jornwhite:

Your insecurity is all over the place, calm bro... i must admit your post is dope... with or without you men, even simps will fvck. i followed ur thread & even complimented you cos i could relate to everything you say same as that vbunja guy.
Game is all about exploiting women sexually & financially for selfish reasons. if you think otherwise ... the thread is yours

said it like a true player

This guy no serious at all. If this was how Rollo or other redpill writers acted when vilified most of us might never have known the truth.

This shows you never really had something new to share in the first place. This thread was a total waste of time.

jornwhite:
Buh your oga as made it clear, the essence of his post is not to get women ... clearly you are on the wrong thread

You are not aware of his contradiction.


NB: The OP had already deactivated before this post was made. From henceforth all his posts that I will bring out to buttress my point will have his name as a link to his unnamed posts.

jornwhite:



Buh your oga as made it clear, the essence of his post is not to get women ... clearly you are on the wrong thread

You are so evil. After their "Oga" abandoned them, you ruined the hopes of the poor fan boys to get laid.

someone should take over this thread and teach game and redpill so we can rub the success of the thread on his face and let him die in shame with his new monicker

LaEvilIMiss:


said it like a true player

Nah !! me i be learner ... me sef dey find teacher that knows it all.

Martinez39s:
You are not aware of his contradiction.

Alol !! their is no way a simp could av noticed his contradiction o! or i wasnt just ready to piss him off so early .. he could not even stand d heat of a candle how much more a burner, #game without maturity = ??

Skepticus:




You are so evil. After their "Oga" abandoned them, you ruined the hopes of the poor fan boys to get laid.

how ! Me that go to church on sundays ... any boy that wants to get laid should approach or visit a lady not blackneo .. #pls no homos

Martinez39s:
ilegendd, is this you?

That's ilegend
Creating new moniker always to reply people shows how apprehensive he is

Jasbi:
Good day, I've been following this post and I've learned a lot. I'm a beta trying to be an alpha and I really want to put most things I've learnt here to practice, but my question is that will this techniques here work on my partner if I put it into action, cause she already knows I am the chaser type of guy and its as if she's the one controlling the relationship. she's someone I love so much but she hasn't been truly reciprocating the love I have for her, or should I just ditch her and get someone else to begin with and start using the techniques.

Yes o, she’s the person you should start practicing what you learnt on. If she misbehave beyond her limit, dump her immediately without looking back! Remember that you’re the price and she’s benefiting a lot from you. So you should be in control and don’t act weak. Meanwhile, it’s a known fact that ladies usually dump a weak boyfriend in the long run after enjoying all his money and resources, so wise up bro!

ElasmoBranchii:
This guy no serious at all. If this was how Rollo or other redpill writers acted when vilified most of us might never have known the truth.

This shows you never really had something new to share in the first place. This thread was a total waste of time.

NB: The OP had already deactivated before this post was made. From henceforth all his posts that I will bring out to buttress my point will have his name as a link to his unnamed posts.


The OP has been fishy from the onset but I didn't want to say my suspicions about him so that I wouldn't appear as a jealous hater, I would give him the benefit of doubt, and he would eventually expose himself if he is a clown. As it turned out, the OP is a pua clown who was just recycling what he has read but doesn't fully understand. I don't think he had anything to offer given his prolonged stalling, lofty arrogance and self-importance, contradictions, wilful ignorance, and unrealistic bragging and promises. He didn't even get the concept of abundance mentality right and many didn't notice. He didn't even know that PUA and game are different names of the same thing. In the game/pua circle, there are those that get it right and those that don't (it's a matter of your redpill knowledge); there are genuine individuals and there are scam artistes.

For someone who claimed to have read many books and blogs on the redpill subject, his perpetual ignorance and hatred of the MGTOW group is highly suspicious. His contradiction, which I pointed out, shows he doesn't know what he is saying. How can people look up to you for help when you don't know what you are saying? To me, he was clearly lifting his contents from somewhere without understanding it. He even fell to an abject level to strawman the MGTOW men in his post below. If you click on that post and see the picture, you will agree with me that no MGTOW guy will see such a helpless fellow and just say "join MGTOW." It has never happened. Instead we would advise the fellow to cut off his girlfriend, and we would feed him the red pill. Such strawmanning is highly suspicious and reeks of immense ignorance for someone who claims to know much.

BlackNeo:
^{This is a guy that needs game! This is a guy that needs help!. You don't begin by telling him to join MGTOW! You fucking teach him how to use game to punish the woman oppressing him. So much that she will beg and beg and when next she crosses path with another man, she will think twice before dipping her filthy hands into her bag of tricks}

If he was serious, nothing would have stopped him. The heat he received, if we would call it that, isn't up to one 1% of what Ubunja, myself, ilegendd and co have received here but it didn't stop us. We kept on, and we didn't try to use the beta label to shame haters or critics off; we didn't try to mobilise our "followers" to fend off haters and critics (a suspicious and emotional move); we were open to opposing and diverse ideas; we didn't complain and we learnt to ignore. My famous and recent meme thread was created after two attempts. The first meme thread was literally derailed by a hater (sexylassiè2) and a mod shut it down for no reason. It didn't stop me because I was bent on achieving that thread to help others and entertain them. The OP is not a serious individual. Surprisingly, he is a bit too emotional.

Another suspicious thing is his fickle nature and his subtle and desperate desire for an echo chamber. The latter is reminiscent of a cult leader and smart scam artiste.

_{● He claims he wants to help yet he can't ignore and continue. He prefers to keep shouting "haters and co stay off" and childishly throwing the beta label to drive everyone off. Even more chidish and suspicious, he was trying to mobilise his followers to fend off critics, haters, and opposing/diverse ideas. Wtf?
● He claims he wants to help yet he contradicts himself and can't be logically consistent. He wasn't smart enough to assimilate the many correction given to cure his ignorance on what MGTOW is. He wasn't even smart enough to know that he can't have a private space on a public forum.
● He claims he is an alpha yet he is easily disturbed by what others are saying. If he is a real man that is suited to achieve in the real world, doesn't he know that he will always have haters, critics, mere observers and supporters on his way to achieving something?
● He kept threatening to closing down his thread if his followers didn't unite to fend off haters. Lol. Didn't he know that his post is timeless and many that are coming will benefit if he has something to offer? Did he think he was doing us a favour by releasing his posts? Did he think his posts were manner from above?
● A CONFUSED AND INDECISIVE MIND: he said one more intrusion will make him close down his thread and deactivate. Despite there not being an intrusion, he decided to close down his thread. He then left his phone number in case of those who wanted help. He later deleted his phone number for private/security reasons and said he would leave his account for those that need help to reach him via email. Guess what? He deactivated his account. Is this a serious person to you? Is this not a confused clown?}

Johnwick64:
someone should take over this thread and teach game and redpill so we can rub the success of the thread on his face and let him die in shame with his new monicker

Let's not make decisions based on a clown. We have nothing to prove to a clown.

I don't think the OP is afraid of what people have been throwing at him here. Clearly he is a man that knows what he is doing. He made it clear that further detailing of "his thread" would lead to him closing it and that's exactly what he did. To me, that's a man standing on his word. It's one of the characteristics of alphas

I was really hoping to learn from him though.

cfree14:
I don't think the OP is afraid of what people have been throwing at him here. Clearly he is a man that knows what he is doing. He made it clear that further detailing of "his thread" would lead to him closing it and that's exactly what he did. To me, that's a man standing on his word. It's one of the characteristics of alphas

I was really hoping to learn from him though.

NB: The OP had already deactivated before this post was made. From henceforth all his posts that I will bring out to buttress my point will have his name as a link to his unnamed posts.

Have you been following this thread from the very beginning to the last? How can you say he knows what he is doing given his blatant contradiction which I pointed out? How can you say he knows what he is doing when he didn't even hit the nail on the well known concept of the abundance mentality? What about the unrealistic bragging, promises and pious hopes he delibrately dished out? What about the perpetual ignorance and hatred towards the MGTOW group despite the many corrections and his claim to have read many redpill books and blogs?

Why fall for the lie that others were trying to derail his thread? We all know blackneo took a very long time to make his next post (which were short few posts for the most part) when he could have compiled his stuff and released them at once to minimize the effect of "derailers"? No one could stop his mission, and no one was sabotaging him or contesting anything with him. Despite the many discussions and exchange of ideas, his posts were still being followed. Left to me, I would say he had ulterior motives and nothing to offer so he closed his messages after stalling with no end in sight.

We can agree to disagree, but don't let many of his antics fly over your head. Read this thread, post by post, and look at the last three pages carefully, especially from the time the OP stopped his message, and see my analysis in case you missed anything. If you still insists he knows what he is doing and his intentions are genuine, so be it for you.

cfree14:
I don't think the OP is afraid of what people have been throwing at him here. Clearly he is a man that knows what he is doing. He made it clear that further detailing of "his thread" would lead to him closing it and that's exactly what he did. To me, that's a man standing on his word. It's one of the characteristics of alphas

I was really hoping to learn from him though.

I just simply lolh! wen i see guyz think they can learn GAME, for instance, as a newbie if i give you a playstation pad, @most i can only relate d keypads to you X is 4 pass, box 4 shot triangle long pass ..e.t.c that is just d basis what determines whether you'll be player with so much win or lose is inborn ability, bro if you get that thing called "instinct" you no need any teacher.
what you can learn is redpill or PUA to upgrade ur level of game. everyone has game we are just on different levels. let no one decieve you they can make you what is not inside you

This is sounding like a broken record, the OP has moved on. Please let it be.


Progress, life goes beyond over analyse.

Blue pill, purple pill or red pill. Do your thing and I do my thing


Different strokes for different folks.


Life is too short to indulge in endless arguments and contests that won't have positive effects on the bottom line.

emmanuelewumi:
This is sounding like a broken record, the OP has moved on. Please let it be.

Progress, life goes beyond over analyse.

Blue pill, purple pill or red pill. Do your thing and I do my thing

Different strokes for different folks.

Life is too short to indulge in endless arguments and contests that won't have positive effects on the bottom line.

Don't stress yourself. When everyone is tired, they would leave. Even if they don't, it shouldn't be your problem. Chill.

Martinez39s:
The OP has been fishy from the onset but I didn't want to say my suspicions about him so that I wouldn't appear as a jealous hater, I would give him the benefit of doubt, and he would eventually expose himself if he is a clown. As it turned out, the OP is a pua clown who was just recycling what he has read but doesn't fully understand. I don't think he had anything to offer given his prolonged stalling, lofty arrogance and self-importance, contradictions, wilful ignorance, and unrealistic bragging and promises. He didn't even get the concept of abundance mentality right and many didn't notice. He didn't even know that PUA and game are different names of the same thing. In the game/pua circle, there are those that get it right and those that don't (it's a matter of your redpill knowledge); there are genuine individuals and there are scam artistes.

I don't think the guy is confused, actually I consider him extermely machiavellian. He has shown his proficiency in the "48 laws of power", I have read the book but I haven't actively applied the laws before.

Law 11: Learn to keep people dependent on you.
Never teach them enough so they can do without you.

Law 16: Use absence to increase respect and honor. Create value through scarcity

Law 27: Play on people's needs to believe to create cult like following; Keep your words vague but full of promises, emphasize enthusiasm over rationality and clear thinking. If you have no enemy invent one. Given a straw man to react against. Your followers will tighten and cohere.

Guys work on yourself, make the money and be successful, have a high self esteem, don't seek for anybody's validation, be truthful to yourself, be a goal getter,have good communication skill, learn how to set boundaries, be good at what you do and be very confident. I doubt if 10% of the population have all these qualities.


You can call it anything you want eg gaming, resourcefulness etc.

If you can combine all these qualities you will suceed and do well in your career, relationship with people ie opposite sex inclusive, business, finance, emotions, marriage etc

ElasmoBranchii:
I don't think the guy is confused, actually I consider him extermely machiavellian. He has shown his proficiency in the "48 laws of power", I have read the book but I haven't actively applied the laws before.

Law 11: Learn to keep people dependent on you.
Never teach them enough so they can do without you.

Law 16: Use absence to increase respect and honor. Create value through scarcity

Law 27: Play on people's needs to believe to create cult like following; Keep your words vague but full of promises, emphasize enthusiasm over rationality and clear thinking. If you have no enemy invent one. Given a straw man to react against. Your followers will tighten and cohere.

This is arguably true. It seems like he employed these too. Nevertheless, I think his intentions weren't genuine and he didn't know what he was saying given his contradiction and errors. He had ulterior motives. He was probably lifting his ideas from somewhere and he didn't understand them properly. More suspicious was his cheap and chidish antics. When he saw that he couldn't achieve his motives since we were on his neck, he threatened to close the thread and he tried mobilising his followers to do fend off his critics and haters.

NB: The OP had already deactivated before this post was made. From henceforth all his posts that I will bring out to buttress my point will have his name as a link to his unnamed posts.

@ Martinez39s You are the one that chased the guy away. . In fact you derailed this thread . I like his work tho, you should have let him finished what he started tho as an alpha/redpilled that u claim to be coz he has been insisting that he's going to leave the thread if he keeps getting criticized or mentioned by betas, redpilled and MGTOWs which you are. His own definition of mgtow doesn't matter now...

Sometimes it's wise to just watch and let ppl be. I have been lowkey following the thread and viewing every comments word to word but not saying a single word. I'm not popular here but he obviously stated that he doesn't want to be criticized. I gave him that respect because it's his thread and we learn new things everyday. I don't even need to say a word before I learn and pick the few things I agree with in all he has to say.

You actually wrote as much as he did in his own thread. It's a public forum, yeah but sometimes it's OK to let ppl have things how they want and watch. Peace

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Kingroad:
The OP is a weakling with too many memorized theories from Reddit and YouTube. He is good at bringing the heat and abusing people, but can't bear it when given to him. That is pure beta behavior and his insecurity is obvious.

He thought he knows what others don't when in truth, he just read them from somewhere and paraphrased them without real-life experiences. He even claimed he'll create a YouTube channel and post real day-gaming videos. It's all audio bragging to get people hooked and take them private to scam them.

After some months of taking people private, he will get tired and start trying to charge them money. He wasn't here to help, but to brag about "game" and how he knows it better and how others are betas and he's a real gamer.

Hungry simp who just found "game" during this lockdown (5 months ago) and soon to be a scammer.

I didn't bother reading his childish rants above because he is too emotional to be man.

You guys should take a look at a real man — his name is Amdman in auto section. Abuse him all you like and he won't reply you and if he manages to reply you, he won't abuse you back. That is a real man, not this audio alpha male gamer with too many theories he stole online (5 months ago) from books, Reddit, and YouTube without real experience.

The OP is a hungry gamer with nothing (but memorized theories he crammed online) to offer.

you saw it all bro..that guy has nothing to offer. Just an empty barrel

Joker09:
@ Martinez39s You are the one that pursued the guy. . In fact you derailed this thread . I like his work tho, you should have let him finished what he started tho as an alpha that u claim to be coz he has been insisting that he's going to leave the thread if he keeps getting criticized or mentioned by betas, redpilled and MGTOWs which you are. His own definition of mgtow doesn't matter now...

You actually wrote as much as he did in his own thread. It's a public forum, yeah but sometimes it's OK to let ppl have things how they want and watch.

Edited

NB: The OP had already deactivated before this post was made. From henceforth all his posts that I will bring out to buttress my point will have his name as a link to his unnamed posts.

I did not derail his thread. Go through this thread again. Nothing stopped him from continuing and helping. He stopped because he wanted to.

When this thread started, I thought he was looking for guidance on the next step after the redpil which he insisted was game. I had tried to lend a helping hand and recommend gamers to him (Ubuñja, ilegeñdd, harddòn) but he made his intentions clear and I backed off. When people mentioned me on this thread afterwards, I took most of the discussions to my meme thread except those for educational purposes. Other posts from me and others were never made to derail or sabotage the OP. Remember that the OP took a very long time to update his message, and between the long delays, innocent discussions were going on. Despite the discussions, OP's posts were still being actively followed. Nothing was derailing or sabotaging the OP except he wanted to stop himself. Don't blame me. In fact, what about the many posts of others? Did I not tell Skepticus to avoid judging the OP until he gets to the end of his messages? Did I ever bring hatred, opposing, or sabotage while the OP was releasing his content? NO!

If you are seeing things from my angle, you will know that the OP had ulterior motives. I knew this at a point in the beginning but I kept to myself so as not seem like a hater. He is not the first of his kind that I have encountered. The smart dude was simply trying to play on the beta's earnest hope of easy puśsy, and gather followers (majority of men are betas) that he would later turn around and milk for money. He was using big promises and fake confidence (which came off as bad attitude and arrogance) to bait betas. The fake confidence was to show that he knew what he was doing. He was lifting good redpill contents that he read but didn't really understand hence he contradicted himself and made errors. Here are the big promises (with high confidence).

BlackNeo:

_{Bro, this is about Game. Not MGTOW. You are always free to create a topic for that. I cater to the vast men who actually want to be worshipped by women and get sex (which they actually want) everytime they want it without diminishing their godhood as men!}

BlackNeo:

_{Well, I can only say these:
.
.
2) I believe there is a problem with many redpillers who dont practice what the preach. On many blogs it was a topic that was discussed. Game is a step towards redpill liberation. And it is the most important because the vast majority of men still want sex. Your MGTOW are negligible. Men want to be able to get clean sex not from prostitutes or Jerking off. Men want sex on their terms from their wives and girlfriends or friends with benefits. Game is very important to this end.
.
.
4) I wont debate you. Youre free to have your own thoughts about what men are or arent. As for me, I will address reality. I want a society which has less simps, less sex hungry, depraved men who will end up losing their greatness for sex. I will help them get it so easily it will be nothing of importance to them. They wont pay for it, beg for it, negotiate for it, or force their way to get it. It will be given to them when they want it, how they want. In summary, I will be teaching men how women will believe that it is their obligation to give them sex because they deserve it as MEN!}

BlackNeo:
<sub>Women are the only sex that can be trained just like a dog. I know this can sound preposterous to many guys. Women are only tough to you because you are Beta. With gamers they become sheep. With Game, you can train a woman to be just like a dog. Sit, sit. Stand, stand. Talk, talk. She will do everything.

How's this possible?

It's because women are creatures of evolution. Unlike men they have a program hardwired into their brain. If you can understand this program and use it ( game) you can take charge of the computer ( women)

Men are not like this. Men are not hardwired the same way . Think about it, why do you often hear things like Naija women too like money? Naija women too like gossip? You can never satisfy a woman? Check social media. Look at all your women, from the secondary school drop out to the UK university slayqueen, doing virtually the same thing albeit with some variations?

It can only be because at the base, all women are the same. The same program runs within them. Fucking AWALT!</sub>

Notice how he flared up when he read I and skepticus's discussions where we made our intentions of keenly following, scrutinizing and criticising him known. He knew, just like I did, that he had no results to offer and his ulterior motives wouldn't be easily achieved with people like us on watch. He started throwing the beta label and he got into an unnecessary and childish fight with ilegendd (customer struggle?). When his beta label didn't work (I had told someone that we told care about the label), he tried another strategy: trying to mobilise the desperate followers he thought he had to chase us off by threatening these followers that he would close his thread. He aim was that he supposed followers, on the sad brink of losing their precious promised free and easy pùssy, will group and attack us and his critics, neutral observers, and haters.

When that didn't work, he knew he had to quit as a smart scam artiste because no one was falling for his big promises and pious hopes as he wanted. He was even stalling with no end in sight and repeating redpill facts we already knew. He knew he was done for if he proceeded and didn't grind out results as promised. Before incorrectly differentiating between PUA and game, he said that one more comment from a "beta" would make him close his thread. There was no comment but he closed his thread regardless. Am I lying? If I do a break down on this guy, you will see a lot of things about him flew over many people's head.

Notice his desperation for an echo chamber and how easily he is distressed by criticism, opposing and diverse ideas, and scrutiny. Isn't this redolent of cult leaders and scam artistes? He could have continued his message, ignored, and achieved his aim and results if they were genuine but he just couldn't stop shouting "haters, betas, redpill/MGTOW expert stay off" and trying to beta shame people into leaving his thread. I have more to say but I will stop here. We must all learn to see bùllshit. PUA SCAM IS A LUCRATIVE BUSINESS.

Finally, get it into your head that he didn't want to help. He gave up too easily for someone that wanted to help. He had ulterior motives

In his last posts, he said one more intrusion will make him close down his thread and deactivate. Despite there not being an intrusion, he decided to close down his thread. He then left his phone number in case of those who wanted help. He later deleted his phone number for private/security reasons and said he would leave his account for those that need help to reach him via email. Guess what? He deactivated his account. Is this a serious person to you? Is this not a clown?

Is this someone that really wants to help? Don't kid yourself

NB: The OP had already deactivated before this post was made. From henceforth all his posts that I will bring out to buttress my point will have his name as a link to his unnamed posts.

@Joker09 and the rest

For those accusing me and others of derailing and chasing blackneo away, here is what your BlackNeo had to say about the discussions that we were having while he was away

BlackNeo:
I enjoy the discussion on the thread. Let everybody be free to share their views and exchange ideas. To keep the thread alive even when I've not posted anything. Thank you, your opinions are all great

Why the sudden change? The answer is obvious from my previous posts. Think!

Joblessness is very bad and can lead to depression, you have made your point. The best thing is to move and stop sounding like a broken record.

People who have a life and knows theur boundaries will not overstay their welcome.

It appears some of the people who pretend to carry the red pill on their heads like gala, have insecurities, low self esteem, lack of financial resources, lack of emotional intelligence, lack of social skills etc as their major problem. Hence they embraced red pills and are now emergency monks.

emmanuelewumi:
Joblessness is very bad and can lead to depression, you have made your point. The best thing is to move and stop sounding like a broken record.

People who have a life and knows theur boundaries will not overstay their welcome.

It appears some of the people who pretend to carry the red pill on their heads like gala, have insecurities, low self esteem, lack of financial resources, lack of emotional intelligence, lack of social skills etc as their major problem. Enhance they embraced red pills and and are now emergency monks.

Lol. I am enjoying your emotional preachment. If you don't have anything to do at the moment than to take medication over my illness, release more sermons. It feels so good to see someone so worried and concerned about me when I don't give a śhit. I will ignore you from henceforth but please, when next you want to cry, hope you are man enough to mention me so I can laugh at you. lmao

Guys invest your time and money well, these are the two major resources we have.

Time is money.

As you are gaming, make sure you are active in the offensive for wealth creation, financial stability and multiple streams of income. And be defensive by safe guarding what you have accumulated, by using our head, being a rational and confident man.

And not a simp or an emotional man

emmanuelewumi:
Joblessness is very bad and can lead to depression, you have made your point. The best thing is to move and stop sounding like a broken record.

People who have a life and knows theur boundaries will not overstay their welcome.

It appears some of the people who pretend to carry the red pill on their heads like gala, have insecurities, low self esteem, lack of financial resources, lack of emotional intelligence, lack of social skills etc as their major problem. Hence they embraced red pills and are now emergency monks.

God bless you for this piece bro

You know we just have to accept things the way they seems to be sometimes. Nobody knows it all, nobody is an highland of knowledge. That guy kept repeating it over and over again that he would close the thread if anyone derail it, but some people like Martinez and Scepticus won't adhere to it.

I know you guys have a better understanding of what he's trying to bring out, but nobody is perfect we all make mistakes, why don't you leave the contradictions and let him finish what he started for chrissake. Look at ilegend, I will continue to respect that guy, despite the op called him out, he came and made his point and left with no further post, why can't you guys just do the same instead of being all over his thread.

I don't know if your eyes were blind at where he stated pick whatever is good for you and disperse the rest. He isn't GOD, he doesn't knows it all neither do you, we are all trying.

Now he's gone, you can masturbate on it as long as you want to

Hdanny:

God bless you for this piece bro

You know we just have to accept things the way they seems to be sometimes. Nobody knows it all, nobody is an highland of knowledge. That guy kept repeating it over and over again that he would close the thread if anyone derail it, but some people like Martinez and Scepticus won't adhere to it.

I know you guys have a better understanding of what he's trying to bring out, but nobody is perfect we all make mistakes, why don't you leave the contradictions and let him finish what he started for chrissake. Look at ilegend, I will continue to respect that guy, despite the op called him out, he came and made his point and left with no further post, why can't you guys just do the same instead of being all over his thread.

I don't know if your eyes were blind at where he stated pick whatever is good for you and disperse the rest. He isn't GOD, he doesn't knows it all neither do you, we are all trying.

Now he's gone, you can masturbate on it as long as you want to

Exactly. Op isn't perfect, no one is including u Martinez. @ Martinez39s I admire some of ur works/threads here on nairaland but I think sometimes u should relax and let ppl be and respect& ignore their threads irrespective of what they say or how they sound. They don't need to experience what u and Ubunja have gone through, we all aren't built the same and we react to things differently. You could have simply let him be... That's maturity..

Joker09:
Exactly. Op isn't perfect, no one is including u Martinez. @ Martinez39s I admire some of ur works on here but I think sometime u should relax and let ppl be and respect or ignore their threads irrespective of what they say or how they sound. That's real maturity tbh.

I don't have strength to argue. Anyone is free to think what they want. I never claimed to be perfect or have all the answers. How could I do that? As I have said, nothing was stopping the OP except he wanted to stop himself. No one was derailing him or contesting his ideas. You just saw me give you a post of blackneo where he encouraged our discussions and exchange of ideas, yet you still insists that we never gave him space? The only thing he clearly didn't encourage was people coming to debate him on redpill/MGTOW, but he encouraged our discussions. What changed? Read my earlier posts to understand.

To get the full picture of all that's was going on, you need to follow this thread post by post from beginning to end with keen attention. It's funny how you people let things fly over your heads and make baseless accusations in a hurry. For the umpteenth time, no one stopped, derailed, or sabotaged the OP. He knew what he was doing and had planned the termination of his thread from the start when he sensed keen critics. He just needed to blame our discussions (which he had supported).

One even said I should have ignored his contradiction and let him finish. Lol. Listening to and trying to get help without asking questions from someone who is clearly contradicting himself is all shades of stupidity and self deceit. How you know a mature man is his ability to ignore unwanted things/people and remain focus on his mission without giving giving excuses or throwing tantrums. When your blackneo is truly ready to help, he will come back and release his contents all at once or on a topic-by-topic basis like ubunja so no one can "derail."

Peace.

Martinez39s:
NB: The OP had already deactivated before this post was made. From henceforth all his posts that I will bring out to buttress my point will have his name as a link to his unnamed posts.

I did not derail his thread. Go through this thread again. Nothing stopped him from continuing and helping. He stopped because he wanted to.

When this thread started, I thought he was looking for guidance on the next step after the redpil which he insisted was game. I had tried to lend a helping hand and recommend gamers to him (Ubuñja, ilegeñdd, harddòn) but he made his intentions clear and I backed off. When people mentioned me on this thread afterwards, I took most of the discussions to my meme thread except those for educational purposes. Other posts from me and others were never made to derail or sabotage the OP. Remember that the OP took a very long time to update his message, and between the long delays, innocent discussions were going on. Despite the discussions, OP's posts were still being actively followed. Nothing was derailing or sabotaging the OP except he wanted to stop himself. Don't blame me. In fact, what about the many posts of others? Did I not tell Skepticus to avoid judging the OP until he gets to the end of his messages? Did I ever bring hatred, opposing, or sabotage while the OP was releasing his content? NO!

If you are seeing things from my angle, you will know that the OP had ulterior motives. I knew this at a point in the beginning but I kept to myself so as not seem like a hater. He is not the first of his kind that I have encountered. The smart dude was simply trying to play on the beta's earnest hope of easy puśsy, and gather followers (majority of men are betas) that he would later turn around and milk for money. He was using big promises and fake confidence (which came off as bad attitude and arrogance) to bait betas. The fake confidence was to show that he knew what he was doing. He was lifting good redpill contents that he read but didn't really understand hence he contradicted himself and made errors. Here are the big promises (with high confidence).


Notice how he flared up when he read I and skepticus's discussions where we made our intentions of keenly following, scrutinizing and criticising him known. He knew, just like I did, that he had no results to offer and his ulterior motives wouldn't be easily achieved with people like us on watch. He started throwing the beta label and he got into an unnecessary and childish fight with ilegendd (customer struggle?). When his beta label didn't work (I had told someone that we told care about the label), he tried another strategy: trying to mobilise the desperate followers he thought he had to chase us off by threatening these followers that he would close his thread. He aim was that he supposed followers, on the sad brink of losing their precious promised free and easy pùssy, will group and attack us and his critics, neutral observers, and haters.

When that didn't work, he knew he had to quit as a smart scam artiste because no one was falling for his big promises and pious hopes as he wanted. He was even stalling with no end in sight and repeating redpill facts we already knew. He knew he was done for if he proceeded and didn't grind out results as promised. Before incorrectly differentiating between PUA and game, he said that one more comment from a "beta" would make him close his thread. There was no comment but he closed his thread regardless. Am I lying? If I do a break down on this guy, you will see a lot of things about him flew over many people's head.

Notice his desperation for an echo chamber and how easily he is distressed by criticism, opposing and diverse ideas, and scrutiny. Isn't this redolent of cult leaders and scam artistes? He could have continued his message, ignored, and achieved his aim and results if they were genuine but he just couldn't stop shouting "haters, betas, redpill/MGTOW expert stay off" and trying to beta shame people into leaving his thread. I have more to say but I will stop here. We must all learn to see bùllshit. PUA SCAM IS A LUCRATIVE BUSINESS.

Finally, get it into your head that he didn't want to help. He gave up too easily for someone that wanted to help. He had ulterior motives Is this someone that really wants to help? Don't kid yourself

I understand your angle in this and I'm sure you don't want guys to be victims of scam. Thank you for that if that was your intention. Although blackneo insisted that he was to do everything for free, he attacked ilegendd which was so rude and uncalled for. Ilegendd responded once but at the end he advertised his books, is that legit?. My question is that do u think blackneo is trying to do the same by selling his books or how can a scam be perpetrated on here when all we do is trying to learn? Enlighten us about this PUA scam. Thank you.

Martinez39s:
This will be my last post here, I don't have strength to argue. Anyone is free to think what they want. I never claimed to be perfect or have all the answers. How could I do that? As I have said, nothing was stopping the OP except he wanted to stop himself. No one was derailing him or contesting his ideas. You just saw me give you a post of blackneo where he encouraged our discussions and exchange of ideas, yet you still insists that we never gave him space? The only thing he clearly didn't encourage was people coming to debate him on redpill/MGTOW, but he encouraged our discussions. What changed? Read my earlier posts to understand.

To get the full picture of all that's was going on, you need to follow this thread post by post from beginning to end with keen attention. It's funny how you people let things fly over your heads and make baseless accusations in a hurry. For the umpteenth time, no one stopped, derailed, or sabotaged the OP. He knew what he was doing and had planned the termination of his thread from the start when he sensed keen critics. He just needed to blame our discussions (which he had supported).

One even said I should have ignored his contradiction and let him finish. Lol. Listening to and trying to get help without asking questions from someone who is clearly contradicting himself is all shades of stupidity and self deceit. How you know a mature man is his ability to ignore unwanted things/people and remain focus on his mission without giving giving excuses or throwing tantrums. When your blackneo is truly ready to help, he come back and release his contents all at once or on a topic-by-topic basis like ubunja so no one can "derail."

Peace.

Wait Martinez. I understand you but do you actually agree to some of the things he said or u were just playing along? They sound pretty solid to me tho. I could see that you agreed to a lot of things he said. We are adults and I'm not trying to troll u, I just need to get some facts right.