear?

I didn't force, I only asked you to follow the advice of your Prophet who said you should swear if you're sincere

advocatejare:

I didn't force, I only asked you to follow the advice of your Prophet who said you should swear if you're sincere

Please tell him o!

Maybe he has forgotten that Jesus never carry physical swords, never used it and never taught his followers to use it!

Whereas Muhammad carried swords and go to war with his own followers.

I'm a soldier, the one and only reason we carry weapons is to force people to obey.

So Jesus and Muhammad, who is forcing adherents?

Maximus69:


Please tell him o!

Maybe he has forgotten that Jesus never carry physical swords, never used it and never taught his followers to use it!

Whereas Muhammad carried swords and go to war with his own followers.

I'm a soldier, the one and only reason we carry weapons is to force people to obey.

So Jesus and Muhammad, who is forcing adherents?

Abi, anywhere he took Islam to, there's chaos.

Chaos that started immediately Muhammad died, fight broke up among his followers so much that they forgot to bury him for 3 days unlike the usual tradition, from then till now, there has been crisis among them

advocatejare:
Abi, anywhere he took Islam to, there's chaos.

Chaos that started immediately Muhammad died, fight broke up among his followers so much that they forgot to bury him for 3 days like the usual tradition, from then till now, there has been crisis among them

The truth is that God never said anything about the race of Ishmael producing a single prophet. Genesis 17:18-21

Before the birth of Ishmael, God's angel told the mother that her son will eventually become a TERRORIST and his generations will take after him! Genesis 16:11-12

That's why Muslims will mention Salam(Peace) with their mouth but truly speaking there is no peace in Islam!

Maximus69:


According to God's word none of us should be spared now for our sin, but due to his mercies we are granted the privilege to keep living!

OK. Be well and be good to yourself. Life is good.

TrajansKong:


OK. Be well and be good to yourself everyone. Life is good.

God is good!

Maximus69:


But the same YAH law says we (who are also sinners) should stone you to death if you're caught!

That was another law created by men not Yah. I'm not a Bible thumping religion head because I know religion is organized by man. I'm a spiritual person who trys to study and understand the scripture. I believe the Bible is a teaching tool for man not an idol to be worshipped. I don't believe every word or action in the Bible was written or inspired by Yah, that is why it is important to study.

Maximus69:
But the same YAH law says we (who are also sinners) should stone you to death if you're caught!

khia:
That was another law created by men not Yah.

That instruction was given to Moshe, inspired by YAH for the benefit of the Israelites and to the detriment of women not found being a virgin on their wedding night

khia:
I'm not a Bible thumping religion head because I know religion is organized by man. I'm a spiritual person who trys to study and understand the scripture. I believe the Bible is a teaching tool for man not an idol to be worshipped.

"You shall not covet your neighbor's house.
You shall not covet your neighbor's wife, or his male or female servant,
his ox or donkey, or anything that belongs to your neighbor.""
- Exodus 20:17

You have no idea what true and pure religion, one that God finds no fault in. True and pure religion is not organised by man, so stop deceiving yourself.

You are a spiritist and not a spiritual person who tries to study and understand the scripture. You are doing lip service to believing that the Bible is a teaching tool for man not an idol to be worshipped.

Your ashkenazi Jews thieving brothers in crime has violated the 10th commandment, they have thieved the land of Israel, then you and them have jointly stolen the identity of true born real McCoy Israelites

MuttleyLaff:
Acehart my brother, it takes clout for Maximus69 to come out and publicly admit to a past deed. He clearly is a changed man from way back then, and as since made peace with His Maker.

Now, no one has condoned rape of any sort here on the thread, certainly not Maximus69 nor I, but for someone like khia, to be casting the first stone, and be forming holier than thou and I am holy pass you, is just taking the biscuit. Who is she to curse/condemn whom God has not cursed/condemned. The guy is a new creation, old things have passed away. All things about him have become new.

Maximus69, did not shared that past of him to gloat or to glorify that dastardly moment of weakness act(s), he was trying to make a point that went the wrong way and gave misleading perceptions. At every point, I confronted him, but you can see, he never gave me face or a response

The bible tells us no sin, is greater than another sin, that sin is sin, so who does khia think she is, to be wriggling in the dagger into Maximus69

khia is AA, whose partner is Ndigbo. She is a strong originally African woman, who gives as good as she takes, she isn't a push over. She is no emotional wreck. She can look after herself, only that she is just a hypocritical, confused of her ancestral roots sanctimonious black racist Israelite wannabe. I owe her and nobagger apologies.

Good riddance to bad rubbish, I'll say. Mtcheew

1. You don't know who my partner is so stop making up lies.

2. Asking Maximus questions about his atonement isn't judging him nor casting stones at him, like I said before you lack comprehensive skills.

3. You are the one confused about my ancestral roots, I know who I am.

4. It's ok for you to confront Maximus with your questions but when I do the same I am judgemental and hypocritical. Who's the hypocrite here?

5. Isn't it a sin for you to judge me and make false accusations against me that I am a black racist Israelite, something you could not know about me unless I told you? Who's the hypocrite again? That's why it's good to ask a person questions to find out what you want to know about them as you and I were asking Maximus.

6. You are the one behaving like a bad santimonius piece of rubbish again as you did prior with Donnie and I because our opinions are different than yours. Instead of understanding another's point of view you want to shove your opinions down our throats.
That is why I ask questions with no judgements just curious to know the other's point of view. I had a right to ask Maximus questions just like he had a right not to reply. This is a discussion, that is why the topic was created.

7. Good Riddance to you as well.

khia:
[s]1. You don't know who my partner is so stop making up lies.

2. Asking Maximus questions about his atonement isn't judging him nor casting stones at him, like I said before you lack comprehensive skills.

3. You are the one confused about my ancestral roots, I know who I am.

4. It's ok for you to confront Maximus with your questions but when I do the same I am judgemental and hypocritical. Who's the hypocrite here?

5. Isn't it a sin for you to judge me and make false accusations against me that I am a black racist Israelite, something you could not know about me unless I told you? Who's the hypocrite again? That's why it's good to ask a person questions to find out what you want to know about them as you and I were asking Maximus.

6. You are the one behaving like a bad santimonius piece of rubbish again as you did prior with donnie and I because our opinions are different than yours. Instead of understanding another's point of view you want to shove your opinions down our throats.
That is why I ask questions with no judgements just curious to know the other's point of view. I had a right to ask Maximus questions just like he had a right not to reply. This is a discussion, that is why the topic was created.

7. Good Riddance to you as well.[/s]

You are AA. Your partner is Ibo. You're a hypocrite. You are in denial of your African ancestral roots. You're a black racist. You're a wannabe Israelite. You're a pathetic plastic Jew. You're confused of your heritage, calling yourself Negro and not African but a black-skinned Israelite. Period.

MuttleyLaff:


That instruction was given to Moshe, inspired by YAH for the benefit of the Israelites and to the detriment of women not found being a virgin on their wedding night

"You shall not covet your neighbor's house.
You shall not covet your neighbor's wife, or his male or female servant,
his ox or donkey, or anything that belongs to your neighbor.""
- Exodus 20:17

You have no idea what true and pure religion, one that God finds no fault in. True and pure religion is not organised by man, so stop deceiving yourself.

You are a spiritist and not a spiritual person who tries to study and understand the scripture. You are doing lip service to believing that the Bible is a teaching tool for man not an idol to be worshipped.

Your ashkenazi Jews thieving brothers in crime has violated the 10th commandment, they have thieved the land of Israel, then you and them have jointly stolen the identity of true born real McCoy Israelites

You are very stubborn and a liar as well. You have the nerve to call those identity thieves in a fake land that doesn't exist my brothers and you know I don't condone them. You and your hypocrisy is over the top. Don't preach to me about the scriptures when you are doing everything the scriptures teaches against like baring false witness against (lying) me, calling me a spiritist when I TOLD YOU I Am A SPIRITUAL. Everything about you is sinister.

MuttleyLaff:
You are AA. Your partner is Ibo. You're a hypocrite. You are in denial of your African ancestral roots. You're a black racist. You're a wannabe Israelite. You're a pathetic plastic Jew. You're confused of your heritage, calling yourself Negro and not African but a black-skinned Israelite. Period.

Lies upon lies upon lies. Scratching out the truth doesn't make it less truthful. YAH will be your judge.