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Re: The NBA Begins by Roland17(m): 4:22am On Aug 22, 2020
You have to feel gutted for L. Doncic.. His first NBA post season and he suffers an ankle injury..

This life no balance at all!
Re: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 4:26am On Aug 22, 2020
steady986:

What do you mean yet again? Who was better in game one. Una some times ehn
By what margin? Did they win? Is it by padding assists and rebounds? If AD didn't play well in Game 2 would they have won?
Re: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 4:29am On Aug 22, 2020
Just didn't look right all game. A triple double performance but if you watched the game you would know he didn't have a good game at all
Re: The NBA Begins by chic2pimp(m): 4:39am On Aug 22, 2020
Smh @ Paul George

Btw the book needs to be thrown at Harell If He indeed did use those words. There is no place for that kind of thuggish behaviour in the NBA.
Re: The NBA Begins by chic2pimp(m): 5:19am On Aug 22, 2020
Tobias Harris has 43 points on 49 shots this series. This is truly Pathetic. The Less said about Al Hofraud the better. That organisation is heading nowhere as far as I am concerned. Jojo better be plotting an escape route If He wants to win a Chip.

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Re: The NBA Begins by steady986(m): 6:22am On Aug 22, 2020
A40:
Just didn't look right all game. A triple double performance but if you watched the game you would know he didn't have a good game at all
You saw what you wanted to see. Na you get your eye.
Re: The NBA Begins by etidy: 6:56am On Aug 22, 2020
Mehn PG stinks atm, I think it's mental
Roland17:
@A40 and etidy

Una remember this debate about PG13?
Re: The NBA Begins by mattfeuter(m): 8:44am On Aug 22, 2020
chic2pimp:
Tobias Harris has 43 points on 49 shots this series. This is truly Pathetic. The Less said about Al Hofraud the better. That organisation is heading nowhere as far as I am concerned. Jojo better be plotting an escape route If He wants to win a Chip.

As someone mentioned earlier here,

Nothing worse than paying a Non max player, Max money. grin grin
Re: The NBA Begins by steady986(m): 11:46am On Aug 22, 2020
If I'm the Warriors I'm picking a big man in the forthcoming draft. One that can shoot the three. No need going for Giannis.
Re: The NBA Begins by benji93: 12:22pm On Aug 22, 2020
Everybody obsessed with shooting threes. What we need is someoen who's decent from the midrange. When you have two incredible shooters i don't know why you need your big man to shoot threes. You especially need the midrange/post shots when those threes are not falling. Na fear you dey fear ni dissuading the Golden state from getting Giannis. cheesy. But yet Giannis is not quite good from the midrange so perhaps getting him may not be a good idea.
steady986:
If I'm the Warriors I'm picking a big man in the forthcoming draft. One that can shoot the three. No need going for Giannis.
Re: The NBA Begins by steady986(m): 2:25pm On Aug 22, 2020
benji93:
Everybody obsessed with shooting threes. What we need is someoen who's decent from the midrange. When you have two incredible shooters i don't know why you need your big man to shoot threes. You especially need the midrange/post shots when those threes are not falling. Na fear you dey fear ni dissuading the Golden state from getting Giannis. cheesy. But yet Giannis is not quite good from the midrange so perhaps getting him may not be a good idea.
By extension, one who shoots threes should be capable of shooting mindranges smiley
And a big man who's capable of shooting threes is an added advantage. AD, Embiid, Towns, Porzingis...these guys can dominate in the paint and still be handy beyond the arc
Re: The NBA Begins by benji93: 3:00pm On Aug 22, 2020
Valid statement. You don't need your big man to shoot threes if you have the greatest(arguably) shooting back court in NBA history. Go to the post and do your work. That's primarily the Job of a center. You've got no business going out all the way to the three point arc. In my book that's for centers who've got no guts. Besides you may be very poor from the 3 point arc, but if you practise and try to master your midrange shots you could be shooting above 40%. Hakeem was 20% from threes, that's partly because he seldom shoots it, which means he doesn't quite practise those kind of shots, but he's as good as anybody else from beyond the perimeter. He was lethal from the midrange. If you are shooting less than 35% from threes- it doesn't matter who you are-you better go and work on your midrange. Apart from Kristaps and KAT that are shooting quite efficiently from 3, the others are shooting below 32%. Why not do your business within 13 ft of the basket? in which case you arel ikely to be more efficient. My point is shooting 3s when you are quite inefficient from the arc is a waste of time. Get closer to basket, where you can be more efficient.
steady986:

By extension, one who shoots threes should be capable of shooting mindranges smiley
And a big man who's capable of shooting threes is an added advantage. AD, Embiid, Towns, Porzingis...these guys can dominate in the paint and still be handy beyond the arc

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Re: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 4:00pm On Aug 22, 2020
Roland17:
@A40 and etidy

Una remember this debate about PG13?
Well I was willing to give him the benefit of doubt but he's 30 at some point I guess you just have to believe these people when they show you who they are. We'll see I guess.

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Re: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 4:03pm On Aug 22, 2020
chic2pimp:
Tobias Harris has 43 points on 49 shots this series. This is truly Pathetic. The Less said about Al Hofraud the better. That organisation is heading nowhere as far as I am concerned. Jojo better be plotting an escape route If He wants to win a Chip.
Lool and he had like 20 rebounds last night or something like that. Just spamming rebounds.

That's why the hardest thing in playoff basketball is scoring, especially when you're the primary focus of the offense every given night. Anybody can rebound, passing also is you putting the game in someone else's hands. Scoring is far and away the hardest thing to do come playoff time

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Re: The NBA Begins by steady986(m): 4:18pm On Aug 22, 2020
benji93:
Valid statement. You don't need your big man to shoot threes if you have the greatest(arguably) shooting back court in NBA history. Go to the post and do your work. That's primarily the Job of a center. You've got no business going out all the way to the three point arc. In my book that's for centers who've got no guts. Besides you may be very poor from the 3 point arc, but if you practise and try to master your midrange shots you could be shooting above 40%. Hakeem was 20% from threes, that's partly because he seldom shoots it, which means he doesn't quite practise those kind of shots, but he's as good as anybody else from beyond the perimeter. He was lethal from the midrange. If you are shooting less than 35% from threes- it doesn't matter who you are-you better go and work on your midrange. Apart from Kristaps and KAT that are shooting quite efficiently from 3, the others are shooting below 32%. Why not do your business within 13 ft of the basket? in which case you arel ikely to be more efficient. My point is shooting 3s when you are quite inefficient from the arc is a waste of time. Get closer to basket, where you can be more efficient.
The way the game is going, big men who can't shoot threes won't be able to get jobs in the near future. We're not saying they should know how to shoot so they can dwell beyond the arc, it's just a very handy tool. Having big men who when they move out of the two point zone can drag the opposing big man with him is very valuable. Imagine Javale for instance. If he goes to the three point line the opposing big man can decide not to follow him because he knows he won't dare to shoot from there.

And we're not saying they must be lethal, just be able to shoot. A big man who shoots 30% from beyond the arc is dangerous. That alone is enough to take your guarder wherever you're going, especially when your team needs to spread the floor. And if he can handle the ball and drive to the basket, then he'll be even scarier. Because once you pump fake a big man at the perimeter and he falls for it, he's gone for good. You have about a 2-second headstart to drive to the basket.
Re: The NBA Begins by Nobody: 4:25pm On Aug 22, 2020
steady986:

The way the game is going, big men who can't shoot threes won't be able to get jobs in the near future. We're not saying they should know how to shoot so they can dwell beyond the arc, it's just a very handy tool. Having big men who when they move out of the two point zone can drag the opposing big man with him is very valuable. Imagine Javale for instance. If he goes to the three point line the opposing big man can decide not to follow him because he knows he won't dare to shoot from there.

And we're not saying they must be lethal, just be able to shoot. A big man who shoots 30% from beyond the arc is dangerous. That alone is enough to take your guarder wherever you're going, especially when your team needs to spread the floor. And if he can handle the ball and drive to the basket, then he'll be even scarier. Because once you pump fake a big man at the perimeter and he falls for it, he's gone for good. You have about 2 seconds headstart to drive to the basket.
Big men are primarily defenders though. Even if they're expected to contribute on the opposite end. So what's the fuss with threes? I'll rather score 10 twos than make 3 threes from probably more than ten attempts.

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Re: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 4:38pm On Aug 22, 2020
https://africa.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/29715159/paul-george-downplays-critiques-amid-shooting-slump-no-james-harden

What a mental midget. What kind of lack of self awareness do you possess that you can't see you're being carried by your younger teammate in the middle of your basketball prime. Why bring Harden into your nonsense? Sawft

The irony is his defense has always been low-key overrated and I agree that he's no James Harden. He's not anywhere as good
Re: The NBA Begins by Roland17(m): 5:22pm On Aug 22, 2020
A40:
https://africa.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/29715159/paul-george-downplays-critiques-amid-shooting-slump-no-james-harden

What a mental midget. What kind of lack of self awareness do you possess that you can't see you're being carried by your younger teammate in the middle of your basketball prime. Why bring Harden into your nonsense? Sawft

The irony is his defense has always been low-key overrated and I agree that he's no James Harden. He's not anywhere as good

He enjoys the notoriety and fame that comes with being a star player especially when he is playing well but does not want the critique and accountability that comes with it when he is stinking up the joint!
Re: The NBA Begins by A40(m): 6:33pm On Aug 22, 2020
Roland17:


He enjoys the notoriety and fame that comes with being a star player especially when he is playing well but does not want the critique and accountability that comes with it when he is stinking up the joint!
Na foolish talk. What concerns Harden with anything. I hope he claps back
Re: The NBA Begins by benji93: 6:40pm On Aug 22, 2020
Why the heck should he move out beyond the arc? Running beyond the arc and hoping your opponent follows you out is like running away from your primary job. As a perimeter defender, if you choose not to post me up but instead recede to the 3 point arc, i would be glad you did it, as i know you are taking away shots from better shooters. I can live with a 30% 3 point shooter running out to the three point arc. Such relief. I don't understand the obsession with the 3 pointers. If i was defending a big man like KAT or Porzingis, in that case i may have no choice than to follow him to the three point line. But for AD, heck no. Good riddance.
If you get a big man that can shoot 3s above 35% cool. But you don't go into free agency or into a draft looking for one. It's unnecessary.
Moreso, it's even more unnecessary if you have a great shooting backcourt in Stephen Curry and Klay Thompson.
In the case of GSW, the
steady986:

The way the game is going, big men who can't shoot threes won't be able to get jobs in the near future. We're not saying they should know how to shoot so they can dwell beyond the arc, it's just a very handy tool. Having big men who when they move out of the two point zone can drag the opposing big man with him is very valuable. Imagine Javale for instance. If he goes to the three point line the opposing big man can decide not to follow him because he knows he won't dare to shoot from there.

And we're not saying they must be lethal, just be able to shoot. A big man who shoots 30% from beyond the arc is dangerous. That alone is enough to take your guarder wherever you're going, especially when your team needs to spread the floor. And if he can handle the ball and drive to the basket, then he'll be even scarier. Because once you pump fake a big man at the perimeter and he falls for it, he's gone for good. You have about a 2-second headstart to drive to the basket.

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Re: The NBA Begins by chic2pimp(m): 7:29pm On Aug 22, 2020
A40:
https://africa.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/29715159/paul-george-downplays-critiques-amid-shooting-slump-no-james-harden

What a mental midget. What kind of lack of self awareness do you possess that you can't see you're being carried by your younger teammate in the middle of your basketball prime. Why bring Harden into your nonsense? Sawft

The irony is his defense has always been low-key overrated and I agree that he's no James Harden. He's not anywhere as good

I stopped reading at the "Scoring is not what I do" part. I am 100% certain He'd look back at that interview and feel a bit embarassed. PG if you are by any chance on NL, Scoring IS indeed what you do best.
Re: The NBA Begins by chic2pimp(m): 7:32pm On Aug 22, 2020
mattfeuter:


As someone mentioned earlier here,

Nothing worse than paying a Non max player, Max money. grin grin

Whoever sanctioned that deal needs to be locked up for a while.
Re: The NBA Begins by steady986(m): 7:45pm On Aug 22, 2020
alexxiswrites:
Big men are primarily defenders though. Even if they're expected to contribute on the opposite end. So what's the fuss with threes? I'll rather score 10 twos than make 3 threes from probably more than ten attempts.
Big men are primarily defenders? This is my first time hearing this.
Re: The NBA Begins by SIRcumalot: 7:53pm On Aug 22, 2020
Since NBA teams prefer to give up Mid-range shots instead of layups and threes.
It would seem like going after mid range maestro like derozan or LMA would be the smart move. Probably hasn't happen for some reason.
Re: The NBA Begins by steady986(m): 7:56pm On Aug 22, 2020
benji93:
Why the heck should he move out beyond the arc? Running beyond the arc and hoping your opponent follows you out is like running away from your primary job. As a perimeter defender, if you choose not to post me up but instead recede to the 3 point arc, i would be glad you did it, as i know you are taking away shots from better shooters. I can live with a 30% 3 point shooter running out to the three point arc. Such relief. I don't understand the obsession with the 3 pointers. If i was defending a big man like KAT or Porzingis, in that case i may have no choice than to follow him to the three point line. But for AD, heck no. Good riddance.
If you get a big man that can shoot 3s above 35% cool. But you don't go into free agency or into a draft looking for one. It's unnecessary.
Moreso, it's even more unnecessary if you have a great shooting backcourt in Stephen Curry and Klay Thompson.
In the case of GSW, the
Lol. What you don't want to do is leave an average shooter wide open. If you do that his numbers go up to 35% or more.

Are you telling me that if GS are going for a big man and have to choose between AD and Gobert they'd choose Gobert. Both are stars in their role. Gobert owns the paint, AD can handle the ball and shoot from outside. Both are excellent defenders, all stars and DPOY nominees. You'd take Gobert?
Re: The NBA Begins by donlittle25: 8:01pm On Aug 22, 2020
steady986:

By extension, one who shoots threes should be capable of shooting mindranges smiley
And a big man who's capable of shooting threes is an added advantage. AD, Embiid, Towns, Porzingis...these guys can dominate in the paint and still be handy beyond the arc
you don meet DeMar before? That one na case study
Re: The NBA Begins by Roland17(m): 8:34pm On Aug 22, 2020
Giannis! Finally..A dominant performance worthy of his MVP status..He owned the Magic and was the best player today.
Re: The NBA Begins by benji93: 8:45pm On Aug 22, 2020
Are you kidding me right now? What kind of comparison is that. Gobert owns which paint? You comparing a 15 point per game center to 24 point per game center? Gobert is dominant? Defensively or Offensively?Until now our discussion had been mostly about offense-Mid-range shooting. How did defense come into this? You are reaching now man. Stay the course. Besides Gobert is not good from the midrange.
steady986:

Lol. What you don't want to do is leave an average shooter wide open. If you do that his numbers go up to 35% or more.

Are you telling me that if GS are going for a big man and have to choose between AD and Gobert they'd choose Gobert. Both are stars in their role. Gobert owns the paint, AD can handle the ball and shoot from outside. Both are excellent defenders, all stars and DPOY nominees. You'd take Gobert?

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Re: The NBA Begins by benji93: 9:01pm On Aug 22, 2020
This Miami team dey craze ooo. Dem dey rain the threes like tomorrow no dey. cheesy
Re: The NBA Begins by Nobody: 9:17pm On Aug 22, 2020
steady986:

Big men are primarily defenders? This is my first time hearing this.
Of course they are. It's even in recent times more emphasis is placed on what they can do offensively because basketball is becoming more of an all round sport with players taking on more roles.
Re: The NBA Begins by mattfeuter(m): 9:21pm On Aug 22, 2020
chic2pimp:


Whoever sanctioned that deal needs to be locked up for a while.

Lol

Lance Stephenson tried that shit and was shipped to Chynaaaa cheesy
Re: The NBA Begins by steady986(m): 11:05pm On Aug 22, 2020
benji93:
Are you kidding me right now? What kind of comparison is that. Gobert owns which paint? You comparing a 15 point per game center to 24 point per game center? Gobert is dominant? Defensively or Offensively?Until now our discussion had been mostly about offense-Mid-range shooting. How did defense come into this? You are reaching now man. Stay the course. Besides Gobert is not good from the midrange.
I mentioned defense just so you won't pick one over the other because one is clearly better in defense. It's the offensive styles I'm particular about. Gobert is dominant in the paint offensively, whether it's offensive rebounds or put-backs or dunks. The reason he doesn't score a lot of points is because he's not his team's primary focus on offense.

AD on the other hand is more midrange to 3 pointer, in addition to being dominant in the paint. It's obvious that teams would want the guy who can do more.

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