csamii:


Those enlightened and educated people have no flaws in their own customs and traditions abi?

Like woman shouldn't be outside during their oro festival. Enlightened indeed

They all do but have admitted to be open to changes just like the oro thing.They are open to new things so they are enlightened
Unlike some people who don't ever want to be open to new things but keep talking about nonsense outdated tradition and culture.

Next stage should be an implementation and compliance process but I dont think Fed Govt need to go that far, the judgement is good enough. It is now up to leaders in Iboland to implement a conpliance for self-governing. The goal is to liberate women and daughters left behind by their bread winner. No need to rebel or feel hurt by the ruling. Ibo elders should step forward and do the right thing for their daughters.

AmazonTopaz:

They all do but have admitted to be open to changes just like the oro thing.They are open to new things so they are enlightened
Unlike some people who don't ever want to be open to new things but keep talking about nonsense outdated tradition and culture.

So they've change the oro thing!? When did this happen?

AmazonTopaz:

It is not an igbo mentality speak for yourself I am igbo and I know women who have always shown interest.It is not in your place to decide a woman's interest.
As for the average family I get your point but that does not change the fact that females have a right to inheritance and at the same time does not stop them from working to make their own

you are a low budget feminist and you think this is about being educated? are you more educated than the oldest organization in the world that have refused to have women as priests? hope you have also countered it? continue with your feminism

golddare:


Maginalising women for over a century in the name of culture, any culture that doesn't have human face all over Nigeria must be abolished. Another one is that of Edo that gives everything to the first son, imagine that.

This is not true, if the first son performs the burial rites , then he can inherit hereditary titles and the house where the father lived and died. If the man has no sons, then the eldest daughter inherits the house but not the title. The title goes to the next of kin of the man. Any other property would be shared amongst the children both male and female. Any child born out of wedlock who is not known in the household i.e whose mother did not cook for the man in the house is disinherited, but if the son is brought into the house and the man affirms that he is his son, then he can get inheritance. You can also not disown a known son without performing some rites.

When will Supreme court rule on the high bride price in Igbo land?

Someone should sue the Ibo traditional leaders on this.

csamii:


I'm down for the change only if the change is made by igbo elders. I'm also an advocate of gender equality but the truth is that, women will still remain the weaker sex until the end of time

Your igbo elders are not the law or judges so whatever they say holds no water where the law holds sway so sit down listen and respect the supreme court not your elders who are under the law.
There is nothing weak about women go into labour and open your mouth and still come and say women are weak after that since it is so easy to say yes we look so physically but that does not mean that we are weak.
That talk is a old talk aimed at limiting women to the background it won't work anymore.
You are not an advocate of anything you saying women are weak has shown that you are not does the supposed weakness stop them from inheriting properties?you are not an advocate you are just a chauvinistic sexist.

A culture/custom/tradition that denigrates the right of the people (females in this case), is that one not stupidity?

Some traditions are no more than an echo over time of past silliness and bigotry. Man/woman must never exist for the sake of the past.

The caption in dis thread is misleading, the only inheritance that women are not entitled to in igbo land is something owned in common by the community ( umunna) wic is passed from male generation to generation eg Land, the essence of legal will stipulates dat every children can partake in ur immediate fathers properties of whatsoever ~I arrest my case

csamii:


So they've change the oro thing!? When did this happen?

Some no longer regard it while others do?
I am not yoruba so I don't know much about that but I do know that such people are open to changes if oneday the supreme court rules against it or whether they have home made lawa looking at such practice already

SpecialAdviser:
Am an Igbo, I support that every female should have right to their father's property.

My daughters will have right to my property.

Anybody against it is just plain s.tupid.

I don't mean to sound biased but what part of Igboland are you from?

Dickeyrider:
Igbos are not tolerant yet they want biafra. I have never seen a tribe more confused

How many d*ck did you ride last season?

It's only a blind Igbo man will see this as good, this is another way to bring the Igbo nation to it knees. No any Igboist who dose not have rights to his family inheritance as long you didn't change your family name with other family.

If i may ask can her family have rights in her husband inheritance

csamii:


Those enlightened and educated people have no flaws in their own customs and traditions abi?

Like woman shouldn't be outside during their oro festival. Enlightened indeed

Women should not be outside during Oro is a proactive step to shield women from a malevolent energy. It is out of concern to protect. It is not a prohibition at all. There have been women who out of curiosity violated the warning and they never regained themselves afterward. It is the same as instructing women not to handle certain chemical compounds because if inhaled or ingested could mess with their reproductive organs. It is not discriminatory but protective. Of course any woman can defy the warning, its her choice.

So dont mix the respected freewill of women to make choice elsewhere with your draconian denial of choice and freewill to women in Iboland.

ZZ22:
you are a low budget feminist and you think this is about being educated? are you more educated than the oldest organization in the world that have refused to have women as priests? hope you have also countered it? continue with your feminism

Yes I am more educated and I am a high budget feminist
That oldest organisation's influence around the world is dwindling already due to their refusal to accept changes no wonder Martin Luther led a protestant revolution against them and the likes of King henry the 8 of England broke away from them and founded the church of England.
Even the male applicant in the seminary abroad are reducing hence why they wanted to make older married men priest but it failed.With time their influence will be reduced to nothing but zero it is the price they pay for choosing to remain backwards and not flow with the times.Feminist abroad have been countering it hence why some are leaving the church in droves and it is now filled with old people not young ones.
Yes I will enjoy my feminism it is here to stay and with times things will get better for women.

AmazonTopaz:
Your igbo elders are not the law or judges so whatever they say holds no water where the law holds sway so sit down listen and respect the supreme court not your elders who are under the law.
There is nothing weak about women go into labour and open your mouth and still come and say women are weak after that since it is so easy to say yes we look so physically but that does not mean that we are weak.
That talk is a old talk aimed at limiting women to the background it won't work anymore.
You are not an advocate of anything you saying women are weak has shown that you are not does the supposed weakness stop them from inheriting properties?you are not an advocate you are just a chauvinistic sexist.

Whatever that suits your narrative, Lady. And try not to be a hypocrite because you come of as one. If you condemn this, I hope you also condemn the oro festival thing rather than make excuse for them.

Toscarel:


Aren't you dumb? Nigeria is ruled by a particular tribe that has no value for women and the girl child. Yet you open that gutter to spew trash

You're the dumb one. Y'all are quick to talk trash about Arrewa women while your own culture belittle your mother. Northern women (rich or poor) are well respected by their men compared to the backward dolts called igbo men.

csamii:
This thread is an access to insult igbo people but guess what, we don't care what you people think. Customs and traditions reign supreme.

Exactly this thread was just an excuse to insult igbo people.

Now every Yorubas that has been saying hateful things about igbos now cares for igbo women more than igbo men....lol

Odidigboigbo:
This was put to discourage the females from running away from their matrimonial home because of her father's inheritance. This is the main reason while Yoruba's have broken homes

You're very correct, barely you see a Yoruba woman in her 50s,, that hasn't gotten married to five men, with different child for each man. in her lifetime.

pocohantas:


Those ones are a combination of all types of lethal poisons. I avoid them and they avoid me too...



An Igbo woman and a Yoruba man is most times a perfect combination. Yoruba men never grew to expect much, Igbo women are trained to give EVERY. The food you will cook for your Igbo bf and he will be dragging feet to eat, because he has been told it is his RIGHT. A Yoruba guy will swallow it all and ask when you will make your next village soup for him.

However, if you are a strong carrier of the oriaku syndrome, avoid Yoruba men. An Igbo man is still king when it comes to giving oriaku pills.

What's oriaku?

csamii:


Whatever that suits your narrative, Lady. And try not to be a hypocrite because you come of as one. If you condemn this, I hope you also condemn the oro festival thing rather than make excuse for them.

Yes I condemn it also.
I am no hypocrite I condemn anything that is offensive and oppressive to women.
One SW flaw cannot be compared to the numerous flaws and injustice melted out on women in the SE in the name of culture and tradition.But all are inhuman nonetheless and repugnant to natural justice,equity and good conscience

horsepower102:


Exactly this thread was just an excuse to insult igbo people.

Now every Yorubas that has been saying hateful things about igbos now cares for igbo women more than igbo men....lol

And the mumu igbo people supporting them don't see their antics

csamii:


It's igbos like you that gave outsiders the audacity to insult and make fun of us. Continue

U hv time 4 d fool. how re we even sure dat he z Igbo. yorubas will use every opportunity to show how much they hate us but d good news 'we don't care abt ur opinion'.and for those saying"I prefer a Yoruba guy 2 Igbo guy",d truth remains dat no sane Igbo girl will like 2 marry a Yoruba guy. Yoruba will marry many women without making provision 4 their upkeep and warefare. they re never satisfied wit one woman and they can change their religion at any time. Igbo guys maintain and mk their family happy. wit or without inheritance we re happy and we strive 2 b independent. we work 2 mk our own money not 2 depend on inheritance. and no matter what d yorubas think or say, we will always b better and happier than them.

Thastie:

You're the dumb one. Y'all are quick to talk trash about Arrewa women while your own culture belittle your mother. Northern women (rich or poor) are well respected by their men compared to the backward dolts called igbo men.

They are well respected but not valued enough to be sent to school. Academically mention one of your arewa women making waves and I would give you 10 igbo women for each.
The arewa women are simply married off or bought at tender ages never given the chance to achieve their dream rather they are seen as za oda room tools. Truth hurts

I hope women will be allowed to marry 4 husbands and service all of them at will..

AmazonTopaz:

Yes I condemn it also.
I am no hypocrite I condemn anything that is offensive and oppressive to women.
One SW flaw cannot be compared to the numerous flaws and injustice melted out on women in the SE in the name of culture and tradition.But all are inhuman nonetheless and repugnant to natural justice,equity and good conscience

One SW flaw?! Really?

She said numerous flaws and injustice. Please will you be kind enough to list these flaws and injustice?

Just imagine an 'Igwe' reasoning like this in the year 2020...and it points to one fact alone, that Igbo people are greedy by default

This 'All or Nothing' mentality is the same reason why they're the kings of counterfeiting, and are always trying to shaft you whenever you do business with them.

Thastie:

What's oriaku?

Oriaku means Consumer of Wealth.

The test or evidence of an Igbo man’s wealth is his wife. Her appearance and overall carriage. So he will typically lavish on her, you need to see he is doing well.

ojuu4u:
Long overdue! I argued it with one guy in March, I told him if any female takes her family to the court that she will win, the guy blindly argued and rejected my opinion vehemently, saying nobody can try it in East. That, its their culture. I told him. Can ur culture and custom supersede Nigeria constitution?

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What about Sharia law in the north that condemned someone to death of whom Nigeria constitution didn't condem .

pocohantas:


Oriaku means Consumer of Wealth.

The test or evidence of an Igbo man’s wealth, is his wife. Her appearance and overall carriage. So he will typically lavish on her, you need to see he is doing well.

Oh ok. That's good tho

ZZ22:
Its on the father to will his properties to his children. A wealthy father that has enough would will to both sons and daughters but that of the sons would be of more economic value to that of the daughters. An average man will first consider his sons before the daughters that would get married to a man that has benefited from his father's property. This is how the cycle goes and whatever the supreme court does cannot override the decision of the father in willing his properties as he learnt from his father.

Exactly, you spoke my mind,,this is how its done,atleast if the father is educated or reasonable.
Share but give more attention to the men.
If the woman don marry her loyalty is now at the mercy of the husband.
Igbo's have reason of doing many things.