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Re: Presidency: Edwin Clark Says Tinubu Should Allow South East To Take Its Turn by Heffalump(m): 9:24pm On Jul 31, 2020
RichBoy247:


You go cry tire

Keep dreaming.

When you wake up, you'll be shock like Buhari
Re: Presidency: Edwin Clark Says Tinubu Should Allow South East To Take Its Turn by loopman: 9:24pm On Jul 31, 2020
Mo3891:



I have been praying to God for PDP to be stupid enough to field one of them as flag bearer (which they won't anyways) let us beat them blue black in an election , let them know what Nigerians think of their candidacy

This fear of certain defeat is why they are insisting that APC (Islamic and Ewedu people party ) should cede the ticket to them even when they are not bold enough to demand same from PDP.

The fear is going into a contest with yorubas and understandably so, they have zero political capital with the rest of Nigerians

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Re: Presidency: Edwin Clark Says Tinubu Should Allow South East To Take Its Turn by Ojiofor: 9:24pm On Jul 31, 2020
Sammy07:


Okay grin

2011, was not the turn of south why did a southern campaiged and got elected?
After 8yrs of south?

Presidency is rotation between North and South. In both Apc and PDP.
Apc it's the turn of south
PDP it's the turn of north.

You've never heard NW and NC wailing grin

It does not work that way.
You should know Igbo nation are not NE and NC we have no masters in Nigeria.
Ndi Igbo are one of the 3 founding regions of Nigeria as emphasized by elder Clarke.
Yoruba candidate is free to try but Nigerians knows it is the turn of SE.

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Re: Presidency: Edwin Clark Says Tinubu Should Allow South East To Take Its Turn by Alajiki(m): 9:26pm On Jul 31, 2020
SolaRaphael:
If only the Southerners (SE, SS and SW) can unite.


How good that will be!




I can tell you that the SW and SS are good to go on that, but the SE? They are politically naive. They can't even see sense in what you have just advised.

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Re: Presidency: Edwin Clark Says Tinubu Should Allow South East To Take Its Turn by LegendHero(m): 9:26pm On Jul 31, 2020
Hellraiser77:
Your permutations are Flawed, Both parties fielding an Igbo candidate doesn't mean only Igbos will vote, If APC and PDP fields an Igbo candidate Northern and western voters will likely swing towards APC, even though Igbo votes will be divided but APC will still win.....About Igbos voting against ojukwu, Ojukwu had no chances cos it was clear he stood little chance given the climate when he contested.....Igbos are very unlikely to vote against an Igbo candidate in a major party in this current political climate

No matter how you spin it, an Igbo candidate in APC will fail.

Understand the election trend in Nigeria. The SS and SE most times always vote the same way to an extent and that is a blessing and a curse at the same time.

Let’s do a simple analogy. Let’s say APC field Okorocha and PDP fields Peter Obi in an election.

For the SW: the vote will be divided because the Yorubas usually vote 55/45 when the candidate is not a Yoruba. Check all elections where the leading candidates are outsiders to understand what I mean. I score Okorocha 55% here.

For the SS: I can bet it that Peter Obi will win at least 70% of their votes and Okorocha will only muster maximum 30%.

For the SE: Peter Obi will win with at least 85-90% of the votes.

For the NC: It will almost be 50/50% for both candidates.

For the NW & NE: The vice presidential candidate will be the determinant. There will be voter apathy and even if APC will win it won’t be over 60%. The North will be somehow indifferent and especially with how Igbos constantly burn bridges with their unguarded utterances. let’s say Okorocha win 60%.

Now do the Maths yourself to see that APC will dig their own grave if they present an Igbo president against an Igbo presidential candidate in PDP.

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Re: Presidency: Edwin Clark Says Tinubu Should Allow South East To Take Its Turn by dalass(f): 9:27pm On Jul 31, 2020
AlabiJ:


Why are you igbos like this?? Must you lie about everything? How could Awo who was serving time in prison have killed Akintola?? Akintola was killed by an igboman named Captain Emmanuel Nwobosi. Google it. He's still alive today sef. Igbos can lie pass devil. Smh.

Imagine.... History is quite easy to research these days but they'd rather be lazy and allow filthy liars to feed them the lies they need to continue in their hatred....

Its tiring to see a whole blind people being led the a blind person while they follow like zombies!

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Re: Presidency: Edwin Clark Says Tinubu Should Allow South East To Take Its Turn by RichBoy247: 9:28pm On Jul 31, 2020
martineverest:
to be frank,an eastern Nigerian can't win election...their attitude towards other tribes will haunt them

You cannot abuse my father and my mother and then expect a hug from me except you want to hug electric transformer

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Re: Presidency: Edwin Clark Says Tinubu Should Allow South East To Take Its Turn by MrColdsweat: 9:29pm On Jul 31, 2020
AlabiJ:


Why are you igbos like this?? Must you lie about everything? How could Awo who was serving time in prison have killed Akintola?? Akintola was killed by an igboman named Captain Emmanuel Nwobosi. Google it. He's still alive today sef. Igbos can lie pass devil. Smh.

We're getting somewhere.

Because an igboman killed akintola, is it reasonable to generalize that the whole igbos conspired and killed akintola?

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Re: Presidency: Edwin Clark Says Tinubu Should Allow South East To Take Its Turn by Blackking98(m): 9:29pm On Jul 31, 2020
This is the position of we from the SS.

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Re: Presidency: Edwin Clark Says Tinubu Should Allow South East To Take Its Turn by Danwakae(m): 9:30pm On Jul 31, 2020
LegendHero:
Sir Edwin Clark, the SE already said they are voting enmasse for a Northerner in PDP by 2023.

Please don’t cry more than the bereaved sir and leave Asiwaju out of this.


Without a united South, any core northerner will defeat a southerner ...2023 will teach the southerners to be united , they are the voice against out criminal northern leaders...and on the part of the divided south, I will also stand with me region Northeast , to produce the president in 2023 , Northwest have been the ones ruling for the north ...

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Re: Presidency: Edwin Clark Says Tinubu Should Allow South East To Take Its Turn by AlabiJ: 9:31pm On Jul 31, 2020
MrColdsweat:


We're getting somewhere.

Because an igboman killed akintola, is it reasonable to generalize that the whole igbos conspired and killed akintola?

Gerraway you child of perdition. Are you not the one that said Awo killed Akintola? Why are you people like this??

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Re: Presidency: Edwin Clark Says Tinubu Should Allow South East To Take Its Turn by loopman: 9:32pm On Jul 31, 2020
AlabiJ:


Gerraway you child of perdition. Are you not the one that said Awo killed Akintola? Why are you people like this??

Why are you wasting your time with that thing? It will keep distracting you with it nonsense

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Re: Presidency: Edwin Clark Says Tinubu Should Allow South East To Take Its Turn by WeRblessed(f): 9:37pm On Jul 31, 2020
Even the igbos will not vote for igbo presidency because that is not what they want. They want biafra.

That the igbo politicians that made up only 0.04% of igbo population are seeking for the Nigerian cursed presidency doesn't mean that the remaining igbo majority will support them. All these old monkey-looking Nigerian useless politicians always bullshiting themselves with igbos on their lips. Ndi ara ndi ara!

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Re: Presidency: Edwin Clark Says Tinubu Should Allow South East To Take Its Turn by Noel19: 9:38pm On Jul 31, 2020
Sammy07:
Edwin Clark, Tell SE to come and beg tinubu grin

Have this at the back of your big head; The Igbo man doesn’t kneel down for anybody except his chi.
Re: Presidency: Edwin Clark Says Tinubu Should Allow South East To Take Its Turn by bjnice(m): 9:38pm On Jul 31, 2020
My submission is it will amount to waste of energy debating with an Igbo person on this forum. Even when you present simple logic responds to a debate they still can't get it, rather they will play to the gallery.
It is a simple political mathematics democracy deals with numbers. Since they lack the numbers it is sensible to build alliances, create conducive atmosphere for dialogue with those who have the numbers, build trust links. It is not a rocket science Nigerians both north and south will be your advocate. Not insulting us that have the numbers and still expect us to give you power for where? You can continue with your blackmailing just as you guys did last year against Speaker Gbaja just to prevent him from becoming Speaker.

We are here expecting your usual chest-beating comment even when your political leaders have agreed it will take a miracle for igbo person to become Nigeria President.

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Re: Presidency: Edwin Clark Says Tinubu Should Allow South East To Take Its Turn by emperor863(m): 9:39pm On Jul 31, 2020
Ezeama400:


Igbos are not scared to contest against anyone.. What's is good for Adamma is also good for Funke. The two major political parties should zone their tickets to Igbo land like it was done to yorubas in 1999..


This link I sent below has contradicted your opinion about Igbos interest in 2023..

Igbos in Apc are warning up as well


https://www.google.com/search?q=South+East+president+2023..+PDP+nairaland&oq=South+East+president+2023..+PDP+nairaland&aqs=chrome..69i57.23400j0j4&client=ms-android-transsion-tecno-rev1&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8

I can tell you with all confidence that Igbo person would not get APC ticket. Igbo race has consistently displayed acute hatred for the party and it is certain that Igbo would not give the party a significant vote percentage as usual.

No serous minded political party would deliberately lose an election because they want to please certain ethnic group that has not invested meaningfully into their party.

What I see on the horizon is not what you see.

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Re: Presidency: Edwin Clark Says Tinubu Should Allow South East To Take Its Turn by Sammy07: 9:40pm On Jul 31, 2020
Noel19:


Have this at the back of your big head; The Igbo man doesn’t kneel down for anybody except his chi.

Were they lying flat when begging the north? grin

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Re: Presidency: Edwin Clark Says Tinubu Should Allow South East To Take Its Turn by Sammy07: 9:43pm On Jul 31, 2020
MrColdsweat:

Awolowo killed akintola.

Let's cure your madness.

Lol, Awolowo was in prison sir.
Why lying?

Akintola was killed by Igbos.

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Re: Presidency: Edwin Clark Says Tinubu Should Allow South East To Take Its Turn by Nobody: 9:43pm On Jul 31, 2020
Ezeama400:


Igbos are not scared to contest against anyone.. What's is good for Adamma is also good for Funke. The two major political parties should zone their tickets to Igbo land like it was done to yorubas in 1999..


This link I sent below has contradicted your opinion about Igbos interest in 2023..

Igbos in Apc are warning up as well


https://www.google.com/search?q=South+East+president+2023..+PDP+nairaland&oq=South+East+president+2023..+PDP+nairaland&aqs=chrome..69i57.23400j0j4&client=ms-android-transsion-tecno-rev1&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8
Igbo can go and align with Atiku or any other northerners.
1999 is not 2023 also Alex ekueme contested against Obasanjo during 1999 election.
You don't have any point

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Re: Presidency: Edwin Clark Says Tinubu Should Allow South East To Take Its Turn by Hellraiser77: 9:43pm On Jul 31, 2020
LegendHero:


No matter how you spin it, an Igbo candidate in APC will fail.

Understand the election trend in Nigeria. The SS and SE most times always vote the same way to an extent and that is a blessing and a curse at the same time.

Let’s do a simple analogy. Let’s say APC field Okorocha and PDP fields Peter Obi in an election.

For the SW: the vote will be divided because the Yorubas usually vote 55/45 when the candidate is not a Yoruba. Check all elections where the leading candidates are outsiders to understand what I mean. I score Okorocha 55% here.

For the SS: I can bet it that Peter Obi will win at least 70% of their votes and Okorocha will only muster maximum 30%.

For the SE: Peter Obi will win with at least 85-90% of the votes.

For the NC: It will almost be 50/50% for both candidates.

For the NW & NE: The vice presidential candidate will be the determinant. There will be voter apathy and even if APC will win it won’t be over 60%. The North will be somehow indifferent and let’s say Okorocha win 60%.

Now do the Maths yourself to see that APC will dig their own coffin if they present an Igbo president against an Igbo presidential candidate in PDP.
Again your figures are wrong, Northern votes will never be 50/50 in such a case where both parties field an Igbo candidate, The North majority will go APC(I don't want to throw numbers and percentages around)

The southwest majority will go APC too seeing it's the party they have the most stakes in (of course there won't be an avenue to spite Igbos as both candidates are igbo).....I don't see SW voting with indifference in this case.

The south south on the other hand is likely to swing majorly PDP(again no one can be sure about numbers).

The southeast vote will on the other hand be a clear reflection of the acceptance of the respective candidates at home (this is why I don't like the idea of Kanu, he has dirt just like Tinubu)

The choice of Vice President for the both parties will also play a minute role.

APC will win if they take their time to choose the right Igbo candidate

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Re: Presidency: Edwin Clark Says Tinubu Should Allow South East To Take Its Turn by AnanseK(m): 9:45pm On Jul 31, 2020
When is Edwin Clark going to talk about NDDC and the development of his region.

How many of those billion Naira contracts were given (doled) to him?

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Re: Presidency: Edwin Clark Says Tinubu Should Allow South East To Take Its Turn by RTSC: 9:46pm On Jul 31, 2020
The only southern candidate we know in 2023 is from the South east.
That is what southern Nigeria will vote for.
Any other southern candidate from any other ethnic group is on his own.
Re: Presidency: Edwin Clark Says Tinubu Should Allow South East To Take Its Turn by RTSC: 9:48pm On Jul 31, 2020
Any other southern ethnic group can try in 2023.
But know that the South is not with you.
Re: Presidency: Edwin Clark Says Tinubu Should Allow South East To Take Its Turn by Ategberoson(m): 9:49pm On Jul 31, 2020
Ezeama400:
Tinubu is not a threat to anyone...

If Awolowo who was a Christian and loved by all yorubas could not get it despite his two attempts, is it Tinubu whom some of his people are cursing on the street will actualize such dream ?


Again,It's easier for a camel to pass through the eye of niddle than for a Muslim southerner to rule this country under this structure, the same is applicable to northern christians.. They are politically disadvantaged, it's a very sad reality we must swallow.
As for Abiola's case concerning issue of religion, Nigerians were so desperate for democracy to the extent that they were ready to accept anyone as long as democracy will be praticed. Nigerians didn't care about religion unlike what is obtainable today where average Nigerian on the street is so concious of his faith due to religious crisis that has happened in the past and the present as well..



how will all this gibberish elect Igbo president in 2023?



strategize to enjoy the benefit of being a Nigerian and you're writing history? you think history writing, propaganda, blackmailing and hate still coordinate electioneering in Nigeria?


time of NCNC had passed, Igbo should wake up and contest for the presidency, this is not Eze title

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Re: Presidency: Edwin Clark Says Tinubu Should Allow South East To Take Its Turn by MrColdsweat: 9:51pm On Jul 31, 2020
Sammy07:


Lol, Awolowo was in prison sir.
Why lying?

Akintola was killed by Igbos.

If awolowo was guilty of treason, why is it impossible for him to sponsor the coup from prison?

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Re: Presidency: Edwin Clark Says Tinubu Should Allow South East To Take Its Turn by MacDD: 9:52pm On Jul 31, 2020
Yebosola:
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Not every common sense is common, they will cry blood, day never break, it remain small ,when that idiot was shouting Biafra or death, they were urging him on, now is presidency or death, mofos.
Why re u afraid of Biafra
Re: Presidency: Edwin Clark Says Tinubu Should Allow South East To Take Its Turn by Nyamuriflathead: 9:52pm On Jul 31, 2020
MrColdsweat:
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Yarribas and half truths...

APC is a merger of AC, CPC and ANPP which was led by ogbonnaya onu.

Rochas directed APGA to work with APC. Apga gave its votes to APC....

Igbos have a stake in APC.

Someone needs to refreshen the memory of this child of hate and perdition cum ipob terrorist sympathizer. Igbos do not have a stake in APC because it is a fulani/yoruba ewedu muslim terrorist party.. Maybe you think we all have short memories,, Your derogatory remarks about the party are all there for all to see and we will exhume them when the time is right. we can still remember you all labelled the few igbos in APC bastards and fulani slaves.. we can still remember how you all heaved insults on the nollywood actor kenneth okonkwo when he asked you lots to join APC

The Most hated politicians alive in the SE today are Rochas, OUK and ihedioha yet you want APC to cede its ticket to a bunch of hateful people. You Deserve To Die Really

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Re: Presidency: Edwin Clark Says Tinubu Should Allow South East To Take Its Turn by Sammy07: 9:55pm On Jul 31, 2020
MrColdsweat:


If awolowo was guilty of treason, why is it impossible for him to sponsor the coup from prison?

He wasn't guilty, they conspired against him.
Akintola, fani Kayode, two from the north, I think Ahmadu bello and one other and 2 from east.
Re: Presidency: Edwin Clark Says Tinubu Should Allow South East To Take Its Turn by MacDD: 9:55pm On Jul 31, 2020
martineverest:
to be frank,an eastern Nigerian can't win election...their attitude towards other tribes will haunt them
shut up. Who re u
Re: Presidency: Edwin Clark Says Tinubu Should Allow South East To Take Its Turn by emperor863(m): 9:56pm On Jul 31, 2020
SolaRaphael:
If only the Southerners (SE, SS and SW) can unite.


How good that will be!


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That unity you craved for was destroyed in 1959 when Azikiwe rejected that call from Awolowo to be the prime minister (in an AG/NCNC alliance, despite AG comming second and NCNC coming third) and accepted to be a ceremonial president in an NPC/NCNC alliance.

If there will be unity, it would be between the south west and the south south. This is already taking shape - if you can understand political moves.

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