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Maximus69:
TRINITY reloaded!

@ Pastor DrLiveLogic

Perhaps your business has taken part of the day from you just as it happens right here with me, but i'm still very much with you on the definition of your Trinitarian Doghead.

TATIME:
Just another noisemaker of no repute!

TRINITY definitions of various forms, ask him the name of his church and see the way he will flair up like the mother hen with little chics. He's just happy to engage JWs in an argument, nothing is in his head.

Thanks to God i've crossed noisier rivers than his type so his case is cheap, if he wants to talk i've given him points to work on.

~You can't teach others if Jesus do appears personally to some people, every sane person will like to see Jesus too so there's no need to teach others.

~Pastors are everywhere claiming teachers of God's word, when DrLiveLogic said people should read the Bible on their own and holy ghost will minister onto them.

~His definition of Trinity contradicts others that have been on this thread so he need to tell the forum which is correct.

~Jesus prayed for Unity amongst his own followers and only JWs are living Witnesses of such Unity and peace.

~Trinitarians on Nairaland have been arguing, abusing, insulting even cursing one another, let him solve that before coming forward to say the most Peaceful group on planet earth is on the wrong.

johnw47:
just a lot of false jw noise

false jw tatime

you false jw liars are known by your lies - by your fruits:

Mat_7:16  Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?

you false jw's gather thorns and thistles - you gather liars like yourselves



Joh 8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Rev 21:8  But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.





Rev_20:15  And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

Maximus69:
I wonder how they are claiming to have love for the TRUTH!

Clarify no way, and they chear themselves for arguing blindly against JWs!

Rádaràda!

Go to other threads and see how they argue blindly against one another, it's only when they hear JWs that they'll all sweep their grudges under the carpet as if they're in agreement.

Ask them to mention the name of church they belong and expose their hypocritical alliance against God's people!

Janosky:
Bros, Have you forgotten your LIE that the Father of Yahweh, sent his son Yahweh to the earth in Hebrews 1:1-2 ?
Bros you have the option to either quantirinu to DECEIVE YOURSELF or set yourself free from the Trinity GIBBERISH

Janosky:
Every discerning person following this thread already knows who is lying...

When you know Bible more than Jesus Christ, John 1:18 is carnal minded statement for your Trinitarian DELUSION.

johnw47:
i want you not to be afraid to answer DrLiveLogic questions
which so far you are avoiding like false jw's do when they are cornered and scared

johnw47:
false jw janosky

that is one of the few truths you have spoken
you false jw's certainly are known by your non stop lies
they are definitely what you are known best for:

Joh 8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Rev 21:8  But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

DrLiveLogic:
LMAO. God spoke through his son by becoming a man(son of man) and relating with his creation as fellow flesh and blood.

Now don't waste my time. Go and face my posts and if you can deny those scriptures that Jesus is YAHWEH, do so now or run faraway from this thread and forever hold your peace when Jesus is being worshipped.

DrLiveLogic:
What's this? An all out attack from JWs? LMAO, 20 goats will still scamper before one lion. LMAO. I hope Rozz is seated with popcorn and soda.

Hahahaha. The problem with you JWs is that you don't know God. Y'all think God is like a man or an angel who can't be in two places at the same time and you wonder how God can be on earth and heaven at the same time.
Joh 3:13 KJV And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is (Greek: being) in heaven.
I bet y'all never knew Jesus said he was in two places at the same time. Earth and heaven at the same time.

I hear you ask what sense this makes?
Sit down you carnal minds and learn basic knowledge.
God's destiny for man is to make him in the image of God i.e. to be exactly as God is.
How can a creature who cannot conceive what the Creator is like become like the Creator except the Creator first turns Himself into a Creature and shows as a fellow creature, what the creature must do to become as the Creator.
Is this not the simple gospel? God became a man so that he can show man how to become God.

Read and learn, Mr.
Phi 2:6-7 6 Who, being in nature, God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: 7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men:

Do you see clearly the mystery. Jesus was God because it is only God that is equal with God, no angel or creature is equal with God. But when God wanted to manifest as a creature, he gave up his divine reputation and took the form of flesh and blood to show men that only through the cross can men become God. (Let this mind be in you, Philippians 2:5)

What you call trinity is not theee persons but one person who takes three stages to reveal Himself fully.

DappaD:
I'm just revisiting this thread after many days!


This guy is dull shaa
I've been reading all your comments on this thread and none has made sense in any way!
How can you keep quoting scriptures that aren't even in agreement with your argument?
My friend go and find somewhere and hide your face.

solite3:
where did solite3 say there are three Almighty Gods

Janosky:
DrLiveLogic desperado survival mode activated

DrLiveLogic:
** I forgot to add in #1
Joh 3:13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.

The Lord Jesus himself testified that he was on earth(Son) and in heaven (Father) at the same time.

#3 THE THRONE OF GOD
It is evident that God owns the Sovereign throne in the whole universe and every other is under His. We also know that Jesus is enthroned at the right hand of the Father. This statement has made the carnal mind think that the Father sits on one throne and the son sits located beside Him at the right.
But does the scripture teach that right hand is literal or does the scripture teach that it is figurative, that in the end both Father and Son as One Being have one throne? Let us find out.

In the apocalypse, John is given the clearest revelation of the heavenly administration in all the scripture. In Revelation 4, he describes the throne of God surrounded by elders' thrones. Notice he doesn't describe any throne located at the literal right of God's throne because there is no such throne.

The question is where in heaven is the throne of the Son, the Lamb of God?
Rev 22:1 And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb.
Rev 22:3 And there shall be no more curse: but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it; and his servants shall serve him:

The answer is clear here that it is only one throne, not two different thrones, belonging to God and also to the Lamb. Both are one Being and have just one throne in heaven and his servants serve him. Now watch again.

Rev 20:11-13 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them. And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works. And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.

Furthermore, notice that it is this same Being, God who sits on the throne that will judge both the living and the dead. Some say this is the Father because the heaven and earth fled from his face. True, but it is Father and Son in one Being more precisely.
Remember we have shown in #2 that it is both YAHWEH of OT and Jesus Christ in One Being who will judge the dead and living.(2Ti 4:1, Ecc 3:17)
Again watch!

Rev 11:16-18 And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God, Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned. And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou should give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and should destroy them which destroy the earth.

Finally, here, we see even more clearly here that it is the same God who sat on the single sovereign throne who all the elders worship. Surely this is the Father, YAHWEH whose throne was described in the midst of the elders' in Revelation 4.
But behold it is also he who will judge the dead(unrighteous) and the living, (the prophets whom he will reward with his saints). Of course we know who it is that judges the dead and living by now. Surely it is the Lord Jesus(2Ti 4:1). Again, we see here that Father and Son as one Being bearing the title, "Who is and was and is to come"(as shown in the first part) who in one Being sit on the single sovereign throne and will reign.



Clearly, right hand of the Father is not geographical since there is no throne at his right in John's heavenly vista but it is figurative of his Omnipotence. I can treat this separately from scriptures after we have all agreed that YAHWEH is Jesus.
Q.E.D. Let's move to another prerogative of God


N.B: If you cannot prove that the scriptures above are false, then you have accepted that Jesus is YAHWEH. Please don't quote me if you can't deny these scriptures. You are not worthy of an answer and please nobody should come with any distraction of trinity this, trinity that or peace and unity. What we are dealing with is simple, the Divinity of Jesus Christ, whether he is YAHWEH or not. Simple.


Cc: johnw47, achorladey, Rozz, Maximus69, TATIME, Janosky, Peacefullove, haywizzy007, Acehart, solite3, KNOWMORE56, hoopernikao

Maximus69:
Walahi Talahi you missed today's Stand Up Nigeria Comedy Show o!

solite3:
I have proof that God the father is a different person from the Son and the Holy Ghost,
I have proof that Jesus is Almighty God
The Holy Spirit is a person and Almighty God and the father a person and Almighty God.

DrLiveLogic:
** I forgot to add in #1
Joh 3:13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.

The Lord Jesus himself testified that he was on earth(Son) and in heaven (Father) at the same time.

#3 THE THRONE OF GOD
It is evident that God owns the Sovereign throne in the whole universe and every other is under His. We also know that Jesus is enthroned at the right hand of the Father. This statement has made the carnal mind think that the Father sits on one throne and the son sits located beside Him at the right.
But does the scripture teach that right hand is literal or does the scripture teach that it is figurative, that in the end both Father and Son as One Being have one throne? Let us find out.

In the apocalypse, John is given the clearest revelation of the heavenly administration in all the scripture. In Revelation 4, he describes the throne of God surrounded by elders' thrones. Notice he doesn't describe any throne located at the literal right of God's throne because there is no such throne.

The question is where in heaven is the throne of the Son, the Lamb of God?
Rev 22:1 And he shewed me a pure river of water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and of the Lamb.
Rev 22:3 And there shall be no more curse: but the throne of God and of the Lamb shall be in it; and his servants shall serve him:

The answer is clear here that it is only one throne, not two different thrones, belonging to God and also to the Lamb. Both are one Being and have just one throne in heaven and his servants serve him. Now watch again.

Rev 20:11-13 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them. And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works. And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.

Furthermore, notice that it is this same Being, God who sits on the throne that will judge both the living and the dead. Some say this is the Father because the heaven and earth fled from his face. True, but it is Father and Son in one Being more precisely.
Remember we have shown in #2 that it is both YAHWEH of OT and Jesus Christ in One Being who will judge the dead and living.(2Ti 4:1, Ecc 3:17)
Again watch!

Rev 11:16-18 And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped God, Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned. And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou should give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and should destroy them which destroy the earth.

Finally, here, we see even more clearly here that it is the same God who sat on the single sovereign throne who all the elders worship. Surely this is the Father, YAHWEH whose throne was described in the midst of the elders' in Revelation 4.
But behold it is also he who will judge the dead(unrighteous) and the living, (the prophets whom he will reward with his saints). Of course we know who it is that judges the dead and living by now. Surely it is the Lord Jesus(2Ti 4:1). Again, we see here that Father and Son as one Being bearing the title, "Who is and was and is to come"(as shown in the first part) who in one Being sit on the single sovereign throne and will reign.



Clearly, right hand of the Father is not geographical since there is no throne at his right in John's heavenly vista but it is figurative of his Omnipotence. I can treat this separately from scriptures after we have all agreed that YAHWEH is Jesus.
Q.E.D. Let's move to another prerogative of God


N.B: If you cannot prove that the scriptures above are false, then you have accepted that Jesus is YAHWEH. Please don't quote me if you can't deny these scriptures. You are not worthy of an answer and please nobody should come with any distraction of trinity this, trinity that or peace and unity. What we are dealing with is simple, the Divinity of Jesus Christ, whether he is YAHWEH or not. Simple.


Cc: johnw47, achorladey, Rozz, Maximus69, TATIME, Janosky, Peacefullove, haywizzy007, Acehart, solite3, KNOWMORE56, hoopernikao

Janosky:
Solite3 said "God the Father Almighty God is a different person from God the son Almighty God and also different from God the ghost Almighty God.
= 3 different Almighty Gods.
John 17:3, John 4:24, John 20:17 Jesus says his only true God and our Father is a spirit. NOT 3 spirits.
Solite3 and Johnw, I wanna asks both of you:
Is Jesus Christ lying or Solite3/Johnw are LIARS?

Janosky:
Solite3 said "God the Father Almighty God is a different person from God the son Almighty God and also different from God the ghost Almighty God.
= 3 different Almighty Gods.
John 17:3, John 4:24, John 20:17 Jesus says his only true God and our Father is a spirit. NOT 3 spirits.
Solite3 and Johnw, I wanna asks both of you:
Is Jesus Christ lying or Solite3/Johnw are LIARS?

Janosky:
The question is still pending.....

DappaD:
Please is anyone still giving attention to that human being above my comment?

DappaD:
Please is anyone still giving attention to that human being above my comment?

Rozz:
dont be too sure of yourself

Janosky:
Trinitarians are desperadoes desperately trying very hard to prove they know the Bible more than Jesus & prove him wrong.
Wetin Musa no go see for goalpost ?

johnw47:
oh duh false jw janosky of no understanding
we all know who the liars are

Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are three persons, not three god's

you polytheist false jw do though believe in two god's
a almighty god the father, and a mighty god jesus


Joh 8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a
murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie,
he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Janosky:
Exodus 6:3,Psalm83:13 Your own Bible says Jehovah ALONE is God Almighty, the Most High.

El Gibbowr (Hebrew language for Mighty God/ mighty one) is a SCRIPTURAL reference to man, Jehovah, angels and Jesus.
WAYO johnw no TWISTING the Bible truth

WAYO Johnw Desperado, God is a spirit,says Jesus.
How many persons be that spirit in John 4:24? .

johnw47:
DrLiveLogic, yes the Word - Jesus Christ is YHWH


YHWH
Psa 102:25 Of old hast thou laid the foundation of the earth: and the heavens are the work of thy hands.

Jesus
Heb 1:10 And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands:



YHWH
Isa 45:23 I have sworn by myself, the word is gone out of my mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, That unto me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear.

Jesus
Php 2:10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;
Php 2:11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.



YHWH
Deu 10:17 For the LORD your God is God of gods, and Lord of lords, a great God, a mighty, and a terrible, which regardeth not persons, nor taketh reward:

Jesus
Rev 17:14 These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful.

Incidentally, see at Deut 17:14 God is referred to as a mighty God, and we know that God is also referred to as Almighty God, they are not two gods, a mighty god and an almighty God as polytheist false jw's say.



YHWH
Isa 44:6 Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God.

Jesus
Joh 1:49 Nathanael answered and saith unto him, Rabbi, thou art the Son of God; thou art the King of Israel.

Rev 22:12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.
Rev 22:13 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.



YHWH
Psa 130:7 Let Israel hope in the LORD: for with the LORD there is mercy, and with him is plenteous redemption.
Psa 130:8 And he shall redeem Israel from all his iniquities.

Jesus
Tit 2:14 Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.



YHWH
Zec 12:10 And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.

Jesus
Rev 1:7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.



YHWH
Joe 2:32 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the LORD shall be delivered: for in mount Zion and in Jerusalem shall be deliverance, as the LORD hath said, and in the remnant whom the LORD shall call.

Jesus
Rom 10:13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.

DrLiveLogic:
Hahahaha. Don't worry, I've not forgotten. Let me finish with these impostors first, then I'll come to her.

Janosky:
Exodus 6:3,Psalm83:13 Your own Bible says Jehovah ALONE is God Almighty, the Most High.

El Gibbowr (Hebrew language for Mighty God/ mighty one) is a SCRIPTURAL reference to man, Jehovah, angels and Jesus.
WAYO johnw no TWISTING the Bible truth

WAYO Johnw Desperado, God is a spirit,says Jesus.
How many persons be that spirit in John 4:24? .

johnw47:
oh duh false jw janosky of no understanding
we all know who the liars are

Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are three persons, not three god's

you polytheist false jw do though believe in two god's
a almighty god the father, and a mighty god jesus


Joh 8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a
murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie,
he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

solite3:
I m fine bro